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Caught 2 students cheating together on the final exam that I proctored


Is it ethical for a lecturer to mis-indicate exam study material?What is the difference between a teaching assistant and an instructor?Student taking a make-up exam sees exam she would've taken: Unethical?Is my PhD programme a scam? Does my department only want to get PhD students as TAs for their recitation section?Other students report that a student faked illness and asked classmates about the final exam before taking a makeup. Is it academic dishonesty?When is it acceptable to report classmates who cheat on an exam?Advice for interacting with students reported for cheating on their midtermsProfessor does not care about cheating, what should TA do?I believe fellow TAs are giving students answers and inflating their tutorial average, what should I do?I got caught writing my student ID number after the end of the exam. Will I get in trouble?













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I proctored a calculus final exam with another teaching assistant and the professor. I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam. I remember the names of both students -- one of them is in my recitation section that I help teach.



Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.



I am torn about what to do. I've already submitted my share of graded exams to the professor but have not yet reported my suspicions that cheating occurred between these two students.



Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?



What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?



I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.









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    I think people are getting confused by the word "friend" in your title. Who is a friend of whom? Is one of the students a friend of yours? Are the two cheating students friends of each other? Or what?

    – Nate Eldredge
    18 hours ago






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    There's no ethical quandary here; you are ethically and professionally obligated to report what you saw.

    – daisy
    10 hours ago






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    I think you severely underestimate how likely it is to answer 10 multiple choice questions in the exact way without any cheating going on. You seem to assume that, for each question, the probability of picking a given answer is equal and independent. But this is patently not the case. — In sum, having 10 identical answers is very weak evidence of cheating.

    – Konrad Rudolph
    9 hours ago







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    To follow on Konrad's comment, you said "I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam" - it's those activities which may be worth reporting, having the same answers as someone else in and of itself seems completely benign. Especially if these two students are friends and may have studied together (and hence learned the same incorrect answers to some of the questions).

    – dwizum
    9 hours ago







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    What do you think your job as proctor is, other than to monitor the students for cheating? Other than that, you're just a baby sitter.

    – Barmar
    7 hours ago















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I proctored a calculus final exam with another teaching assistant and the professor. I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam. I remember the names of both students -- one of them is in my recitation section that I help teach.



Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.



I am torn about what to do. I've already submitted my share of graded exams to the professor but have not yet reported my suspicions that cheating occurred between these two students.



Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?



What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?



I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.









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    I think people are getting confused by the word "friend" in your title. Who is a friend of whom? Is one of the students a friend of yours? Are the two cheating students friends of each other? Or what?

    – Nate Eldredge
    18 hours ago






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    There's no ethical quandary here; you are ethically and professionally obligated to report what you saw.

    – daisy
    10 hours ago






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    I think you severely underestimate how likely it is to answer 10 multiple choice questions in the exact way without any cheating going on. You seem to assume that, for each question, the probability of picking a given answer is equal and independent. But this is patently not the case. — In sum, having 10 identical answers is very weak evidence of cheating.

    – Konrad Rudolph
    9 hours ago







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    To follow on Konrad's comment, you said "I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam" - it's those activities which may be worth reporting, having the same answers as someone else in and of itself seems completely benign. Especially if these two students are friends and may have studied together (and hence learned the same incorrect answers to some of the questions).

    – dwizum
    9 hours ago







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    What do you think your job as proctor is, other than to monitor the students for cheating? Other than that, you're just a baby sitter.

    – Barmar
    7 hours ago













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I proctored a calculus final exam with another teaching assistant and the professor. I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam. I remember the names of both students -- one of them is in my recitation section that I help teach.



Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.



I am torn about what to do. I've already submitted my share of graded exams to the professor but have not yet reported my suspicions that cheating occurred between these two students.



Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?



What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?



I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.









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I proctored a calculus final exam with another teaching assistant and the professor. I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam. I remember the names of both students -- one of them is in my recitation section that I help teach.



Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.



I am torn about what to do. I've already submitted my share of graded exams to the professor but have not yet reported my suspicions that cheating occurred between these two students.



Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?



What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?



I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.







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    I think people are getting confused by the word "friend" in your title. Who is a friend of whom? Is one of the students a friend of yours? Are the two cheating students friends of each other? Or what?

    – Nate Eldredge
    18 hours ago






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    There's no ethical quandary here; you are ethically and professionally obligated to report what you saw.

    – daisy
    10 hours ago






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    I think you severely underestimate how likely it is to answer 10 multiple choice questions in the exact way without any cheating going on. You seem to assume that, for each question, the probability of picking a given answer is equal and independent. But this is patently not the case. — In sum, having 10 identical answers is very weak evidence of cheating.

    – Konrad Rudolph
    9 hours ago







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    To follow on Konrad's comment, you said "I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam" - it's those activities which may be worth reporting, having the same answers as someone else in and of itself seems completely benign. Especially if these two students are friends and may have studied together (and hence learned the same incorrect answers to some of the questions).

    – dwizum
    9 hours ago







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    What do you think your job as proctor is, other than to monitor the students for cheating? Other than that, you're just a baby sitter.

    – Barmar
    7 hours ago












  • 30





    I think people are getting confused by the word "friend" in your title. Who is a friend of whom? Is one of the students a friend of yours? Are the two cheating students friends of each other? Or what?

    – Nate Eldredge
    18 hours ago






  • 20





    There's no ethical quandary here; you are ethically and professionally obligated to report what you saw.

    – daisy
    10 hours ago






  • 11





    I think you severely underestimate how likely it is to answer 10 multiple choice questions in the exact way without any cheating going on. You seem to assume that, for each question, the probability of picking a given answer is equal and independent. But this is patently not the case. — In sum, having 10 identical answers is very weak evidence of cheating.

    – Konrad Rudolph
    9 hours ago







  • 7





    To follow on Konrad's comment, you said "I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam" - it's those activities which may be worth reporting, having the same answers as someone else in and of itself seems completely benign. Especially if these two students are friends and may have studied together (and hence learned the same incorrect answers to some of the questions).

    – dwizum
    9 hours ago







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    What do you think your job as proctor is, other than to monitor the students for cheating? Other than that, you're just a baby sitter.

    – Barmar
    7 hours ago







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I think people are getting confused by the word "friend" in your title. Who is a friend of whom? Is one of the students a friend of yours? Are the two cheating students friends of each other? Or what?

– Nate Eldredge
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I think people are getting confused by the word "friend" in your title. Who is a friend of whom? Is one of the students a friend of yours? Are the two cheating students friends of each other? Or what?

– Nate Eldredge
18 hours ago




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There's no ethical quandary here; you are ethically and professionally obligated to report what you saw.

– daisy
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There's no ethical quandary here; you are ethically and professionally obligated to report what you saw.

– daisy
10 hours ago




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I think you severely underestimate how likely it is to answer 10 multiple choice questions in the exact way without any cheating going on. You seem to assume that, for each question, the probability of picking a given answer is equal and independent. But this is patently not the case. — In sum, having 10 identical answers is very weak evidence of cheating.

– Konrad Rudolph
9 hours ago






I think you severely underestimate how likely it is to answer 10 multiple choice questions in the exact way without any cheating going on. You seem to assume that, for each question, the probability of picking a given answer is equal and independent. But this is patently not the case. — In sum, having 10 identical answers is very weak evidence of cheating.

– Konrad Rudolph
9 hours ago





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To follow on Konrad's comment, you said "I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam" - it's those activities which may be worth reporting, having the same answers as someone else in and of itself seems completely benign. Especially if these two students are friends and may have studied together (and hence learned the same incorrect answers to some of the questions).

– dwizum
9 hours ago






To follow on Konrad's comment, you said "I saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam" - it's those activities which may be worth reporting, having the same answers as someone else in and of itself seems completely benign. Especially if these two students are friends and may have studied together (and hence learned the same incorrect answers to some of the questions).

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What do you think your job as proctor is, other than to monitor the students for cheating? Other than that, you're just a baby sitter.

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What do you think your job as proctor is, other than to monitor the students for cheating? Other than that, you're just a baby sitter.

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Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?




No. A major part of your job as proctor is to report suspected instances of cheating.




What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




If it is found out that you intentionally concealed evidence of cheating, I would expect that you will not be allowed to work as a teaching assistant at this university anymore. This might jeopardize your ability to continue as a student.




I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




Nobody wants their students to fail, but part of your job is to help ensure that students get the grade that their work, and their behavior, earns them, even if that isn't the outcome you want.






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    Further to "Nobody wants their students to fail," - ultimately, we should want our students to learn and then pass because they learned - versus simply being concerned about whether they pass or fail!

    – dwizum
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    I interpret that as “Nobody wants their students to fail to learn the course material”, or equivalently, “Nobody wants their students to earn a failing grade.”

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  • @JeffE: And even when a student has failed to learn the course material, most instructors don't take any pleasure in assigning the corresponding failing grade, even if they realize that it's the appropriate thing to do.

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  • And this kind of situation is why you should be cautious about being friends with someone in one of your classes

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I am torn about what to do. Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




I can understand your anxiety in this situation. However, you agreed to proctor the exam, and that job entails reporting evidence of cheating that you saw. Reporting students for possible academic misconduct when there are grounds to do so can be an awkward situation, but it is a necessary part of enforcing proper academic conduct. Students should not be relieved of the responsibility not to cheat in an examination simply because the proctor has decided that she does not want the student to fail. Your role as a teacher of this student should not undermine your role as a proctor for this exam.



In processes like this, it is not your "suspicions" that you are reporting. You are obliged to report the factual evidence that you saw. You say that you "saw what appeared to be cheating activities" between the students, and you also see evidence of collusion in the answers on the exam. As a proctor for the exam, it is my view that you are obliged to report this information to whoever is the relevant authority for reporting (e.g., course lecturer, Head of School). That person will then have to make a decision of whether that evidence you have reported is sufficient for an investigation into academic misconduct.



As to the consequences of inaction, if you decide to keep this to yourself, it is unlikely that anyone else will know what you have done. (Indeed, the only evidence you saw this is your present post on this forum.) But you will know. Situations like these give us a test of integrity, and if you decide not report this information, simply because of your role teaching this student, you are doing a disservice to the other students in the university. This kind of situation is well described by the aphorism of Adam Smith: mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.




Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers.




In itself, that is not strong evidence of collusion. Giving the same answer on multiple choice questions where that is the right answer is not evidence of collusion at all. Giving the same wrong answers may constitute evidence of collusion to the extent that these choices of answers are unusual, but on its own that would be weak evidence of collusion. In any case, it is not your job to assess the strength of the evidence --- your job here is to report the things you saw that have caused you to believe that academic misconduct may have occurred.






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    10 questions -- have identical answers - Just noting, this could be explained by them studying together and for some reason getting or remembering wrong info.

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    Often multiple choice questions have answers that correspond to common mistakes: eg 1+1×2, has a correct answer of 3, but if you perform the addition first, you will get a result of 4. It is not necessarily evidence of collusion if both students made the same mistake.

    – Martin Bonner
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  • If they got lots of questions wrong, and all the same way, that would be suspicious. However, with only 10 total questions, it's hard to draw any conclusions.

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  • However, the identical answers supports the apparent cheating that he saw.

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  • "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." - This is an empty saying, which is, in general, false. As a student, I've never felt that someone else cheating on an exam is cruel towards me. Mostly, cheating is perceived as a pathetic action, not even worth the time and effort of professors and TA's to investigate. Saying the OP should report what (he thinks) happened is one thing, but calling it "cruelty to the innocent" is way too much exaggeration.

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Largely echoing the other answers, but I don't see any that have all the essential elements.




I proctored a calculus final exam...and saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam.




You should have reported this immediately to the other proctors. At this point, you can still report it, but it is almost certainly too late.




Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.




This proves absolutely nothing.




Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




Failing to report evidence of cheating is a clear dereliction of duty. Doing so for your friend's personal gain is a good reason to get fired. In practice, however, it would be very difficult to prove that you knew about this and didn't report it.




I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




Why not? Students are not your friends, and it is inappropriate to think of them as such. If this was a pre-existing friend, you have a conflict of interest and should have disclosed this at the beginning of the term.






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    The identical answers don't prove anything on their own, but it supports the suspicious activity that he saw.

    – Barmar
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    In an free-response question, or with 100s of MCs, sure, it's unlikely they just happen to be identical. But here there are only 10 MC questions! And students are not randomly guessing, they are using the same (mis)conceptions to make choices. Given this, the odds that two non-cheating students get identical results are so high that this purported evidence should not be considered at all.

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    7 hours ago







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    Look at it the other way. You suspect that two students cheated, but then check their answers and they're very different. That would refute the suspicion (or they're really bad cheaters). But if all the answers are the same, it supports it. Note that supporting is not the same thing as confirming, it's just an additional bit of evidence.

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  • I understand your point, but this would be likely be inadmissible in a disciplinary procedure. I think this is where the "more prejudicial than probative" phrase comes in. Other answers already discuss p-values, etc., I won't wade into that again here.

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  • @cag51 No, it would not be inadmissible. At both state universities where I've taught, I can state from personal experience with such cases that it would definitely be considered. Whether it would be considered sufficient to support a finding of responsibility is a different question. (If all you had was 10 matching MC questions, I suspect not. But in this case, the OP also observed suspected behavior and given the totality, the combination of observations and matching answers, I suspect they would be found responsible.)

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First, it is totally unprofessional to think of students as friends because you teach them in some sessions or if this influences your decision about whether to report them.



Next, you ask what could happen if you don't report it. Most likely nothing can happen to you if nobody can prove that you did know about it.
However! Not reporting is the unethical and wrong thing to do! You should definitely tell the professor (if they are not totally unreasonable) about your suspicion - as a TA, you work for them, so you have to tell them. It's likely that they know what to do and whether some action has to be taken.






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    If your institution has a policy/honor code that requires you to report suspected cheating, you have your answer: You must report it. This is not ambiguous.



    If your institution does not have such a policy, it's a matter of personal ethics regarding whether you report or not. The ethical thing to do is to report the suspected misconduct, no matter how unpleasant it may be to do so. Again, this is not ambiguous.



    Either way, all you're doing is reporting suspected cheating. You are not judge and jury. Once you make the report, it is someone else's problem (an honor council, an academic conduct officer, your professor, your department chair, someone else) to examine the evidence, meet with the students, decide whether to find the students responsible and, if so, what the consequences should be.






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      Honor code or no, what is the point of having a proctor that doesn't report cheating? This is a fundamental part of the job and not a "matter for personal ethics." (Though your last paragraph is dead on).

      – cag51
      23 hours ago






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      @cag51 I intended my remarks to be clear, that only an unethical or spineless person would accept a job as a TA but fail to carry out the essential duties.

      – Nicole Hamilton
      22 hours ago






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      @cag51 Absent an external standard, personal ethics are pretty much all you have to go on. Whether or not it's acceptable IS a question of ethics.

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      8 hours ago






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      @eykanal This was not an attack (the OP has not indicated they intend to ignore the misconduct and my answer only addressed the hypothetical) and you have altered my answer so as to omit that even if there is no honor code, the ethical thing to do is report the suspected misconduct, even though it may be unpleasant.

      – Nicole Hamilton
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      Agree, I don't see where the answer attacks anyone, and the comment chain seems very civil, if a bit focused on semantics. Anyway: I agree with Nicole's "better analogy" -- it still seems to me that the conduct in that analogy is unethical regardless of the actor's "personal" ethics (as opposed to the non-personal ethics that determine what is acceptable or not in our society or legal code) or the presence/absence of a written university honor code. But I guess we're going in circles, will desist. Peace!

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    You've lost your chance of fairly reporting those students...



    If you brought these two students up on disciplinary charges, they should be acquitted based on the evidence you provided. Why?



    1. You did not interrupt the supposed cheating activity you claim you witnessed.

    2. You did not report the two supposed cheaters on the spot.

    3. You did nothing for several (?) days later.

    4. You only decided to report two students when you saw they had the same answers for some multiple-choice questions.

    Not only is your behavior suspect, but you are also suffering from confirmation bias w.r.t. the identical multiple-choice questions.



    Now, in a perfect world, it wouldn't even matter if you reported them. But in our world, it's possible a disciplinary body will just rubber-stamp the charge with a conviction. For this reason, you should at this point in time not report these students.



    ... but do something else to address their situation



    I suggest you, or you and the professor, call these two students to a meeting in your or his office (with or without holding back their exam grade). Tell them you believe they have cheated, and what you saw. If they confess, try to agree together on a fair course of action.



    But regardless of whether they confess, try to determine whether one or both of them have been facing difficulties with the course material, or with the timing of exams etc. Try to use your experience and/or time and/or influence with others in faculty or the administrative staff to help them better cope with said difficulty. I realize this is extremely vague advice - but obviously I can't speculate with any specificity. Just remember that your main duty as a teacher is to help your students gain knowledge and understanding of the subject matter - more so than maintaining discipline or ensuring "correct" relative grading.






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    • +1, yes. This is how educators behave. Education isn't supposed to involve "gotcha moments".

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    • There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. Consider, e.g., the case of Senator John Walsh (D-MT) whose master's degree was revoked by the Army War College when it was discovered he'd plagiarized a paper 10 years earlier. At the two state universities I've taught at, reports of suspected plagiarism can be submitted months later and may still result in findings of responsibility, same as if they'd been submitted the same day.

      – Nicole Hamilton
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    • @NicoleHamilton: There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. – This is not about the crime expiring; this is about whether the evidence is compelling. And with respect to this, the asker missed the opportunity to have additional witnesses, catching the students in the act, avoiding confirmation bias, etc.

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    • @NicoleHamilton: 1. This is not about "statute of limitation", it's about plausibility of the charge. 2. This will not be adjudicated in a US court but by some intra-university disciplinary body. 3. Cheating in an exam is not plagiarism.

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    • @einpoklum Your answer, in all 4 parts, argued that the OP should not report the suspected misconduct because too much time (possibly a few days) had elapsed. This is incorrect. There is no statue of limitation on reports of suspected misconduct. And copying answers from someone else on an exam is a form of plagiarism.

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    Identical answers on ten multiple choice questions is, in itself, ZERO evidence of cheating. In the absence of some actual evidence of copying, just ignore it. If it were a hundred questions then maybe there is some evidence. If they were written answers, then yes.



    But what you may have evidence of is that two people have the same misconceptions. Depending on the teaching that isn't especially rare. After all, they heard the same lectures and use the same materials. They may even have studied together.



    Don't make accusations unless you witnessed something improper going on, and then treat the students the same way you would any others. But it is the witness accounts that are the basis of action.




    Let me add a bit. If some of the answers by the two students were actually correct then that is no evidence at all of cheating. So, there is a smaller number of questions that might be questionable. Perhaps the OP will clarify whether the incorrect answers were identical on the two papers, or just both wrong. Also, to do a probability analysis it would be required to know how many questions were wrong, but identical, and how many choices on each question.



    I still maintain that the papers alone are not evidence. The other considerations apply, of course, but it seems that no action was taken and maybe none recorded at the time.






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      The OP did see other evidence of cheating.

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      @Buzz, then that other evidence is what is actionable.

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    • I think most honor councils and academic conduct officers would consider identical answers as evidence. I know ours does. It might not be considered conclusive proof, but it would definitely be considered as evidence and the students would be questioned on it.

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    • @Buffy: I mostly agree, but have a different take. Would appreciate your comment on my answer.

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    • @NicoleHamilton - it also depends on the testing instrument. On a 10-question MC, the p-value is way too low to conclude that identical answers are cheating. If there had been 300 MC questions, or an open-ended testing instrument (e.g., essay), identical answers would be much more convincing.

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    Your duty was to proctor the exam honestly and with due diligence.



    You SHOULD have reported the suspected copying immediately.



    You SHOULD have reported that the marking confirms your suspicion.



    But your question is about what you CAN do. As a mathemetician, I am sure you know the difference between CAN and SHOULD.



    You COULD continue to do nothing. There would probably be no practical consequences.






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      The only reason this question is being asked, and the only reason there is an issue at all, is the OP's desire to protect a student (friend?) in her recitation section from consequences. This desire is why no action was taken during the exam, why only minor action has been taken after the exam (collecting forensic evidence and posting here). There is a big difference between wanting a student to succeed because of their merit, and wanting them to succeed despite their lack of merit.



      This latter desire is entirely misplaced, unprofessional, and indeed dangerous. Now OP is an accessory to potential academic misconduct. What if, instead of copying answers, the students had an answer key that they were copying from, during the exam? What if they had broken into the professor's office to get the answer key? What if they held the professor at gunpoint during the break-in? Ethically, there is no difference here -- the OP should be equally unwilling to protect the students in all these situations.



      OP's job is to educate the students, not only in the subject matter, but in the academic code of conduct expected in a college setting. Failing to educate them is a breach of responsibility, and encourages the students to continue (or escalate) their misconduct in the future. It is unfair to other students who behaved ethically. And, most importantly, it is a violation of OP's academic conduct.






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        For one, in just about every serious educational institution I've heard of, beyond high school, from community college on up, cheating on an exam or test and getting caught and reported, can result in expulsion. You don't always just fail the course. Getting accepted to another academic university or graduate school (as opposed to corporate university-like for-profit BS schools), with that on your record, probably isn't going happen. You're often done. College is not high school. It's typically one strike and you're out if you're formally redressed by the administration for egregiously cheating on exams and tests.



        A better solution, if they really are your friends, might be to call them out as soon as you notice suspicious activity, remind them that cheating is grounds for ending them, whether they are your friend or not, and draw the boundaries of your friendship, in the nicest way possible. Communication and diplomacy are important in social/professional interaction and friendships. That's one of the things you are supposed to learn growing up, and in school.



        Another solution, if they aren't your friends, is to simply make them aware you are watching them, and if they cheat, you'll know it and something will be done about it. Remember they haven't cheated yet, and no damage has been done, if the test just started, you're hawk-eyeing them, and making them aware of it. Loudly clearing your throat once, and making eye contact, would do the trick. I've seen this done and it's a very effective way to let people know that you take TA'ing seriously and not to **** with you. If they cheat anyway, the consequences are on them. Once they're on your bad side, if they don't cheat after that, keep them on your bad side for the semester, put them under a microscope and whatever their average is in the class, drop it by half a grade for their final grade. If they complain about it, let them know what you could have done. If you catch them again, THEN go to the board. By doing this you are teaching them a very important lesson. Isn't that what college is all about? Teaching and learning?



        Being passive aggressive with an issue as serious as this, pretending you don't see them, quietly running to the academic review board to snitch on people with cell phone video, then failing them in your class, and possibly getting them expelled, is sociopath behavior. I'm sure if the students realized how serious you take this, how obvious it is that they are cheating, and you are the one TA in the university that not only sees them cheating, but will get them canned, they won't be cheating in your classes.



        You can be tough and "ethical", but you also have to display some humanity by making the students aware of the parameters they're going to be subjected to, if that's the road you want to travel, and I'm not saying that's a bad way to run your classes; it's a good way. It's probably the best and right way. Just let them see you sharpening your axe and give them a chance to reconsider their behavior before you go cutting their heads off, because not everyone runs their classes that way.



        This is called managing expectations and is a very important workplace skill. People that can't do it have a very tough row to hoe at work. If you master it, you'll go far.






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        • A single incident of being found responsible for cheating on exam does not usually result in expulsion. Here at my university, for example, the penalty for misconduct is usually a zero on the assignment and a 1/3 letter grade deduction on the final course grade. (But a zero on a midterm or final + the 1/3 letter grade deduction does usually mean you fail the course.) Also, honor code violations do not appear on a transcript or other records available even to other instructors, so if you leave and apply elsewhere, it's unlikely they will know about the violation.

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        If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?



        From the perspective of the educational institution it is not ethical to ignore your suspicions, but you are not an educational institution.



        In terms of effects on you personally, reporting your suspicions can only potentially harm your friends. There is no situation where reporting can leave them better off than before. This can only either have no effect or harm your friendships.



        If you don't report then... nothing happens. The two students in question are not likely to report themselves for cheating and the other students in the class won't be able to prove that you saw them cheating if they noticed something and decided to report.



        The only situation where it makes sense for you to report them is if you value favor within the college more than them having a positive opinion of you.



        Other answers that worry about being "professional" or "ethical" completely miss the reality of your position. You are a TA for a college that you will likely be leaving soon. If you take personal investment in the integrity of their test results that is your business, but I can't imagine why you would. You harm the college far less by letting this slide than you would harm your friends by reporting it.






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          Following this line of reasoning, would it be okay to give your friends an advance copy of the exam as well if you know you won't be caught?

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        • Yes, but in that case there is a high enough chance of you getting caught that it doesn't make sense to take on that risk for them. The benefit to your friends would be mild, the risk to you would be great, and the amount that your friendship would improve based on that would probably be relatively little. Not to mention that improvements in friendship can be "bought" in far cheaper ways. Plus in that situation information is distributed differently. It gives those people leverage over you since they know you were involved. In the case of this question no-one else has that information.

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        • This answer seems to be from the perspective of pure self-interest, which I think is more or less the opposite of ethics. It is one way to look at the situation, but I don't think it's one that most academics would promote.

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        • Why is it more ethical to act in the interest of a college than in your own interest and in the interest of those you value?

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        Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?




        No. A major part of your job as proctor is to report suspected instances of cheating.




        What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        If it is found out that you intentionally concealed evidence of cheating, I would expect that you will not be allowed to work as a teaching assistant at this university anymore. This might jeopardize your ability to continue as a student.




        I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




        Nobody wants their students to fail, but part of your job is to help ensure that students get the grade that their work, and their behavior, earns them, even if that isn't the outcome you want.






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          Further to "Nobody wants their students to fail," - ultimately, we should want our students to learn and then pass because they learned - versus simply being concerned about whether they pass or fail!

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          I interpret that as “Nobody wants their students to fail to learn the course material”, or equivalently, “Nobody wants their students to earn a failing grade.”

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        • @JeffE: And even when a student has failed to learn the course material, most instructors don't take any pleasure in assigning the corresponding failing grade, even if they realize that it's the appropriate thing to do.

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        • And this kind of situation is why you should be cautious about being friends with someone in one of your classes

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        Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?




        No. A major part of your job as proctor is to report suspected instances of cheating.




        What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        If it is found out that you intentionally concealed evidence of cheating, I would expect that you will not be allowed to work as a teaching assistant at this university anymore. This might jeopardize your ability to continue as a student.




        I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




        Nobody wants their students to fail, but part of your job is to help ensure that students get the grade that their work, and their behavior, earns them, even if that isn't the outcome you want.






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          Further to "Nobody wants their students to fail," - ultimately, we should want our students to learn and then pass because they learned - versus simply being concerned about whether they pass or fail!

          – dwizum
          9 hours ago






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          I interpret that as “Nobody wants their students to fail to learn the course material”, or equivalently, “Nobody wants their students to earn a failing grade.”

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        • @JeffE: And even when a student has failed to learn the course material, most instructors don't take any pleasure in assigning the corresponding failing grade, even if they realize that it's the appropriate thing to do.

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        • And this kind of situation is why you should be cautious about being friends with someone in one of your classes

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        Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?




        No. A major part of your job as proctor is to report suspected instances of cheating.




        What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        If it is found out that you intentionally concealed evidence of cheating, I would expect that you will not be allowed to work as a teaching assistant at this university anymore. This might jeopardize your ability to continue as a student.




        I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




        Nobody wants their students to fail, but part of your job is to help ensure that students get the grade that their work, and their behavior, earns them, even if that isn't the outcome you want.






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        Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up?




        No. A major part of your job as proctor is to report suspected instances of cheating.




        What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        If it is found out that you intentionally concealed evidence of cheating, I would expect that you will not be allowed to work as a teaching assistant at this university anymore. This might jeopardize your ability to continue as a student.




        I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




        Nobody wants their students to fail, but part of your job is to help ensure that students get the grade that their work, and their behavior, earns them, even if that isn't the outcome you want.







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          Further to "Nobody wants their students to fail," - ultimately, we should want our students to learn and then pass because they learned - versus simply being concerned about whether they pass or fail!

          – dwizum
          9 hours ago






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          I interpret that as “Nobody wants their students to fail to learn the course material”, or equivalently, “Nobody wants their students to earn a failing grade.”

          – JeffE
          4 hours ago












        • @JeffE: And even when a student has failed to learn the course material, most instructors don't take any pleasure in assigning the corresponding failing grade, even if they realize that it's the appropriate thing to do.

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        • And this kind of situation is why you should be cautious about being friends with someone in one of your classes

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          9 hours ago






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          I interpret that as “Nobody wants their students to fail to learn the course material”, or equivalently, “Nobody wants their students to earn a failing grade.”

          – JeffE
          4 hours ago












        • @JeffE: And even when a student has failed to learn the course material, most instructors don't take any pleasure in assigning the corresponding failing grade, even if they realize that it's the appropriate thing to do.

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        • And this kind of situation is why you should be cautious about being friends with someone in one of your classes

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        Further to "Nobody wants their students to fail," - ultimately, we should want our students to learn and then pass because they learned - versus simply being concerned about whether they pass or fail!

        – dwizum
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        Further to "Nobody wants their students to fail," - ultimately, we should want our students to learn and then pass because they learned - versus simply being concerned about whether they pass or fail!

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        I interpret that as “Nobody wants their students to fail to learn the course material”, or equivalently, “Nobody wants their students to earn a failing grade.”

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        I interpret that as “Nobody wants their students to fail to learn the course material”, or equivalently, “Nobody wants their students to earn a failing grade.”

        – JeffE
        4 hours ago














        @JeffE: And even when a student has failed to learn the course material, most instructors don't take any pleasure in assigning the corresponding failing grade, even if they realize that it's the appropriate thing to do.

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        1 hour ago





        @JeffE: And even when a student has failed to learn the course material, most instructors don't take any pleasure in assigning the corresponding failing grade, even if they realize that it's the appropriate thing to do.

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        And this kind of situation is why you should be cautious about being friends with someone in one of your classes

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        And this kind of situation is why you should be cautious about being friends with someone in one of your classes

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        I am torn about what to do. Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        I can understand your anxiety in this situation. However, you agreed to proctor the exam, and that job entails reporting evidence of cheating that you saw. Reporting students for possible academic misconduct when there are grounds to do so can be an awkward situation, but it is a necessary part of enforcing proper academic conduct. Students should not be relieved of the responsibility not to cheat in an examination simply because the proctor has decided that she does not want the student to fail. Your role as a teacher of this student should not undermine your role as a proctor for this exam.



        In processes like this, it is not your "suspicions" that you are reporting. You are obliged to report the factual evidence that you saw. You say that you "saw what appeared to be cheating activities" between the students, and you also see evidence of collusion in the answers on the exam. As a proctor for the exam, it is my view that you are obliged to report this information to whoever is the relevant authority for reporting (e.g., course lecturer, Head of School). That person will then have to make a decision of whether that evidence you have reported is sufficient for an investigation into academic misconduct.



        As to the consequences of inaction, if you decide to keep this to yourself, it is unlikely that anyone else will know what you have done. (Indeed, the only evidence you saw this is your present post on this forum.) But you will know. Situations like these give us a test of integrity, and if you decide not report this information, simply because of your role teaching this student, you are doing a disservice to the other students in the university. This kind of situation is well described by the aphorism of Adam Smith: mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.




        Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers.




        In itself, that is not strong evidence of collusion. Giving the same answer on multiple choice questions where that is the right answer is not evidence of collusion at all. Giving the same wrong answers may constitute evidence of collusion to the extent that these choices of answers are unusual, but on its own that would be weak evidence of collusion. In any case, it is not your job to assess the strength of the evidence --- your job here is to report the things you saw that have caused you to believe that academic misconduct may have occurred.






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          10 questions -- have identical answers - Just noting, this could be explained by them studying together and for some reason getting or remembering wrong info.

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          Often multiple choice questions have answers that correspond to common mistakes: eg 1+1×2, has a correct answer of 3, but if you perform the addition first, you will get a result of 4. It is not necessarily evidence of collusion if both students made the same mistake.

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        • If they got lots of questions wrong, and all the same way, that would be suspicious. However, with only 10 total questions, it's hard to draw any conclusions.

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          7 hours ago











        • However, the identical answers supports the apparent cheating that he saw.

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          7 hours ago











        • "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." - This is an empty saying, which is, in general, false. As a student, I've never felt that someone else cheating on an exam is cruel towards me. Mostly, cheating is perceived as a pathetic action, not even worth the time and effort of professors and TA's to investigate. Saying the OP should report what (he thinks) happened is one thing, but calling it "cruelty to the innocent" is way too much exaggeration.

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        I am torn about what to do. Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        I can understand your anxiety in this situation. However, you agreed to proctor the exam, and that job entails reporting evidence of cheating that you saw. Reporting students for possible academic misconduct when there are grounds to do so can be an awkward situation, but it is a necessary part of enforcing proper academic conduct. Students should not be relieved of the responsibility not to cheat in an examination simply because the proctor has decided that she does not want the student to fail. Your role as a teacher of this student should not undermine your role as a proctor for this exam.



        In processes like this, it is not your "suspicions" that you are reporting. You are obliged to report the factual evidence that you saw. You say that you "saw what appeared to be cheating activities" between the students, and you also see evidence of collusion in the answers on the exam. As a proctor for the exam, it is my view that you are obliged to report this information to whoever is the relevant authority for reporting (e.g., course lecturer, Head of School). That person will then have to make a decision of whether that evidence you have reported is sufficient for an investigation into academic misconduct.



        As to the consequences of inaction, if you decide to keep this to yourself, it is unlikely that anyone else will know what you have done. (Indeed, the only evidence you saw this is your present post on this forum.) But you will know. Situations like these give us a test of integrity, and if you decide not report this information, simply because of your role teaching this student, you are doing a disservice to the other students in the university. This kind of situation is well described by the aphorism of Adam Smith: mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.




        Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers.




        In itself, that is not strong evidence of collusion. Giving the same answer on multiple choice questions where that is the right answer is not evidence of collusion at all. Giving the same wrong answers may constitute evidence of collusion to the extent that these choices of answers are unusual, but on its own that would be weak evidence of collusion. In any case, it is not your job to assess the strength of the evidence --- your job here is to report the things you saw that have caused you to believe that academic misconduct may have occurred.






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          10 questions -- have identical answers - Just noting, this could be explained by them studying together and for some reason getting or remembering wrong info.

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          Often multiple choice questions have answers that correspond to common mistakes: eg 1+1×2, has a correct answer of 3, but if you perform the addition first, you will get a result of 4. It is not necessarily evidence of collusion if both students made the same mistake.

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        • If they got lots of questions wrong, and all the same way, that would be suspicious. However, with only 10 total questions, it's hard to draw any conclusions.

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          7 hours ago











        • However, the identical answers supports the apparent cheating that he saw.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago











        • "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." - This is an empty saying, which is, in general, false. As a student, I've never felt that someone else cheating on an exam is cruel towards me. Mostly, cheating is perceived as a pathetic action, not even worth the time and effort of professors and TA's to investigate. Saying the OP should report what (he thinks) happened is one thing, but calling it "cruelty to the innocent" is way too much exaggeration.

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        I am torn about what to do. Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        I can understand your anxiety in this situation. However, you agreed to proctor the exam, and that job entails reporting evidence of cheating that you saw. Reporting students for possible academic misconduct when there are grounds to do so can be an awkward situation, but it is a necessary part of enforcing proper academic conduct. Students should not be relieved of the responsibility not to cheat in an examination simply because the proctor has decided that she does not want the student to fail. Your role as a teacher of this student should not undermine your role as a proctor for this exam.



        In processes like this, it is not your "suspicions" that you are reporting. You are obliged to report the factual evidence that you saw. You say that you "saw what appeared to be cheating activities" between the students, and you also see evidence of collusion in the answers on the exam. As a proctor for the exam, it is my view that you are obliged to report this information to whoever is the relevant authority for reporting (e.g., course lecturer, Head of School). That person will then have to make a decision of whether that evidence you have reported is sufficient for an investigation into academic misconduct.



        As to the consequences of inaction, if you decide to keep this to yourself, it is unlikely that anyone else will know what you have done. (Indeed, the only evidence you saw this is your present post on this forum.) But you will know. Situations like these give us a test of integrity, and if you decide not report this information, simply because of your role teaching this student, you are doing a disservice to the other students in the university. This kind of situation is well described by the aphorism of Adam Smith: mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.




        Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers.




        In itself, that is not strong evidence of collusion. Giving the same answer on multiple choice questions where that is the right answer is not evidence of collusion at all. Giving the same wrong answers may constitute evidence of collusion to the extent that these choices of answers are unusual, but on its own that would be weak evidence of collusion. In any case, it is not your job to assess the strength of the evidence --- your job here is to report the things you saw that have caused you to believe that academic misconduct may have occurred.






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        I am torn about what to do. Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        I can understand your anxiety in this situation. However, you agreed to proctor the exam, and that job entails reporting evidence of cheating that you saw. Reporting students for possible academic misconduct when there are grounds to do so can be an awkward situation, but it is a necessary part of enforcing proper academic conduct. Students should not be relieved of the responsibility not to cheat in an examination simply because the proctor has decided that she does not want the student to fail. Your role as a teacher of this student should not undermine your role as a proctor for this exam.



        In processes like this, it is not your "suspicions" that you are reporting. You are obliged to report the factual evidence that you saw. You say that you "saw what appeared to be cheating activities" between the students, and you also see evidence of collusion in the answers on the exam. As a proctor for the exam, it is my view that you are obliged to report this information to whoever is the relevant authority for reporting (e.g., course lecturer, Head of School). That person will then have to make a decision of whether that evidence you have reported is sufficient for an investigation into academic misconduct.



        As to the consequences of inaction, if you decide to keep this to yourself, it is unlikely that anyone else will know what you have done. (Indeed, the only evidence you saw this is your present post on this forum.) But you will know. Situations like these give us a test of integrity, and if you decide not report this information, simply because of your role teaching this student, you are doing a disservice to the other students in the university. This kind of situation is well described by the aphorism of Adam Smith: mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.




        Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers.




        In itself, that is not strong evidence of collusion. Giving the same answer on multiple choice questions where that is the right answer is not evidence of collusion at all. Giving the same wrong answers may constitute evidence of collusion to the extent that these choices of answers are unusual, but on its own that would be weak evidence of collusion. In any case, it is not your job to assess the strength of the evidence --- your job here is to report the things you saw that have caused you to believe that academic misconduct may have occurred.







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          10 questions -- have identical answers - Just noting, this could be explained by them studying together and for some reason getting or remembering wrong info.

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          Often multiple choice questions have answers that correspond to common mistakes: eg 1+1×2, has a correct answer of 3, but if you perform the addition first, you will get a result of 4. It is not necessarily evidence of collusion if both students made the same mistake.

          – Martin Bonner
          14 hours ago











        • If they got lots of questions wrong, and all the same way, that would be suspicious. However, with only 10 total questions, it's hard to draw any conclusions.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago











        • However, the identical answers supports the apparent cheating that he saw.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago











        • "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." - This is an empty saying, which is, in general, false. As a student, I've never felt that someone else cheating on an exam is cruel towards me. Mostly, cheating is perceived as a pathetic action, not even worth the time and effort of professors and TA's to investigate. Saying the OP should report what (he thinks) happened is one thing, but calling it "cruelty to the innocent" is way too much exaggeration.

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          6 hours ago












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          10 questions -- have identical answers - Just noting, this could be explained by them studying together and for some reason getting or remembering wrong info.

          – domen
          16 hours ago






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          Often multiple choice questions have answers that correspond to common mistakes: eg 1+1×2, has a correct answer of 3, but if you perform the addition first, you will get a result of 4. It is not necessarily evidence of collusion if both students made the same mistake.

          – Martin Bonner
          14 hours ago











        • If they got lots of questions wrong, and all the same way, that would be suspicious. However, with only 10 total questions, it's hard to draw any conclusions.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago











        • However, the identical answers supports the apparent cheating that he saw.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago











        • "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." - This is an empty saying, which is, in general, false. As a student, I've never felt that someone else cheating on an exam is cruel towards me. Mostly, cheating is perceived as a pathetic action, not even worth the time and effort of professors and TA's to investigate. Saying the OP should report what (he thinks) happened is one thing, but calling it "cruelty to the innocent" is way too much exaggeration.

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        10 questions -- have identical answers - Just noting, this could be explained by them studying together and for some reason getting or remembering wrong info.

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        10 questions -- have identical answers - Just noting, this could be explained by them studying together and for some reason getting or remembering wrong info.

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        Often multiple choice questions have answers that correspond to common mistakes: eg 1+1×2, has a correct answer of 3, but if you perform the addition first, you will get a result of 4. It is not necessarily evidence of collusion if both students made the same mistake.

        – Martin Bonner
        14 hours ago





        Often multiple choice questions have answers that correspond to common mistakes: eg 1+1×2, has a correct answer of 3, but if you perform the addition first, you will get a result of 4. It is not necessarily evidence of collusion if both students made the same mistake.

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        If they got lots of questions wrong, and all the same way, that would be suspicious. However, with only 10 total questions, it's hard to draw any conclusions.

        – Barmar
        7 hours ago





        If they got lots of questions wrong, and all the same way, that would be suspicious. However, with only 10 total questions, it's hard to draw any conclusions.

        – Barmar
        7 hours ago













        However, the identical answers supports the apparent cheating that he saw.

        – Barmar
        7 hours ago





        However, the identical answers supports the apparent cheating that he saw.

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        7 hours ago













        "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." - This is an empty saying, which is, in general, false. As a student, I've never felt that someone else cheating on an exam is cruel towards me. Mostly, cheating is perceived as a pathetic action, not even worth the time and effort of professors and TA's to investigate. Saying the OP should report what (he thinks) happened is one thing, but calling it "cruelty to the innocent" is way too much exaggeration.

        – j3M
        6 hours ago





        "mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." - This is an empty saying, which is, in general, false. As a student, I've never felt that someone else cheating on an exam is cruel towards me. Mostly, cheating is perceived as a pathetic action, not even worth the time and effort of professors and TA's to investigate. Saying the OP should report what (he thinks) happened is one thing, but calling it "cruelty to the innocent" is way too much exaggeration.

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        Largely echoing the other answers, but I don't see any that have all the essential elements.




        I proctored a calculus final exam...and saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam.




        You should have reported this immediately to the other proctors. At this point, you can still report it, but it is almost certainly too late.




        Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.




        This proves absolutely nothing.




        Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        Failing to report evidence of cheating is a clear dereliction of duty. Doing so for your friend's personal gain is a good reason to get fired. In practice, however, it would be very difficult to prove that you knew about this and didn't report it.




        I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




        Why not? Students are not your friends, and it is inappropriate to think of them as such. If this was a pre-existing friend, you have a conflict of interest and should have disclosed this at the beginning of the term.






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          The identical answers don't prove anything on their own, but it supports the suspicious activity that he saw.

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          7 hours ago






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          In an free-response question, or with 100s of MCs, sure, it's unlikely they just happen to be identical. But here there are only 10 MC questions! And students are not randomly guessing, they are using the same (mis)conceptions to make choices. Given this, the odds that two non-cheating students get identical results are so high that this purported evidence should not be considered at all.

          – cag51
          7 hours ago







        • 2





          Look at it the other way. You suspect that two students cheated, but then check their answers and they're very different. That would refute the suspicion (or they're really bad cheaters). But if all the answers are the same, it supports it. Note that supporting is not the same thing as confirming, it's just an additional bit of evidence.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago












        • I understand your point, but this would be likely be inadmissible in a disciplinary procedure. I think this is where the "more prejudicial than probative" phrase comes in. Other answers already discuss p-values, etc., I won't wade into that again here.

          – cag51
          6 hours ago











        • @cag51 No, it would not be inadmissible. At both state universities where I've taught, I can state from personal experience with such cases that it would definitely be considered. Whether it would be considered sufficient to support a finding of responsibility is a different question. (If all you had was 10 matching MC questions, I suspect not. But in this case, the OP also observed suspected behavior and given the totality, the combination of observations and matching answers, I suspect they would be found responsible.)

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          4 hours ago















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        Largely echoing the other answers, but I don't see any that have all the essential elements.




        I proctored a calculus final exam...and saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam.




        You should have reported this immediately to the other proctors. At this point, you can still report it, but it is almost certainly too late.




        Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.




        This proves absolutely nothing.




        Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        Failing to report evidence of cheating is a clear dereliction of duty. Doing so for your friend's personal gain is a good reason to get fired. In practice, however, it would be very difficult to prove that you knew about this and didn't report it.




        I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




        Why not? Students are not your friends, and it is inappropriate to think of them as such. If this was a pre-existing friend, you have a conflict of interest and should have disclosed this at the beginning of the term.






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          The identical answers don't prove anything on their own, but it supports the suspicious activity that he saw.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago






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          In an free-response question, or with 100s of MCs, sure, it's unlikely they just happen to be identical. But here there are only 10 MC questions! And students are not randomly guessing, they are using the same (mis)conceptions to make choices. Given this, the odds that two non-cheating students get identical results are so high that this purported evidence should not be considered at all.

          – cag51
          7 hours ago







        • 2





          Look at it the other way. You suspect that two students cheated, but then check their answers and they're very different. That would refute the suspicion (or they're really bad cheaters). But if all the answers are the same, it supports it. Note that supporting is not the same thing as confirming, it's just an additional bit of evidence.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago












        • I understand your point, but this would be likely be inadmissible in a disciplinary procedure. I think this is where the "more prejudicial than probative" phrase comes in. Other answers already discuss p-values, etc., I won't wade into that again here.

          – cag51
          6 hours ago











        • @cag51 No, it would not be inadmissible. At both state universities where I've taught, I can state from personal experience with such cases that it would definitely be considered. Whether it would be considered sufficient to support a finding of responsibility is a different question. (If all you had was 10 matching MC questions, I suspect not. But in this case, the OP also observed suspected behavior and given the totality, the combination of observations and matching answers, I suspect they would be found responsible.)

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          4 hours ago













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        Largely echoing the other answers, but I don't see any that have all the essential elements.




        I proctored a calculus final exam...and saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam.




        You should have reported this immediately to the other proctors. At this point, you can still report it, but it is almost certainly too late.




        Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.




        This proves absolutely nothing.




        Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        Failing to report evidence of cheating is a clear dereliction of duty. Doing so for your friend's personal gain is a good reason to get fired. In practice, however, it would be very difficult to prove that you knew about this and didn't report it.




        I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




        Why not? Students are not your friends, and it is inappropriate to think of them as such. If this was a pre-existing friend, you have a conflict of interest and should have disclosed this at the beginning of the term.






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        Largely echoing the other answers, but I don't see any that have all the essential elements.




        I proctored a calculus final exam...and saw what appeared to be cheating activities between two students during the exam.




        You should have reported this immediately to the other proctors. At this point, you can still report it, but it is almost certainly too late.




        Upon looking at both of their exams for grading, I see that their multiple choice sections -- 10 questions -- have identical answers. They got exactly the same questions right / wrong.




        This proves absolutely nothing.




        Can I just ignore my suspicions and not follow up? What could be the consequences if I simply don't report it?




        Failing to report evidence of cheating is a clear dereliction of duty. Doing so for your friend's personal gain is a good reason to get fired. In practice, however, it would be very difficult to prove that you knew about this and didn't report it.




        I don't want my student from my recitation section to fail this class.




        Why not? Students are not your friends, and it is inappropriate to think of them as such. If this was a pre-existing friend, you have a conflict of interest and should have disclosed this at the beginning of the term.







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          The identical answers don't prove anything on their own, but it supports the suspicious activity that he saw.

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          7 hours ago






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          In an free-response question, or with 100s of MCs, sure, it's unlikely they just happen to be identical. But here there are only 10 MC questions! And students are not randomly guessing, they are using the same (mis)conceptions to make choices. Given this, the odds that two non-cheating students get identical results are so high that this purported evidence should not be considered at all.

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          7 hours ago







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          Look at it the other way. You suspect that two students cheated, but then check their answers and they're very different. That would refute the suspicion (or they're really bad cheaters). But if all the answers are the same, it supports it. Note that supporting is not the same thing as confirming, it's just an additional bit of evidence.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago












        • I understand your point, but this would be likely be inadmissible in a disciplinary procedure. I think this is where the "more prejudicial than probative" phrase comes in. Other answers already discuss p-values, etc., I won't wade into that again here.

          – cag51
          6 hours ago











        • @cag51 No, it would not be inadmissible. At both state universities where I've taught, I can state from personal experience with such cases that it would definitely be considered. Whether it would be considered sufficient to support a finding of responsibility is a different question. (If all you had was 10 matching MC questions, I suspect not. But in this case, the OP also observed suspected behavior and given the totality, the combination of observations and matching answers, I suspect they would be found responsible.)

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          4 hours ago












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          The identical answers don't prove anything on their own, but it supports the suspicious activity that he saw.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago






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          In an free-response question, or with 100s of MCs, sure, it's unlikely they just happen to be identical. But here there are only 10 MC questions! And students are not randomly guessing, they are using the same (mis)conceptions to make choices. Given this, the odds that two non-cheating students get identical results are so high that this purported evidence should not be considered at all.

          – cag51
          7 hours ago







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          Look at it the other way. You suspect that two students cheated, but then check their answers and they're very different. That would refute the suspicion (or they're really bad cheaters). But if all the answers are the same, it supports it. Note that supporting is not the same thing as confirming, it's just an additional bit of evidence.

          – Barmar
          7 hours ago












        • I understand your point, but this would be likely be inadmissible in a disciplinary procedure. I think this is where the "more prejudicial than probative" phrase comes in. Other answers already discuss p-values, etc., I won't wade into that again here.

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          6 hours ago











        • @cag51 No, it would not be inadmissible. At both state universities where I've taught, I can state from personal experience with such cases that it would definitely be considered. Whether it would be considered sufficient to support a finding of responsibility is a different question. (If all you had was 10 matching MC questions, I suspect not. But in this case, the OP also observed suspected behavior and given the totality, the combination of observations and matching answers, I suspect they would be found responsible.)

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        The identical answers don't prove anything on their own, but it supports the suspicious activity that he saw.

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        The identical answers don't prove anything on their own, but it supports the suspicious activity that he saw.

        – Barmar
        7 hours ago




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        In an free-response question, or with 100s of MCs, sure, it's unlikely they just happen to be identical. But here there are only 10 MC questions! And students are not randomly guessing, they are using the same (mis)conceptions to make choices. Given this, the odds that two non-cheating students get identical results are so high that this purported evidence should not be considered at all.

        – cag51
        7 hours ago






        In an free-response question, or with 100s of MCs, sure, it's unlikely they just happen to be identical. But here there are only 10 MC questions! And students are not randomly guessing, they are using the same (mis)conceptions to make choices. Given this, the odds that two non-cheating students get identical results are so high that this purported evidence should not be considered at all.

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        7 hours ago





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        Look at it the other way. You suspect that two students cheated, but then check their answers and they're very different. That would refute the suspicion (or they're really bad cheaters). But if all the answers are the same, it supports it. Note that supporting is not the same thing as confirming, it's just an additional bit of evidence.

        – Barmar
        7 hours ago






        Look at it the other way. You suspect that two students cheated, but then check their answers and they're very different. That would refute the suspicion (or they're really bad cheaters). But if all the answers are the same, it supports it. Note that supporting is not the same thing as confirming, it's just an additional bit of evidence.

        – Barmar
        7 hours ago














        I understand your point, but this would be likely be inadmissible in a disciplinary procedure. I think this is where the "more prejudicial than probative" phrase comes in. Other answers already discuss p-values, etc., I won't wade into that again here.

        – cag51
        6 hours ago





        I understand your point, but this would be likely be inadmissible in a disciplinary procedure. I think this is where the "more prejudicial than probative" phrase comes in. Other answers already discuss p-values, etc., I won't wade into that again here.

        – cag51
        6 hours ago













        @cag51 No, it would not be inadmissible. At both state universities where I've taught, I can state from personal experience with such cases that it would definitely be considered. Whether it would be considered sufficient to support a finding of responsibility is a different question. (If all you had was 10 matching MC questions, I suspect not. But in this case, the OP also observed suspected behavior and given the totality, the combination of observations and matching answers, I suspect they would be found responsible.)

        – Nicole Hamilton
        4 hours ago





        @cag51 No, it would not be inadmissible. At both state universities where I've taught, I can state from personal experience with such cases that it would definitely be considered. Whether it would be considered sufficient to support a finding of responsibility is a different question. (If all you had was 10 matching MC questions, I suspect not. But in this case, the OP also observed suspected behavior and given the totality, the combination of observations and matching answers, I suspect they would be found responsible.)

        – Nicole Hamilton
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        First, it is totally unprofessional to think of students as friends because you teach them in some sessions or if this influences your decision about whether to report them.



        Next, you ask what could happen if you don't report it. Most likely nothing can happen to you if nobody can prove that you did know about it.
        However! Not reporting is the unethical and wrong thing to do! You should definitely tell the professor (if they are not totally unreasonable) about your suspicion - as a TA, you work for them, so you have to tell them. It's likely that they know what to do and whether some action has to be taken.






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          First, it is totally unprofessional to think of students as friends because you teach them in some sessions or if this influences your decision about whether to report them.



          Next, you ask what could happen if you don't report it. Most likely nothing can happen to you if nobody can prove that you did know about it.
          However! Not reporting is the unethical and wrong thing to do! You should definitely tell the professor (if they are not totally unreasonable) about your suspicion - as a TA, you work for them, so you have to tell them. It's likely that they know what to do and whether some action has to be taken.






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            First, it is totally unprofessional to think of students as friends because you teach them in some sessions or if this influences your decision about whether to report them.



            Next, you ask what could happen if you don't report it. Most likely nothing can happen to you if nobody can prove that you did know about it.
            However! Not reporting is the unethical and wrong thing to do! You should definitely tell the professor (if they are not totally unreasonable) about your suspicion - as a TA, you work for them, so you have to tell them. It's likely that they know what to do and whether some action has to be taken.






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            First, it is totally unprofessional to think of students as friends because you teach them in some sessions or if this influences your decision about whether to report them.



            Next, you ask what could happen if you don't report it. Most likely nothing can happen to you if nobody can prove that you did know about it.
            However! Not reporting is the unethical and wrong thing to do! You should definitely tell the professor (if they are not totally unreasonable) about your suspicion - as a TA, you work for them, so you have to tell them. It's likely that they know what to do and whether some action has to be taken.







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                If your institution has a policy/honor code that requires you to report suspected cheating, you have your answer: You must report it. This is not ambiguous.



                If your institution does not have such a policy, it's a matter of personal ethics regarding whether you report or not. The ethical thing to do is to report the suspected misconduct, no matter how unpleasant it may be to do so. Again, this is not ambiguous.



                Either way, all you're doing is reporting suspected cheating. You are not judge and jury. Once you make the report, it is someone else's problem (an honor council, an academic conduct officer, your professor, your department chair, someone else) to examine the evidence, meet with the students, decide whether to find the students responsible and, if so, what the consequences should be.






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                  Honor code or no, what is the point of having a proctor that doesn't report cheating? This is a fundamental part of the job and not a "matter for personal ethics." (Though your last paragraph is dead on).

                  – cag51
                  23 hours ago






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                  @cag51 I intended my remarks to be clear, that only an unethical or spineless person would accept a job as a TA but fail to carry out the essential duties.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  22 hours ago






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                  @cag51 Absent an external standard, personal ethics are pretty much all you have to go on. Whether or not it's acceptable IS a question of ethics.

                  – barbecue
                  8 hours ago






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                  @eykanal This was not an attack (the OP has not indicated they intend to ignore the misconduct and my answer only addressed the hypothetical) and you have altered my answer so as to omit that even if there is no honor code, the ethical thing to do is report the suspected misconduct, even though it may be unpleasant.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  6 hours ago






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                  Agree, I don't see where the answer attacks anyone, and the comment chain seems very civil, if a bit focused on semantics. Anyway: I agree with Nicole's "better analogy" -- it still seems to me that the conduct in that analogy is unethical regardless of the actor's "personal" ethics (as opposed to the non-personal ethics that determine what is acceptable or not in our society or legal code) or the presence/absence of a written university honor code. But I guess we're going in circles, will desist. Peace!

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                If your institution has a policy/honor code that requires you to report suspected cheating, you have your answer: You must report it. This is not ambiguous.



                If your institution does not have such a policy, it's a matter of personal ethics regarding whether you report or not. The ethical thing to do is to report the suspected misconduct, no matter how unpleasant it may be to do so. Again, this is not ambiguous.



                Either way, all you're doing is reporting suspected cheating. You are not judge and jury. Once you make the report, it is someone else's problem (an honor council, an academic conduct officer, your professor, your department chair, someone else) to examine the evidence, meet with the students, decide whether to find the students responsible and, if so, what the consequences should be.






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                  Honor code or no, what is the point of having a proctor that doesn't report cheating? This is a fundamental part of the job and not a "matter for personal ethics." (Though your last paragraph is dead on).

                  – cag51
                  23 hours ago






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                  @cag51 I intended my remarks to be clear, that only an unethical or spineless person would accept a job as a TA but fail to carry out the essential duties.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  22 hours ago






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                  @cag51 Absent an external standard, personal ethics are pretty much all you have to go on. Whether or not it's acceptable IS a question of ethics.

                  – barbecue
                  8 hours ago






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                  @eykanal This was not an attack (the OP has not indicated they intend to ignore the misconduct and my answer only addressed the hypothetical) and you have altered my answer so as to omit that even if there is no honor code, the ethical thing to do is report the suspected misconduct, even though it may be unpleasant.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  6 hours ago






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                  Agree, I don't see where the answer attacks anyone, and the comment chain seems very civil, if a bit focused on semantics. Anyway: I agree with Nicole's "better analogy" -- it still seems to me that the conduct in that analogy is unethical regardless of the actor's "personal" ethics (as opposed to the non-personal ethics that determine what is acceptable or not in our society or legal code) or the presence/absence of a written university honor code. But I guess we're going in circles, will desist. Peace!

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                If your institution has a policy/honor code that requires you to report suspected cheating, you have your answer: You must report it. This is not ambiguous.



                If your institution does not have such a policy, it's a matter of personal ethics regarding whether you report or not. The ethical thing to do is to report the suspected misconduct, no matter how unpleasant it may be to do so. Again, this is not ambiguous.



                Either way, all you're doing is reporting suspected cheating. You are not judge and jury. Once you make the report, it is someone else's problem (an honor council, an academic conduct officer, your professor, your department chair, someone else) to examine the evidence, meet with the students, decide whether to find the students responsible and, if so, what the consequences should be.






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                If your institution has a policy/honor code that requires you to report suspected cheating, you have your answer: You must report it. This is not ambiguous.



                If your institution does not have such a policy, it's a matter of personal ethics regarding whether you report or not. The ethical thing to do is to report the suspected misconduct, no matter how unpleasant it may be to do so. Again, this is not ambiguous.



                Either way, all you're doing is reporting suspected cheating. You are not judge and jury. Once you make the report, it is someone else's problem (an honor council, an academic conduct officer, your professor, your department chair, someone else) to examine the evidence, meet with the students, decide whether to find the students responsible and, if so, what the consequences should be.







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                  Honor code or no, what is the point of having a proctor that doesn't report cheating? This is a fundamental part of the job and not a "matter for personal ethics." (Though your last paragraph is dead on).

                  – cag51
                  23 hours ago






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                  @cag51 I intended my remarks to be clear, that only an unethical or spineless person would accept a job as a TA but fail to carry out the essential duties.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  22 hours ago






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                  @cag51 Absent an external standard, personal ethics are pretty much all you have to go on. Whether or not it's acceptable IS a question of ethics.

                  – barbecue
                  8 hours ago






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                  @eykanal This was not an attack (the OP has not indicated they intend to ignore the misconduct and my answer only addressed the hypothetical) and you have altered my answer so as to omit that even if there is no honor code, the ethical thing to do is report the suspected misconduct, even though it may be unpleasant.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  6 hours ago






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                  Agree, I don't see where the answer attacks anyone, and the comment chain seems very civil, if a bit focused on semantics. Anyway: I agree with Nicole's "better analogy" -- it still seems to me that the conduct in that analogy is unethical regardless of the actor's "personal" ethics (as opposed to the non-personal ethics that determine what is acceptable or not in our society or legal code) or the presence/absence of a written university honor code. But I guess we're going in circles, will desist. Peace!

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                • 5





                  Honor code or no, what is the point of having a proctor that doesn't report cheating? This is a fundamental part of the job and not a "matter for personal ethics." (Though your last paragraph is dead on).

                  – cag51
                  23 hours ago






                • 3





                  @cag51 I intended my remarks to be clear, that only an unethical or spineless person would accept a job as a TA but fail to carry out the essential duties.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  22 hours ago






                • 1





                  @cag51 Absent an external standard, personal ethics are pretty much all you have to go on. Whether or not it's acceptable IS a question of ethics.

                  – barbecue
                  8 hours ago






                • 1





                  @eykanal This was not an attack (the OP has not indicated they intend to ignore the misconduct and my answer only addressed the hypothetical) and you have altered my answer so as to omit that even if there is no honor code, the ethical thing to do is report the suspected misconduct, even though it may be unpleasant.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  6 hours ago






                • 1





                  Agree, I don't see where the answer attacks anyone, and the comment chain seems very civil, if a bit focused on semantics. Anyway: I agree with Nicole's "better analogy" -- it still seems to me that the conduct in that analogy is unethical regardless of the actor's "personal" ethics (as opposed to the non-personal ethics that determine what is acceptable or not in our society or legal code) or the presence/absence of a written university honor code. But I guess we're going in circles, will desist. Peace!

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                Honor code or no, what is the point of having a proctor that doesn't report cheating? This is a fundamental part of the job and not a "matter for personal ethics." (Though your last paragraph is dead on).

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                Honor code or no, what is the point of having a proctor that doesn't report cheating? This is a fundamental part of the job and not a "matter for personal ethics." (Though your last paragraph is dead on).

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                @cag51 I intended my remarks to be clear, that only an unethical or spineless person would accept a job as a TA but fail to carry out the essential duties.

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                @cag51 I intended my remarks to be clear, that only an unethical or spineless person would accept a job as a TA but fail to carry out the essential duties.

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                @cag51 Absent an external standard, personal ethics are pretty much all you have to go on. Whether or not it's acceptable IS a question of ethics.

                – barbecue
                8 hours ago





                @cag51 Absent an external standard, personal ethics are pretty much all you have to go on. Whether or not it's acceptable IS a question of ethics.

                – barbecue
                8 hours ago




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                @eykanal This was not an attack (the OP has not indicated they intend to ignore the misconduct and my answer only addressed the hypothetical) and you have altered my answer so as to omit that even if there is no honor code, the ethical thing to do is report the suspected misconduct, even though it may be unpleasant.

                – Nicole Hamilton
                6 hours ago





                @eykanal This was not an attack (the OP has not indicated they intend to ignore the misconduct and my answer only addressed the hypothetical) and you have altered my answer so as to omit that even if there is no honor code, the ethical thing to do is report the suspected misconduct, even though it may be unpleasant.

                – Nicole Hamilton
                6 hours ago




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                Agree, I don't see where the answer attacks anyone, and the comment chain seems very civil, if a bit focused on semantics. Anyway: I agree with Nicole's "better analogy" -- it still seems to me that the conduct in that analogy is unethical regardless of the actor's "personal" ethics (as opposed to the non-personal ethics that determine what is acceptable or not in our society or legal code) or the presence/absence of a written university honor code. But I guess we're going in circles, will desist. Peace!

                – cag51
                6 hours ago






                Agree, I don't see where the answer attacks anyone, and the comment chain seems very civil, if a bit focused on semantics. Anyway: I agree with Nicole's "better analogy" -- it still seems to me that the conduct in that analogy is unethical regardless of the actor's "personal" ethics (as opposed to the non-personal ethics that determine what is acceptable or not in our society or legal code) or the presence/absence of a written university honor code. But I guess we're going in circles, will desist. Peace!

                – cag51
                6 hours ago












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                You've lost your chance of fairly reporting those students...



                If you brought these two students up on disciplinary charges, they should be acquitted based on the evidence you provided. Why?



                1. You did not interrupt the supposed cheating activity you claim you witnessed.

                2. You did not report the two supposed cheaters on the spot.

                3. You did nothing for several (?) days later.

                4. You only decided to report two students when you saw they had the same answers for some multiple-choice questions.

                Not only is your behavior suspect, but you are also suffering from confirmation bias w.r.t. the identical multiple-choice questions.



                Now, in a perfect world, it wouldn't even matter if you reported them. But in our world, it's possible a disciplinary body will just rubber-stamp the charge with a conviction. For this reason, you should at this point in time not report these students.



                ... but do something else to address their situation



                I suggest you, or you and the professor, call these two students to a meeting in your or his office (with or without holding back their exam grade). Tell them you believe they have cheated, and what you saw. If they confess, try to agree together on a fair course of action.



                But regardless of whether they confess, try to determine whether one or both of them have been facing difficulties with the course material, or with the timing of exams etc. Try to use your experience and/or time and/or influence with others in faculty or the administrative staff to help them better cope with said difficulty. I realize this is extremely vague advice - but obviously I can't speculate with any specificity. Just remember that your main duty as a teacher is to help your students gain knowledge and understanding of the subject matter - more so than maintaining discipline or ensuring "correct" relative grading.






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                • +1, yes. This is how educators behave. Education isn't supposed to involve "gotcha moments".

                  – Buffy
                  8 hours ago












                • There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. Consider, e.g., the case of Senator John Walsh (D-MT) whose master's degree was revoked by the Army War College when it was discovered he'd plagiarized a paper 10 years earlier. At the two state universities I've taught at, reports of suspected plagiarism can be submitted months later and may still result in findings of responsibility, same as if they'd been submitted the same day.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  7 hours ago












                • @NicoleHamilton: There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. – This is not about the crime expiring; this is about whether the evidence is compelling. And with respect to this, the asker missed the opportunity to have additional witnesses, catching the students in the act, avoiding confirmation bias, etc.

                  – Wrzlprmft
                  5 hours ago











                • @NicoleHamilton: 1. This is not about "statute of limitation", it's about plausibility of the charge. 2. This will not be adjudicated in a US court but by some intra-university disciplinary body. 3. Cheating in an exam is not plagiarism.

                  – einpoklum
                  5 hours ago












                • @einpoklum Your answer, in all 4 parts, argued that the OP should not report the suspected misconduct because too much time (possibly a few days) had elapsed. This is incorrect. There is no statue of limitation on reports of suspected misconduct. And copying answers from someone else on an exam is a form of plagiarism.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  4 hours ago















                2














                You've lost your chance of fairly reporting those students...



                If you brought these two students up on disciplinary charges, they should be acquitted based on the evidence you provided. Why?



                1. You did not interrupt the supposed cheating activity you claim you witnessed.

                2. You did not report the two supposed cheaters on the spot.

                3. You did nothing for several (?) days later.

                4. You only decided to report two students when you saw they had the same answers for some multiple-choice questions.

                Not only is your behavior suspect, but you are also suffering from confirmation bias w.r.t. the identical multiple-choice questions.



                Now, in a perfect world, it wouldn't even matter if you reported them. But in our world, it's possible a disciplinary body will just rubber-stamp the charge with a conviction. For this reason, you should at this point in time not report these students.



                ... but do something else to address their situation



                I suggest you, or you and the professor, call these two students to a meeting in your or his office (with or without holding back their exam grade). Tell them you believe they have cheated, and what you saw. If they confess, try to agree together on a fair course of action.



                But regardless of whether they confess, try to determine whether one or both of them have been facing difficulties with the course material, or with the timing of exams etc. Try to use your experience and/or time and/or influence with others in faculty or the administrative staff to help them better cope with said difficulty. I realize this is extremely vague advice - but obviously I can't speculate with any specificity. Just remember that your main duty as a teacher is to help your students gain knowledge and understanding of the subject matter - more so than maintaining discipline or ensuring "correct" relative grading.






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                • +1, yes. This is how educators behave. Education isn't supposed to involve "gotcha moments".

                  – Buffy
                  8 hours ago












                • There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. Consider, e.g., the case of Senator John Walsh (D-MT) whose master's degree was revoked by the Army War College when it was discovered he'd plagiarized a paper 10 years earlier. At the two state universities I've taught at, reports of suspected plagiarism can be submitted months later and may still result in findings of responsibility, same as if they'd been submitted the same day.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  7 hours ago












                • @NicoleHamilton: There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. – This is not about the crime expiring; this is about whether the evidence is compelling. And with respect to this, the asker missed the opportunity to have additional witnesses, catching the students in the act, avoiding confirmation bias, etc.

                  – Wrzlprmft
                  5 hours ago











                • @NicoleHamilton: 1. This is not about "statute of limitation", it's about plausibility of the charge. 2. This will not be adjudicated in a US court but by some intra-university disciplinary body. 3. Cheating in an exam is not plagiarism.

                  – einpoklum
                  5 hours ago












                • @einpoklum Your answer, in all 4 parts, argued that the OP should not report the suspected misconduct because too much time (possibly a few days) had elapsed. This is incorrect. There is no statue of limitation on reports of suspected misconduct. And copying answers from someone else on an exam is a form of plagiarism.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  4 hours ago













                2












                2








                2







                You've lost your chance of fairly reporting those students...



                If you brought these two students up on disciplinary charges, they should be acquitted based on the evidence you provided. Why?



                1. You did not interrupt the supposed cheating activity you claim you witnessed.

                2. You did not report the two supposed cheaters on the spot.

                3. You did nothing for several (?) days later.

                4. You only decided to report two students when you saw they had the same answers for some multiple-choice questions.

                Not only is your behavior suspect, but you are also suffering from confirmation bias w.r.t. the identical multiple-choice questions.



                Now, in a perfect world, it wouldn't even matter if you reported them. But in our world, it's possible a disciplinary body will just rubber-stamp the charge with a conviction. For this reason, you should at this point in time not report these students.



                ... but do something else to address their situation



                I suggest you, or you and the professor, call these two students to a meeting in your or his office (with or without holding back their exam grade). Tell them you believe they have cheated, and what you saw. If they confess, try to agree together on a fair course of action.



                But regardless of whether they confess, try to determine whether one or both of them have been facing difficulties with the course material, or with the timing of exams etc. Try to use your experience and/or time and/or influence with others in faculty or the administrative staff to help them better cope with said difficulty. I realize this is extremely vague advice - but obviously I can't speculate with any specificity. Just remember that your main duty as a teacher is to help your students gain knowledge and understanding of the subject matter - more so than maintaining discipline or ensuring "correct" relative grading.






                share|improve this answer















                You've lost your chance of fairly reporting those students...



                If you brought these two students up on disciplinary charges, they should be acquitted based on the evidence you provided. Why?



                1. You did not interrupt the supposed cheating activity you claim you witnessed.

                2. You did not report the two supposed cheaters on the spot.

                3. You did nothing for several (?) days later.

                4. You only decided to report two students when you saw they had the same answers for some multiple-choice questions.

                Not only is your behavior suspect, but you are also suffering from confirmation bias w.r.t. the identical multiple-choice questions.



                Now, in a perfect world, it wouldn't even matter if you reported them. But in our world, it's possible a disciplinary body will just rubber-stamp the charge with a conviction. For this reason, you should at this point in time not report these students.



                ... but do something else to address their situation



                I suggest you, or you and the professor, call these two students to a meeting in your or his office (with or without holding back their exam grade). Tell them you believe they have cheated, and what you saw. If they confess, try to agree together on a fair course of action.



                But regardless of whether they confess, try to determine whether one or both of them have been facing difficulties with the course material, or with the timing of exams etc. Try to use your experience and/or time and/or influence with others in faculty or the administrative staff to help them better cope with said difficulty. I realize this is extremely vague advice - but obviously I can't speculate with any specificity. Just remember that your main duty as a teacher is to help your students gain knowledge and understanding of the subject matter - more so than maintaining discipline or ensuring "correct" relative grading.







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                • +1, yes. This is how educators behave. Education isn't supposed to involve "gotcha moments".

                  – Buffy
                  8 hours ago












                • There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. Consider, e.g., the case of Senator John Walsh (D-MT) whose master's degree was revoked by the Army War College when it was discovered he'd plagiarized a paper 10 years earlier. At the two state universities I've taught at, reports of suspected plagiarism can be submitted months later and may still result in findings of responsibility, same as if they'd been submitted the same day.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  7 hours ago












                • @NicoleHamilton: There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. – This is not about the crime expiring; this is about whether the evidence is compelling. And with respect to this, the asker missed the opportunity to have additional witnesses, catching the students in the act, avoiding confirmation bias, etc.

                  – Wrzlprmft
                  5 hours ago











                • @NicoleHamilton: 1. This is not about "statute of limitation", it's about plausibility of the charge. 2. This will not be adjudicated in a US court but by some intra-university disciplinary body. 3. Cheating in an exam is not plagiarism.

                  – einpoklum
                  5 hours ago












                • @einpoklum Your answer, in all 4 parts, argued that the OP should not report the suspected misconduct because too much time (possibly a few days) had elapsed. This is incorrect. There is no statue of limitation on reports of suspected misconduct. And copying answers from someone else on an exam is a form of plagiarism.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  4 hours ago

















                • +1, yes. This is how educators behave. Education isn't supposed to involve "gotcha moments".

                  – Buffy
                  8 hours ago












                • There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. Consider, e.g., the case of Senator John Walsh (D-MT) whose master's degree was revoked by the Army War College when it was discovered he'd plagiarized a paper 10 years earlier. At the two state universities I've taught at, reports of suspected plagiarism can be submitted months later and may still result in findings of responsibility, same as if they'd been submitted the same day.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  7 hours ago












                • @NicoleHamilton: There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. – This is not about the crime expiring; this is about whether the evidence is compelling. And with respect to this, the asker missed the opportunity to have additional witnesses, catching the students in the act, avoiding confirmation bias, etc.

                  – Wrzlprmft
                  5 hours ago











                • @NicoleHamilton: 1. This is not about "statute of limitation", it's about plausibility of the charge. 2. This will not be adjudicated in a US court but by some intra-university disciplinary body. 3. Cheating in an exam is not plagiarism.

                  – einpoklum
                  5 hours ago












                • @einpoklum Your answer, in all 4 parts, argued that the OP should not report the suspected misconduct because too much time (possibly a few days) had elapsed. This is incorrect. There is no statue of limitation on reports of suspected misconduct. And copying answers from someone else on an exam is a form of plagiarism.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  4 hours ago
















                +1, yes. This is how educators behave. Education isn't supposed to involve "gotcha moments".

                – Buffy
                8 hours ago






                +1, yes. This is how educators behave. Education isn't supposed to involve "gotcha moments".

                – Buffy
                8 hours ago














                There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. Consider, e.g., the case of Senator John Walsh (D-MT) whose master's degree was revoked by the Army War College when it was discovered he'd plagiarized a paper 10 years earlier. At the two state universities I've taught at, reports of suspected plagiarism can be submitted months later and may still result in findings of responsibility, same as if they'd been submitted the same day.

                – Nicole Hamilton
                7 hours ago






                There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. Consider, e.g., the case of Senator John Walsh (D-MT) whose master's degree was revoked by the Army War College when it was discovered he'd plagiarized a paper 10 years earlier. At the two state universities I've taught at, reports of suspected plagiarism can be submitted months later and may still result in findings of responsibility, same as if they'd been submitted the same day.

                – Nicole Hamilton
                7 hours ago














                @NicoleHamilton: There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. – This is not about the crime expiring; this is about whether the evidence is compelling. And with respect to this, the asker missed the opportunity to have additional witnesses, catching the students in the act, avoiding confirmation bias, etc.

                – Wrzlprmft
                5 hours ago





                @NicoleHamilton: There is no statute of limitations on plagiarism. – This is not about the crime expiring; this is about whether the evidence is compelling. And with respect to this, the asker missed the opportunity to have additional witnesses, catching the students in the act, avoiding confirmation bias, etc.

                – Wrzlprmft
                5 hours ago













                @NicoleHamilton: 1. This is not about "statute of limitation", it's about plausibility of the charge. 2. This will not be adjudicated in a US court but by some intra-university disciplinary body. 3. Cheating in an exam is not plagiarism.

                – einpoklum
                5 hours ago






                @NicoleHamilton: 1. This is not about "statute of limitation", it's about plausibility of the charge. 2. This will not be adjudicated in a US court but by some intra-university disciplinary body. 3. Cheating in an exam is not plagiarism.

                – einpoklum
                5 hours ago














                @einpoklum Your answer, in all 4 parts, argued that the OP should not report the suspected misconduct because too much time (possibly a few days) had elapsed. This is incorrect. There is no statue of limitation on reports of suspected misconduct. And copying answers from someone else on an exam is a form of plagiarism.

                – Nicole Hamilton
                4 hours ago





                @einpoklum Your answer, in all 4 parts, argued that the OP should not report the suspected misconduct because too much time (possibly a few days) had elapsed. This is incorrect. There is no statue of limitation on reports of suspected misconduct. And copying answers from someone else on an exam is a form of plagiarism.

                – Nicole Hamilton
                4 hours ago











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                Identical answers on ten multiple choice questions is, in itself, ZERO evidence of cheating. In the absence of some actual evidence of copying, just ignore it. If it were a hundred questions then maybe there is some evidence. If they were written answers, then yes.



                But what you may have evidence of is that two people have the same misconceptions. Depending on the teaching that isn't especially rare. After all, they heard the same lectures and use the same materials. They may even have studied together.



                Don't make accusations unless you witnessed something improper going on, and then treat the students the same way you would any others. But it is the witness accounts that are the basis of action.




                Let me add a bit. If some of the answers by the two students were actually correct then that is no evidence at all of cheating. So, there is a smaller number of questions that might be questionable. Perhaps the OP will clarify whether the incorrect answers were identical on the two papers, or just both wrong. Also, to do a probability analysis it would be required to know how many questions were wrong, but identical, and how many choices on each question.



                I still maintain that the papers alone are not evidence. The other considerations apply, of course, but it seems that no action was taken and maybe none recorded at the time.






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                  The OP did see other evidence of cheating.

                  – Buzz
                  23 hours ago






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                  @Buzz, then that other evidence is what is actionable.

                  – Buffy
                  23 hours ago











                • I think most honor councils and academic conduct officers would consider identical answers as evidence. I know ours does. It might not be considered conclusive proof, but it would definitely be considered as evidence and the students would be questioned on it.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  8 hours ago











                • @Buffy: I mostly agree, but have a different take. Would appreciate your comment on my answer.

                  – einpoklum
                  8 hours ago












                • @NicoleHamilton - it also depends on the testing instrument. On a 10-question MC, the p-value is way too low to conclude that identical answers are cheating. If there had been 300 MC questions, or an open-ended testing instrument (e.g., essay), identical answers would be much more convincing.

                  – cag51
                  8 hours ago















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                Identical answers on ten multiple choice questions is, in itself, ZERO evidence of cheating. In the absence of some actual evidence of copying, just ignore it. If it were a hundred questions then maybe there is some evidence. If they were written answers, then yes.



                But what you may have evidence of is that two people have the same misconceptions. Depending on the teaching that isn't especially rare. After all, they heard the same lectures and use the same materials. They may even have studied together.



                Don't make accusations unless you witnessed something improper going on, and then treat the students the same way you would any others. But it is the witness accounts that are the basis of action.




                Let me add a bit. If some of the answers by the two students were actually correct then that is no evidence at all of cheating. So, there is a smaller number of questions that might be questionable. Perhaps the OP will clarify whether the incorrect answers were identical on the two papers, or just both wrong. Also, to do a probability analysis it would be required to know how many questions were wrong, but identical, and how many choices on each question.



                I still maintain that the papers alone are not evidence. The other considerations apply, of course, but it seems that no action was taken and maybe none recorded at the time.






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                  The OP did see other evidence of cheating.

                  – Buzz
                  23 hours ago






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                  @Buzz, then that other evidence is what is actionable.

                  – Buffy
                  23 hours ago











                • I think most honor councils and academic conduct officers would consider identical answers as evidence. I know ours does. It might not be considered conclusive proof, but it would definitely be considered as evidence and the students would be questioned on it.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  8 hours ago











                • @Buffy: I mostly agree, but have a different take. Would appreciate your comment on my answer.

                  – einpoklum
                  8 hours ago












                • @NicoleHamilton - it also depends on the testing instrument. On a 10-question MC, the p-value is way too low to conclude that identical answers are cheating. If there had been 300 MC questions, or an open-ended testing instrument (e.g., essay), identical answers would be much more convincing.

                  – cag51
                  8 hours ago













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                Identical answers on ten multiple choice questions is, in itself, ZERO evidence of cheating. In the absence of some actual evidence of copying, just ignore it. If it were a hundred questions then maybe there is some evidence. If they were written answers, then yes.



                But what you may have evidence of is that two people have the same misconceptions. Depending on the teaching that isn't especially rare. After all, they heard the same lectures and use the same materials. They may even have studied together.



                Don't make accusations unless you witnessed something improper going on, and then treat the students the same way you would any others. But it is the witness accounts that are the basis of action.




                Let me add a bit. If some of the answers by the two students were actually correct then that is no evidence at all of cheating. So, there is a smaller number of questions that might be questionable. Perhaps the OP will clarify whether the incorrect answers were identical on the two papers, or just both wrong. Also, to do a probability analysis it would be required to know how many questions were wrong, but identical, and how many choices on each question.



                I still maintain that the papers alone are not evidence. The other considerations apply, of course, but it seems that no action was taken and maybe none recorded at the time.






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                Identical answers on ten multiple choice questions is, in itself, ZERO evidence of cheating. In the absence of some actual evidence of copying, just ignore it. If it were a hundred questions then maybe there is some evidence. If they were written answers, then yes.



                But what you may have evidence of is that two people have the same misconceptions. Depending on the teaching that isn't especially rare. After all, they heard the same lectures and use the same materials. They may even have studied together.



                Don't make accusations unless you witnessed something improper going on, and then treat the students the same way you would any others. But it is the witness accounts that are the basis of action.




                Let me add a bit. If some of the answers by the two students were actually correct then that is no evidence at all of cheating. So, there is a smaller number of questions that might be questionable. Perhaps the OP will clarify whether the incorrect answers were identical on the two papers, or just both wrong. Also, to do a probability analysis it would be required to know how many questions were wrong, but identical, and how many choices on each question.



                I still maintain that the papers alone are not evidence. The other considerations apply, of course, but it seems that no action was taken and maybe none recorded at the time.







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                  The OP did see other evidence of cheating.

                  – Buzz
                  23 hours ago






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                  @Buzz, then that other evidence is what is actionable.

                  – Buffy
                  23 hours ago











                • I think most honor councils and academic conduct officers would consider identical answers as evidence. I know ours does. It might not be considered conclusive proof, but it would definitely be considered as evidence and the students would be questioned on it.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  8 hours ago











                • @Buffy: I mostly agree, but have a different take. Would appreciate your comment on my answer.

                  – einpoklum
                  8 hours ago












                • @NicoleHamilton - it also depends on the testing instrument. On a 10-question MC, the p-value is way too low to conclude that identical answers are cheating. If there had been 300 MC questions, or an open-ended testing instrument (e.g., essay), identical answers would be much more convincing.

                  – cag51
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                  The OP did see other evidence of cheating.

                  – Buzz
                  23 hours ago






                • 1





                  @Buzz, then that other evidence is what is actionable.

                  – Buffy
                  23 hours ago











                • I think most honor councils and academic conduct officers would consider identical answers as evidence. I know ours does. It might not be considered conclusive proof, but it would definitely be considered as evidence and the students would be questioned on it.

                  – Nicole Hamilton
                  8 hours ago











                • @Buffy: I mostly agree, but have a different take. Would appreciate your comment on my answer.

                  – einpoklum
                  8 hours ago












                • @NicoleHamilton - it also depends on the testing instrument. On a 10-question MC, the p-value is way too low to conclude that identical answers are cheating. If there had been 300 MC questions, or an open-ended testing instrument (e.g., essay), identical answers would be much more convincing.

                  – cag51
                  8 hours ago







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                The OP did see other evidence of cheating.

                – Buzz
                23 hours ago





                The OP did see other evidence of cheating.

                – Buzz
                23 hours ago




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                @Buzz, then that other evidence is what is actionable.

                – Buffy
                23 hours ago





                @Buzz, then that other evidence is what is actionable.

                – Buffy
                23 hours ago













                I think most honor councils and academic conduct officers would consider identical answers as evidence. I know ours does. It might not be considered conclusive proof, but it would definitely be considered as evidence and the students would be questioned on it.

                – Nicole Hamilton
                8 hours ago





                I think most honor councils and academic conduct officers would consider identical answers as evidence. I know ours does. It might not be considered conclusive proof, but it would definitely be considered as evidence and the students would be questioned on it.

                – Nicole Hamilton
                8 hours ago













                @Buffy: I mostly agree, but have a different take. Would appreciate your comment on my answer.

                – einpoklum
                8 hours ago






                @Buffy: I mostly agree, but have a different take. Would appreciate your comment on my answer.

                – einpoklum
                8 hours ago














                @NicoleHamilton - it also depends on the testing instrument. On a 10-question MC, the p-value is way too low to conclude that identical answers are cheating. If there had been 300 MC questions, or an open-ended testing instrument (e.g., essay), identical answers would be much more convincing.

                – cag51
                8 hours ago





                @NicoleHamilton - it also depends on the testing instrument. On a 10-question MC, the p-value is way too low to conclude that identical answers are cheating. If there had been 300 MC questions, or an open-ended testing instrument (e.g., essay), identical answers would be much more convincing.

                – cag51
                8 hours ago











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                Your duty was to proctor the exam honestly and with due diligence.



                You SHOULD have reported the suspected copying immediately.



                You SHOULD have reported that the marking confirms your suspicion.



                But your question is about what you CAN do. As a mathemetician, I am sure you know the difference between CAN and SHOULD.



                You COULD continue to do nothing. There would probably be no practical consequences.






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                  Your duty was to proctor the exam honestly and with due diligence.



                  You SHOULD have reported the suspected copying immediately.



                  You SHOULD have reported that the marking confirms your suspicion.



                  But your question is about what you CAN do. As a mathemetician, I am sure you know the difference between CAN and SHOULD.



                  You COULD continue to do nothing. There would probably be no practical consequences.






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                    Your duty was to proctor the exam honestly and with due diligence.



                    You SHOULD have reported the suspected copying immediately.



                    You SHOULD have reported that the marking confirms your suspicion.



                    But your question is about what you CAN do. As a mathemetician, I am sure you know the difference between CAN and SHOULD.



                    You COULD continue to do nothing. There would probably be no practical consequences.






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                    Your duty was to proctor the exam honestly and with due diligence.



                    You SHOULD have reported the suspected copying immediately.



                    You SHOULD have reported that the marking confirms your suspicion.



                    But your question is about what you CAN do. As a mathemetician, I am sure you know the difference between CAN and SHOULD.



                    You COULD continue to do nothing. There would probably be no practical consequences.







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                        The only reason this question is being asked, and the only reason there is an issue at all, is the OP's desire to protect a student (friend?) in her recitation section from consequences. This desire is why no action was taken during the exam, why only minor action has been taken after the exam (collecting forensic evidence and posting here). There is a big difference between wanting a student to succeed because of their merit, and wanting them to succeed despite their lack of merit.



                        This latter desire is entirely misplaced, unprofessional, and indeed dangerous. Now OP is an accessory to potential academic misconduct. What if, instead of copying answers, the students had an answer key that they were copying from, during the exam? What if they had broken into the professor's office to get the answer key? What if they held the professor at gunpoint during the break-in? Ethically, there is no difference here -- the OP should be equally unwilling to protect the students in all these situations.



                        OP's job is to educate the students, not only in the subject matter, but in the academic code of conduct expected in a college setting. Failing to educate them is a breach of responsibility, and encourages the students to continue (or escalate) their misconduct in the future. It is unfair to other students who behaved ethically. And, most importantly, it is a violation of OP's academic conduct.






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                          The only reason this question is being asked, and the only reason there is an issue at all, is the OP's desire to protect a student (friend?) in her recitation section from consequences. This desire is why no action was taken during the exam, why only minor action has been taken after the exam (collecting forensic evidence and posting here). There is a big difference between wanting a student to succeed because of their merit, and wanting them to succeed despite their lack of merit.



                          This latter desire is entirely misplaced, unprofessional, and indeed dangerous. Now OP is an accessory to potential academic misconduct. What if, instead of copying answers, the students had an answer key that they were copying from, during the exam? What if they had broken into the professor's office to get the answer key? What if they held the professor at gunpoint during the break-in? Ethically, there is no difference here -- the OP should be equally unwilling to protect the students in all these situations.



                          OP's job is to educate the students, not only in the subject matter, but in the academic code of conduct expected in a college setting. Failing to educate them is a breach of responsibility, and encourages the students to continue (or escalate) their misconduct in the future. It is unfair to other students who behaved ethically. And, most importantly, it is a violation of OP's academic conduct.






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                            The only reason this question is being asked, and the only reason there is an issue at all, is the OP's desire to protect a student (friend?) in her recitation section from consequences. This desire is why no action was taken during the exam, why only minor action has been taken after the exam (collecting forensic evidence and posting here). There is a big difference between wanting a student to succeed because of their merit, and wanting them to succeed despite their lack of merit.



                            This latter desire is entirely misplaced, unprofessional, and indeed dangerous. Now OP is an accessory to potential academic misconduct. What if, instead of copying answers, the students had an answer key that they were copying from, during the exam? What if they had broken into the professor's office to get the answer key? What if they held the professor at gunpoint during the break-in? Ethically, there is no difference here -- the OP should be equally unwilling to protect the students in all these situations.



                            OP's job is to educate the students, not only in the subject matter, but in the academic code of conduct expected in a college setting. Failing to educate them is a breach of responsibility, and encourages the students to continue (or escalate) their misconduct in the future. It is unfair to other students who behaved ethically. And, most importantly, it is a violation of OP's academic conduct.






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                            The only reason this question is being asked, and the only reason there is an issue at all, is the OP's desire to protect a student (friend?) in her recitation section from consequences. This desire is why no action was taken during the exam, why only minor action has been taken after the exam (collecting forensic evidence and posting here). There is a big difference between wanting a student to succeed because of their merit, and wanting them to succeed despite their lack of merit.



                            This latter desire is entirely misplaced, unprofessional, and indeed dangerous. Now OP is an accessory to potential academic misconduct. What if, instead of copying answers, the students had an answer key that they were copying from, during the exam? What if they had broken into the professor's office to get the answer key? What if they held the professor at gunpoint during the break-in? Ethically, there is no difference here -- the OP should be equally unwilling to protect the students in all these situations.



                            OP's job is to educate the students, not only in the subject matter, but in the academic code of conduct expected in a college setting. Failing to educate them is a breach of responsibility, and encourages the students to continue (or escalate) their misconduct in the future. It is unfair to other students who behaved ethically. And, most importantly, it is a violation of OP's academic conduct.







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                                For one, in just about every serious educational institution I've heard of, beyond high school, from community college on up, cheating on an exam or test and getting caught and reported, can result in expulsion. You don't always just fail the course. Getting accepted to another academic university or graduate school (as opposed to corporate university-like for-profit BS schools), with that on your record, probably isn't going happen. You're often done. College is not high school. It's typically one strike and you're out if you're formally redressed by the administration for egregiously cheating on exams and tests.



                                A better solution, if they really are your friends, might be to call them out as soon as you notice suspicious activity, remind them that cheating is grounds for ending them, whether they are your friend or not, and draw the boundaries of your friendship, in the nicest way possible. Communication and diplomacy are important in social/professional interaction and friendships. That's one of the things you are supposed to learn growing up, and in school.



                                Another solution, if they aren't your friends, is to simply make them aware you are watching them, and if they cheat, you'll know it and something will be done about it. Remember they haven't cheated yet, and no damage has been done, if the test just started, you're hawk-eyeing them, and making them aware of it. Loudly clearing your throat once, and making eye contact, would do the trick. I've seen this done and it's a very effective way to let people know that you take TA'ing seriously and not to **** with you. If they cheat anyway, the consequences are on them. Once they're on your bad side, if they don't cheat after that, keep them on your bad side for the semester, put them under a microscope and whatever their average is in the class, drop it by half a grade for their final grade. If they complain about it, let them know what you could have done. If you catch them again, THEN go to the board. By doing this you are teaching them a very important lesson. Isn't that what college is all about? Teaching and learning?



                                Being passive aggressive with an issue as serious as this, pretending you don't see them, quietly running to the academic review board to snitch on people with cell phone video, then failing them in your class, and possibly getting them expelled, is sociopath behavior. I'm sure if the students realized how serious you take this, how obvious it is that they are cheating, and you are the one TA in the university that not only sees them cheating, but will get them canned, they won't be cheating in your classes.



                                You can be tough and "ethical", but you also have to display some humanity by making the students aware of the parameters they're going to be subjected to, if that's the road you want to travel, and I'm not saying that's a bad way to run your classes; it's a good way. It's probably the best and right way. Just let them see you sharpening your axe and give them a chance to reconsider their behavior before you go cutting their heads off, because not everyone runs their classes that way.



                                This is called managing expectations and is a very important workplace skill. People that can't do it have a very tough row to hoe at work. If you master it, you'll go far.






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                                • A single incident of being found responsible for cheating on exam does not usually result in expulsion. Here at my university, for example, the penalty for misconduct is usually a zero on the assignment and a 1/3 letter grade deduction on the final course grade. (But a zero on a midterm or final + the 1/3 letter grade deduction does usually mean you fail the course.) Also, honor code violations do not appear on a transcript or other records available even to other instructors, so if you leave and apply elsewhere, it's unlikely they will know about the violation.

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                                For one, in just about every serious educational institution I've heard of, beyond high school, from community college on up, cheating on an exam or test and getting caught and reported, can result in expulsion. You don't always just fail the course. Getting accepted to another academic university or graduate school (as opposed to corporate university-like for-profit BS schools), with that on your record, probably isn't going happen. You're often done. College is not high school. It's typically one strike and you're out if you're formally redressed by the administration for egregiously cheating on exams and tests.



                                A better solution, if they really are your friends, might be to call them out as soon as you notice suspicious activity, remind them that cheating is grounds for ending them, whether they are your friend or not, and draw the boundaries of your friendship, in the nicest way possible. Communication and diplomacy are important in social/professional interaction and friendships. That's one of the things you are supposed to learn growing up, and in school.



                                Another solution, if they aren't your friends, is to simply make them aware you are watching them, and if they cheat, you'll know it and something will be done about it. Remember they haven't cheated yet, and no damage has been done, if the test just started, you're hawk-eyeing them, and making them aware of it. Loudly clearing your throat once, and making eye contact, would do the trick. I've seen this done and it's a very effective way to let people know that you take TA'ing seriously and not to **** with you. If they cheat anyway, the consequences are on them. Once they're on your bad side, if they don't cheat after that, keep them on your bad side for the semester, put them under a microscope and whatever their average is in the class, drop it by half a grade for their final grade. If they complain about it, let them know what you could have done. If you catch them again, THEN go to the board. By doing this you are teaching them a very important lesson. Isn't that what college is all about? Teaching and learning?



                                Being passive aggressive with an issue as serious as this, pretending you don't see them, quietly running to the academic review board to snitch on people with cell phone video, then failing them in your class, and possibly getting them expelled, is sociopath behavior. I'm sure if the students realized how serious you take this, how obvious it is that they are cheating, and you are the one TA in the university that not only sees them cheating, but will get them canned, they won't be cheating in your classes.



                                You can be tough and "ethical", but you also have to display some humanity by making the students aware of the parameters they're going to be subjected to, if that's the road you want to travel, and I'm not saying that's a bad way to run your classes; it's a good way. It's probably the best and right way. Just let them see you sharpening your axe and give them a chance to reconsider their behavior before you go cutting their heads off, because not everyone runs their classes that way.



                                This is called managing expectations and is a very important workplace skill. People that can't do it have a very tough row to hoe at work. If you master it, you'll go far.






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                                • A single incident of being found responsible for cheating on exam does not usually result in expulsion. Here at my university, for example, the penalty for misconduct is usually a zero on the assignment and a 1/3 letter grade deduction on the final course grade. (But a zero on a midterm or final + the 1/3 letter grade deduction does usually mean you fail the course.) Also, honor code violations do not appear on a transcript or other records available even to other instructors, so if you leave and apply elsewhere, it's unlikely they will know about the violation.

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                                For one, in just about every serious educational institution I've heard of, beyond high school, from community college on up, cheating on an exam or test and getting caught and reported, can result in expulsion. You don't always just fail the course. Getting accepted to another academic university or graduate school (as opposed to corporate university-like for-profit BS schools), with that on your record, probably isn't going happen. You're often done. College is not high school. It's typically one strike and you're out if you're formally redressed by the administration for egregiously cheating on exams and tests.



                                A better solution, if they really are your friends, might be to call them out as soon as you notice suspicious activity, remind them that cheating is grounds for ending them, whether they are your friend or not, and draw the boundaries of your friendship, in the nicest way possible. Communication and diplomacy are important in social/professional interaction and friendships. That's one of the things you are supposed to learn growing up, and in school.



                                Another solution, if they aren't your friends, is to simply make them aware you are watching them, and if they cheat, you'll know it and something will be done about it. Remember they haven't cheated yet, and no damage has been done, if the test just started, you're hawk-eyeing them, and making them aware of it. Loudly clearing your throat once, and making eye contact, would do the trick. I've seen this done and it's a very effective way to let people know that you take TA'ing seriously and not to **** with you. If they cheat anyway, the consequences are on them. Once they're on your bad side, if they don't cheat after that, keep them on your bad side for the semester, put them under a microscope and whatever their average is in the class, drop it by half a grade for their final grade. If they complain about it, let them know what you could have done. If you catch them again, THEN go to the board. By doing this you are teaching them a very important lesson. Isn't that what college is all about? Teaching and learning?



                                Being passive aggressive with an issue as serious as this, pretending you don't see them, quietly running to the academic review board to snitch on people with cell phone video, then failing them in your class, and possibly getting them expelled, is sociopath behavior. I'm sure if the students realized how serious you take this, how obvious it is that they are cheating, and you are the one TA in the university that not only sees them cheating, but will get them canned, they won't be cheating in your classes.



                                You can be tough and "ethical", but you also have to display some humanity by making the students aware of the parameters they're going to be subjected to, if that's the road you want to travel, and I'm not saying that's a bad way to run your classes; it's a good way. It's probably the best and right way. Just let them see you sharpening your axe and give them a chance to reconsider their behavior before you go cutting their heads off, because not everyone runs their classes that way.



                                This is called managing expectations and is a very important workplace skill. People that can't do it have a very tough row to hoe at work. If you master it, you'll go far.






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                                For one, in just about every serious educational institution I've heard of, beyond high school, from community college on up, cheating on an exam or test and getting caught and reported, can result in expulsion. You don't always just fail the course. Getting accepted to another academic university or graduate school (as opposed to corporate university-like for-profit BS schools), with that on your record, probably isn't going happen. You're often done. College is not high school. It's typically one strike and you're out if you're formally redressed by the administration for egregiously cheating on exams and tests.



                                A better solution, if they really are your friends, might be to call them out as soon as you notice suspicious activity, remind them that cheating is grounds for ending them, whether they are your friend or not, and draw the boundaries of your friendship, in the nicest way possible. Communication and diplomacy are important in social/professional interaction and friendships. That's one of the things you are supposed to learn growing up, and in school.



                                Another solution, if they aren't your friends, is to simply make them aware you are watching them, and if they cheat, you'll know it and something will be done about it. Remember they haven't cheated yet, and no damage has been done, if the test just started, you're hawk-eyeing them, and making them aware of it. Loudly clearing your throat once, and making eye contact, would do the trick. I've seen this done and it's a very effective way to let people know that you take TA'ing seriously and not to **** with you. If they cheat anyway, the consequences are on them. Once they're on your bad side, if they don't cheat after that, keep them on your bad side for the semester, put them under a microscope and whatever their average is in the class, drop it by half a grade for their final grade. If they complain about it, let them know what you could have done. If you catch them again, THEN go to the board. By doing this you are teaching them a very important lesson. Isn't that what college is all about? Teaching and learning?



                                Being passive aggressive with an issue as serious as this, pretending you don't see them, quietly running to the academic review board to snitch on people with cell phone video, then failing them in your class, and possibly getting them expelled, is sociopath behavior. I'm sure if the students realized how serious you take this, how obvious it is that they are cheating, and you are the one TA in the university that not only sees them cheating, but will get them canned, they won't be cheating in your classes.



                                You can be tough and "ethical", but you also have to display some humanity by making the students aware of the parameters they're going to be subjected to, if that's the road you want to travel, and I'm not saying that's a bad way to run your classes; it's a good way. It's probably the best and right way. Just let them see you sharpening your axe and give them a chance to reconsider their behavior before you go cutting their heads off, because not everyone runs their classes that way.



                                This is called managing expectations and is a very important workplace skill. People that can't do it have a very tough row to hoe at work. If you master it, you'll go far.







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                                • A single incident of being found responsible for cheating on exam does not usually result in expulsion. Here at my university, for example, the penalty for misconduct is usually a zero on the assignment and a 1/3 letter grade deduction on the final course grade. (But a zero on a midterm or final + the 1/3 letter grade deduction does usually mean you fail the course.) Also, honor code violations do not appear on a transcript or other records available even to other instructors, so if you leave and apply elsewhere, it's unlikely they will know about the violation.

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                                • A single incident of being found responsible for cheating on exam does not usually result in expulsion. Here at my university, for example, the penalty for misconduct is usually a zero on the assignment and a 1/3 letter grade deduction on the final course grade. (But a zero on a midterm or final + the 1/3 letter grade deduction does usually mean you fail the course.) Also, honor code violations do not appear on a transcript or other records available even to other instructors, so if you leave and apply elsewhere, it's unlikely they will know about the violation.

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                                A single incident of being found responsible for cheating on exam does not usually result in expulsion. Here at my university, for example, the penalty for misconduct is usually a zero on the assignment and a 1/3 letter grade deduction on the final course grade. (But a zero on a midterm or final + the 1/3 letter grade deduction does usually mean you fail the course.) Also, honor code violations do not appear on a transcript or other records available even to other instructors, so if you leave and apply elsewhere, it's unlikely they will know about the violation.

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                                3 hours ago





                                A single incident of being found responsible for cheating on exam does not usually result in expulsion. Here at my university, for example, the penalty for misconduct is usually a zero on the assignment and a 1/3 letter grade deduction on the final course grade. (But a zero on a midterm or final + the 1/3 letter grade deduction does usually mean you fail the course.) Also, honor code violations do not appear on a transcript or other records available even to other instructors, so if you leave and apply elsewhere, it's unlikely they will know about the violation.

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                                If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?



                                From the perspective of the educational institution it is not ethical to ignore your suspicions, but you are not an educational institution.



                                In terms of effects on you personally, reporting your suspicions can only potentially harm your friends. There is no situation where reporting can leave them better off than before. This can only either have no effect or harm your friendships.



                                If you don't report then... nothing happens. The two students in question are not likely to report themselves for cheating and the other students in the class won't be able to prove that you saw them cheating if they noticed something and decided to report.



                                The only situation where it makes sense for you to report them is if you value favor within the college more than them having a positive opinion of you.



                                Other answers that worry about being "professional" or "ethical" completely miss the reality of your position. You are a TA for a college that you will likely be leaving soon. If you take personal investment in the integrity of their test results that is your business, but I can't imagine why you would. You harm the college far less by letting this slide than you would harm your friends by reporting it.






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                                  Following this line of reasoning, would it be okay to give your friends an advance copy of the exam as well if you know you won't be caught?

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                                • Yes, but in that case there is a high enough chance of you getting caught that it doesn't make sense to take on that risk for them. The benefit to your friends would be mild, the risk to you would be great, and the amount that your friendship would improve based on that would probably be relatively little. Not to mention that improvements in friendship can be "bought" in far cheaper ways. Plus in that situation information is distributed differently. It gives those people leverage over you since they know you were involved. In the case of this question no-one else has that information.

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                                • This answer seems to be from the perspective of pure self-interest, which I think is more or less the opposite of ethics. It is one way to look at the situation, but I don't think it's one that most academics would promote.

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                                • Why is it more ethical to act in the interest of a college than in your own interest and in the interest of those you value?

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                                If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?



                                From the perspective of the educational institution it is not ethical to ignore your suspicions, but you are not an educational institution.



                                In terms of effects on you personally, reporting your suspicions can only potentially harm your friends. There is no situation where reporting can leave them better off than before. This can only either have no effect or harm your friendships.



                                If you don't report then... nothing happens. The two students in question are not likely to report themselves for cheating and the other students in the class won't be able to prove that you saw them cheating if they noticed something and decided to report.



                                The only situation where it makes sense for you to report them is if you value favor within the college more than them having a positive opinion of you.



                                Other answers that worry about being "professional" or "ethical" completely miss the reality of your position. You are a TA for a college that you will likely be leaving soon. If you take personal investment in the integrity of their test results that is your business, but I can't imagine why you would. You harm the college far less by letting this slide than you would harm your friends by reporting it.






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                                  Following this line of reasoning, would it be okay to give your friends an advance copy of the exam as well if you know you won't be caught?

                                  – Nicole Hamilton
                                  7 hours ago











                                • Yes, but in that case there is a high enough chance of you getting caught that it doesn't make sense to take on that risk for them. The benefit to your friends would be mild, the risk to you would be great, and the amount that your friendship would improve based on that would probably be relatively little. Not to mention that improvements in friendship can be "bought" in far cheaper ways. Plus in that situation information is distributed differently. It gives those people leverage over you since they know you were involved. In the case of this question no-one else has that information.

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                                  7 hours ago












                                • This answer seems to be from the perspective of pure self-interest, which I think is more or less the opposite of ethics. It is one way to look at the situation, but I don't think it's one that most academics would promote.

                                  – Nate Eldredge
                                  1 hour ago












                                • Why is it more ethical to act in the interest of a college than in your own interest and in the interest of those you value?

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                                  53 mins ago













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                                If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?



                                From the perspective of the educational institution it is not ethical to ignore your suspicions, but you are not an educational institution.



                                In terms of effects on you personally, reporting your suspicions can only potentially harm your friends. There is no situation where reporting can leave them better off than before. This can only either have no effect or harm your friendships.



                                If you don't report then... nothing happens. The two students in question are not likely to report themselves for cheating and the other students in the class won't be able to prove that you saw them cheating if they noticed something and decided to report.



                                The only situation where it makes sense for you to report them is if you value favor within the college more than them having a positive opinion of you.



                                Other answers that worry about being "professional" or "ethical" completely miss the reality of your position. You are a TA for a college that you will likely be leaving soon. If you take personal investment in the integrity of their test results that is your business, but I can't imagine why you would. You harm the college far less by letting this slide than you would harm your friends by reporting it.






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                                If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?



                                From the perspective of the educational institution it is not ethical to ignore your suspicions, but you are not an educational institution.



                                In terms of effects on you personally, reporting your suspicions can only potentially harm your friends. There is no situation where reporting can leave them better off than before. This can only either have no effect or harm your friendships.



                                If you don't report then... nothing happens. The two students in question are not likely to report themselves for cheating and the other students in the class won't be able to prove that you saw them cheating if they noticed something and decided to report.



                                The only situation where it makes sense for you to report them is if you value favor within the college more than them having a positive opinion of you.



                                Other answers that worry about being "professional" or "ethical" completely miss the reality of your position. You are a TA for a college that you will likely be leaving soon. If you take personal investment in the integrity of their test results that is your business, but I can't imagine why you would. You harm the college far less by letting this slide than you would harm your friends by reporting it.







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                                  Following this line of reasoning, would it be okay to give your friends an advance copy of the exam as well if you know you won't be caught?

                                  – Nicole Hamilton
                                  7 hours ago











                                • Yes, but in that case there is a high enough chance of you getting caught that it doesn't make sense to take on that risk for them. The benefit to your friends would be mild, the risk to you would be great, and the amount that your friendship would improve based on that would probably be relatively little. Not to mention that improvements in friendship can be "bought" in far cheaper ways. Plus in that situation information is distributed differently. It gives those people leverage over you since they know you were involved. In the case of this question no-one else has that information.

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                                  7 hours ago












                                • This answer seems to be from the perspective of pure self-interest, which I think is more or less the opposite of ethics. It is one way to look at the situation, but I don't think it's one that most academics would promote.

                                  – Nate Eldredge
                                  1 hour ago












                                • Why is it more ethical to act in the interest of a college than in your own interest and in the interest of those you value?

                                  – Ethan McCue
                                  53 mins ago












                                • 2





                                  Following this line of reasoning, would it be okay to give your friends an advance copy of the exam as well if you know you won't be caught?

                                  – Nicole Hamilton
                                  7 hours ago











                                • Yes, but in that case there is a high enough chance of you getting caught that it doesn't make sense to take on that risk for them. The benefit to your friends would be mild, the risk to you would be great, and the amount that your friendship would improve based on that would probably be relatively little. Not to mention that improvements in friendship can be "bought" in far cheaper ways. Plus in that situation information is distributed differently. It gives those people leverage over you since they know you were involved. In the case of this question no-one else has that information.

                                  – Ethan McCue
                                  7 hours ago












                                • This answer seems to be from the perspective of pure self-interest, which I think is more or less the opposite of ethics. It is one way to look at the situation, but I don't think it's one that most academics would promote.

                                  – Nate Eldredge
                                  1 hour ago












                                • Why is it more ethical to act in the interest of a college than in your own interest and in the interest of those you value?

                                  – Ethan McCue
                                  53 mins ago







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                                2





                                Following this line of reasoning, would it be okay to give your friends an advance copy of the exam as well if you know you won't be caught?

                                – Nicole Hamilton
                                7 hours ago





                                Following this line of reasoning, would it be okay to give your friends an advance copy of the exam as well if you know you won't be caught?

                                – Nicole Hamilton
                                7 hours ago













                                Yes, but in that case there is a high enough chance of you getting caught that it doesn't make sense to take on that risk for them. The benefit to your friends would be mild, the risk to you would be great, and the amount that your friendship would improve based on that would probably be relatively little. Not to mention that improvements in friendship can be "bought" in far cheaper ways. Plus in that situation information is distributed differently. It gives those people leverage over you since they know you were involved. In the case of this question no-one else has that information.

                                – Ethan McCue
                                7 hours ago






                                Yes, but in that case there is a high enough chance of you getting caught that it doesn't make sense to take on that risk for them. The benefit to your friends would be mild, the risk to you would be great, and the amount that your friendship would improve based on that would probably be relatively little. Not to mention that improvements in friendship can be "bought" in far cheaper ways. Plus in that situation information is distributed differently. It gives those people leverage over you since they know you were involved. In the case of this question no-one else has that information.

                                – Ethan McCue
                                7 hours ago














                                This answer seems to be from the perspective of pure self-interest, which I think is more or less the opposite of ethics. It is one way to look at the situation, but I don't think it's one that most academics would promote.

                                – Nate Eldredge
                                1 hour ago






                                This answer seems to be from the perspective of pure self-interest, which I think is more or less the opposite of ethics. It is one way to look at the situation, but I don't think it's one that most academics would promote.

                                – Nate Eldredge
                                1 hour ago














                                Why is it more ethical to act in the interest of a college than in your own interest and in the interest of those you value?

                                – Ethan McCue
                                53 mins ago





                                Why is it more ethical to act in the interest of a college than in your own interest and in the interest of those you value?

                                – Ethan McCue
                                53 mins ago





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