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My contracting rate is a similar structure to the following (with the numbers changed):



  • $10/hr for less than 24 hours

  • $8/hr for 24 hours or longer

I have been talking with a client about some work and they want to hire me for a number of hours, but those hours are yet to be determined.



They have proposed to pay me a rate of $8, with the intention that there will be more than 24 hours of work - they expect 36 hours. However, this runs the risk that we only do a small number of hours - there is a significant chance that after 8 hours of work we stop there.



What should I say or counter propose? The mathematics of my above works out to the following, but I don't know if it's appropriate and legal to propose this as a payment structure in the formal contract:



  • $10/hr for the first 24 hours

  • $0/hr for the subsequent 6 hours

  • $8/hr for the remaining hours

Is this a good idea? Is it commonly done?










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My contracting rate is a similar structure to the following (with the numbers changed):



  • $10/hr for less than 24 hours

  • $8/hr for 24 hours or longer

I have been talking with a client about some work and they want to hire me for a number of hours, but those hours are yet to be determined.



They have proposed to pay me a rate of $8, with the intention that there will be more than 24 hours of work - they expect 36 hours. However, this runs the risk that we only do a small number of hours - there is a significant chance that after 8 hours of work we stop there.



What should I say or counter propose? The mathematics of my above works out to the following, but I don't know if it's appropriate and legal to propose this as a payment structure in the formal contract:



  • $10/hr for the first 24 hours

  • $0/hr for the subsequent 6 hours

  • $8/hr for the remaining hours

Is this a good idea? Is it commonly done?










share|improve this question









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My contracting rate is a similar structure to the following (with the numbers changed):



  • $10/hr for less than 24 hours

  • $8/hr for 24 hours or longer

I have been talking with a client about some work and they want to hire me for a number of hours, but those hours are yet to be determined.



They have proposed to pay me a rate of $8, with the intention that there will be more than 24 hours of work - they expect 36 hours. However, this runs the risk that we only do a small number of hours - there is a significant chance that after 8 hours of work we stop there.



What should I say or counter propose? The mathematics of my above works out to the following, but I don't know if it's appropriate and legal to propose this as a payment structure in the formal contract:



  • $10/hr for the first 24 hours

  • $0/hr for the subsequent 6 hours

  • $8/hr for the remaining hours

Is this a good idea? Is it commonly done?










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My contracting rate is a similar structure to the following (with the numbers changed):



  • $10/hr for less than 24 hours

  • $8/hr for 24 hours or longer

I have been talking with a client about some work and they want to hire me for a number of hours, but those hours are yet to be determined.



They have proposed to pay me a rate of $8, with the intention that there will be more than 24 hours of work - they expect 36 hours. However, this runs the risk that we only do a small number of hours - there is a significant chance that after 8 hours of work we stop there.



What should I say or counter propose? The mathematics of my above works out to the following, but I don't know if it's appropriate and legal to propose this as a payment structure in the formal contract:



  • $10/hr for the first 24 hours

  • $0/hr for the subsequent 6 hours

  • $8/hr for the remaining hours

Is this a good idea? Is it commonly done?







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It's always helpful to include a location because different regions have different norms but I am not aware of a region where it would be normal to have a contract that includes a billing rate of $0 for a chunk of hours.



Assuming that you want the end result to work out to exactly what your normal rate is, it would generally make more sense to offer some sort of "bulk discount"



  1. $10/hr for the first 24 hours

  2. $8/hr for subsequent hours

  3. A $48 discount once the total number of hours reaches 24

Assuming that the services you offer are things that the company is likely to need at least periodically, you could ask them to buy 24 hours of your time at $8/hr now with the ability to use that time on subsequent projects if they don't use all of it now. So if they use 8 hours on this project, they still pay you for 24 hours and can use 16 hours in a month when the next project comes along.





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    It's always helpful to include a location because different regions have different norms but I am not aware of a region where it would be normal to have a contract that includes a billing rate of $0 for a chunk of hours.



    Assuming that you want the end result to work out to exactly what your normal rate is, it would generally make more sense to offer some sort of "bulk discount"



    1. $10/hr for the first 24 hours

    2. $8/hr for subsequent hours

    3. A $48 discount once the total number of hours reaches 24

    Assuming that the services you offer are things that the company is likely to need at least periodically, you could ask them to buy 24 hours of your time at $8/hr now with the ability to use that time on subsequent projects if they don't use all of it now. So if they use 8 hours on this project, they still pay you for 24 hours and can use 16 hours in a month when the next project comes along.





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      It's always helpful to include a location because different regions have different norms but I am not aware of a region where it would be normal to have a contract that includes a billing rate of $0 for a chunk of hours.



      Assuming that you want the end result to work out to exactly what your normal rate is, it would generally make more sense to offer some sort of "bulk discount"



      1. $10/hr for the first 24 hours

      2. $8/hr for subsequent hours

      3. A $48 discount once the total number of hours reaches 24

      Assuming that the services you offer are things that the company is likely to need at least periodically, you could ask them to buy 24 hours of your time at $8/hr now with the ability to use that time on subsequent projects if they don't use all of it now. So if they use 8 hours on this project, they still pay you for 24 hours and can use 16 hours in a month when the next project comes along.





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        Assuming that you want the end result to work out to exactly what your normal rate is, it would generally make more sense to offer some sort of "bulk discount"



        1. $10/hr for the first 24 hours

        2. $8/hr for subsequent hours

        3. A $48 discount once the total number of hours reaches 24

        Assuming that the services you offer are things that the company is likely to need at least periodically, you could ask them to buy 24 hours of your time at $8/hr now with the ability to use that time on subsequent projects if they don't use all of it now. So if they use 8 hours on this project, they still pay you for 24 hours and can use 16 hours in a month when the next project comes along.





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        It's always helpful to include a location because different regions have different norms but I am not aware of a region where it would be normal to have a contract that includes a billing rate of $0 for a chunk of hours.



        Assuming that you want the end result to work out to exactly what your normal rate is, it would generally make more sense to offer some sort of "bulk discount"



        1. $10/hr for the first 24 hours

        2. $8/hr for subsequent hours

        3. A $48 discount once the total number of hours reaches 24

        Assuming that the services you offer are things that the company is likely to need at least periodically, you could ask them to buy 24 hours of your time at $8/hr now with the ability to use that time on subsequent projects if they don't use all of it now. So if they use 8 hours on this project, they still pay you for 24 hours and can use 16 hours in a month when the next project comes along.






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