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I am using the D&D Beyond character builder to create a ranger. If I pick humanoids, it does not list half-elves or half-orc in the dropdown, but it does list humans, elves and orcs:

I see three possibilities:

1. I can not choose either one;


2. I can get half-elf if I pick human or elf or I can get half-orc if I pick human or orc;


3. They forgot to include them.

I am in a group that is new to 5th and we are only using the Player's Handbook. I haven't seen anything in that book that covers this.

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I am using the D&D Beyond character builder to create a ranger. If I pick humanoids, it does not list half-elves or half-orc in the dropdown, but it does list humans, elves and orcs:

I see three possibilities:

1. I can not choose either one;


2. I can get half-elf if I pick human or elf or I can get half-orc if I pick human or orc;


3. They forgot to include them.

I am in a group that is new to 5th and we are only using the Player's Handbook. I haven't seen anything in that book that covers this.

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I am using the D&D Beyond character builder to create a ranger. If I pick humanoids, it does not list half-elves or half-orc in the dropdown, but it does list humans, elves and orcs:

I see three possibilities:

1. I can not choose either one;


2. I can get half-elf if I pick human or elf or I can get half-orc if I pick human or orc;


3. They forgot to include them.

I am in a group that is new to 5th and we are only using the Player's Handbook. I haven't seen anything in that book that covers this.

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Half-elf and half-orc are their own separate races.

In D&D 5e, the general principle is that a rule says what it says, and no more. Everything else is up to the DM.

The ranger's favored enemy states:

Alternatively, you can select two races of humanoid (such as gnolls and orcs) as favored enemies.

Since half-elf and half-orc are both humanoid races appearing in the Player's Handbook, you can select them as favored enemies.

There's nothing in the rules which explicitly states that half-elves count as humans, or as elves, although they do have "elf blood". Historically, in earlier editions of the D&D rules, half-elves could count as elves for various purposes, such as magic items that only work for elves, and so on. However, that would be up to the DM to allow (I'd probably allow it in my campaigns).

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It isn't clear. Ask your DM.

The Ranger's Favored Enemy feature says:

Choose a type of favored enemy: [...] you can select two races of humanoid
(such as gnolls and orcs)

Neither example race is present within the Player's Handbook, but both are present in the Dungeon Master's Guide and the Monster Manual. And half-races are only present in the Player's Handbook.

Which seems to suggest that the player races are not to be considered. (So no half-races.)

This presents 4 possibilities:

• half-races are included in human


• half-races are included in their non-human lineage


• half-races are included in both lineages


• half-races are not included at all

Personally, I would rule them to be included in their non-human lineage (so half-elf with elf, and half-orc with orc), due to their stat blocks (scores, size, speed, etc), as their blocks lean more toward non-human than human.

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Half-elf and half-orc are their own separate races.

In D&D 5e, the general principle is that a rule says what it says, and no more. Everything else is up to the DM.

The ranger's favored enemy states:

Alternatively, you can select two races of humanoid (such as gnolls and orcs) as favored enemies.

Since half-elf and half-orc are both humanoid races appearing in the Player's Handbook, you can select them as favored enemies.

There's nothing in the rules which explicitly states that half-elves count as humans, or as elves, although they do have "elf blood". Historically, in earlier editions of the D&D rules, half-elves could count as elves for various purposes, such as magic items that only work for elves, and so on. However, that would be up to the DM to allow (I'd probably allow it in my campaigns).

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  If you want further evidence that half-elves do not count as elves there's the racial feat prerequisites on Xanathar's in which for example Elven Accuracy has both elf and half-elf. JC has also unofficially commented on this in this tweet
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  @Sdjz Maybe, but it is also just as possible that they did it for specificity to avoid doubt on what they meant. Something I which they did for quite a few other things.
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Half-elf and half-orc are their own separate races.

In D&D 5e, the general principle is that a rule says what it says, and no more. Everything else is up to the DM.

The ranger's favored enemy states:

Alternatively, you can select two races of humanoid (such as gnolls and orcs) as favored enemies.

Since half-elf and half-orc are both humanoid races appearing in the Player's Handbook, you can select them as favored enemies.

There's nothing in the rules which explicitly states that half-elves count as humans, or as elves, although they do have "elf blood". Historically, in earlier editions of the D&D rules, half-elves could count as elves for various purposes, such as magic items that only work for elves, and so on. However, that would be up to the DM to allow (I'd probably allow it in my campaigns).

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  If you want further evidence that half-elves do not count as elves there's the racial feat prerequisites on Xanathar's in which for example Elven Accuracy has both elf and half-elf. JC has also unofficially commented on this in this tweet
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  @Sdjz Maybe, but it is also just as possible that they did it for specificity to avoid doubt on what they meant. Something I which they did for quite a few other things.
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  – Slagmoth
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Half-elf and half-orc are their own separate races.

In D&D 5e, the general principle is that a rule says what it says, and no more. Everything else is up to the DM.

The ranger's favored enemy states:

Alternatively, you can select two races of humanoid (such as gnolls and orcs) as favored enemies.

Since half-elf and half-orc are both humanoid races appearing in the Player's Handbook, you can select them as favored enemies.

There's nothing in the rules which explicitly states that half-elves count as humans, or as elves, although they do have "elf blood". Historically, in earlier editions of the D&D rules, half-elves could count as elves for various purposes, such as magic items that only work for elves, and so on. However, that would be up to the DM to allow (I'd probably allow it in my campaigns).

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It isn't clear. Ask your DM.

The Ranger's Favored Enemy feature says:

Choose a type of favored enemy: [...] you can select two races of humanoid
(such as gnolls and orcs)

Neither example race is present within the Player's Handbook, but both are present in the Dungeon Master's Guide and the Monster Manual. And half-races are only present in the Player's Handbook.

Which seems to suggest that the player races are not to be considered. (So no half-races.)

This presents 4 possibilities:

• half-races are included in human


• half-races are included in their non-human lineage


• half-races are included in both lineages


• half-races are not included at all

Personally, I would rule them to be included in their non-human lineage (so half-elf with elf, and half-orc with orc), due to their stat blocks (scores, size, speed, etc), as their blocks lean more toward non-human than human.

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  For what it's worth, there are monsters that are explicitly labeled as "humanoid (half-elf)" in a couple adventure modules. You can see them in this D&D Beyond search. This seems to suggest, as explained by Quadratic Wizard that they are entirely separate in the rules.
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It isn't clear. Ask your DM.

The Ranger's Favored Enemy feature says:

Choose a type of favored enemy: [...] you can select two races of humanoid
(such as gnolls and orcs)

Neither example race is present within the Player's Handbook, but both are present in the Dungeon Master's Guide and the Monster Manual. And half-races are only present in the Player's Handbook.

Which seems to suggest that the player races are not to be considered. (So no half-races.)

This presents 4 possibilities:

• half-races are included in human


• half-races are included in their non-human lineage


• half-races are included in both lineages


• half-races are not included at all

Personally, I would rule them to be included in their non-human lineage (so half-elf with elf, and half-orc with orc), due to their stat blocks (scores, size, speed, etc), as their blocks lean more toward non-human than human.

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  For what it's worth, there are monsters that are explicitly labeled as "humanoid (half-elf)" in a couple adventure modules. You can see them in this D&D Beyond search. This seems to suggest, as explained by Quadratic Wizard that they are entirely separate in the rules.
  $endgroup$
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  The need for "half-advantage" rises again!
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It isn't clear. Ask your DM.

The Ranger's Favored Enemy feature says:

Choose a type of favored enemy: [...] you can select two races of humanoid
(such as gnolls and orcs)

Neither example race is present within the Player's Handbook, but both are present in the Dungeon Master's Guide and the Monster Manual. And half-races are only present in the Player's Handbook.

Which seems to suggest that the player races are not to be considered. (So no half-races.)

This presents 4 possibilities:

• half-races are included in human


• half-races are included in their non-human lineage


• half-races are included in both lineages


• half-races are not included at all

Personally, I would rule them to be included in their non-human lineage (so half-elf with elf, and half-orc with orc), due to their stat blocks (scores, size, speed, etc), as their blocks lean more toward non-human than human.

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