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Given that an Octatonic Scale has 8 notes, what are the names of the scale intervals e.g. for a diminished scale?


Notating the diminished ScaleWhat note(s) are a diminished 3rd above D-flat?Is there a term to describe an augmented second as a step or tone instead of an interval?What is the melodic minor scale with a flattened 5 called?Are intervals always used in the context of a scale?Which are all the musical intervals that are valid?How to name more than seven scale tones?Is it true that “The augmented fourth (A4) and the diminished fifth (d5) are the only aug and dim intervals that appear in diatonic scales”Are all diatonic chords in the diminished scale diminished?






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Assuming the C° (half/whole) scale (C D♭ E♭ E G♭ G A B♭ C) comprises the intervals P1, m2, m3, d4, d5, d6, and m7, what is the correct name/interval descriptions for B♭ & C (the 8th & 9th tones)?










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Assuming the C° (half/whole) scale (C D♭ E♭ E G♭ G A B♭ C) comprises the intervals P1, m2, m3, d4, d5, d6, and m7, what is the correct name/interval descriptions for B♭ & C (the 8th & 9th tones)?










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Assuming the C° (half/whole) scale (C D♭ E♭ E G♭ G A B♭ C) comprises the intervals P1, m2, m3, d4, d5, d6, and m7, what is the correct name/interval descriptions for B♭ & C (the 8th & 9th tones)?










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Assuming the C° (half/whole) scale (C D♭ E♭ E G♭ G A B♭ C) comprises the intervals P1, m2, m3, d4, d5, d6, and m7, what is the correct name/interval descriptions for B♭ & C (the 8th & 9th tones)?







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  • Possible duplicate of Notating the diminished Scale

    – user45266
    1 hour ago











  • My sense is that this isn't an exact duplicate; I think OP is asking about intervals, not about notation.

    – Richard
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  • Possible duplicate of Notating the diminished Scale

    – user45266
    1 hour ago











  • My sense is that this isn't an exact duplicate; I think OP is asking about intervals, not about notation.

    – Richard
    1 hour ago
















Possible duplicate of Notating the diminished Scale

– user45266
1 hour ago





Possible duplicate of Notating the diminished Scale

– user45266
1 hour ago













My sense is that this isn't an exact duplicate; I think OP is asking about intervals, not about notation.

– Richard
1 hour ago





My sense is that this isn't an exact duplicate; I think OP is asking about intervals, not about notation.

– Richard
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I think you might be conflating intervals with scale degrees. Count intervals as notes above a pitch, not as members within a scale.



Your interval listing should be P1, m2, m3, M3, d5, P5, M6, m7, P8.1 Let's look at our first disagreement: for C to E, you have d4 and I have M3. C to E must be some type of third, because counting up from C we get (C–D–E = 1–2...) three. It doesn't matter what scale we're in; even though this E might be the fourth scale degree, it's still a third above C, and thus the interval will be understood as a (major) third.



As such, the B♭ and C up top will be a standard m7 and P8, even though they are scale-degrees 8 and 9 (or 1), respectively.



1And technically, your scale is better written as C–D♭–E♭–E–F♯–G–A–B♭–C. This is so that we have at least one of every note name, instead of having two types of E, two types of G, and no F (as you had). See also Notating the diminished Scale






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    I think you might be conflating intervals with scale degrees. Count intervals as notes above a pitch, not as members within a scale.



    Your interval listing should be P1, m2, m3, M3, d5, P5, M6, m7, P8.1 Let's look at our first disagreement: for C to E, you have d4 and I have M3. C to E must be some type of third, because counting up from C we get (C–D–E = 1–2...) three. It doesn't matter what scale we're in; even though this E might be the fourth scale degree, it's still a third above C, and thus the interval will be understood as a (major) third.



    As such, the B♭ and C up top will be a standard m7 and P8, even though they are scale-degrees 8 and 9 (or 1), respectively.



    1And technically, your scale is better written as C–D♭–E♭–E–F♯–G–A–B♭–C. This is so that we have at least one of every note name, instead of having two types of E, two types of G, and no F (as you had). See also Notating the diminished Scale






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      I think you might be conflating intervals with scale degrees. Count intervals as notes above a pitch, not as members within a scale.



      Your interval listing should be P1, m2, m3, M3, d5, P5, M6, m7, P8.1 Let's look at our first disagreement: for C to E, you have d4 and I have M3. C to E must be some type of third, because counting up from C we get (C–D–E = 1–2...) three. It doesn't matter what scale we're in; even though this E might be the fourth scale degree, it's still a third above C, and thus the interval will be understood as a (major) third.



      As such, the B♭ and C up top will be a standard m7 and P8, even though they are scale-degrees 8 and 9 (or 1), respectively.



      1And technically, your scale is better written as C–D♭–E♭–E–F♯–G–A–B♭–C. This is so that we have at least one of every note name, instead of having two types of E, two types of G, and no F (as you had). See also Notating the diminished Scale






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        I think you might be conflating intervals with scale degrees. Count intervals as notes above a pitch, not as members within a scale.



        Your interval listing should be P1, m2, m3, M3, d5, P5, M6, m7, P8.1 Let's look at our first disagreement: for C to E, you have d4 and I have M3. C to E must be some type of third, because counting up from C we get (C–D–E = 1–2...) three. It doesn't matter what scale we're in; even though this E might be the fourth scale degree, it's still a third above C, and thus the interval will be understood as a (major) third.



        As such, the B♭ and C up top will be a standard m7 and P8, even though they are scale-degrees 8 and 9 (or 1), respectively.



        1And technically, your scale is better written as C–D♭–E♭–E–F♯–G–A–B♭–C. This is so that we have at least one of every note name, instead of having two types of E, two types of G, and no F (as you had). See also Notating the diminished Scale






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        I think you might be conflating intervals with scale degrees. Count intervals as notes above a pitch, not as members within a scale.



        Your interval listing should be P1, m2, m3, M3, d5, P5, M6, m7, P8.1 Let's look at our first disagreement: for C to E, you have d4 and I have M3. C to E must be some type of third, because counting up from C we get (C–D–E = 1–2...) three. It doesn't matter what scale we're in; even though this E might be the fourth scale degree, it's still a third above C, and thus the interval will be understood as a (major) third.



        As such, the B♭ and C up top will be a standard m7 and P8, even though they are scale-degrees 8 and 9 (or 1), respectively.



        1And technically, your scale is better written as C–D♭–E♭–E–F♯–G–A–B♭–C. This is so that we have at least one of every note name, instead of having two types of E, two types of G, and no F (as you had). See also Notating the diminished Scale







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