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Deck of Many Things. What happens if you don't declare any number of cards and just start drawing?


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In the Dungeon Master's Guide the description for the Deck of Many Things contains the following.




Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




It doesn't say what happens if you don't declare anything and just start drawing.
So what happens?










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    In the Dungeon Master's Guide the description for the Deck of Many Things contains the following.




    Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




    It doesn't say what happens if you don't declare anything and just start drawing.
    So what happens?










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      In the Dungeon Master's Guide the description for the Deck of Many Things contains the following.




      Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




      It doesn't say what happens if you don't declare anything and just start drawing.
      So what happens?










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      In the Dungeon Master's Guide the description for the Deck of Many Things contains the following.




      Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




      It doesn't say what happens if you don't declare anything and just start drawing.
      So what happens?







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          You simply can't do that. I understand it may sound odd, but the text of the deck indicates you "must", so if you want to draw from it you have to declare how many cards you want to draw.



          I'd contend this question makes as much sense as asking "what happens if I act on someone else's initiative in combat?" You simply can't do that.



          You and your table might find that argument strange, though, and make a ruling to allow someone to draw from the deck without declaring a number of cards (e.g., if you draw without a declaration, it is presumed to be 1 so they trigger as you draw, or something else).






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            So what would happen if you found the deck and started to play cards with it. Would you find yourself unable to draw a card?
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            @NeutralVax They would know the deck was magic as the rules state: "Whatever a magic item's appearance, handling the item is enough to give a character a sense that something is extraordinary about it." And if they wanted to figure out how to use it (and its possible effects) they could spend a short rest observing it
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          As the deck notes.




          Any cards drawn in excess of this number have no effect




          If you don't name a number then the cards you draw will have no effect.



          The rules as you note also state.




          Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




          So, if you want to trigger the magical effect, you need to declare a number.



          Exactly what happens if you try to draw a card before you declare a number isn't stated. Maybe it doesn't work, stopped by powerful magic. Maybe nothing happens. It depends on the whims of the DM and the artifact.






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            If you don't name a number then what counts as "this number"?
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            Since the deck releases it's cards based off that number, presumably zero or it would automatically activate. >If you fail to draw the chosen number, the remaining number of cards fly from the deck on their own and take effect all at once.> If this number was anything but zero, then it would automatically activate.
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            This doesn't actually answer the question.
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          You simply can't do that. I understand it may sound odd, but the text of the deck indicates you "must", so if you want to draw from it you have to declare how many cards you want to draw.



          I'd contend this question makes as much sense as asking "what happens if I act on someone else's initiative in combat?" You simply can't do that.



          You and your table might find that argument strange, though, and make a ruling to allow someone to draw from the deck without declaring a number of cards (e.g., if you draw without a declaration, it is presumed to be 1 so they trigger as you draw, or something else).






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            So what would happen if you found the deck and started to play cards with it. Would you find yourself unable to draw a card?
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            @NeutralVax They would know the deck was magic as the rules state: "Whatever a magic item's appearance, handling the item is enough to give a character a sense that something is extraordinary about it." And if they wanted to figure out how to use it (and its possible effects) they could spend a short rest observing it
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          You simply can't do that. I understand it may sound odd, but the text of the deck indicates you "must", so if you want to draw from it you have to declare how many cards you want to draw.



          I'd contend this question makes as much sense as asking "what happens if I act on someone else's initiative in combat?" You simply can't do that.



          You and your table might find that argument strange, though, and make a ruling to allow someone to draw from the deck without declaring a number of cards (e.g., if you draw without a declaration, it is presumed to be 1 so they trigger as you draw, or something else).






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            So what would happen if you found the deck and started to play cards with it. Would you find yourself unable to draw a card?
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            @NeutralVax They would know the deck was magic as the rules state: "Whatever a magic item's appearance, handling the item is enough to give a character a sense that something is extraordinary about it." And if they wanted to figure out how to use it (and its possible effects) they could spend a short rest observing it
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          You simply can't do that. I understand it may sound odd, but the text of the deck indicates you "must", so if you want to draw from it you have to declare how many cards you want to draw.



          I'd contend this question makes as much sense as asking "what happens if I act on someone else's initiative in combat?" You simply can't do that.



          You and your table might find that argument strange, though, and make a ruling to allow someone to draw from the deck without declaring a number of cards (e.g., if you draw without a declaration, it is presumed to be 1 so they trigger as you draw, or something else).






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          You simply can't do that. I understand it may sound odd, but the text of the deck indicates you "must", so if you want to draw from it you have to declare how many cards you want to draw.



          I'd contend this question makes as much sense as asking "what happens if I act on someone else's initiative in combat?" You simply can't do that.



          You and your table might find that argument strange, though, and make a ruling to allow someone to draw from the deck without declaring a number of cards (e.g., if you draw without a declaration, it is presumed to be 1 so they trigger as you draw, or something else).







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            So what would happen if you found the deck and started to play cards with it. Would you find yourself unable to draw a card?
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            @NeutralVax They would know the deck was magic as the rules state: "Whatever a magic item's appearance, handling the item is enough to give a character a sense that something is extraordinary about it." And if they wanted to figure out how to use it (and its possible effects) they could spend a short rest observing it
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            So what would happen if you found the deck and started to play cards with it. Would you find yourself unable to draw a card?
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            – NeutralVax
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            @NeutralVax They would know the deck was magic as the rules state: "Whatever a magic item's appearance, handling the item is enough to give a character a sense that something is extraordinary about it." And if they wanted to figure out how to use it (and its possible effects) they could spend a short rest observing it
            $endgroup$
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          $begingroup$
          So what would happen if you found the deck and started to play cards with it. Would you find yourself unable to draw a card?
          $endgroup$
          – NeutralVax
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          So what would happen if you found the deck and started to play cards with it. Would you find yourself unable to draw a card?
          $endgroup$
          – NeutralVax
          4 hours ago












          $begingroup$
          @NeutralVax They would know the deck was magic as the rules state: "Whatever a magic item's appearance, handling the item is enough to give a character a sense that something is extraordinary about it." And if they wanted to figure out how to use it (and its possible effects) they could spend a short rest observing it
          $endgroup$
          – Medix2
          4 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          @NeutralVax They would know the deck was magic as the rules state: "Whatever a magic item's appearance, handling the item is enough to give a character a sense that something is extraordinary about it." And if they wanted to figure out how to use it (and its possible effects) they could spend a short rest observing it
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          As the deck notes.




          Any cards drawn in excess of this number have no effect




          If you don't name a number then the cards you draw will have no effect.



          The rules as you note also state.




          Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




          So, if you want to trigger the magical effect, you need to declare a number.



          Exactly what happens if you try to draw a card before you declare a number isn't stated. Maybe it doesn't work, stopped by powerful magic. Maybe nothing happens. It depends on the whims of the DM and the artifact.






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            If you don't name a number then what counts as "this number"?
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            – Medix2
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            Since the deck releases it's cards based off that number, presumably zero or it would automatically activate. >If you fail to draw the chosen number, the remaining number of cards fly from the deck on their own and take effect all at once.> If this number was anything but zero, then it would automatically activate.
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            This doesn't actually answer the question.
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            I edited in some more to clarify.
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          As the deck notes.




          Any cards drawn in excess of this number have no effect




          If you don't name a number then the cards you draw will have no effect.



          The rules as you note also state.




          Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




          So, if you want to trigger the magical effect, you need to declare a number.



          Exactly what happens if you try to draw a card before you declare a number isn't stated. Maybe it doesn't work, stopped by powerful magic. Maybe nothing happens. It depends on the whims of the DM and the artifact.






          share|improve this answer











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          • $begingroup$
            If you don't name a number then what counts as "this number"?
            $endgroup$
            – Medix2
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          • $begingroup$
            Since the deck releases it's cards based off that number, presumably zero or it would automatically activate. >If you fail to draw the chosen number, the remaining number of cards fly from the deck on their own and take effect all at once.> If this number was anything but zero, then it would automatically activate.
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            This doesn't actually answer the question.
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            I edited in some more to clarify.
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          As the deck notes.




          Any cards drawn in excess of this number have no effect




          If you don't name a number then the cards you draw will have no effect.



          The rules as you note also state.




          Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




          So, if you want to trigger the magical effect, you need to declare a number.



          Exactly what happens if you try to draw a card before you declare a number isn't stated. Maybe it doesn't work, stopped by powerful magic. Maybe nothing happens. It depends on the whims of the DM and the artifact.






          share|improve this answer











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          As the deck notes.




          Any cards drawn in excess of this number have no effect




          If you don't name a number then the cards you draw will have no effect.



          The rules as you note also state.




          Before you draw a card, you must declare how many cards you intend to draw and then draw them randomly.




          So, if you want to trigger the magical effect, you need to declare a number.



          Exactly what happens if you try to draw a card before you declare a number isn't stated. Maybe it doesn't work, stopped by powerful magic. Maybe nothing happens. It depends on the whims of the DM and the artifact.







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            If you don't name a number then what counts as "this number"?
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          • $begingroup$
            Since the deck releases it's cards based off that number, presumably zero or it would automatically activate. >If you fail to draw the chosen number, the remaining number of cards fly from the deck on their own and take effect all at once.> If this number was anything but zero, then it would automatically activate.
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            This doesn't actually answer the question.
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            I edited in some more to clarify.
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          • $begingroup$
            If you don't name a number then what counts as "this number"?
            $endgroup$
            – Medix2
            8 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            Since the deck releases it's cards based off that number, presumably zero or it would automatically activate. >If you fail to draw the chosen number, the remaining number of cards fly from the deck on their own and take effect all at once.> If this number was anything but zero, then it would automatically activate.
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          • $begingroup$
            This doesn't actually answer the question.
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          • $begingroup$
            I edited in some more to clarify.
            $endgroup$
            – Nepene Nep
            6 hours ago















          $begingroup$
          If you don't name a number then what counts as "this number"?
          $endgroup$
          – Medix2
          8 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          If you don't name a number then what counts as "this number"?
          $endgroup$
          – Medix2
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          $begingroup$
          Since the deck releases it's cards based off that number, presumably zero or it would automatically activate. >If you fail to draw the chosen number, the remaining number of cards fly from the deck on their own and take effect all at once.> If this number was anything but zero, then it would automatically activate.
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          $begingroup$
          Since the deck releases it's cards based off that number, presumably zero or it would automatically activate. >If you fail to draw the chosen number, the remaining number of cards fly from the deck on their own and take effect all at once.> If this number was anything but zero, then it would automatically activate.
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