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How can religions be structured in ways that allow inter-faith councils to work?
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The people of this world worship what is called "The faith of the seven". These gods represent different aspects of creation. They are:
- Khorne: god of war
- Tzenteech: god of change/ambition
- Nurgle: god of life/fertility
- Slaneesh: god of pleasure
- Nagash: god of death
- Sigmar: god of order
- The Star Child: god of machinery
These seven gods are ruled over by a higher god that doesn't interact with creation. He created the seven to interact with humans and govern the human world in his stead. Each nation worships this faith differently. Some worship each god equally, while others worship one above all others as more relevant, but pay homage to their existence in some way.
A large council made up of Representatives from all faiths keeps the peace between nations, irrespective of how they worship this religion. As a result, there have been no major wars between countries that attempt to slaughter unbelievers and convert survivors to their version. This council have locations in every nation which are interconnected through a system of portals. These provide instantaneous travel between locations that only members of this council can use.
In our world, the Abraham religions have had a complicated history with each other, despite them originating from the same god. Even sects within the same faiths have had conflict over minor details or interpretations, accusing each other of heresy and whatnot.
What would religions need to allow for interfaith councils like this to be successful?
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The people of this world worship what is called "The faith of the seven". These gods represent different aspects of creation. They are:
- Khorne: god of war
- Tzenteech: god of change/ambition
- Nurgle: god of life/fertility
- Slaneesh: god of pleasure
- Nagash: god of death
- Sigmar: god of order
- The Star Child: god of machinery
These seven gods are ruled over by a higher god that doesn't interact with creation. He created the seven to interact with humans and govern the human world in his stead. Each nation worships this faith differently. Some worship each god equally, while others worship one above all others as more relevant, but pay homage to their existence in some way.
A large council made up of Representatives from all faiths keeps the peace between nations, irrespective of how they worship this religion. As a result, there have been no major wars between countries that attempt to slaughter unbelievers and convert survivors to their version. This council have locations in every nation which are interconnected through a system of portals. These provide instantaneous travel between locations that only members of this council can use.
In our world, the Abraham religions have had a complicated history with each other, despite them originating from the same god. Even sects within the same faiths have had conflict over minor details or interpretations, accusing each other of heresy and whatnot.
What would religions need to allow for interfaith councils like this to be successful?
society religion
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How does this council work ? Voting mechanism is what ? Is there a casting vote system if there's a tie ? Is there a veto system ? You might compare this with the UN Security Council to see just how easy it is to neuter such a system, as the key members have all done from time to time.
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If you are trying to avoid conflict between the nations, remove Khorne from the pantheon. Replace him with a god of self-sacrifice to offset Slaneesh's hedonistic teachings. You might also want to make the Star Child an offspring of Tzenteech and Sigmar, uniting those two initially opposing deities to demonstrate the value of cooperation. Nurgle and Nagash could be twins or married, always portrayed together. If you want to build a unified panteon, start with apparent opposites and then bring them together through their mythology.
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This isn't interfaith. As o.m. points out in an answer, you're talking about one religion with multiple Gods. Think Hinduism, where many deities are quite regional and not worshipped outside small(ish) areas, but are still part of the whole.
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The people of this world worship what is called "The faith of the seven". These gods represent different aspects of creation. They are:
- Khorne: god of war
- Tzenteech: god of change/ambition
- Nurgle: god of life/fertility
- Slaneesh: god of pleasure
- Nagash: god of death
- Sigmar: god of order
- The Star Child: god of machinery
These seven gods are ruled over by a higher god that doesn't interact with creation. He created the seven to interact with humans and govern the human world in his stead. Each nation worships this faith differently. Some worship each god equally, while others worship one above all others as more relevant, but pay homage to their existence in some way.
A large council made up of Representatives from all faiths keeps the peace between nations, irrespective of how they worship this religion. As a result, there have been no major wars between countries that attempt to slaughter unbelievers and convert survivors to their version. This council have locations in every nation which are interconnected through a system of portals. These provide instantaneous travel between locations that only members of this council can use.
In our world, the Abraham religions have had a complicated history with each other, despite them originating from the same god. Even sects within the same faiths have had conflict over minor details or interpretations, accusing each other of heresy and whatnot.
What would religions need to allow for interfaith councils like this to be successful?
society religion
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The people of this world worship what is called "The faith of the seven". These gods represent different aspects of creation. They are:
- Khorne: god of war
- Tzenteech: god of change/ambition
- Nurgle: god of life/fertility
- Slaneesh: god of pleasure
- Nagash: god of death
- Sigmar: god of order
- The Star Child: god of machinery
These seven gods are ruled over by a higher god that doesn't interact with creation. He created the seven to interact with humans and govern the human world in his stead. Each nation worships this faith differently. Some worship each god equally, while others worship one above all others as more relevant, but pay homage to their existence in some way.
A large council made up of Representatives from all faiths keeps the peace between nations, irrespective of how they worship this religion. As a result, there have been no major wars between countries that attempt to slaughter unbelievers and convert survivors to their version. This council have locations in every nation which are interconnected through a system of portals. These provide instantaneous travel between locations that only members of this council can use.
In our world, the Abraham religions have had a complicated history with each other, despite them originating from the same god. Even sects within the same faiths have had conflict over minor details or interpretations, accusing each other of heresy and whatnot.
What would religions need to allow for interfaith councils like this to be successful?
society religion
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How does this council work ? Voting mechanism is what ? Is there a casting vote system if there's a tie ? Is there a veto system ? You might compare this with the UN Security Council to see just how easy it is to neuter such a system, as the key members have all done from time to time.
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If you are trying to avoid conflict between the nations, remove Khorne from the pantheon. Replace him with a god of self-sacrifice to offset Slaneesh's hedonistic teachings. You might also want to make the Star Child an offspring of Tzenteech and Sigmar, uniting those two initially opposing deities to demonstrate the value of cooperation. Nurgle and Nagash could be twins or married, always portrayed together. If you want to build a unified panteon, start with apparent opposites and then bring them together through their mythology.
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– Henry Taylor
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This isn't interfaith. As o.m. points out in an answer, you're talking about one religion with multiple Gods. Think Hinduism, where many deities are quite regional and not worshipped outside small(ish) areas, but are still part of the whole.
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How does this council work ? Voting mechanism is what ? Is there a casting vote system if there's a tie ? Is there a veto system ? You might compare this with the UN Security Council to see just how easy it is to neuter such a system, as the key members have all done from time to time.
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– StephenG
7 hours ago
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If you are trying to avoid conflict between the nations, remove Khorne from the pantheon. Replace him with a god of self-sacrifice to offset Slaneesh's hedonistic teachings. You might also want to make the Star Child an offspring of Tzenteech and Sigmar, uniting those two initially opposing deities to demonstrate the value of cooperation. Nurgle and Nagash could be twins or married, always portrayed together. If you want to build a unified panteon, start with apparent opposites and then bring them together through their mythology.
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– Henry Taylor
7 hours ago
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This isn't interfaith. As o.m. points out in an answer, you're talking about one religion with multiple Gods. Think Hinduism, where many deities are quite regional and not worshipped outside small(ish) areas, but are still part of the whole.
$endgroup$
– Cyn
6 hours ago
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How does this council work ? Voting mechanism is what ? Is there a casting vote system if there's a tie ? Is there a veto system ? You might compare this with the UN Security Council to see just how easy it is to neuter such a system, as the key members have all done from time to time.
$endgroup$
– StephenG
7 hours ago
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How does this council work ? Voting mechanism is what ? Is there a casting vote system if there's a tie ? Is there a veto system ? You might compare this with the UN Security Council to see just how easy it is to neuter such a system, as the key members have all done from time to time.
$endgroup$
– StephenG
7 hours ago
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If you are trying to avoid conflict between the nations, remove Khorne from the pantheon. Replace him with a god of self-sacrifice to offset Slaneesh's hedonistic teachings. You might also want to make the Star Child an offspring of Tzenteech and Sigmar, uniting those two initially opposing deities to demonstrate the value of cooperation. Nurgle and Nagash could be twins or married, always portrayed together. If you want to build a unified panteon, start with apparent opposites and then bring them together through their mythology.
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– Henry Taylor
7 hours ago
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If you are trying to avoid conflict between the nations, remove Khorne from the pantheon. Replace him with a god of self-sacrifice to offset Slaneesh's hedonistic teachings. You might also want to make the Star Child an offspring of Tzenteech and Sigmar, uniting those two initially opposing deities to demonstrate the value of cooperation. Nurgle and Nagash could be twins or married, always portrayed together. If you want to build a unified panteon, start with apparent opposites and then bring them together through their mythology.
$endgroup$
– Henry Taylor
7 hours ago
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This isn't interfaith. As o.m. points out in an answer, you're talking about one religion with multiple Gods. Think Hinduism, where many deities are quite regional and not worshipped outside small(ish) areas, but are still part of the whole.
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– Cyn
6 hours ago
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This isn't interfaith. As o.m. points out in an answer, you're talking about one religion with multiple Gods. Think Hinduism, where many deities are quite regional and not worshipped outside small(ish) areas, but are still part of the whole.
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What you describe are not different religions, they are different cults within one pantheistic religion.
- Have all cults within the religion acknowledge the existence and necessity of the entire pantheon. Individuals can still decide to worship Khorne or Nagash, or even try to make their cult more prominent in society, but attacking other cults would be disrespect to a "relative of the boss." Bad idea ...
- Make representatives of all cults necessary for the most holy rites of each individual cult. On this day, we have come together to honor Nurgle, for death requires life and life requires death ...
The reason why it didn't work out that way in the real world is that the three big monotheistic religions are all different interpretations of the same God. Judaism is v1.0, Christianity is v2.0, Islam is v3.0. Christianity has a problem acknowledging Islam as "also valid" because they would have to explain why they didn't get the upgrade, so to speak. Talking your way around that contradiction requires some clever thinkers, which may not be there when some fanatics try to talk a village into a pogrom.
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Your council has portal technology and a desire for peace among all nations.
Unlike the religions of the real world, this is a united clergy with a technological advantage over their followers. With such an advantage, such a council's rule would be absolute for as long as it managed or obscured its inner power struggles from the outside world.
If the portal technological is interpreted as proof of divine intervention, then no other faith will be allowed to flourish without first providing a similarly irrefutable proof. To this end, keeping the portal technology guarded at the council locations will be critical.
Equally important is the presentation of a united front among council members. People will assume that the gods live peacefully with each other as long as the representatives of those gods live peacefully together. To this end, I would suggest that you give the council members an additional technological advantage. Have each of them implanted with a brain-to-brain interface linked by a radio technology based in the same advanced physics as the portals.
In this way, any council member can be in council with the rest of the council whenever they are in public. If a would-be radical tries to stir up a crowd based on the superiority of one of the gods over the others, a single council member, armed with the wisdom of the entire council can shut him down with peaceful words which simultaneously disprove his assertions while respecting and reinforcing the unifying image of a united pantheon of gods.
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Don't Let the Gods Become Too Personal
This was one of Augustine's complaints, growing up in the Roman pantheism, in 'City of God'. While Roman faith had it's mysteries, festivals, and plays, in Augustine's opinion, they were more oriented towards entertainment and education than disciplining adherents in a philosophy. As an argument to prove his point, Augustine pointed out how often Zeus played to role of villain in plays made in his honor, performed in his own temple.
While certain cults (the Vestals come to mind) had special relationships with the gods, and expectations on both side, the general public did not.
In contrast: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have a special relationship between the believer and the god. In Judaism, every circumcised member of the race has been set apart as god's special people - with special rights, privileges, and responsibilities. Christians have a similar, but different special relationship. And Islam another. All three also try to proscribe a complete internally consistent moral philosophy that should provide for all your needs (which is not limited to just these three faiths).
Hopefully the difference is obvious. While violating the sacred spaces of the Vestals might cause some outrage and bloodshed (because they are a special case), or more generally it might be fun to pick on minority religions (Hypatia of Alexandria) or just blame those minority religions for the unsettled nature of the world (Corinthians and early Christians), this level of faith is still not as visceral as sincerely believing your father/mother/wife/husband/son/daughter can have the eternal good life, and some practitioner of some other faith is leading him/her astray.
If you can keep your faith entertaining, educational, fun, but not something as personal (or only as personal in a small number of cases; still not something everyone experiences) - I think it would work.
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What you describe are not different religions, they are different cults within one pantheistic religion.
- Have all cults within the religion acknowledge the existence and necessity of the entire pantheon. Individuals can still decide to worship Khorne or Nagash, or even try to make their cult more prominent in society, but attacking other cults would be disrespect to a "relative of the boss." Bad idea ...
- Make representatives of all cults necessary for the most holy rites of each individual cult. On this day, we have come together to honor Nurgle, for death requires life and life requires death ...
The reason why it didn't work out that way in the real world is that the three big monotheistic religions are all different interpretations of the same God. Judaism is v1.0, Christianity is v2.0, Islam is v3.0. Christianity has a problem acknowledging Islam as "also valid" because they would have to explain why they didn't get the upgrade, so to speak. Talking your way around that contradiction requires some clever thinkers, which may not be there when some fanatics try to talk a village into a pogrom.
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What you describe are not different religions, they are different cults within one pantheistic religion.
- Have all cults within the religion acknowledge the existence and necessity of the entire pantheon. Individuals can still decide to worship Khorne or Nagash, or even try to make their cult more prominent in society, but attacking other cults would be disrespect to a "relative of the boss." Bad idea ...
- Make representatives of all cults necessary for the most holy rites of each individual cult. On this day, we have come together to honor Nurgle, for death requires life and life requires death ...
The reason why it didn't work out that way in the real world is that the three big monotheistic religions are all different interpretations of the same God. Judaism is v1.0, Christianity is v2.0, Islam is v3.0. Christianity has a problem acknowledging Islam as "also valid" because they would have to explain why they didn't get the upgrade, so to speak. Talking your way around that contradiction requires some clever thinkers, which may not be there when some fanatics try to talk a village into a pogrom.
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What you describe are not different religions, they are different cults within one pantheistic religion.
- Have all cults within the religion acknowledge the existence and necessity of the entire pantheon. Individuals can still decide to worship Khorne or Nagash, or even try to make their cult more prominent in society, but attacking other cults would be disrespect to a "relative of the boss." Bad idea ...
- Make representatives of all cults necessary for the most holy rites of each individual cult. On this day, we have come together to honor Nurgle, for death requires life and life requires death ...
The reason why it didn't work out that way in the real world is that the three big monotheistic religions are all different interpretations of the same God. Judaism is v1.0, Christianity is v2.0, Islam is v3.0. Christianity has a problem acknowledging Islam as "also valid" because they would have to explain why they didn't get the upgrade, so to speak. Talking your way around that contradiction requires some clever thinkers, which may not be there when some fanatics try to talk a village into a pogrom.
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What you describe are not different religions, they are different cults within one pantheistic religion.
- Have all cults within the religion acknowledge the existence and necessity of the entire pantheon. Individuals can still decide to worship Khorne or Nagash, or even try to make their cult more prominent in society, but attacking other cults would be disrespect to a "relative of the boss." Bad idea ...
- Make representatives of all cults necessary for the most holy rites of each individual cult. On this day, we have come together to honor Nurgle, for death requires life and life requires death ...
The reason why it didn't work out that way in the real world is that the three big monotheistic religions are all different interpretations of the same God. Judaism is v1.0, Christianity is v2.0, Islam is v3.0. Christianity has a problem acknowledging Islam as "also valid" because they would have to explain why they didn't get the upgrade, so to speak. Talking your way around that contradiction requires some clever thinkers, which may not be there when some fanatics try to talk a village into a pogrom.
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Your council has portal technology and a desire for peace among all nations.
Unlike the religions of the real world, this is a united clergy with a technological advantage over their followers. With such an advantage, such a council's rule would be absolute for as long as it managed or obscured its inner power struggles from the outside world.
If the portal technological is interpreted as proof of divine intervention, then no other faith will be allowed to flourish without first providing a similarly irrefutable proof. To this end, keeping the portal technology guarded at the council locations will be critical.
Equally important is the presentation of a united front among council members. People will assume that the gods live peacefully with each other as long as the representatives of those gods live peacefully together. To this end, I would suggest that you give the council members an additional technological advantage. Have each of them implanted with a brain-to-brain interface linked by a radio technology based in the same advanced physics as the portals.
In this way, any council member can be in council with the rest of the council whenever they are in public. If a would-be radical tries to stir up a crowd based on the superiority of one of the gods over the others, a single council member, armed with the wisdom of the entire council can shut him down with peaceful words which simultaneously disprove his assertions while respecting and reinforcing the unifying image of a united pantheon of gods.
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Your council has portal technology and a desire for peace among all nations.
Unlike the religions of the real world, this is a united clergy with a technological advantage over their followers. With such an advantage, such a council's rule would be absolute for as long as it managed or obscured its inner power struggles from the outside world.
If the portal technological is interpreted as proof of divine intervention, then no other faith will be allowed to flourish without first providing a similarly irrefutable proof. To this end, keeping the portal technology guarded at the council locations will be critical.
Equally important is the presentation of a united front among council members. People will assume that the gods live peacefully with each other as long as the representatives of those gods live peacefully together. To this end, I would suggest that you give the council members an additional technological advantage. Have each of them implanted with a brain-to-brain interface linked by a radio technology based in the same advanced physics as the portals.
In this way, any council member can be in council with the rest of the council whenever they are in public. If a would-be radical tries to stir up a crowd based on the superiority of one of the gods over the others, a single council member, armed with the wisdom of the entire council can shut him down with peaceful words which simultaneously disprove his assertions while respecting and reinforcing the unifying image of a united pantheon of gods.
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Your council has portal technology and a desire for peace among all nations.
Unlike the religions of the real world, this is a united clergy with a technological advantage over their followers. With such an advantage, such a council's rule would be absolute for as long as it managed or obscured its inner power struggles from the outside world.
If the portal technological is interpreted as proof of divine intervention, then no other faith will be allowed to flourish without first providing a similarly irrefutable proof. To this end, keeping the portal technology guarded at the council locations will be critical.
Equally important is the presentation of a united front among council members. People will assume that the gods live peacefully with each other as long as the representatives of those gods live peacefully together. To this end, I would suggest that you give the council members an additional technological advantage. Have each of them implanted with a brain-to-brain interface linked by a radio technology based in the same advanced physics as the portals.
In this way, any council member can be in council with the rest of the council whenever they are in public. If a would-be radical tries to stir up a crowd based on the superiority of one of the gods over the others, a single council member, armed with the wisdom of the entire council can shut him down with peaceful words which simultaneously disprove his assertions while respecting and reinforcing the unifying image of a united pantheon of gods.
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Your council has portal technology and a desire for peace among all nations.
Unlike the religions of the real world, this is a united clergy with a technological advantage over their followers. With such an advantage, such a council's rule would be absolute for as long as it managed or obscured its inner power struggles from the outside world.
If the portal technological is interpreted as proof of divine intervention, then no other faith will be allowed to flourish without first providing a similarly irrefutable proof. To this end, keeping the portal technology guarded at the council locations will be critical.
Equally important is the presentation of a united front among council members. People will assume that the gods live peacefully with each other as long as the representatives of those gods live peacefully together. To this end, I would suggest that you give the council members an additional technological advantage. Have each of them implanted with a brain-to-brain interface linked by a radio technology based in the same advanced physics as the portals.
In this way, any council member can be in council with the rest of the council whenever they are in public. If a would-be radical tries to stir up a crowd based on the superiority of one of the gods over the others, a single council member, armed with the wisdom of the entire council can shut him down with peaceful words which simultaneously disprove his assertions while respecting and reinforcing the unifying image of a united pantheon of gods.
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Don't Let the Gods Become Too Personal
This was one of Augustine's complaints, growing up in the Roman pantheism, in 'City of God'. While Roman faith had it's mysteries, festivals, and plays, in Augustine's opinion, they were more oriented towards entertainment and education than disciplining adherents in a philosophy. As an argument to prove his point, Augustine pointed out how often Zeus played to role of villain in plays made in his honor, performed in his own temple.
While certain cults (the Vestals come to mind) had special relationships with the gods, and expectations on both side, the general public did not.
In contrast: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have a special relationship between the believer and the god. In Judaism, every circumcised member of the race has been set apart as god's special people - with special rights, privileges, and responsibilities. Christians have a similar, but different special relationship. And Islam another. All three also try to proscribe a complete internally consistent moral philosophy that should provide for all your needs (which is not limited to just these three faiths).
Hopefully the difference is obvious. While violating the sacred spaces of the Vestals might cause some outrage and bloodshed (because they are a special case), or more generally it might be fun to pick on minority religions (Hypatia of Alexandria) or just blame those minority religions for the unsettled nature of the world (Corinthians and early Christians), this level of faith is still not as visceral as sincerely believing your father/mother/wife/husband/son/daughter can have the eternal good life, and some practitioner of some other faith is leading him/her astray.
If you can keep your faith entertaining, educational, fun, but not something as personal (or only as personal in a small number of cases; still not something everyone experiences) - I think it would work.
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Don't Let the Gods Become Too Personal
This was one of Augustine's complaints, growing up in the Roman pantheism, in 'City of God'. While Roman faith had it's mysteries, festivals, and plays, in Augustine's opinion, they were more oriented towards entertainment and education than disciplining adherents in a philosophy. As an argument to prove his point, Augustine pointed out how often Zeus played to role of villain in plays made in his honor, performed in his own temple.
While certain cults (the Vestals come to mind) had special relationships with the gods, and expectations on both side, the general public did not.
In contrast: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have a special relationship between the believer and the god. In Judaism, every circumcised member of the race has been set apart as god's special people - with special rights, privileges, and responsibilities. Christians have a similar, but different special relationship. And Islam another. All three also try to proscribe a complete internally consistent moral philosophy that should provide for all your needs (which is not limited to just these three faiths).
Hopefully the difference is obvious. While violating the sacred spaces of the Vestals might cause some outrage and bloodshed (because they are a special case), or more generally it might be fun to pick on minority religions (Hypatia of Alexandria) or just blame those minority religions for the unsettled nature of the world (Corinthians and early Christians), this level of faith is still not as visceral as sincerely believing your father/mother/wife/husband/son/daughter can have the eternal good life, and some practitioner of some other faith is leading him/her astray.
If you can keep your faith entertaining, educational, fun, but not something as personal (or only as personal in a small number of cases; still not something everyone experiences) - I think it would work.
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Don't Let the Gods Become Too Personal
This was one of Augustine's complaints, growing up in the Roman pantheism, in 'City of God'. While Roman faith had it's mysteries, festivals, and plays, in Augustine's opinion, they were more oriented towards entertainment and education than disciplining adherents in a philosophy. As an argument to prove his point, Augustine pointed out how often Zeus played to role of villain in plays made in his honor, performed in his own temple.
While certain cults (the Vestals come to mind) had special relationships with the gods, and expectations on both side, the general public did not.
In contrast: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have a special relationship between the believer and the god. In Judaism, every circumcised member of the race has been set apart as god's special people - with special rights, privileges, and responsibilities. Christians have a similar, but different special relationship. And Islam another. All three also try to proscribe a complete internally consistent moral philosophy that should provide for all your needs (which is not limited to just these three faiths).
Hopefully the difference is obvious. While violating the sacred spaces of the Vestals might cause some outrage and bloodshed (because they are a special case), or more generally it might be fun to pick on minority religions (Hypatia of Alexandria) or just blame those minority religions for the unsettled nature of the world (Corinthians and early Christians), this level of faith is still not as visceral as sincerely believing your father/mother/wife/husband/son/daughter can have the eternal good life, and some practitioner of some other faith is leading him/her astray.
If you can keep your faith entertaining, educational, fun, but not something as personal (or only as personal in a small number of cases; still not something everyone experiences) - I think it would work.
answered 54 mins ago
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Don't Let the Gods Become Too Personal
This was one of Augustine's complaints, growing up in the Roman pantheism, in 'City of God'. While Roman faith had it's mysteries, festivals, and plays, in Augustine's opinion, they were more oriented towards entertainment and education than disciplining adherents in a philosophy. As an argument to prove his point, Augustine pointed out how often Zeus played to role of villain in plays made in his honor, performed in his own temple.
While certain cults (the Vestals come to mind) had special relationships with the gods, and expectations on both side, the general public did not.
In contrast: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have a special relationship between the believer and the god. In Judaism, every circumcised member of the race has been set apart as god's special people - with special rights, privileges, and responsibilities. Christians have a similar, but different special relationship. And Islam another. All three also try to proscribe a complete internally consistent moral philosophy that should provide for all your needs (which is not limited to just these three faiths).
Hopefully the difference is obvious. While violating the sacred spaces of the Vestals might cause some outrage and bloodshed (because they are a special case), or more generally it might be fun to pick on minority religions (Hypatia of Alexandria) or just blame those minority religions for the unsettled nature of the world (Corinthians and early Christians), this level of faith is still not as visceral as sincerely believing your father/mother/wife/husband/son/daughter can have the eternal good life, and some practitioner of some other faith is leading him/her astray.
If you can keep your faith entertaining, educational, fun, but not something as personal (or only as personal in a small number of cases; still not something everyone experiences) - I think it would work.
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How does this council work ? Voting mechanism is what ? Is there a casting vote system if there's a tie ? Is there a veto system ? You might compare this with the UN Security Council to see just how easy it is to neuter such a system, as the key members have all done from time to time.
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– StephenG
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If you are trying to avoid conflict between the nations, remove Khorne from the pantheon. Replace him with a god of self-sacrifice to offset Slaneesh's hedonistic teachings. You might also want to make the Star Child an offspring of Tzenteech and Sigmar, uniting those two initially opposing deities to demonstrate the value of cooperation. Nurgle and Nagash could be twins or married, always portrayed together. If you want to build a unified panteon, start with apparent opposites and then bring them together through their mythology.
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– Henry Taylor
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This isn't interfaith. As o.m. points out in an answer, you're talking about one religion with multiple Gods. Think Hinduism, where many deities are quite regional and not worshipped outside small(ish) areas, but are still part of the whole.
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– Cyn
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