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Generalized Behrend version for Grothendieck-Lefschetz trace formula


What are the automorphism groups of (principally polarized) abelian varieties?Behaviour of euler characteristics in characteristic p for finite etale coversIs there a Grothendieck-Riemann-Roch type of theorem generalizing Grothendieck's Lefschetz trace formula Further Questions Regarding Cohomolgoy Theory Of SheavesBase change for quotient stackRationality of zeta function and Grothendieck-Lefschetz fixed point formula, cohomology can be computed as the de Rham cohomologyWhat is the need for torsion in the definition of lisse sheaves?Universal homeomorphism of stacks and etale sitesmoduli stack of double covers of $mathbbP^1$ with one marked pointHigher dimensional generalization of an identity between traces of Hecke operators and number of elliptic curves over finite fields?













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The statement of the Grothendieck-Lefschetz fixed point theorem is well-known. For a proper algebraic variety $X$ over $mathbb F_q$,
$$#X(mathbb F_q) =sum_i (−1)^i Tr(Fr_X, H^i_c(X, mathbb Q_l)).$$
Also known is the version for general constructible l-adic sheaves $mathcal F$:
$$sum_xin X(mathbb F_q) Tr(Fr_x,mathcal F_x)=sum_i (−1)^i Tr(Fr_X, H^i_c(X, mathcal F)).$$
Thirdly, K. Behrend proved an analog for the first formula in the context of algebraic stacks (replacing the scheme $X$ by a Noetherian algebraic stack $mathcal X$).




Now my question is: is there a version of the second formula for an
algebraic stack $mathcal X$ (with nice hypotheses if necessary)?




It would seem natural, since the second formula is a generalization of the first, and the first is true in the context of algebraic stacks by Behrend's work. However, the second formula does not follow directly from the first in the case of schemes (as far as I know: I would be glad if it were true!), so I am not in the position to easily extend the proof of the second formula in the more general context of stacks.



Thank you in advance.










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The statement of the Grothendieck-Lefschetz fixed point theorem is well-known. For a proper algebraic variety $X$ over $mathbb F_q$,
$$#X(mathbb F_q) =sum_i (−1)^i Tr(Fr_X, H^i_c(X, mathbb Q_l)).$$
Also known is the version for general constructible l-adic sheaves $mathcal F$:
$$sum_xin X(mathbb F_q) Tr(Fr_x,mathcal F_x)=sum_i (−1)^i Tr(Fr_X, H^i_c(X, mathcal F)).$$
Thirdly, K. Behrend proved an analog for the first formula in the context of algebraic stacks (replacing the scheme $X$ by a Noetherian algebraic stack $mathcal X$).




Now my question is: is there a version of the second formula for an
algebraic stack $mathcal X$ (with nice hypotheses if necessary)?




It would seem natural, since the second formula is a generalization of the first, and the first is true in the context of algebraic stacks by Behrend's work. However, the second formula does not follow directly from the first in the case of schemes (as far as I know: I would be glad if it were true!), so I am not in the position to easily extend the proof of the second formula in the more general context of stacks.



Thank you in advance.










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    The case of general constructible coefficients is not in Behrend's original 1993 paper as you say. But it's in his 2003 book "Derived $ell$-adic categories for algebraic stacks". (Also, you don't need $X$ proper in your formula.)
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The statement of the Grothendieck-Lefschetz fixed point theorem is well-known. For a proper algebraic variety $X$ over $mathbb F_q$,
$$#X(mathbb F_q) =sum_i (−1)^i Tr(Fr_X, H^i_c(X, mathbb Q_l)).$$
Also known is the version for general constructible l-adic sheaves $mathcal F$:
$$sum_xin X(mathbb F_q) Tr(Fr_x,mathcal F_x)=sum_i (−1)^i Tr(Fr_X, H^i_c(X, mathcal F)).$$
Thirdly, K. Behrend proved an analog for the first formula in the context of algebraic stacks (replacing the scheme $X$ by a Noetherian algebraic stack $mathcal X$).




Now my question is: is there a version of the second formula for an
algebraic stack $mathcal X$ (with nice hypotheses if necessary)?




It would seem natural, since the second formula is a generalization of the first, and the first is true in the context of algebraic stacks by Behrend's work. However, the second formula does not follow directly from the first in the case of schemes (as far as I know: I would be glad if it were true!), so I am not in the position to easily extend the proof of the second formula in the more general context of stacks.



Thank you in advance.










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The statement of the Grothendieck-Lefschetz fixed point theorem is well-known. For a proper algebraic variety $X$ over $mathbb F_q$,
$$#X(mathbb F_q) =sum_i (−1)^i Tr(Fr_X, H^i_c(X, mathbb Q_l)).$$
Also known is the version for general constructible l-adic sheaves $mathcal F$:
$$sum_xin X(mathbb F_q) Tr(Fr_x,mathcal F_x)=sum_i (−1)^i Tr(Fr_X, H^i_c(X, mathcal F)).$$
Thirdly, K. Behrend proved an analog for the first formula in the context of algebraic stacks (replacing the scheme $X$ by a Noetherian algebraic stack $mathcal X$).




Now my question is: is there a version of the second formula for an
algebraic stack $mathcal X$ (with nice hypotheses if necessary)?




It would seem natural, since the second formula is a generalization of the first, and the first is true in the context of algebraic stacks by Behrend's work. However, the second formula does not follow directly from the first in the case of schemes (as far as I know: I would be glad if it were true!), so I am not in the position to easily extend the proof of the second formula in the more general context of stacks.



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    The case of general constructible coefficients is not in Behrend's original 1993 paper as you say. But it's in his 2003 book "Derived $ell$-adic categories for algebraic stacks". (Also, you don't need $X$ proper in your formula.)
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    The case of general constructible coefficients is not in Behrend's original 1993 paper as you say. But it's in his 2003 book "Derived $ell$-adic categories for algebraic stacks". (Also, you don't need $X$ proper in your formula.)
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This is Theorem 4.2 of Shenghao Sun's paper L-Series of Artin stacks over finite fields (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1008.3689.pdf).




Let $f:mathscr X_0tomathscr Y_0$ be a morphism of $mathbb F_q$-algebraic stacks, and let $K_0in W^-,stra_m(mathscr X_0,overlinemathbb Q_ell)$ be a convergent complex of sheaves.
Then



(i) (Finiteness) $f_!K_0$ is a convergent complex of sheaves on
$mathscr Y_0,$ and



(ii) (Trace formula) $c_v(mathscr X_0,K_0)=c_v(mathscr Y_0,f_!K_0)$
for every integer $vge1.$




Here $c_v$ is the sum of the trace of the $v$th power of Frobenius. Applying this in the case where $mathscr Y_0$ is a point gets you what you want.






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    This is Theorem 4.2 of Shenghao Sun's paper L-Series of Artin stacks over finite fields (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1008.3689.pdf).




    Let $f:mathscr X_0tomathscr Y_0$ be a morphism of $mathbb F_q$-algebraic stacks, and let $K_0in W^-,stra_m(mathscr X_0,overlinemathbb Q_ell)$ be a convergent complex of sheaves.
    Then



    (i) (Finiteness) $f_!K_0$ is a convergent complex of sheaves on
    $mathscr Y_0,$ and



    (ii) (Trace formula) $c_v(mathscr X_0,K_0)=c_v(mathscr Y_0,f_!K_0)$
    for every integer $vge1.$




    Here $c_v$ is the sum of the trace of the $v$th power of Frobenius. Applying this in the case where $mathscr Y_0$ is a point gets you what you want.






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      This is Theorem 4.2 of Shenghao Sun's paper L-Series of Artin stacks over finite fields (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1008.3689.pdf).




      Let $f:mathscr X_0tomathscr Y_0$ be a morphism of $mathbb F_q$-algebraic stacks, and let $K_0in W^-,stra_m(mathscr X_0,overlinemathbb Q_ell)$ be a convergent complex of sheaves.
      Then



      (i) (Finiteness) $f_!K_0$ is a convergent complex of sheaves on
      $mathscr Y_0,$ and



      (ii) (Trace formula) $c_v(mathscr X_0,K_0)=c_v(mathscr Y_0,f_!K_0)$
      for every integer $vge1.$




      Here $c_v$ is the sum of the trace of the $v$th power of Frobenius. Applying this in the case where $mathscr Y_0$ is a point gets you what you want.






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        This is Theorem 4.2 of Shenghao Sun's paper L-Series of Artin stacks over finite fields (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1008.3689.pdf).




        Let $f:mathscr X_0tomathscr Y_0$ be a morphism of $mathbb F_q$-algebraic stacks, and let $K_0in W^-,stra_m(mathscr X_0,overlinemathbb Q_ell)$ be a convergent complex of sheaves.
        Then



        (i) (Finiteness) $f_!K_0$ is a convergent complex of sheaves on
        $mathscr Y_0,$ and



        (ii) (Trace formula) $c_v(mathscr X_0,K_0)=c_v(mathscr Y_0,f_!K_0)$
        for every integer $vge1.$




        Here $c_v$ is the sum of the trace of the $v$th power of Frobenius. Applying this in the case where $mathscr Y_0$ is a point gets you what you want.






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        This is Theorem 4.2 of Shenghao Sun's paper L-Series of Artin stacks over finite fields (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1008.3689.pdf).




        Let $f:mathscr X_0tomathscr Y_0$ be a morphism of $mathbb F_q$-algebraic stacks, and let $K_0in W^-,stra_m(mathscr X_0,overlinemathbb Q_ell)$ be a convergent complex of sheaves.
        Then



        (i) (Finiteness) $f_!K_0$ is a convergent complex of sheaves on
        $mathscr Y_0,$ and



        (ii) (Trace formula) $c_v(mathscr X_0,K_0)=c_v(mathscr Y_0,f_!K_0)$
        for every integer $vge1.$




        Here $c_v$ is the sum of the trace of the $v$th power of Frobenius. Applying this in the case where $mathscr Y_0$ is a point gets you what you want.







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