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I had stock options in a company which was recently sold to a private investment firm. As a result, my options were converted into a single large sum ( > $100,000) and delivered via wire transfer into my banking account.



This is a staggering amount of money for me. I have no debt outside my mortgage, so the plan was to just roll this in with the rest of my investments.



That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this influx of cash. I did get an explanatory letter from the company's CFO which noted that the proceeds from the sale may qualify as long-term capital gains (I received the stock options > 2 years ago).



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    I would expect that it would be well worth the cost to assume that you'll want to have an accountant prepare your taxes this year and to book an appointment with one now to do some tax planning/ estimation. It's likely relatively easy to get an appointment at this time of the year since it's well after tax season and the peace of mind would likely be worth it.

    – Justin Cave
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    "I received the stock options > 2 years ago." Did you also exercise them over a year ago?

    – Kevin
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Exercise means you actually paid the option price to receive stock. This sounds more like you received a cash payment in exchange for any vested (but unexercised) options.

    – chepner
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    No, "exercise" means you pay the company money to convert the option into a real share.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago






  • 2





    No, exercise means you converted the option to a real share. Especially when you sell them immediately, you can often do a cashless exercise, where the exercise, sale, and then issuance a check, all happening as an atomic operation without you paying money directly. Sounds like that's what the OP did.

    – stannius
    3 hours ago

















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I had stock options in a company which was recently sold to a private investment firm. As a result, my options were converted into a single large sum ( > $100,000) and delivered via wire transfer into my banking account.



This is a staggering amount of money for me. I have no debt outside my mortgage, so the plan was to just roll this in with the rest of my investments.



That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this influx of cash. I did get an explanatory letter from the company's CFO which noted that the proceeds from the sale may qualify as long-term capital gains (I received the stock options > 2 years ago).



Feeling a little overwhelmed -- what next?










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    I would expect that it would be well worth the cost to assume that you'll want to have an accountant prepare your taxes this year and to book an appointment with one now to do some tax planning/ estimation. It's likely relatively easy to get an appointment at this time of the year since it's well after tax season and the peace of mind would likely be worth it.

    – Justin Cave
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    "I received the stock options > 2 years ago." Did you also exercise them over a year ago?

    – Kevin
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Exercise means you actually paid the option price to receive stock. This sounds more like you received a cash payment in exchange for any vested (but unexercised) options.

    – chepner
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    No, "exercise" means you pay the company money to convert the option into a real share.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago






  • 2





    No, exercise means you converted the option to a real share. Especially when you sell them immediately, you can often do a cashless exercise, where the exercise, sale, and then issuance a check, all happening as an atomic operation without you paying money directly. Sounds like that's what the OP did.

    – stannius
    3 hours ago













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I had stock options in a company which was recently sold to a private investment firm. As a result, my options were converted into a single large sum ( > $100,000) and delivered via wire transfer into my banking account.



This is a staggering amount of money for me. I have no debt outside my mortgage, so the plan was to just roll this in with the rest of my investments.



That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this influx of cash. I did get an explanatory letter from the company's CFO which noted that the proceeds from the sale may qualify as long-term capital gains (I received the stock options > 2 years ago).



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I had stock options in a company which was recently sold to a private investment firm. As a result, my options were converted into a single large sum ( > $100,000) and delivered via wire transfer into my banking account.



This is a staggering amount of money for me. I have no debt outside my mortgage, so the plan was to just roll this in with the rest of my investments.



That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this influx of cash. I did get an explanatory letter from the company's CFO which noted that the proceeds from the sale may qualify as long-term capital gains (I received the stock options > 2 years ago).



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  • 2





    I would expect that it would be well worth the cost to assume that you'll want to have an accountant prepare your taxes this year and to book an appointment with one now to do some tax planning/ estimation. It's likely relatively easy to get an appointment at this time of the year since it's well after tax season and the peace of mind would likely be worth it.

    – Justin Cave
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    "I received the stock options > 2 years ago." Did you also exercise them over a year ago?

    – Kevin
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Exercise means you actually paid the option price to receive stock. This sounds more like you received a cash payment in exchange for any vested (but unexercised) options.

    – chepner
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    No, "exercise" means you pay the company money to convert the option into a real share.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago






  • 2





    No, exercise means you converted the option to a real share. Especially when you sell them immediately, you can often do a cashless exercise, where the exercise, sale, and then issuance a check, all happening as an atomic operation without you paying money directly. Sounds like that's what the OP did.

    – stannius
    3 hours ago












  • 2





    I would expect that it would be well worth the cost to assume that you'll want to have an accountant prepare your taxes this year and to book an appointment with one now to do some tax planning/ estimation. It's likely relatively easy to get an appointment at this time of the year since it's well after tax season and the peace of mind would likely be worth it.

    – Justin Cave
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    "I received the stock options > 2 years ago." Did you also exercise them over a year ago?

    – Kevin
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Exercise means you actually paid the option price to receive stock. This sounds more like you received a cash payment in exchange for any vested (but unexercised) options.

    – chepner
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    No, "exercise" means you pay the company money to convert the option into a real share.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago






  • 2





    No, exercise means you converted the option to a real share. Especially when you sell them immediately, you can often do a cashless exercise, where the exercise, sale, and then issuance a check, all happening as an atomic operation without you paying money directly. Sounds like that's what the OP did.

    – stannius
    3 hours ago







2




2





I would expect that it would be well worth the cost to assume that you'll want to have an accountant prepare your taxes this year and to book an appointment with one now to do some tax planning/ estimation. It's likely relatively easy to get an appointment at this time of the year since it's well after tax season and the peace of mind would likely be worth it.

– Justin Cave
6 hours ago





I would expect that it would be well worth the cost to assume that you'll want to have an accountant prepare your taxes this year and to book an appointment with one now to do some tax planning/ estimation. It's likely relatively easy to get an appointment at this time of the year since it's well after tax season and the peace of mind would likely be worth it.

– Justin Cave
6 hours ago




1




1





"I received the stock options > 2 years ago." Did you also exercise them over a year ago?

– Kevin
5 hours ago





"I received the stock options > 2 years ago." Did you also exercise them over a year ago?

– Kevin
5 hours ago




1




1





Exercise means you actually paid the option price to receive stock. This sounds more like you received a cash payment in exchange for any vested (but unexercised) options.

– chepner
4 hours ago





Exercise means you actually paid the option price to receive stock. This sounds more like you received a cash payment in exchange for any vested (but unexercised) options.

– chepner
4 hours ago




1




1





No, "exercise" means you pay the company money to convert the option into a real share.

– Kevin
4 hours ago





No, "exercise" means you pay the company money to convert the option into a real share.

– Kevin
4 hours ago




2




2





No, exercise means you converted the option to a real share. Especially when you sell them immediately, you can often do a cashless exercise, where the exercise, sale, and then issuance a check, all happening as an atomic operation without you paying money directly. Sounds like that's what the OP did.

– stannius
3 hours ago





No, exercise means you converted the option to a real share. Especially when you sell them immediately, you can often do a cashless exercise, where the exercise, sale, and then issuance a check, all happening as an atomic operation without you paying money directly. Sounds like that's what the OP did.

– stannius
3 hours ago










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In this case you should consult an actual tax professional since that can be rather complicated.



In general



  1. Tax treatment depends on whether (an how long) you did own actual stock at any point or if your options were directly converted to cash in a "same day sale".

  2. Assuming it's a "Same day sale" than the profit (sell price - exercise price) is taxable as "ordinary income". Same as your paycheck.

  3. You will need to pay "estimated taxes" this quarter to avoid a "underpayment penalty" next April

  4. You still may get an underpayment penalty since this is likely to push you into a higher tax bracket which may raise your taxes for previous quarters as well.

  5. You may want to adjust your withholding for the rest of the year to make sure you don't underpay in these quarters either.

You can certainly calculate all this yourself, but in this case, having a pro do it may easily save you more money then you need to pay for the service and you are on the safe side.



If you did own actual stock (not just options), things are significantly more complicated.






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  • I though there were windfall provisions in the tax code to protect you from "retroactive" underpayment. At the very least, I would think that with an accountant's help you could ensure that any necessary payments are made in the current quarter to keep you "up to date", as it were.

    – chepner
    4 hours ago






  • 2





    @chepner As long as you withhold at least 110% of your previous years tax liability, you will not be hit with any penalty for underwithholding.

    – stannius
    3 hours ago











  • Any suggestions on how to find a tax professional in my area? Am I looking for a CPA, an EA, or something else?

    – Sable Dreamer
    3 hours ago


















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This is going to be considered income, so sock a portion of it away for taxes!



The question then is, "how much should you sock away?"



That depends on how long you've held the options.



  • If less than a year, then it's short-term capital gains and so will be added to your income, so you'll be boosted into a higher bracket. Estimate what that will be based on your current income, and then put away that percentage of the $100K for taxes.

  • If more than a year, then it's long-term cap gains. Thus, put away 20% for taxes.

These "put away estimates" might be too high (you might have put too much in a high yield savings account), but better too much than too little.



Another issue is that you might need to pay quarterly taxes on the windfall. I'll leave it to others to answer that.






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  • @SableDreamer irs.gov/faqs/estimated-tax/…

    – RonJohn
    8 hours ago






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    According to the link you shared they will have to pay estimated tax on the windfall, so why leave it to others? Socking a portion away is not the answer, paying the appropriate tax now, is.

    – Hart CO
    7 hours ago












  • @HartCO taxes are paid quarterly. Thus, you sock it away until the quarterly tax is due.

    – RonJohn
    5 hours ago






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    @chepner the fact that he got "2 years" from the CFO's letter suggests an exercise-and-sell scenario, but I agree it's not clear. Given that he appears not to have exercised, I don't think there's any situation in which he could get long-term treatment anyway.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago


















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That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this




The stock option agreement you signed told you that taxes are your own responsibility. These transactions are just different than wage work even though your employer happens to be involved there is no withholding obligation from them.



Your CFO was correct, it MAY be long term capital gains, as in MIGHT. It MAY be income. It depends on the kind of contract (NSO, ISO, something non-standardized), and it depends on what you did when you received them like make an 83(b) election with the IRS or an 83(i) election with the IRS, or nothing. It depends on whether this transaction that was ultimately going to convey equity ownership for you was actually an OPTION or an EQUITY grant. If it was an equity grant it depends on if it was an RSU or RSA or something non-standardized or something else. In either scenario it depends on the share price of the conversion to cash payout.



When your CFO said it "may" be long term capital gains, its because it is the most favorable outcome tax wise and other employees in your company were on top of this strategically doing all of the aforementioned elections depending on their specific preferences and goals when they got their stock options. If you were one of those people, then it is just welcome news that the CFO reassured you of. Your CFO doesn't know exactly what you did or didn't do.






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    In this case you should consult an actual tax professional since that can be rather complicated.



    In general



    1. Tax treatment depends on whether (an how long) you did own actual stock at any point or if your options were directly converted to cash in a "same day sale".

    2. Assuming it's a "Same day sale" than the profit (sell price - exercise price) is taxable as "ordinary income". Same as your paycheck.

    3. You will need to pay "estimated taxes" this quarter to avoid a "underpayment penalty" next April

    4. You still may get an underpayment penalty since this is likely to push you into a higher tax bracket which may raise your taxes for previous quarters as well.

    5. You may want to adjust your withholding for the rest of the year to make sure you don't underpay in these quarters either.

    You can certainly calculate all this yourself, but in this case, having a pro do it may easily save you more money then you need to pay for the service and you are on the safe side.



    If you did own actual stock (not just options), things are significantly more complicated.






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    • I though there were windfall provisions in the tax code to protect you from "retroactive" underpayment. At the very least, I would think that with an accountant's help you could ensure that any necessary payments are made in the current quarter to keep you "up to date", as it were.

      – chepner
      4 hours ago






    • 2





      @chepner As long as you withhold at least 110% of your previous years tax liability, you will not be hit with any penalty for underwithholding.

      – stannius
      3 hours ago











    • Any suggestions on how to find a tax professional in my area? Am I looking for a CPA, an EA, or something else?

      – Sable Dreamer
      3 hours ago















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    In this case you should consult an actual tax professional since that can be rather complicated.



    In general



    1. Tax treatment depends on whether (an how long) you did own actual stock at any point or if your options were directly converted to cash in a "same day sale".

    2. Assuming it's a "Same day sale" than the profit (sell price - exercise price) is taxable as "ordinary income". Same as your paycheck.

    3. You will need to pay "estimated taxes" this quarter to avoid a "underpayment penalty" next April

    4. You still may get an underpayment penalty since this is likely to push you into a higher tax bracket which may raise your taxes for previous quarters as well.

    5. You may want to adjust your withholding for the rest of the year to make sure you don't underpay in these quarters either.

    You can certainly calculate all this yourself, but in this case, having a pro do it may easily save you more money then you need to pay for the service and you are on the safe side.



    If you did own actual stock (not just options), things are significantly more complicated.






    share|improve this answer























    • I though there were windfall provisions in the tax code to protect you from "retroactive" underpayment. At the very least, I would think that with an accountant's help you could ensure that any necessary payments are made in the current quarter to keep you "up to date", as it were.

      – chepner
      4 hours ago






    • 2





      @chepner As long as you withhold at least 110% of your previous years tax liability, you will not be hit with any penalty for underwithholding.

      – stannius
      3 hours ago











    • Any suggestions on how to find a tax professional in my area? Am I looking for a CPA, an EA, or something else?

      – Sable Dreamer
      3 hours ago













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    In this case you should consult an actual tax professional since that can be rather complicated.



    In general



    1. Tax treatment depends on whether (an how long) you did own actual stock at any point or if your options were directly converted to cash in a "same day sale".

    2. Assuming it's a "Same day sale" than the profit (sell price - exercise price) is taxable as "ordinary income". Same as your paycheck.

    3. You will need to pay "estimated taxes" this quarter to avoid a "underpayment penalty" next April

    4. You still may get an underpayment penalty since this is likely to push you into a higher tax bracket which may raise your taxes for previous quarters as well.

    5. You may want to adjust your withholding for the rest of the year to make sure you don't underpay in these quarters either.

    You can certainly calculate all this yourself, but in this case, having a pro do it may easily save you more money then you need to pay for the service and you are on the safe side.



    If you did own actual stock (not just options), things are significantly more complicated.






    share|improve this answer













    In this case you should consult an actual tax professional since that can be rather complicated.



    In general



    1. Tax treatment depends on whether (an how long) you did own actual stock at any point or if your options were directly converted to cash in a "same day sale".

    2. Assuming it's a "Same day sale" than the profit (sell price - exercise price) is taxable as "ordinary income". Same as your paycheck.

    3. You will need to pay "estimated taxes" this quarter to avoid a "underpayment penalty" next April

    4. You still may get an underpayment penalty since this is likely to push you into a higher tax bracket which may raise your taxes for previous quarters as well.

    5. You may want to adjust your withholding for the rest of the year to make sure you don't underpay in these quarters either.

    You can certainly calculate all this yourself, but in this case, having a pro do it may easily save you more money then you need to pay for the service and you are on the safe side.



    If you did own actual stock (not just options), things are significantly more complicated.







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    • I though there were windfall provisions in the tax code to protect you from "retroactive" underpayment. At the very least, I would think that with an accountant's help you could ensure that any necessary payments are made in the current quarter to keep you "up to date", as it were.

      – chepner
      4 hours ago






    • 2





      @chepner As long as you withhold at least 110% of your previous years tax liability, you will not be hit with any penalty for underwithholding.

      – stannius
      3 hours ago











    • Any suggestions on how to find a tax professional in my area? Am I looking for a CPA, an EA, or something else?

      – Sable Dreamer
      3 hours ago

















    • I though there were windfall provisions in the tax code to protect you from "retroactive" underpayment. At the very least, I would think that with an accountant's help you could ensure that any necessary payments are made in the current quarter to keep you "up to date", as it were.

      – chepner
      4 hours ago






    • 2





      @chepner As long as you withhold at least 110% of your previous years tax liability, you will not be hit with any penalty for underwithholding.

      – stannius
      3 hours ago











    • Any suggestions on how to find a tax professional in my area? Am I looking for a CPA, an EA, or something else?

      – Sable Dreamer
      3 hours ago
















    I though there were windfall provisions in the tax code to protect you from "retroactive" underpayment. At the very least, I would think that with an accountant's help you could ensure that any necessary payments are made in the current quarter to keep you "up to date", as it were.

    – chepner
    4 hours ago





    I though there were windfall provisions in the tax code to protect you from "retroactive" underpayment. At the very least, I would think that with an accountant's help you could ensure that any necessary payments are made in the current quarter to keep you "up to date", as it were.

    – chepner
    4 hours ago




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    @chepner As long as you withhold at least 110% of your previous years tax liability, you will not be hit with any penalty for underwithholding.

    – stannius
    3 hours ago





    @chepner As long as you withhold at least 110% of your previous years tax liability, you will not be hit with any penalty for underwithholding.

    – stannius
    3 hours ago













    Any suggestions on how to find a tax professional in my area? Am I looking for a CPA, an EA, or something else?

    – Sable Dreamer
    3 hours ago





    Any suggestions on how to find a tax professional in my area? Am I looking for a CPA, an EA, or something else?

    – Sable Dreamer
    3 hours ago













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    This is going to be considered income, so sock a portion of it away for taxes!



    The question then is, "how much should you sock away?"



    That depends on how long you've held the options.



    • If less than a year, then it's short-term capital gains and so will be added to your income, so you'll be boosted into a higher bracket. Estimate what that will be based on your current income, and then put away that percentage of the $100K for taxes.

    • If more than a year, then it's long-term cap gains. Thus, put away 20% for taxes.

    These "put away estimates" might be too high (you might have put too much in a high yield savings account), but better too much than too little.



    Another issue is that you might need to pay quarterly taxes on the windfall. I'll leave it to others to answer that.






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    • Quarterly taxes‽

      – Sable Dreamer
      8 hours ago











    • @SableDreamer irs.gov/faqs/estimated-tax/…

      – RonJohn
      8 hours ago






    • 2





      According to the link you shared they will have to pay estimated tax on the windfall, so why leave it to others? Socking a portion away is not the answer, paying the appropriate tax now, is.

      – Hart CO
      7 hours ago












    • @HartCO taxes are paid quarterly. Thus, you sock it away until the quarterly tax is due.

      – RonJohn
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      @chepner the fact that he got "2 years" from the CFO's letter suggests an exercise-and-sell scenario, but I agree it's not clear. Given that he appears not to have exercised, I don't think there's any situation in which he could get long-term treatment anyway.

      – Kevin
      4 hours ago















    3














    This is going to be considered income, so sock a portion of it away for taxes!



    The question then is, "how much should you sock away?"



    That depends on how long you've held the options.



    • If less than a year, then it's short-term capital gains and so will be added to your income, so you'll be boosted into a higher bracket. Estimate what that will be based on your current income, and then put away that percentage of the $100K for taxes.

    • If more than a year, then it's long-term cap gains. Thus, put away 20% for taxes.

    These "put away estimates" might be too high (you might have put too much in a high yield savings account), but better too much than too little.



    Another issue is that you might need to pay quarterly taxes on the windfall. I'll leave it to others to answer that.






    share|improve this answer























    • Quarterly taxes‽

      – Sable Dreamer
      8 hours ago











    • @SableDreamer irs.gov/faqs/estimated-tax/…

      – RonJohn
      8 hours ago






    • 2





      According to the link you shared they will have to pay estimated tax on the windfall, so why leave it to others? Socking a portion away is not the answer, paying the appropriate tax now, is.

      – Hart CO
      7 hours ago












    • @HartCO taxes are paid quarterly. Thus, you sock it away until the quarterly tax is due.

      – RonJohn
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      @chepner the fact that he got "2 years" from the CFO's letter suggests an exercise-and-sell scenario, but I agree it's not clear. Given that he appears not to have exercised, I don't think there's any situation in which he could get long-term treatment anyway.

      – Kevin
      4 hours ago













    3












    3








    3







    This is going to be considered income, so sock a portion of it away for taxes!



    The question then is, "how much should you sock away?"



    That depends on how long you've held the options.



    • If less than a year, then it's short-term capital gains and so will be added to your income, so you'll be boosted into a higher bracket. Estimate what that will be based on your current income, and then put away that percentage of the $100K for taxes.

    • If more than a year, then it's long-term cap gains. Thus, put away 20% for taxes.

    These "put away estimates" might be too high (you might have put too much in a high yield savings account), but better too much than too little.



    Another issue is that you might need to pay quarterly taxes on the windfall. I'll leave it to others to answer that.






    share|improve this answer













    This is going to be considered income, so sock a portion of it away for taxes!



    The question then is, "how much should you sock away?"



    That depends on how long you've held the options.



    • If less than a year, then it's short-term capital gains and so will be added to your income, so you'll be boosted into a higher bracket. Estimate what that will be based on your current income, and then put away that percentage of the $100K for taxes.

    • If more than a year, then it's long-term cap gains. Thus, put away 20% for taxes.

    These "put away estimates" might be too high (you might have put too much in a high yield savings account), but better too much than too little.



    Another issue is that you might need to pay quarterly taxes on the windfall. I'll leave it to others to answer that.







    share|improve this answer












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    • Quarterly taxes‽

      – Sable Dreamer
      8 hours ago











    • @SableDreamer irs.gov/faqs/estimated-tax/…

      – RonJohn
      8 hours ago






    • 2





      According to the link you shared they will have to pay estimated tax on the windfall, so why leave it to others? Socking a portion away is not the answer, paying the appropriate tax now, is.

      – Hart CO
      7 hours ago












    • @HartCO taxes are paid quarterly. Thus, you sock it away until the quarterly tax is due.

      – RonJohn
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      @chepner the fact that he got "2 years" from the CFO's letter suggests an exercise-and-sell scenario, but I agree it's not clear. Given that he appears not to have exercised, I don't think there's any situation in which he could get long-term treatment anyway.

      – Kevin
      4 hours ago

















    • Quarterly taxes‽

      – Sable Dreamer
      8 hours ago











    • @SableDreamer irs.gov/faqs/estimated-tax/…

      – RonJohn
      8 hours ago






    • 2





      According to the link you shared they will have to pay estimated tax on the windfall, so why leave it to others? Socking a portion away is not the answer, paying the appropriate tax now, is.

      – Hart CO
      7 hours ago












    • @HartCO taxes are paid quarterly. Thus, you sock it away until the quarterly tax is due.

      – RonJohn
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      @chepner the fact that he got "2 years" from the CFO's letter suggests an exercise-and-sell scenario, but I agree it's not clear. Given that he appears not to have exercised, I don't think there's any situation in which he could get long-term treatment anyway.

      – Kevin
      4 hours ago
















    Quarterly taxes‽

    – Sable Dreamer
    8 hours ago





    Quarterly taxes‽

    – Sable Dreamer
    8 hours ago













    @SableDreamer irs.gov/faqs/estimated-tax/…

    – RonJohn
    8 hours ago





    @SableDreamer irs.gov/faqs/estimated-tax/…

    – RonJohn
    8 hours ago




    2




    2





    According to the link you shared they will have to pay estimated tax on the windfall, so why leave it to others? Socking a portion away is not the answer, paying the appropriate tax now, is.

    – Hart CO
    7 hours ago






    According to the link you shared they will have to pay estimated tax on the windfall, so why leave it to others? Socking a portion away is not the answer, paying the appropriate tax now, is.

    – Hart CO
    7 hours ago














    @HartCO taxes are paid quarterly. Thus, you sock it away until the quarterly tax is due.

    – RonJohn
    5 hours ago





    @HartCO taxes are paid quarterly. Thus, you sock it away until the quarterly tax is due.

    – RonJohn
    5 hours ago




    1




    1





    @chepner the fact that he got "2 years" from the CFO's letter suggests an exercise-and-sell scenario, but I agree it's not clear. Given that he appears not to have exercised, I don't think there's any situation in which he could get long-term treatment anyway.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago





    @chepner the fact that he got "2 years" from the CFO's letter suggests an exercise-and-sell scenario, but I agree it's not clear. Given that he appears not to have exercised, I don't think there's any situation in which he could get long-term treatment anyway.

    – Kevin
    4 hours ago











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    That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this




    The stock option agreement you signed told you that taxes are your own responsibility. These transactions are just different than wage work even though your employer happens to be involved there is no withholding obligation from them.



    Your CFO was correct, it MAY be long term capital gains, as in MIGHT. It MAY be income. It depends on the kind of contract (NSO, ISO, something non-standardized), and it depends on what you did when you received them like make an 83(b) election with the IRS or an 83(i) election with the IRS, or nothing. It depends on whether this transaction that was ultimately going to convey equity ownership for you was actually an OPTION or an EQUITY grant. If it was an equity grant it depends on if it was an RSU or RSA or something non-standardized or something else. In either scenario it depends on the share price of the conversion to cash payout.



    When your CFO said it "may" be long term capital gains, its because it is the most favorable outcome tax wise and other employees in your company were on top of this strategically doing all of the aforementioned elections depending on their specific preferences and goals when they got their stock options. If you were one of those people, then it is just welcome news that the CFO reassured you of. Your CFO doesn't know exactly what you did or didn't do.






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      That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this




      The stock option agreement you signed told you that taxes are your own responsibility. These transactions are just different than wage work even though your employer happens to be involved there is no withholding obligation from them.



      Your CFO was correct, it MAY be long term capital gains, as in MIGHT. It MAY be income. It depends on the kind of contract (NSO, ISO, something non-standardized), and it depends on what you did when you received them like make an 83(b) election with the IRS or an 83(i) election with the IRS, or nothing. It depends on whether this transaction that was ultimately going to convey equity ownership for you was actually an OPTION or an EQUITY grant. If it was an equity grant it depends on if it was an RSU or RSA or something non-standardized or something else. In either scenario it depends on the share price of the conversion to cash payout.



      When your CFO said it "may" be long term capital gains, its because it is the most favorable outcome tax wise and other employees in your company were on top of this strategically doing all of the aforementioned elections depending on their specific preferences and goals when they got their stock options. If you were one of those people, then it is just welcome news that the CFO reassured you of. Your CFO doesn't know exactly what you did or didn't do.






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        That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this




        The stock option agreement you signed told you that taxes are your own responsibility. These transactions are just different than wage work even though your employer happens to be involved there is no withholding obligation from them.



        Your CFO was correct, it MAY be long term capital gains, as in MIGHT. It MAY be income. It depends on the kind of contract (NSO, ISO, something non-standardized), and it depends on what you did when you received them like make an 83(b) election with the IRS or an 83(i) election with the IRS, or nothing. It depends on whether this transaction that was ultimately going to convey equity ownership for you was actually an OPTION or an EQUITY grant. If it was an equity grant it depends on if it was an RSU or RSA or something non-standardized or something else. In either scenario it depends on the share price of the conversion to cash payout.



        When your CFO said it "may" be long term capital gains, its because it is the most favorable outcome tax wise and other employees in your company were on top of this strategically doing all of the aforementioned elections depending on their specific preferences and goals when they got their stock options. If you were one of those people, then it is just welcome news that the CFO reassured you of. Your CFO doesn't know exactly what you did or didn't do.






        share|improve this answer














        That said, I would be flabbergasted if there wasn't some tax thing I needed to do to account for this




        The stock option agreement you signed told you that taxes are your own responsibility. These transactions are just different than wage work even though your employer happens to be involved there is no withholding obligation from them.



        Your CFO was correct, it MAY be long term capital gains, as in MIGHT. It MAY be income. It depends on the kind of contract (NSO, ISO, something non-standardized), and it depends on what you did when you received them like make an 83(b) election with the IRS or an 83(i) election with the IRS, or nothing. It depends on whether this transaction that was ultimately going to convey equity ownership for you was actually an OPTION or an EQUITY grant. If it was an equity grant it depends on if it was an RSU or RSA or something non-standardized or something else. In either scenario it depends on the share price of the conversion to cash payout.



        When your CFO said it "may" be long term capital gains, its because it is the most favorable outcome tax wise and other employees in your company were on top of this strategically doing all of the aforementioned elections depending on their specific preferences and goals when they got their stock options. If you were one of those people, then it is just welcome news that the CFO reassured you of. Your CFO doesn't know exactly what you did or didn't do.







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