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I am intern in cybersecurity. I have been doing an internship at a medium company (~70 people) for the last 4 months. I think that I have done an OK job so far and my colleagues and manager don't seem to think otherwise. Beside, every time my future was mentioned in a conversation, HR or my manager told me they wish I would stay at the company.
The internship will end in august.



I have a meeting with my manager and HR in a few days. This meeting is taking place to determine my future at the company. I have been hired as an intern, to do a task, that will - I hope- be completed at the end of my internship. So the meeting will also be a way to determine what job I will have in the department I am currently working in.
My question is:



  1. How should I navigate assignments for my job role when transitioning to potential employee in a niche IT role?


  2. What should I consider when discussing salary in transitioning to a permanent specialized role in IT from an internship?










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    What's "the salary question"? Yes, you should know how much you'll be getting paid before accepting an offer, and you should do some research to determine whether that's reasonable (for a non-intern), and you should also be interviewing elsewhere.

    – Dukeling
    7 hours ago







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    You may find some useful advice in How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid? (at least in terms of which points you can raise during salary negotiation - ignore the part about a 10% raise being a lot, since moving from intern to permanent is quite different from getting a normal raise) and Does the first person to mention a number in a salary negotiation lose? You can probably also find some other relevant posts about salary negotiation here.

    – Dukeling
    7 hours ago












  • Yes. This is exactly the time to bring up salary. Whatever you establish now generally dictates your future at a company and largely beyond. Many companies have rules limiting how much raises can be, how often, maximums for promotions, etc. Future jobs may ask what your current salary is and attempt to use that as a baseline. There are ways around that but overall though talking salary is usually awkward this would be the time to do so.

    – John Spiegel
    7 hours ago












  • Thank you, I am quite inexperienced in these kind of interviews / negotiation. I wanted to be sure it was the right time to bring it up. I make sure to read everything you linked.

    – a crowbar
    6 hours ago











  • As a fellow Cybersecurity professional, I can provide some insider advice. which specific area of cyber are you working in - AppSec, IAM, GRC, etc?

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I am intern in cybersecurity. I have been doing an internship at a medium company (~70 people) for the last 4 months. I think that I have done an OK job so far and my colleagues and manager don't seem to think otherwise. Beside, every time my future was mentioned in a conversation, HR or my manager told me they wish I would stay at the company.
The internship will end in august.



I have a meeting with my manager and HR in a few days. This meeting is taking place to determine my future at the company. I have been hired as an intern, to do a task, that will - I hope- be completed at the end of my internship. So the meeting will also be a way to determine what job I will have in the department I am currently working in.
My question is:



  1. How should I navigate assignments for my job role when transitioning to potential employee in a niche IT role?


  2. What should I consider when discussing salary in transitioning to a permanent specialized role in IT from an internship?










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    What's "the salary question"? Yes, you should know how much you'll be getting paid before accepting an offer, and you should do some research to determine whether that's reasonable (for a non-intern), and you should also be interviewing elsewhere.

    – Dukeling
    7 hours ago







  • 1





    You may find some useful advice in How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid? (at least in terms of which points you can raise during salary negotiation - ignore the part about a 10% raise being a lot, since moving from intern to permanent is quite different from getting a normal raise) and Does the first person to mention a number in a salary negotiation lose? You can probably also find some other relevant posts about salary negotiation here.

    – Dukeling
    7 hours ago












  • Yes. This is exactly the time to bring up salary. Whatever you establish now generally dictates your future at a company and largely beyond. Many companies have rules limiting how much raises can be, how often, maximums for promotions, etc. Future jobs may ask what your current salary is and attempt to use that as a baseline. There are ways around that but overall though talking salary is usually awkward this would be the time to do so.

    – John Spiegel
    7 hours ago












  • Thank you, I am quite inexperienced in these kind of interviews / negotiation. I wanted to be sure it was the right time to bring it up. I make sure to read everything you linked.

    – a crowbar
    6 hours ago











  • As a fellow Cybersecurity professional, I can provide some insider advice. which specific area of cyber are you working in - AppSec, IAM, GRC, etc?

    – Anthony
    35 mins ago













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I am intern in cybersecurity. I have been doing an internship at a medium company (~70 people) for the last 4 months. I think that I have done an OK job so far and my colleagues and manager don't seem to think otherwise. Beside, every time my future was mentioned in a conversation, HR or my manager told me they wish I would stay at the company.
The internship will end in august.



I have a meeting with my manager and HR in a few days. This meeting is taking place to determine my future at the company. I have been hired as an intern, to do a task, that will - I hope- be completed at the end of my internship. So the meeting will also be a way to determine what job I will have in the department I am currently working in.
My question is:



  1. How should I navigate assignments for my job role when transitioning to potential employee in a niche IT role?


  2. What should I consider when discussing salary in transitioning to a permanent specialized role in IT from an internship?










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I am intern in cybersecurity. I have been doing an internship at a medium company (~70 people) for the last 4 months. I think that I have done an OK job so far and my colleagues and manager don't seem to think otherwise. Beside, every time my future was mentioned in a conversation, HR or my manager told me they wish I would stay at the company.
The internship will end in august.



I have a meeting with my manager and HR in a few days. This meeting is taking place to determine my future at the company. I have been hired as an intern, to do a task, that will - I hope- be completed at the end of my internship. So the meeting will also be a way to determine what job I will have in the department I am currently working in.
My question is:



  1. How should I navigate assignments for my job role when transitioning to potential employee in a niche IT role?


  2. What should I consider when discussing salary in transitioning to a permanent specialized role in IT from an internship?







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    What's "the salary question"? Yes, you should know how much you'll be getting paid before accepting an offer, and you should do some research to determine whether that's reasonable (for a non-intern), and you should also be interviewing elsewhere.

    – Dukeling
    7 hours ago







  • 1





    You may find some useful advice in How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid? (at least in terms of which points you can raise during salary negotiation - ignore the part about a 10% raise being a lot, since moving from intern to permanent is quite different from getting a normal raise) and Does the first person to mention a number in a salary negotiation lose? You can probably also find some other relevant posts about salary negotiation here.

    – Dukeling
    7 hours ago












  • Yes. This is exactly the time to bring up salary. Whatever you establish now generally dictates your future at a company and largely beyond. Many companies have rules limiting how much raises can be, how often, maximums for promotions, etc. Future jobs may ask what your current salary is and attempt to use that as a baseline. There are ways around that but overall though talking salary is usually awkward this would be the time to do so.

    – John Spiegel
    7 hours ago












  • Thank you, I am quite inexperienced in these kind of interviews / negotiation. I wanted to be sure it was the right time to bring it up. I make sure to read everything you linked.

    – a crowbar
    6 hours ago











  • As a fellow Cybersecurity professional, I can provide some insider advice. which specific area of cyber are you working in - AppSec, IAM, GRC, etc?

    – Anthony
    35 mins ago












  • 3





    What's "the salary question"? Yes, you should know how much you'll be getting paid before accepting an offer, and you should do some research to determine whether that's reasonable (for a non-intern), and you should also be interviewing elsewhere.

    – Dukeling
    7 hours ago







  • 1





    You may find some useful advice in How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid? (at least in terms of which points you can raise during salary negotiation - ignore the part about a 10% raise being a lot, since moving from intern to permanent is quite different from getting a normal raise) and Does the first person to mention a number in a salary negotiation lose? You can probably also find some other relevant posts about salary negotiation here.

    – Dukeling
    7 hours ago












  • Yes. This is exactly the time to bring up salary. Whatever you establish now generally dictates your future at a company and largely beyond. Many companies have rules limiting how much raises can be, how often, maximums for promotions, etc. Future jobs may ask what your current salary is and attempt to use that as a baseline. There are ways around that but overall though talking salary is usually awkward this would be the time to do so.

    – John Spiegel
    7 hours ago












  • Thank you, I am quite inexperienced in these kind of interviews / negotiation. I wanted to be sure it was the right time to bring it up. I make sure to read everything you linked.

    – a crowbar
    6 hours ago











  • As a fellow Cybersecurity professional, I can provide some insider advice. which specific area of cyber are you working in - AppSec, IAM, GRC, etc?

    – Anthony
    35 mins ago







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What's "the salary question"? Yes, you should know how much you'll be getting paid before accepting an offer, and you should do some research to determine whether that's reasonable (for a non-intern), and you should also be interviewing elsewhere.

– Dukeling
7 hours ago






What's "the salary question"? Yes, you should know how much you'll be getting paid before accepting an offer, and you should do some research to determine whether that's reasonable (for a non-intern), and you should also be interviewing elsewhere.

– Dukeling
7 hours ago





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You may find some useful advice in How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid? (at least in terms of which points you can raise during salary negotiation - ignore the part about a 10% raise being a lot, since moving from intern to permanent is quite different from getting a normal raise) and Does the first person to mention a number in a salary negotiation lose? You can probably also find some other relevant posts about salary negotiation here.

– Dukeling
7 hours ago






You may find some useful advice in How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid? (at least in terms of which points you can raise during salary negotiation - ignore the part about a 10% raise being a lot, since moving from intern to permanent is quite different from getting a normal raise) and Does the first person to mention a number in a salary negotiation lose? You can probably also find some other relevant posts about salary negotiation here.

– Dukeling
7 hours ago














Yes. This is exactly the time to bring up salary. Whatever you establish now generally dictates your future at a company and largely beyond. Many companies have rules limiting how much raises can be, how often, maximums for promotions, etc. Future jobs may ask what your current salary is and attempt to use that as a baseline. There are ways around that but overall though talking salary is usually awkward this would be the time to do so.

– John Spiegel
7 hours ago






Yes. This is exactly the time to bring up salary. Whatever you establish now generally dictates your future at a company and largely beyond. Many companies have rules limiting how much raises can be, how often, maximums for promotions, etc. Future jobs may ask what your current salary is and attempt to use that as a baseline. There are ways around that but overall though talking salary is usually awkward this would be the time to do so.

– John Spiegel
7 hours ago














Thank you, I am quite inexperienced in these kind of interviews / negotiation. I wanted to be sure it was the right time to bring it up. I make sure to read everything you linked.

– a crowbar
6 hours ago





Thank you, I am quite inexperienced in these kind of interviews / negotiation. I wanted to be sure it was the right time to bring it up. I make sure to read everything you linked.

– a crowbar
6 hours ago













As a fellow Cybersecurity professional, I can provide some insider advice. which specific area of cyber are you working in - AppSec, IAM, GRC, etc?

– Anthony
35 mins ago





As a fellow Cybersecurity professional, I can provide some insider advice. which specific area of cyber are you working in - AppSec, IAM, GRC, etc?

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Should I bring up the salary question? And if yes do you have tips on how to do it ?




Yes, you definitely should bring up the salary discussion. You should be comfortable you are being compensated according to you market worth and what specific skills you bring to the employment table.



As to how, given you are in cybersecurity, you should focus on the particular niche skills you have and how you contributed value during your internship.



Cybersecurity is a very specialized field within IT, and there are many differing roles depending on your skillset. I currently work in Security Operations and Incident Response in a SOC, but have members in my professional network specializing in GRC, AppSec, IAM, and event ethical hacking / penetration testing.



Cybersecurity is experiencing a shortage of professionals with the right skills which means that compensation will need to increase and remain competitive to attract new talents. Companies are having a difficult time finding talent and many professionals leave due to better pay elsewhere. My experience in a my senior role interviewing candidates support these research results.



While competitive salary is important aspect of a job offer, I find compensation to be especially important from my experience working in cybersecurity for approximately 5 years. Hence my advice is to focus on what your bring to the table in terms of technical ability. You should not worry too much assuming you have no red flags in your background.






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    Should I bring up the salary question? And if yes do you have tips on how to do it ?




    Yes, you definitely should bring up the salary discussion. You should be comfortable you are being compensated according to you market worth and what specific skills you bring to the employment table.



    As to how, given you are in cybersecurity, you should focus on the particular niche skills you have and how you contributed value during your internship.



    Cybersecurity is a very specialized field within IT, and there are many differing roles depending on your skillset. I currently work in Security Operations and Incident Response in a SOC, but have members in my professional network specializing in GRC, AppSec, IAM, and event ethical hacking / penetration testing.



    Cybersecurity is experiencing a shortage of professionals with the right skills which means that compensation will need to increase and remain competitive to attract new talents. Companies are having a difficult time finding talent and many professionals leave due to better pay elsewhere. My experience in a my senior role interviewing candidates support these research results.



    While competitive salary is important aspect of a job offer, I find compensation to be especially important from my experience working in cybersecurity for approximately 5 years. Hence my advice is to focus on what your bring to the table in terms of technical ability. You should not worry too much assuming you have no red flags in your background.






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      Should I bring up the salary question? And if yes do you have tips on how to do it ?




      Yes, you definitely should bring up the salary discussion. You should be comfortable you are being compensated according to you market worth and what specific skills you bring to the employment table.



      As to how, given you are in cybersecurity, you should focus on the particular niche skills you have and how you contributed value during your internship.



      Cybersecurity is a very specialized field within IT, and there are many differing roles depending on your skillset. I currently work in Security Operations and Incident Response in a SOC, but have members in my professional network specializing in GRC, AppSec, IAM, and event ethical hacking / penetration testing.



      Cybersecurity is experiencing a shortage of professionals with the right skills which means that compensation will need to increase and remain competitive to attract new talents. Companies are having a difficult time finding talent and many professionals leave due to better pay elsewhere. My experience in a my senior role interviewing candidates support these research results.



      While competitive salary is important aspect of a job offer, I find compensation to be especially important from my experience working in cybersecurity for approximately 5 years. Hence my advice is to focus on what your bring to the table in terms of technical ability. You should not worry too much assuming you have no red flags in your background.






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        Should I bring up the salary question? And if yes do you have tips on how to do it ?




        Yes, you definitely should bring up the salary discussion. You should be comfortable you are being compensated according to you market worth and what specific skills you bring to the employment table.



        As to how, given you are in cybersecurity, you should focus on the particular niche skills you have and how you contributed value during your internship.



        Cybersecurity is a very specialized field within IT, and there are many differing roles depending on your skillset. I currently work in Security Operations and Incident Response in a SOC, but have members in my professional network specializing in GRC, AppSec, IAM, and event ethical hacking / penetration testing.



        Cybersecurity is experiencing a shortage of professionals with the right skills which means that compensation will need to increase and remain competitive to attract new talents. Companies are having a difficult time finding talent and many professionals leave due to better pay elsewhere. My experience in a my senior role interviewing candidates support these research results.



        While competitive salary is important aspect of a job offer, I find compensation to be especially important from my experience working in cybersecurity for approximately 5 years. Hence my advice is to focus on what your bring to the table in terms of technical ability. You should not worry too much assuming you have no red flags in your background.






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        Should I bring up the salary question? And if yes do you have tips on how to do it ?




        Yes, you definitely should bring up the salary discussion. You should be comfortable you are being compensated according to you market worth and what specific skills you bring to the employment table.



        As to how, given you are in cybersecurity, you should focus on the particular niche skills you have and how you contributed value during your internship.



        Cybersecurity is a very specialized field within IT, and there are many differing roles depending on your skillset. I currently work in Security Operations and Incident Response in a SOC, but have members in my professional network specializing in GRC, AppSec, IAM, and event ethical hacking / penetration testing.



        Cybersecurity is experiencing a shortage of professionals with the right skills which means that compensation will need to increase and remain competitive to attract new talents. Companies are having a difficult time finding talent and many professionals leave due to better pay elsewhere. My experience in a my senior role interviewing candidates support these research results.



        While competitive salary is important aspect of a job offer, I find compensation to be especially important from my experience working in cybersecurity for approximately 5 years. Hence my advice is to focus on what your bring to the table in terms of technical ability. You should not worry too much assuming you have no red flags in your background.







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