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I have come across the following sentence lately:
Je mets fin à un conflit.
How am I supposed to pronounce ɛ̃ (fin), a (à) and œ̃ (un) after one another? Is there a way to go about it? Should I fuse the first one with the second or the second with the last one or all of the three? It's highly confusing for me as a beginner.
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I have come across the following sentence lately:
Je mets fin à un conflit.
How am I supposed to pronounce ɛ̃ (fin), a (à) and œ̃ (un) after one another? Is there a way to go about it? Should I fuse the first one with the second or the second with the last one or all of the three? It's highly confusing for me as a beginner.
nasalisation
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I have come across the following sentence lately:
Je mets fin à un conflit.
How am I supposed to pronounce ɛ̃ (fin), a (à) and œ̃ (un) after one another? Is there a way to go about it? Should I fuse the first one with the second or the second with the last one or all of the three? It's highly confusing for me as a beginner.
nasalisation
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I have come across the following sentence lately:
Je mets fin à un conflit.
How am I supposed to pronounce ɛ̃ (fin), a (à) and œ̃ (un) after one another? Is there a way to go about it? Should I fuse the first one with the second or the second with the last one or all of the three? It's highly confusing for me as a beginner.
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There is usually a very slight pause between fin and à un conflit but all these vowels might be also pronounced in a row.
In poetry, hiatus tend to be avoided but in regular prose/speech, French has no problem with successive vowels, whether nasalized or not.
For example, the sentence:
Tu as en haut un houx aérien.
has eight successive phonetic vowels /ty a ɑ̃ o œ̃ u aerjɛ̃/ but can be nevertheless easily pronounced by any native French person.
Here is another one that could technically be heard in a primary school:
Haie a un A, un I et un E et eau a un E un A et un U qui se suivent.
/ɛ a œ̃ a œ̃ i e œ̃ ə e o a œ̃ ə œ̃ a œ̃ y kisəsɥiv/
Nineteen phonetic vowels...
I mean, that is absolutely horrifying! in Hungarian, we have words like "fiaiéié" (vowel-collision) or "megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért" (too long word) but these ones with their own special pronounciations are the worst!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
1
actually, this is the best answer I have ever got on any SE site. it made me laugh so hard. thank you!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
It seems Hungarian can even coin fiaiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiért ... ;-)
– jlliagre
2 hours ago
yes, but it is something that will never be said.
– Marcus
2 hours ago
add a comment |
You can't pronounce that too fast; use the indicated sounds, taking care to pronounce each nasal vowel fully so as to avoid blurred sounds; it's difficult for natives too as the usual distribution of sounds in French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.
There is no other way, no adition of phantom consonants, no fusion.
1
That would be great to add some reference regarding the statement: “French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.” It is a first for me, and I could probably find hundreds of individual words that have two vowel sounds in a row.
– Montée de lait
5 hours ago
@Montéedelait True, it would be better if this statement were supplemented with a reference; unfortunately, I can't get back at the source where I got that. Anyway, that's mostly true and the theory of liaisons is such that it tends to introduce these missing consonants between words (un navion, deux zétangs, …).
– LPH
5 hours ago
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There is usually a very slight pause between fin and à un conflit but all these vowels might be also pronounced in a row.
In poetry, hiatus tend to be avoided but in regular prose/speech, French has no problem with successive vowels, whether nasalized or not.
For example, the sentence:
Tu as en haut un houx aérien.
has eight successive phonetic vowels /ty a ɑ̃ o œ̃ u aerjɛ̃/ but can be nevertheless easily pronounced by any native French person.
Here is another one that could technically be heard in a primary school:
Haie a un A, un I et un E et eau a un E un A et un U qui se suivent.
/ɛ a œ̃ a œ̃ i e œ̃ ə e o a œ̃ ə œ̃ a œ̃ y kisəsɥiv/
Nineteen phonetic vowels...
I mean, that is absolutely horrifying! in Hungarian, we have words like "fiaiéié" (vowel-collision) or "megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért" (too long word) but these ones with their own special pronounciations are the worst!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
1
actually, this is the best answer I have ever got on any SE site. it made me laugh so hard. thank you!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
It seems Hungarian can even coin fiaiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiért ... ;-)
– jlliagre
2 hours ago
yes, but it is something that will never be said.
– Marcus
2 hours ago
add a comment |
There is usually a very slight pause between fin and à un conflit but all these vowels might be also pronounced in a row.
In poetry, hiatus tend to be avoided but in regular prose/speech, French has no problem with successive vowels, whether nasalized or not.
For example, the sentence:
Tu as en haut un houx aérien.
has eight successive phonetic vowels /ty a ɑ̃ o œ̃ u aerjɛ̃/ but can be nevertheless easily pronounced by any native French person.
Here is another one that could technically be heard in a primary school:
Haie a un A, un I et un E et eau a un E un A et un U qui se suivent.
/ɛ a œ̃ a œ̃ i e œ̃ ə e o a œ̃ ə œ̃ a œ̃ y kisəsɥiv/
Nineteen phonetic vowels...
I mean, that is absolutely horrifying! in Hungarian, we have words like "fiaiéié" (vowel-collision) or "megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért" (too long word) but these ones with their own special pronounciations are the worst!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
1
actually, this is the best answer I have ever got on any SE site. it made me laugh so hard. thank you!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
It seems Hungarian can even coin fiaiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiért ... ;-)
– jlliagre
2 hours ago
yes, but it is something that will never be said.
– Marcus
2 hours ago
add a comment |
There is usually a very slight pause between fin and à un conflit but all these vowels might be also pronounced in a row.
In poetry, hiatus tend to be avoided but in regular prose/speech, French has no problem with successive vowels, whether nasalized or not.
For example, the sentence:
Tu as en haut un houx aérien.
has eight successive phonetic vowels /ty a ɑ̃ o œ̃ u aerjɛ̃/ but can be nevertheless easily pronounced by any native French person.
Here is another one that could technically be heard in a primary school:
Haie a un A, un I et un E et eau a un E un A et un U qui se suivent.
/ɛ a œ̃ a œ̃ i e œ̃ ə e o a œ̃ ə œ̃ a œ̃ y kisəsɥiv/
Nineteen phonetic vowels...
There is usually a very slight pause between fin and à un conflit but all these vowels might be also pronounced in a row.
In poetry, hiatus tend to be avoided but in regular prose/speech, French has no problem with successive vowels, whether nasalized or not.
For example, the sentence:
Tu as en haut un houx aérien.
has eight successive phonetic vowels /ty a ɑ̃ o œ̃ u aerjɛ̃/ but can be nevertheless easily pronounced by any native French person.
Here is another one that could technically be heard in a primary school:
Haie a un A, un I et un E et eau a un E un A et un U qui se suivent.
/ɛ a œ̃ a œ̃ i e œ̃ ə e o a œ̃ ə œ̃ a œ̃ y kisəsɥiv/
Nineteen phonetic vowels...
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I mean, that is absolutely horrifying! in Hungarian, we have words like "fiaiéié" (vowel-collision) or "megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért" (too long word) but these ones with their own special pronounciations are the worst!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
1
actually, this is the best answer I have ever got on any SE site. it made me laugh so hard. thank you!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
It seems Hungarian can even coin fiaiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiért ... ;-)
– jlliagre
2 hours ago
yes, but it is something that will never be said.
– Marcus
2 hours ago
add a comment |
I mean, that is absolutely horrifying! in Hungarian, we have words like "fiaiéié" (vowel-collision) or "megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért" (too long word) but these ones with their own special pronounciations are the worst!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
1
actually, this is the best answer I have ever got on any SE site. it made me laugh so hard. thank you!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
It seems Hungarian can even coin fiaiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiért ... ;-)
– jlliagre
2 hours ago
yes, but it is something that will never be said.
– Marcus
2 hours ago
I mean, that is absolutely horrifying! in Hungarian, we have words like "fiaiéié" (vowel-collision) or "megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért" (too long word) but these ones with their own special pronounciations are the worst!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
I mean, that is absolutely horrifying! in Hungarian, we have words like "fiaiéié" (vowel-collision) or "megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért" (too long word) but these ones with their own special pronounciations are the worst!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
1
1
actually, this is the best answer I have ever got on any SE site. it made me laugh so hard. thank you!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
actually, this is the best answer I have ever got on any SE site. it made me laugh so hard. thank you!
– Marcus
3 hours ago
It seems Hungarian can even coin fiaiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiért ... ;-)
– jlliagre
2 hours ago
It seems Hungarian can even coin fiaiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiéiért ... ;-)
– jlliagre
2 hours ago
yes, but it is something that will never be said.
– Marcus
2 hours ago
yes, but it is something that will never be said.
– Marcus
2 hours ago
add a comment |
You can't pronounce that too fast; use the indicated sounds, taking care to pronounce each nasal vowel fully so as to avoid blurred sounds; it's difficult for natives too as the usual distribution of sounds in French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.
There is no other way, no adition of phantom consonants, no fusion.
1
That would be great to add some reference regarding the statement: “French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.” It is a first for me, and I could probably find hundreds of individual words that have two vowel sounds in a row.
– Montée de lait
5 hours ago
@Montéedelait True, it would be better if this statement were supplemented with a reference; unfortunately, I can't get back at the source where I got that. Anyway, that's mostly true and the theory of liaisons is such that it tends to introduce these missing consonants between words (un navion, deux zétangs, …).
– LPH
5 hours ago
add a comment |
You can't pronounce that too fast; use the indicated sounds, taking care to pronounce each nasal vowel fully so as to avoid blurred sounds; it's difficult for natives too as the usual distribution of sounds in French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.
There is no other way, no adition of phantom consonants, no fusion.
1
That would be great to add some reference regarding the statement: “French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.” It is a first for me, and I could probably find hundreds of individual words that have two vowel sounds in a row.
– Montée de lait
5 hours ago
@Montéedelait True, it would be better if this statement were supplemented with a reference; unfortunately, I can't get back at the source where I got that. Anyway, that's mostly true and the theory of liaisons is such that it tends to introduce these missing consonants between words (un navion, deux zétangs, …).
– LPH
5 hours ago
add a comment |
You can't pronounce that too fast; use the indicated sounds, taking care to pronounce each nasal vowel fully so as to avoid blurred sounds; it's difficult for natives too as the usual distribution of sounds in French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.
There is no other way, no adition of phantom consonants, no fusion.
You can't pronounce that too fast; use the indicated sounds, taking care to pronounce each nasal vowel fully so as to avoid blurred sounds; it's difficult for natives too as the usual distribution of sounds in French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.
There is no other way, no adition of phantom consonants, no fusion.
answered 8 hours ago
LPHLPH
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13.8k1630
1
That would be great to add some reference regarding the statement: “French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.” It is a first for me, and I could probably find hundreds of individual words that have two vowel sounds in a row.
– Montée de lait
5 hours ago
@Montéedelait True, it would be better if this statement were supplemented with a reference; unfortunately, I can't get back at the source where I got that. Anyway, that's mostly true and the theory of liaisons is such that it tends to introduce these missing consonants between words (un navion, deux zétangs, …).
– LPH
5 hours ago
add a comment |
1
That would be great to add some reference regarding the statement: “French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.” It is a first for me, and I could probably find hundreds of individual words that have two vowel sounds in a row.
– Montée de lait
5 hours ago
@Montéedelait True, it would be better if this statement were supplemented with a reference; unfortunately, I can't get back at the source where I got that. Anyway, that's mostly true and the theory of liaisons is such that it tends to introduce these missing consonants between words (un navion, deux zétangs, …).
– LPH
5 hours ago
1
1
That would be great to add some reference regarding the statement: “French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.” It is a first for me, and I could probably find hundreds of individual words that have two vowel sounds in a row.
– Montée de lait
5 hours ago
That would be great to add some reference regarding the statement: “French is based on the principle of having a consonant sound between any two vowel sounds.” It is a first for me, and I could probably find hundreds of individual words that have two vowel sounds in a row.
– Montée de lait
5 hours ago
@Montéedelait True, it would be better if this statement were supplemented with a reference; unfortunately, I can't get back at the source where I got that. Anyway, that's mostly true and the theory of liaisons is such that it tends to introduce these missing consonants between words (un navion, deux zétangs, …).
– LPH
5 hours ago
@Montéedelait True, it would be better if this statement were supplemented with a reference; unfortunately, I can't get back at the source where I got that. Anyway, that's mostly true and the theory of liaisons is such that it tends to introduce these missing consonants between words (un navion, deux zétangs, …).
– LPH
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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