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The Coriolis effect on a ring-shaped space station gets the most attention, but disregarding that, would the rotation of the starfield be too disorienting?

A 1km radius station at 1G simulated gravity rotates just under once a minute. That's pretty damn fast. The starfield in your vision would be rushing around constantly. Even doubling the radius, that's still 1.5 minutes.

Edit: I am specifically imagining seeing the starfield through the "ceiling" exclusively, for what it's worth.

Would people be able to adapt to that or would it always be difficult, or flat out too difficult to live with?

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  I imagine the most disorientating (imho) aspect would be seeing the curvature. I feel like (not sure) your brain would be saying: "Hey we are climbing." but your body wouldn't be experiencing resistance... perhaps I am overthinking it.
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The Coriolis effect on a ring-shaped space station gets the most attention, but disregarding that, would the rotation of the starfield be too disorienting?

A 1km radius station at 1G simulated gravity rotates just under once a minute. That's pretty damn fast. The starfield in your vision would be rushing around constantly. Even doubling the radius, that's still 1.5 minutes.

Edit: I am specifically imagining seeing the starfield through the "ceiling" exclusively, for what it's worth.

Would people be able to adapt to that or would it always be difficult, or flat out too difficult to live with?

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The Coriolis effect on a ring-shaped space station gets the most attention, but disregarding that, would the rotation of the starfield be too disorienting?

A 1km radius station at 1G simulated gravity rotates just under once a minute. That's pretty damn fast. The starfield in your vision would be rushing around constantly. Even doubling the radius, that's still 1.5 minutes.

Edit: I am specifically imagining seeing the starfield through the "ceiling" exclusively, for what it's worth.

Would people be able to adapt to that or would it always be difficult, or flat out too difficult to live with?

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They would be fine. The simulated gravity would keep the occupant's feet pointing outward, so they would have to look down while standing on a window to see the stars rushing past.

That is assuming you even have windows on your outer ring surface, which would pose a significant risk compared to a having reinforced hull. It would be easier and probably cheaper to have cameras mounted outside "live streaming" the view of space to monitors to act as windows.

Watch this timelapse from the ISS's perspective to see if that bothers you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18UEqn5Yw4

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  Thanks for that video, that's a great reference point. I was specifically thinking of glass "ceilings" (the interior surface of the ring). So I guess it'd only be particularly visible when you look straight up.
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  A glass ceiling would come with some other oddities, like being able to look "forward" or up-spin of the ring and see the rest of the station curling up ahead of you. I still posit that the logistics and risk of using any transparent material on your outer hull is a bad idea. If you must spare no expense and go with a transparent metal ceiling, at least take solace in the fact that occupants will be screened for motion sickness sensitivity before being launched into space.
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I imagine it would be, at the worst, like riding in a car. The outside whips by, but it's mostly just there. People get used to almost anything pretty quickly.

If the station's engineers were concerned about that they'd probably remove all the non-essential windows (which would also improve structural integrity) and have monitors showing a stabilized outside pasted to the walls instead.

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They would be fine. The simulated gravity would keep the occupant's feet pointing outward, so they would have to look down while standing on a window to see the stars rushing past.

That is assuming you even have windows on your outer ring surface, which would pose a significant risk compared to a having reinforced hull. It would be easier and probably cheaper to have cameras mounted outside "live streaming" the view of space to monitors to act as windows.

Watch this timelapse from the ISS's perspective to see if that bothers you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18UEqn5Yw4

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  Thanks for that video, that's a great reference point. I was specifically thinking of glass "ceilings" (the interior surface of the ring). So I guess it'd only be particularly visible when you look straight up.
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  A glass ceiling would come with some other oddities, like being able to look "forward" or up-spin of the ring and see the rest of the station curling up ahead of you. I still posit that the logistics and risk of using any transparent material on your outer hull is a bad idea. If you must spare no expense and go with a transparent metal ceiling, at least take solace in the fact that occupants will be screened for motion sickness sensitivity before being launched into space.
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They would be fine. The simulated gravity would keep the occupant's feet pointing outward, so they would have to look down while standing on a window to see the stars rushing past.

That is assuming you even have windows on your outer ring surface, which would pose a significant risk compared to a having reinforced hull. It would be easier and probably cheaper to have cameras mounted outside "live streaming" the view of space to monitors to act as windows.

Watch this timelapse from the ISS's perspective to see if that bothers you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18UEqn5Yw4

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  Thanks for that video, that's a great reference point. I was specifically thinking of glass "ceilings" (the interior surface of the ring). So I guess it'd only be particularly visible when you look straight up.
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  A glass ceiling would come with some other oddities, like being able to look "forward" or up-spin of the ring and see the rest of the station curling up ahead of you. I still posit that the logistics and risk of using any transparent material on your outer hull is a bad idea. If you must spare no expense and go with a transparent metal ceiling, at least take solace in the fact that occupants will be screened for motion sickness sensitivity before being launched into space.
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They would be fine. The simulated gravity would keep the occupant's feet pointing outward, so they would have to look down while standing on a window to see the stars rushing past.

That is assuming you even have windows on your outer ring surface, which would pose a significant risk compared to a having reinforced hull. It would be easier and probably cheaper to have cameras mounted outside "live streaming" the view of space to monitors to act as windows.

Watch this timelapse from the ISS's perspective to see if that bothers you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B18UEqn5Yw4

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I imagine it would be, at the worst, like riding in a car. The outside whips by, but it's mostly just there. People get used to almost anything pretty quickly.

If the station's engineers were concerned about that they'd probably remove all the non-essential windows (which would also improve structural integrity) and have monitors showing a stabilized outside pasted to the walls instead.

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I imagine it would be, at the worst, like riding in a car. The outside whips by, but it's mostly just there. People get used to almost anything pretty quickly.

If the station's engineers were concerned about that they'd probably remove all the non-essential windows (which would also improve structural integrity) and have monitors showing a stabilized outside pasted to the walls instead.

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I imagine it would be, at the worst, like riding in a car. The outside whips by, but it's mostly just there. People get used to almost anything pretty quickly.

If the station's engineers were concerned about that they'd probably remove all the non-essential windows (which would also improve structural integrity) and have monitors showing a stabilized outside pasted to the walls instead.

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