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Search for military installed backdoors on laptopWhat useful security reports can be extracted from a Windows-based machine and its related logs?How do you explain the necessity of “nuke it from orbit” to management and users?How can I restore my Windows certificate cache so I only have those from trusted CAs?What is the risk of copy and pasting Linux commands from a website? How can some commands be invisible?question about clean reinstallation of infected windows 7 (nuke from orbit approach)How can I make sure if my computer is infected and know if I have to nuke it from orbit?






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If there are places on a laptop malicious programs can leave elements, hooks, back doors etc, in locations such as BIOS, device controllers, firmware etc - what confidence can one have in wiping the disk and installing a fresh os image.



If I were to first use data destruction software to overwrite every individually addressable location on the hard disk, before secondly installing a freshly downloaded Windows image, this presumably isn’t much of a solution.



Surely, binning and buying a replacement is the only option? (Which would be dire, since the machine is new)










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If there are places on a laptop malicious programs can leave elements, hooks, back doors etc, in locations such as BIOS, device controllers, firmware etc - what confidence can one have in wiping the disk and installing a fresh os image.



If I were to first use data destruction software to overwrite every individually addressable location on the hard disk, before secondly installing a freshly downloaded Windows image, this presumably isn’t much of a solution.



Surely, binning and buying a replacement is the only option? (Which would be dire, since the machine is new)










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If there are places on a laptop malicious programs can leave elements, hooks, back doors etc, in locations such as BIOS, device controllers, firmware etc - what confidence can one have in wiping the disk and installing a fresh os image.



If I were to first use data destruction software to overwrite every individually addressable location on the hard disk, before secondly installing a freshly downloaded Windows image, this presumably isn’t much of a solution.



Surely, binning and buying a replacement is the only option? (Which would be dire, since the machine is new)










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If there are places on a laptop malicious programs can leave elements, hooks, back doors etc, in locations such as BIOS, device controllers, firmware etc - what confidence can one have in wiping the disk and installing a fresh os image.



If I were to first use data destruction software to overwrite every individually addressable location on the hard disk, before secondly installing a freshly downloaded Windows image, this presumably isn’t much of a solution.



Surely, binning and buying a replacement is the only option? (Which would be dire, since the machine is new)







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You must do risk management. How likely it is that you and your laptop have been personally targeted? The vast majority of persistent malware operates entirely in software, and formatting the disk is more than enough to remove all traces of it. Sophisticated, firmware-resident malware is extremely rare and unlikely to be a threat unless you have particular reason to think that you are at risk. It is possible to check for firmware-level malware, but it requires a good understanding of common x86 architecture, and access to hardware to read from the flash chips. At a minimum, you'd need SPI readers for the BIOS/UEFI, and JTAG probes for the hard drive firmware and related.



If you don't have any reason to think you're being targeted, just format and re-install.






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    You must do risk management. How likely it is that you and your laptop have been personally targeted? The vast majority of persistent malware operates entirely in software, and formatting the disk is more than enough to remove all traces of it. Sophisticated, firmware-resident malware is extremely rare and unlikely to be a threat unless you have particular reason to think that you are at risk. It is possible to check for firmware-level malware, but it requires a good understanding of common x86 architecture, and access to hardware to read from the flash chips. At a minimum, you'd need SPI readers for the BIOS/UEFI, and JTAG probes for the hard drive firmware and related.



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      You must do risk management. How likely it is that you and your laptop have been personally targeted? The vast majority of persistent malware operates entirely in software, and formatting the disk is more than enough to remove all traces of it. Sophisticated, firmware-resident malware is extremely rare and unlikely to be a threat unless you have particular reason to think that you are at risk. It is possible to check for firmware-level malware, but it requires a good understanding of common x86 architecture, and access to hardware to read from the flash chips. At a minimum, you'd need SPI readers for the BIOS/UEFI, and JTAG probes for the hard drive firmware and related.



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        You must do risk management. How likely it is that you and your laptop have been personally targeted? The vast majority of persistent malware operates entirely in software, and formatting the disk is more than enough to remove all traces of it. Sophisticated, firmware-resident malware is extremely rare and unlikely to be a threat unless you have particular reason to think that you are at risk. It is possible to check for firmware-level malware, but it requires a good understanding of common x86 architecture, and access to hardware to read from the flash chips. At a minimum, you'd need SPI readers for the BIOS/UEFI, and JTAG probes for the hard drive firmware and related.



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        You must do risk management. How likely it is that you and your laptop have been personally targeted? The vast majority of persistent malware operates entirely in software, and formatting the disk is more than enough to remove all traces of it. Sophisticated, firmware-resident malware is extremely rare and unlikely to be a threat unless you have particular reason to think that you are at risk. It is possible to check for firmware-level malware, but it requires a good understanding of common x86 architecture, and access to hardware to read from the flash chips. At a minimum, you'd need SPI readers for the BIOS/UEFI, and JTAG probes for the hard drive firmware and related.



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