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Is it rude to call a professor by their last name with no prefix in a non-academic setting?
Why are the German professors addressed as Prof. Dr. XXX?How do you address unknown peers in email?Is it acceptable for me (an undergrad) to call professors and other research professionals by their first names?Would it be rude to put my professor's name in for a reference when they haven't responded yet?How should a new professor sign their name in emails to students?Is it okay to address “Prof. X” as “Mr. X”?How should staff address non-doctorate professors?Addressing a professor - culture clashAppropriate way to thank a professor towards the end of the semesterHow do I address a colleague in an 3-way email with a student?
I always address my professors as "Professor [Last Name]" in an academic setting. However, in an non-academic setting such as running into them out and about, would it be considered rude to say "Hi [Last Name]!" to greet them?
Would it be better to address them by their first name even if you have never used it before, or always prefix their last name with Professor?
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I always address my professors as "Professor [Last Name]" in an academic setting. However, in an non-academic setting such as running into them out and about, would it be considered rude to say "Hi [Last Name]!" to greet them?
Would it be better to address them by their first name even if you have never used it before, or always prefix their last name with Professor?
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What part of the world are you in? To my ear (in the US), I would find it less offensive and more bizarre or confusing.
– cag51
1 hour ago
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@cag51 Agree on this. Under what conditions in the US do we call someone by just their surname? The military? A high school coach yelling at a player? Hangin' with the brothers on the street? Certainly not in most university settings.
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
@cag51 I am in California. I have heard students refer to professors by just their last name to their face in an academic setting even. I thought it sounded weird so I wanted to see what the consensus was.
– evildoesit
59 mins ago
Growing up as an identical twin, I realized at some point that people who called me by my last name only couldn't tell the difference between my twin and myself. I wouldn't call it offensive, but I found it odd. Just another example of when people find it appropriate to call others by their surname...
– Ben Trettel
11 mins ago
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I always address my professors as "Professor [Last Name]" in an academic setting. However, in an non-academic setting such as running into them out and about, would it be considered rude to say "Hi [Last Name]!" to greet them?
Would it be better to address them by their first name even if you have never used it before, or always prefix their last name with Professor?
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I always address my professors as "Professor [Last Name]" in an academic setting. However, in an non-academic setting such as running into them out and about, would it be considered rude to say "Hi [Last Name]!" to greet them?
Would it be better to address them by their first name even if you have never used it before, or always prefix their last name with Professor?
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What part of the world are you in? To my ear (in the US), I would find it less offensive and more bizarre or confusing.
– cag51
1 hour ago
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@cag51 Agree on this. Under what conditions in the US do we call someone by just their surname? The military? A high school coach yelling at a player? Hangin' with the brothers on the street? Certainly not in most university settings.
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
@cag51 I am in California. I have heard students refer to professors by just their last name to their face in an academic setting even. I thought it sounded weird so I wanted to see what the consensus was.
– evildoesit
59 mins ago
Growing up as an identical twin, I realized at some point that people who called me by my last name only couldn't tell the difference between my twin and myself. I wouldn't call it offensive, but I found it odd. Just another example of when people find it appropriate to call others by their surname...
– Ben Trettel
11 mins ago
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What part of the world are you in? To my ear (in the US), I would find it less offensive and more bizarre or confusing.
– cag51
1 hour ago
2
@cag51 Agree on this. Under what conditions in the US do we call someone by just their surname? The military? A high school coach yelling at a player? Hangin' with the brothers on the street? Certainly not in most university settings.
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
@cag51 I am in California. I have heard students refer to professors by just their last name to their face in an academic setting even. I thought it sounded weird so I wanted to see what the consensus was.
– evildoesit
59 mins ago
Growing up as an identical twin, I realized at some point that people who called me by my last name only couldn't tell the difference between my twin and myself. I wouldn't call it offensive, but I found it odd. Just another example of when people find it appropriate to call others by their surname...
– Ben Trettel
11 mins ago
1
1
What part of the world are you in? To my ear (in the US), I would find it less offensive and more bizarre or confusing.
– cag51
1 hour ago
What part of the world are you in? To my ear (in the US), I would find it less offensive and more bizarre or confusing.
– cag51
1 hour ago
2
2
@cag51 Agree on this. Under what conditions in the US do we call someone by just their surname? The military? A high school coach yelling at a player? Hangin' with the brothers on the street? Certainly not in most university settings.
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
@cag51 Agree on this. Under what conditions in the US do we call someone by just their surname? The military? A high school coach yelling at a player? Hangin' with the brothers on the street? Certainly not in most university settings.
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
@cag51 I am in California. I have heard students refer to professors by just their last name to their face in an academic setting even. I thought it sounded weird so I wanted to see what the consensus was.
– evildoesit
59 mins ago
@cag51 I am in California. I have heard students refer to professors by just their last name to their face in an academic setting even. I thought it sounded weird so I wanted to see what the consensus was.
– evildoesit
59 mins ago
Growing up as an identical twin, I realized at some point that people who called me by my last name only couldn't tell the difference between my twin and myself. I wouldn't call it offensive, but I found it odd. Just another example of when people find it appropriate to call others by their surname...
– Ben Trettel
11 mins ago
Growing up as an identical twin, I realized at some point that people who called me by my last name only couldn't tell the difference between my twin and myself. I wouldn't call it offensive, but I found it odd. Just another example of when people find it appropriate to call others by their surname...
– Ben Trettel
11 mins ago
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Would it be rude if I called you by your surname only?
It depends.
How well do I know you? What is our relationship? Is there a significant age gap between us? Are we in a fraternity or the military?
As a student, I never once called a professor by only their surname when speaking to their face, formally or otherwise. They were always older than me (even if just by a few years) and we never had such an informal relationship that surname alone seemed appropriate.
I did call some professors by just their given name. This was usually when they specifically requested it or when I knew them quite well. As I rose higher through the ranks in academia
(freshman -> sophomore -> ..... -> graduate student -> PhD candidate....)
calling professors by their given name became more common.
I'm sure there could be some professors that would be fine with being called by their surname alone. Most would not be, however. This is not unique to academia. Most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname by 18 year old kids. Even when I was a 25 year old graduate student, I'll admit that it would sort of bother me if students called me by only my surname (even outside of class). We weren't in the army or something. Just call me by my first name.
Obviously saying something like "I had combinatorics from Levenworth and topology from Kostanza" when speaking to fellow students is a different story. There's no need to worry about offending someone when referring to them by surname alone when they are not there.
+1 “most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname.” My professor said that, in general, professors aged 50+ are a lot more likely to care about their proper title being used than those from a younger generation.
– Kevin Miller
1 hour ago
@KevinMiller Over time, these things may soften, too. I was born in the 1980s (so I'm not "old") and there is a very small collection of people whom I would allow to call me by my last name. But I was okay with students calling me by my first name when I taught. Even now, as a "doctor," (PhD) I think it's funny when people call me "Dr. XXXXXXXXX"
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
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In the U.S., in this year, at my age, I would be surprised if anyone addressed me by my surname. But that is a very different thing from reference to my work, where I'd mostly expect people to say "Garrett, [year]", or something similar. Still, in an in-house situation, to hear a speaker say "Paul's work..." would not be jarring, and might be more congenial than "Garrett's work...".
... although the times that a speaker has said "Garrett's work" and waved to me in the audience were perfectly fine.
I guess some nod of respect is the only substantive point, and this is dependant on the local culture... for which there is no clean algorithm.
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As Vladhagen’s answer suggests, this question is highly dependent on the relationship you have with the professor.
As a general rule, I try to match the level of formality that I see from a professor. For example, if a professor signs emails to me with just their first name, then I respond using their first name in an email. If I see them in person at this point, I think it would be fine to use the first name (but I typically do not). When in doubt, always err on the side of formality.
If you have never used their first name (or if they have never indicated that using their first name in an academic setting is appropriate), then I would not recommend using it if you see them out and about. This could create a potentially uncomfortable dynamic, especially if other students do not refer to them by first name.
As a grad student, one of my professors has indicated that they are perfectly fine with students addressing them by first name only. I would personally prefer to be more formal, but since my relationship with this professor is very casual and friendly (and it would almost be weird to say “Dr. X” or “Professor X” at this point), I’ve adopted a middle ground of omitting the title and only calling them “last name” in both academic and non-academic situations. It is important to note, though, that they are a younger professor.
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I wouldn’t find it rude, but I would find it weird. I can’t think of any situation where you wouldn’t be better off using a first name instead of a last name without a title. If you’re going to be formal do it right, and if you’re going to be informal use first name. We’re not on a football team or in the military.
(It’s of course totally fine and normal students talking to each other without the professor present, to just use last name and no title.)
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Would it be rude if I called you by your surname only?
It depends.
How well do I know you? What is our relationship? Is there a significant age gap between us? Are we in a fraternity or the military?
As a student, I never once called a professor by only their surname when speaking to their face, formally or otherwise. They were always older than me (even if just by a few years) and we never had such an informal relationship that surname alone seemed appropriate.
I did call some professors by just their given name. This was usually when they specifically requested it or when I knew them quite well. As I rose higher through the ranks in academia
(freshman -> sophomore -> ..... -> graduate student -> PhD candidate....)
calling professors by their given name became more common.
I'm sure there could be some professors that would be fine with being called by their surname alone. Most would not be, however. This is not unique to academia. Most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname by 18 year old kids. Even when I was a 25 year old graduate student, I'll admit that it would sort of bother me if students called me by only my surname (even outside of class). We weren't in the army or something. Just call me by my first name.
Obviously saying something like "I had combinatorics from Levenworth and topology from Kostanza" when speaking to fellow students is a different story. There's no need to worry about offending someone when referring to them by surname alone when they are not there.
+1 “most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname.” My professor said that, in general, professors aged 50+ are a lot more likely to care about their proper title being used than those from a younger generation.
– Kevin Miller
1 hour ago
@KevinMiller Over time, these things may soften, too. I was born in the 1980s (so I'm not "old") and there is a very small collection of people whom I would allow to call me by my last name. But I was okay with students calling me by my first name when I taught. Even now, as a "doctor," (PhD) I think it's funny when people call me "Dr. XXXXXXXXX"
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Would it be rude if I called you by your surname only?
It depends.
How well do I know you? What is our relationship? Is there a significant age gap between us? Are we in a fraternity or the military?
As a student, I never once called a professor by only their surname when speaking to their face, formally or otherwise. They were always older than me (even if just by a few years) and we never had such an informal relationship that surname alone seemed appropriate.
I did call some professors by just their given name. This was usually when they specifically requested it or when I knew them quite well. As I rose higher through the ranks in academia
(freshman -> sophomore -> ..... -> graduate student -> PhD candidate....)
calling professors by their given name became more common.
I'm sure there could be some professors that would be fine with being called by their surname alone. Most would not be, however. This is not unique to academia. Most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname by 18 year old kids. Even when I was a 25 year old graduate student, I'll admit that it would sort of bother me if students called me by only my surname (even outside of class). We weren't in the army or something. Just call me by my first name.
Obviously saying something like "I had combinatorics from Levenworth and topology from Kostanza" when speaking to fellow students is a different story. There's no need to worry about offending someone when referring to them by surname alone when they are not there.
+1 “most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname.” My professor said that, in general, professors aged 50+ are a lot more likely to care about their proper title being used than those from a younger generation.
– Kevin Miller
1 hour ago
@KevinMiller Over time, these things may soften, too. I was born in the 1980s (so I'm not "old") and there is a very small collection of people whom I would allow to call me by my last name. But I was okay with students calling me by my first name when I taught. Even now, as a "doctor," (PhD) I think it's funny when people call me "Dr. XXXXXXXXX"
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Would it be rude if I called you by your surname only?
It depends.
How well do I know you? What is our relationship? Is there a significant age gap between us? Are we in a fraternity or the military?
As a student, I never once called a professor by only their surname when speaking to their face, formally or otherwise. They were always older than me (even if just by a few years) and we never had such an informal relationship that surname alone seemed appropriate.
I did call some professors by just their given name. This was usually when they specifically requested it or when I knew them quite well. As I rose higher through the ranks in academia
(freshman -> sophomore -> ..... -> graduate student -> PhD candidate....)
calling professors by their given name became more common.
I'm sure there could be some professors that would be fine with being called by their surname alone. Most would not be, however. This is not unique to academia. Most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname by 18 year old kids. Even when I was a 25 year old graduate student, I'll admit that it would sort of bother me if students called me by only my surname (even outside of class). We weren't in the army or something. Just call me by my first name.
Obviously saying something like "I had combinatorics from Levenworth and topology from Kostanza" when speaking to fellow students is a different story. There's no need to worry about offending someone when referring to them by surname alone when they are not there.
Would it be rude if I called you by your surname only?
It depends.
How well do I know you? What is our relationship? Is there a significant age gap between us? Are we in a fraternity or the military?
As a student, I never once called a professor by only their surname when speaking to their face, formally or otherwise. They were always older than me (even if just by a few years) and we never had such an informal relationship that surname alone seemed appropriate.
I did call some professors by just their given name. This was usually when they specifically requested it or when I knew them quite well. As I rose higher through the ranks in academia
(freshman -> sophomore -> ..... -> graduate student -> PhD candidate....)
calling professors by their given name became more common.
I'm sure there could be some professors that would be fine with being called by their surname alone. Most would not be, however. This is not unique to academia. Most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname by 18 year old kids. Even when I was a 25 year old graduate student, I'll admit that it would sort of bother me if students called me by only my surname (even outside of class). We weren't in the army or something. Just call me by my first name.
Obviously saying something like "I had combinatorics from Levenworth and topology from Kostanza" when speaking to fellow students is a different story. There's no need to worry about offending someone when referring to them by surname alone when they are not there.
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+1 “most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname.” My professor said that, in general, professors aged 50+ are a lot more likely to care about their proper title being used than those from a younger generation.
– Kevin Miller
1 hour ago
@KevinMiller Over time, these things may soften, too. I was born in the 1980s (so I'm not "old") and there is a very small collection of people whom I would allow to call me by my last name. But I was okay with students calling me by my first name when I taught. Even now, as a "doctor," (PhD) I think it's funny when people call me "Dr. XXXXXXXXX"
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
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+1 “most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname.” My professor said that, in general, professors aged 50+ are a lot more likely to care about their proper title being used than those from a younger generation.
– Kevin Miller
1 hour ago
@KevinMiller Over time, these things may soften, too. I was born in the 1980s (so I'm not "old") and there is a very small collection of people whom I would allow to call me by my last name. But I was okay with students calling me by my first name when I taught. Even now, as a "doctor," (PhD) I think it's funny when people call me "Dr. XXXXXXXXX"
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
+1 “most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname.” My professor said that, in general, professors aged 50+ are a lot more likely to care about their proper title being used than those from a younger generation.
– Kevin Miller
1 hour ago
+1 “most people in their 40s do not like being called by just their surname.” My professor said that, in general, professors aged 50+ are a lot more likely to care about their proper title being used than those from a younger generation.
– Kevin Miller
1 hour ago
@KevinMiller Over time, these things may soften, too. I was born in the 1980s (so I'm not "old") and there is a very small collection of people whom I would allow to call me by my last name. But I was okay with students calling me by my first name when I taught. Even now, as a "doctor," (PhD) I think it's funny when people call me "Dr. XXXXXXXXX"
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
@KevinMiller Over time, these things may soften, too. I was born in the 1980s (so I'm not "old") and there is a very small collection of people whom I would allow to call me by my last name. But I was okay with students calling me by my first name when I taught. Even now, as a "doctor," (PhD) I think it's funny when people call me "Dr. XXXXXXXXX"
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
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In the U.S., in this year, at my age, I would be surprised if anyone addressed me by my surname. But that is a very different thing from reference to my work, where I'd mostly expect people to say "Garrett, [year]", or something similar. Still, in an in-house situation, to hear a speaker say "Paul's work..." would not be jarring, and might be more congenial than "Garrett's work...".
... although the times that a speaker has said "Garrett's work" and waved to me in the audience were perfectly fine.
I guess some nod of respect is the only substantive point, and this is dependant on the local culture... for which there is no clean algorithm.
add a comment |
In the U.S., in this year, at my age, I would be surprised if anyone addressed me by my surname. But that is a very different thing from reference to my work, where I'd mostly expect people to say "Garrett, [year]", or something similar. Still, in an in-house situation, to hear a speaker say "Paul's work..." would not be jarring, and might be more congenial than "Garrett's work...".
... although the times that a speaker has said "Garrett's work" and waved to me in the audience were perfectly fine.
I guess some nod of respect is the only substantive point, and this is dependant on the local culture... for which there is no clean algorithm.
add a comment |
In the U.S., in this year, at my age, I would be surprised if anyone addressed me by my surname. But that is a very different thing from reference to my work, where I'd mostly expect people to say "Garrett, [year]", or something similar. Still, in an in-house situation, to hear a speaker say "Paul's work..." would not be jarring, and might be more congenial than "Garrett's work...".
... although the times that a speaker has said "Garrett's work" and waved to me in the audience were perfectly fine.
I guess some nod of respect is the only substantive point, and this is dependant on the local culture... for which there is no clean algorithm.
In the U.S., in this year, at my age, I would be surprised if anyone addressed me by my surname. But that is a very different thing from reference to my work, where I'd mostly expect people to say "Garrett, [year]", or something similar. Still, in an in-house situation, to hear a speaker say "Paul's work..." would not be jarring, and might be more congenial than "Garrett's work...".
... although the times that a speaker has said "Garrett's work" and waved to me in the audience were perfectly fine.
I guess some nod of respect is the only substantive point, and this is dependant on the local culture... for which there is no clean algorithm.
answered 1 hour ago
paul garrettpaul garrett
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As Vladhagen’s answer suggests, this question is highly dependent on the relationship you have with the professor.
As a general rule, I try to match the level of formality that I see from a professor. For example, if a professor signs emails to me with just their first name, then I respond using their first name in an email. If I see them in person at this point, I think it would be fine to use the first name (but I typically do not). When in doubt, always err on the side of formality.
If you have never used their first name (or if they have never indicated that using their first name in an academic setting is appropriate), then I would not recommend using it if you see them out and about. This could create a potentially uncomfortable dynamic, especially if other students do not refer to them by first name.
As a grad student, one of my professors has indicated that they are perfectly fine with students addressing them by first name only. I would personally prefer to be more formal, but since my relationship with this professor is very casual and friendly (and it would almost be weird to say “Dr. X” or “Professor X” at this point), I’ve adopted a middle ground of omitting the title and only calling them “last name” in both academic and non-academic situations. It is important to note, though, that they are a younger professor.
add a comment |
As Vladhagen’s answer suggests, this question is highly dependent on the relationship you have with the professor.
As a general rule, I try to match the level of formality that I see from a professor. For example, if a professor signs emails to me with just their first name, then I respond using their first name in an email. If I see them in person at this point, I think it would be fine to use the first name (but I typically do not). When in doubt, always err on the side of formality.
If you have never used their first name (or if they have never indicated that using their first name in an academic setting is appropriate), then I would not recommend using it if you see them out and about. This could create a potentially uncomfortable dynamic, especially if other students do not refer to them by first name.
As a grad student, one of my professors has indicated that they are perfectly fine with students addressing them by first name only. I would personally prefer to be more formal, but since my relationship with this professor is very casual and friendly (and it would almost be weird to say “Dr. X” or “Professor X” at this point), I’ve adopted a middle ground of omitting the title and only calling them “last name” in both academic and non-academic situations. It is important to note, though, that they are a younger professor.
add a comment |
As Vladhagen’s answer suggests, this question is highly dependent on the relationship you have with the professor.
As a general rule, I try to match the level of formality that I see from a professor. For example, if a professor signs emails to me with just their first name, then I respond using their first name in an email. If I see them in person at this point, I think it would be fine to use the first name (but I typically do not). When in doubt, always err on the side of formality.
If you have never used their first name (or if they have never indicated that using their first name in an academic setting is appropriate), then I would not recommend using it if you see them out and about. This could create a potentially uncomfortable dynamic, especially if other students do not refer to them by first name.
As a grad student, one of my professors has indicated that they are perfectly fine with students addressing them by first name only. I would personally prefer to be more formal, but since my relationship with this professor is very casual and friendly (and it would almost be weird to say “Dr. X” or “Professor X” at this point), I’ve adopted a middle ground of omitting the title and only calling them “last name” in both academic and non-academic situations. It is important to note, though, that they are a younger professor.
As Vladhagen’s answer suggests, this question is highly dependent on the relationship you have with the professor.
As a general rule, I try to match the level of formality that I see from a professor. For example, if a professor signs emails to me with just their first name, then I respond using their first name in an email. If I see them in person at this point, I think it would be fine to use the first name (but I typically do not). When in doubt, always err on the side of formality.
If you have never used their first name (or if they have never indicated that using their first name in an academic setting is appropriate), then I would not recommend using it if you see them out and about. This could create a potentially uncomfortable dynamic, especially if other students do not refer to them by first name.
As a grad student, one of my professors has indicated that they are perfectly fine with students addressing them by first name only. I would personally prefer to be more formal, but since my relationship with this professor is very casual and friendly (and it would almost be weird to say “Dr. X” or “Professor X” at this point), I’ve adopted a middle ground of omitting the title and only calling them “last name” in both academic and non-academic situations. It is important to note, though, that they are a younger professor.
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I wouldn’t find it rude, but I would find it weird. I can’t think of any situation where you wouldn’t be better off using a first name instead of a last name without a title. If you’re going to be formal do it right, and if you’re going to be informal use first name. We’re not on a football team or in the military.
(It’s of course totally fine and normal students talking to each other without the professor present, to just use last name and no title.)
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I wouldn’t find it rude, but I would find it weird. I can’t think of any situation where you wouldn’t be better off using a first name instead of a last name without a title. If you’re going to be formal do it right, and if you’re going to be informal use first name. We’re not on a football team or in the military.
(It’s of course totally fine and normal students talking to each other without the professor present, to just use last name and no title.)
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I wouldn’t find it rude, but I would find it weird. I can’t think of any situation where you wouldn’t be better off using a first name instead of a last name without a title. If you’re going to be formal do it right, and if you’re going to be informal use first name. We’re not on a football team or in the military.
(It’s of course totally fine and normal students talking to each other without the professor present, to just use last name and no title.)
I wouldn’t find it rude, but I would find it weird. I can’t think of any situation where you wouldn’t be better off using a first name instead of a last name without a title. If you’re going to be formal do it right, and if you’re going to be informal use first name. We’re not on a football team or in the military.
(It’s of course totally fine and normal students talking to each other without the professor present, to just use last name and no title.)
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What part of the world are you in? To my ear (in the US), I would find it less offensive and more bizarre or confusing.
– cag51
1 hour ago
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@cag51 Agree on this. Under what conditions in the US do we call someone by just their surname? The military? A high school coach yelling at a player? Hangin' with the brothers on the street? Certainly not in most university settings.
– Vladhagen
1 hour ago
@cag51 I am in California. I have heard students refer to professors by just their last name to their face in an academic setting even. I thought it sounded weird so I wanted to see what the consensus was.
– evildoesit
59 mins ago
Growing up as an identical twin, I realized at some point that people who called me by my last name only couldn't tell the difference between my twin and myself. I wouldn't call it offensive, but I found it odd. Just another example of when people find it appropriate to call others by their surname...
– Ben Trettel
11 mins ago