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The text Backte oder buk, haute oder hieb? - Schwache oder starke Flexion by Jacqueline Kubczak (published in Sprachreport, Jg. 32 (2016), H. 4, S. 24-31) goes into great detail about backte vs. buk. Quoting its gist:




Die Formen buk/buken sind im heutigen geschriebenen Deutsch noch lebendig. Man findet sie nicht nur in literarischen, sondern auch in eher umgangssprachlich geschriebenen Texten. In der alltäglichen gesprochenen Sprache muten die starken Formen von backen aber doch altmodisch oder gestelzt an.




So, apart from the fact that buk is considered archaic in some contexts there is no difference in meaning.






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    "buk" is just an archaic form of "backte", both are past tense of "backen"



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      For those verbs which have both a strong and a weak Präteritum form, there is generally no difference in meaning. That's true for backen et al.



      Be careful however, as there are a lot of verbs which have very similar cousins:




      liegen, es lag, gelegen



      legen, es legte, gelegt



      lügen, es log, gelogen



      lugen, es lugte, gelugt



      laugen, es laugte, gelaugt (auslaugen and entlaugen are meaningful)




      For such verbs, you may misidentify the weak form as a modern replacement of the strong form, when it's actually two different verbs. The legen←→liegen misinterpretation is especially common as those verbs mean a very similar thing.






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        The text Backte oder buk, haute oder hieb? - Schwache oder starke Flexion by Jacqueline Kubczak (published in Sprachreport, Jg. 32 (2016), H. 4, S. 24-31) goes into great detail about backte vs. buk. Quoting its gist:




        Die Formen buk/buken sind im heutigen geschriebenen Deutsch noch lebendig. Man findet sie nicht nur in literarischen, sondern auch in eher umgangssprachlich geschriebenen Texten. In der alltäglichen gesprochenen Sprache muten die starken Formen von backen aber doch altmodisch oder gestelzt an.




        So, apart from the fact that buk is considered archaic in some contexts there is no difference in meaning.






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          The text Backte oder buk, haute oder hieb? - Schwache oder starke Flexion by Jacqueline Kubczak (published in Sprachreport, Jg. 32 (2016), H. 4, S. 24-31) goes into great detail about backte vs. buk. Quoting its gist:




          Die Formen buk/buken sind im heutigen geschriebenen Deutsch noch lebendig. Man findet sie nicht nur in literarischen, sondern auch in eher umgangssprachlich geschriebenen Texten. In der alltäglichen gesprochenen Sprache muten die starken Formen von backen aber doch altmodisch oder gestelzt an.




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            The text Backte oder buk, haute oder hieb? - Schwache oder starke Flexion by Jacqueline Kubczak (published in Sprachreport, Jg. 32 (2016), H. 4, S. 24-31) goes into great detail about backte vs. buk. Quoting its gist:




            Die Formen buk/buken sind im heutigen geschriebenen Deutsch noch lebendig. Man findet sie nicht nur in literarischen, sondern auch in eher umgangssprachlich geschriebenen Texten. In der alltäglichen gesprochenen Sprache muten die starken Formen von backen aber doch altmodisch oder gestelzt an.




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            Die Formen buk/buken sind im heutigen geschriebenen Deutsch noch lebendig. Man findet sie nicht nur in literarischen, sondern auch in eher umgangssprachlich geschriebenen Texten. In der alltäglichen gesprochenen Sprache muten die starken Formen von backen aber doch altmodisch oder gestelzt an.




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                        For those verbs which have both a strong and a weak Präteritum form, there is generally no difference in meaning. That's true for backen et al.



                        Be careful however, as there are a lot of verbs which have very similar cousins:




                        liegen, es lag, gelegen



                        legen, es legte, gelegt



                        lügen, es log, gelogen



                        lugen, es lugte, gelugt



                        laugen, es laugte, gelaugt (auslaugen and entlaugen are meaningful)




                        For such verbs, you may misidentify the weak form as a modern replacement of the strong form, when it's actually two different verbs. The legen←→liegen misinterpretation is especially common as those verbs mean a very similar thing.






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                          For those verbs which have both a strong and a weak Präteritum form, there is generally no difference in meaning. That's true for backen et al.



                          Be careful however, as there are a lot of verbs which have very similar cousins:




                          liegen, es lag, gelegen



                          legen, es legte, gelegt



                          lügen, es log, gelogen



                          lugen, es lugte, gelugt



                          laugen, es laugte, gelaugt (auslaugen and entlaugen are meaningful)




                          For such verbs, you may misidentify the weak form as a modern replacement of the strong form, when it's actually two different verbs. The legen←→liegen misinterpretation is especially common as those verbs mean a very similar thing.






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                            For those verbs which have both a strong and a weak Präteritum form, there is generally no difference in meaning. That's true for backen et al.



                            Be careful however, as there are a lot of verbs which have very similar cousins:




                            liegen, es lag, gelegen



                            legen, es legte, gelegt



                            lügen, es log, gelogen



                            lugen, es lugte, gelugt



                            laugen, es laugte, gelaugt (auslaugen and entlaugen are meaningful)




                            For such verbs, you may misidentify the weak form as a modern replacement of the strong form, when it's actually two different verbs. The legen←→liegen misinterpretation is especially common as those verbs mean a very similar thing.






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                            For those verbs which have both a strong and a weak Präteritum form, there is generally no difference in meaning. That's true for backen et al.



                            Be careful however, as there are a lot of verbs which have very similar cousins:




                            liegen, es lag, gelegen



                            legen, es legte, gelegt



                            lügen, es log, gelogen



                            lugen, es lugte, gelugt



                            laugen, es laugte, gelaugt (auslaugen and entlaugen are meaningful)




                            For such verbs, you may misidentify the weak form as a modern replacement of the strong form, when it's actually two different verbs. The legen←→liegen misinterpretation is especially common as those verbs mean a very similar thing.







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