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Can starter be used as an alternator?
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There's probably a legitimate reason why we have 2 different parts for doing 2 different jobs.
However an electric motor can also be used as a generator. If the design allows it, why isn't starter used as an alternator?
alternator starter
asked 9 hours ago
RuslanRuslan
1986 bronze badges
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There's probably a legitimate reason why we have 2 different parts for doing 2 different jobs.
However an electric motor can also be used as a generator. If the design allows it, why isn't starter used as an alternator?
alternator starter
asked 9 hours ago
RuslanRuslan
1986 bronze badges
Really good question! My guess would be it having to do with one working really hard for short periods of time (the starter), and the other just having to work for a long time (the alternator). But I could be wrong!
– Cullub
8 hours ago
I'm not brave enough to post an answer because these 2 car parts seem like they could round down to one, but they can't because they're actually very different. I would suggest reading more about how the ignition system activates a car starter, and then how an alternator actually works vs a dc permanent magnet motor. Thats the only way i could imagine it being one part, is some crazy dc permanent magnet motor that has high torque and wouldn't burn up with high RPMs, or maybe theres gears to modify the RPMs. Honestly it just sounds like a disaster.
– Jeffyx
8 hours ago
@Jeffyx See my answer, these were combined as one unit...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
thats back when cars were not much different than horses :)
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
@Jeffyx yes, but horses did not need a man with a red flag in front...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
add a comment |
There's probably a legitimate reason why we have 2 different parts for doing 2 different jobs.
However an electric motor can also be used as a generator. If the design allows it, why isn't starter used as an alternator?
alternator starter
asked 9 hours ago
RuslanRuslan
1986 bronze badges
There's probably a legitimate reason why we have 2 different parts for doing 2 different jobs.
However an electric motor can also be used as a generator. If the design allows it, why isn't starter used as an alternator?
alternator starter
alternator starter
asked 9 hours ago
RuslanRuslan
1986 bronze badges
asked 9 hours ago
RuslanRuslan
1986 bronze badges
asked 9 hours ago
RuslanRuslan
1986 bronze badges
asked 9 hours ago
RuslanRuslan
1986 bronze badges
asked 9 hours ago
RuslanRuslan
1986 bronze badges
1986 bronze badges
Really good question! My guess would be it having to do with one working really hard for short periods of time (the starter), and the other just having to work for a long time (the alternator). But I could be wrong!
– Cullub
8 hours ago
I'm not brave enough to post an answer because these 2 car parts seem like they could round down to one, but they can't because they're actually very different. I would suggest reading more about how the ignition system activates a car starter, and then how an alternator actually works vs a dc permanent magnet motor. Thats the only way i could imagine it being one part, is some crazy dc permanent magnet motor that has high torque and wouldn't burn up with high RPMs, or maybe theres gears to modify the RPMs. Honestly it just sounds like a disaster.
– Jeffyx
8 hours ago
@Jeffyx See my answer, these were combined as one unit...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
thats back when cars were not much different than horses :)
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
@Jeffyx yes, but horses did not need a man with a red flag in front...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Really good question! My guess would be it having to do with one working really hard for short periods of time (the starter), and the other just having to work for a long time (the alternator). But I could be wrong!
– Cullub
8 hours ago
I'm not brave enough to post an answer because these 2 car parts seem like they could round down to one, but they can't because they're actually very different. I would suggest reading more about how the ignition system activates a car starter, and then how an alternator actually works vs a dc permanent magnet motor. Thats the only way i could imagine it being one part, is some crazy dc permanent magnet motor that has high torque and wouldn't burn up with high RPMs, or maybe theres gears to modify the RPMs. Honestly it just sounds like a disaster.
– Jeffyx
8 hours ago
@Jeffyx See my answer, these were combined as one unit...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
thats back when cars were not much different than horses :)
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
@Jeffyx yes, but horses did not need a man with a red flag in front...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
Really good question! My guess would be it having to do with one working really hard for short periods of time (the starter), and the other just having to work for a long time (the alternator). But I could be wrong!
– Cullub
8 hours ago
Really good question! My guess would be it having to do with one working really hard for short periods of time (the starter), and the other just having to work for a long time (the alternator). But I could be wrong!
– Cullub
8 hours ago
I'm not brave enough to post an answer because these 2 car parts seem like they could round down to one, but they can't because they're actually very different. I would suggest reading more about how the ignition system activates a car starter, and then how an alternator actually works vs a dc permanent magnet motor. Thats the only way i could imagine it being one part, is some crazy dc permanent magnet motor that has high torque and wouldn't burn up with high RPMs, or maybe theres gears to modify the RPMs. Honestly it just sounds like a disaster.
– Jeffyx
8 hours ago
I'm not brave enough to post an answer because these 2 car parts seem like they could round down to one, but they can't because they're actually very different. I would suggest reading more about how the ignition system activates a car starter, and then how an alternator actually works vs a dc permanent magnet motor. Thats the only way i could imagine it being one part, is some crazy dc permanent magnet motor that has high torque and wouldn't burn up with high RPMs, or maybe theres gears to modify the RPMs. Honestly it just sounds like a disaster.
– Jeffyx
8 hours ago
@Jeffyx See my answer, these were combined as one unit...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
@Jeffyx See my answer, these were combined as one unit...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
thats back when cars were not much different than horses :)
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
thats back when cars were not much different than horses :)
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
@Jeffyx yes, but horses did not need a man with a red flag in front...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
@Jeffyx yes, but horses did not need a man with a red flag in front...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
add a comment |
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They were combined many years ago, one was called the Dyna-start (made by Lucas aka the prince of darkness... :) ), other manufacturers were Bosch and Delco.
They fell out of popularity due to the fact that they would do both jobs but increasing demands of power both for the starting function and the generating function increased. More powerful engines needed better starters and more electrical items ie lights etc needed more power.
So, the functions became separated into the units we see now.
Here is a link to more info, as these units are still reconditioned.
answered 8 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
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I knew it someone in history must of tried this lol, pretty interesting that old 2 stroke engines kinda like this starter because they don't take damage when it spins backwards. +1
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
The Bullnose Morris had a Dynastart, but not a 2 stroke engine...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
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They were combined many years ago, one was called the Dyna-start (made by Lucas aka the prince of darkness... :) ), other manufacturers were Bosch and Delco.
They fell out of popularity due to the fact that they would do both jobs but increasing demands of power both for the starting function and the generating function increased. More powerful engines needed better starters and more electrical items ie lights etc needed more power.
So, the functions became separated into the units we see now.
Here is a link to more info, as these units are still reconditioned.
answered 8 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
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I knew it someone in history must of tried this lol, pretty interesting that old 2 stroke engines kinda like this starter because they don't take damage when it spins backwards. +1
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
The Bullnose Morris had a Dynastart, but not a 2 stroke engine...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
add a comment |
They were combined many years ago, one was called the Dyna-start (made by Lucas aka the prince of darkness... :) ), other manufacturers were Bosch and Delco.
They fell out of popularity due to the fact that they would do both jobs but increasing demands of power both for the starting function and the generating function increased. More powerful engines needed better starters and more electrical items ie lights etc needed more power.
So, the functions became separated into the units we see now.
Here is a link to more info, as these units are still reconditioned.
answered 8 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
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I knew it someone in history must of tried this lol, pretty interesting that old 2 stroke engines kinda like this starter because they don't take damage when it spins backwards. +1
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
The Bullnose Morris had a Dynastart, but not a 2 stroke engine...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
add a comment |
They were combined many years ago, one was called the Dyna-start (made by Lucas aka the prince of darkness... :) ), other manufacturers were Bosch and Delco.
They fell out of popularity due to the fact that they would do both jobs but increasing demands of power both for the starting function and the generating function increased. More powerful engines needed better starters and more electrical items ie lights etc needed more power.
So, the functions became separated into the units we see now.
Here is a link to more info, as these units are still reconditioned.
answered 8 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
22.8k2 gold badges17 silver badges39 bronze badges
They were combined many years ago, one was called the Dyna-start (made by Lucas aka the prince of darkness... :) ), other manufacturers were Bosch and Delco.
They fell out of popularity due to the fact that they would do both jobs but increasing demands of power both for the starting function and the generating function increased. More powerful engines needed better starters and more electrical items ie lights etc needed more power.
So, the functions became separated into the units we see now.
Here is a link to more info, as these units are still reconditioned.
answered 8 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
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I knew it someone in history must of tried this lol, pretty interesting that old 2 stroke engines kinda like this starter because they don't take damage when it spins backwards. +1
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
The Bullnose Morris had a Dynastart, but not a 2 stroke engine...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
add a comment |
I knew it someone in history must of tried this lol, pretty interesting that old 2 stroke engines kinda like this starter because they don't take damage when it spins backwards. +1
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
The Bullnose Morris had a Dynastart, but not a 2 stroke engine...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
I knew it someone in history must of tried this lol, pretty interesting that old 2 stroke engines kinda like this starter because they don't take damage when it spins backwards. +1
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
I knew it someone in history must of tried this lol, pretty interesting that old 2 stroke engines kinda like this starter because they don't take damage when it spins backwards. +1
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
The Bullnose Morris had a Dynastart, but not a 2 stroke engine...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
The Bullnose Morris had a Dynastart, but not a 2 stroke engine...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago
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Really good question! My guess would be it having to do with one working really hard for short periods of time (the starter), and the other just having to work for a long time (the alternator). But I could be wrong!
– Cullub
8 hours ago
I'm not brave enough to post an answer because these 2 car parts seem like they could round down to one, but they can't because they're actually very different. I would suggest reading more about how the ignition system activates a car starter, and then how an alternator actually works vs a dc permanent magnet motor. Thats the only way i could imagine it being one part, is some crazy dc permanent magnet motor that has high torque and wouldn't burn up with high RPMs, or maybe theres gears to modify the RPMs. Honestly it just sounds like a disaster.
– Jeffyx
8 hours ago
@Jeffyx See my answer, these were combined as one unit...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
thats back when cars were not much different than horses :)
– Jeffyx
7 hours ago
@Jeffyx yes, but horses did not need a man with a red flag in front...
– Solar Mike
7 hours ago