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Why isn't 10.0.0.0/8 used instead of 192.168.0.0/16 for private addresses?


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RFC 1918 “Address Allocation for Private Internets” (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1918) specifies 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, and 192.168.0.0/16 as private addresses suitable for unrestricted private internal use. Many home networks use the
192.168.1.0/24 address space.



Since 10.0.0.0/8 is a larger address space than 192.168.0.0/16, it would make sense to use 10.0.0.0/8 since there can be more IPs per network.



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    Various 192.168.0.0/16 addresses are allocated by default on many domestic routers, which is why many domestic networks use them. 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 are in fact extremely common and used all over the place. It's just whatever the network designer chooses, for good reasons or poor reasons.

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RFC 1918 “Address Allocation for Private Internets” (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1918) specifies 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, and 192.168.0.0/16 as private addresses suitable for unrestricted private internal use. Many home networks use the
192.168.1.0/24 address space.



Since 10.0.0.0/8 is a larger address space than 192.168.0.0/16, it would make sense to use 10.0.0.0/8 since there can be more IPs per network.



Why isn't 10.0.0.0/8 commonly used instead?










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    Various 192.168.0.0/16 addresses are allocated by default on many domestic routers, which is why many domestic networks use them. 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 are in fact extremely common and used all over the place. It's just whatever the network designer chooses, for good reasons or poor reasons.

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RFC 1918 “Address Allocation for Private Internets” (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1918) specifies 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, and 192.168.0.0/16 as private addresses suitable for unrestricted private internal use. Many home networks use the
192.168.1.0/24 address space.



Since 10.0.0.0/8 is a larger address space than 192.168.0.0/16, it would make sense to use 10.0.0.0/8 since there can be more IPs per network.



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RFC 1918 “Address Allocation for Private Internets” (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1918) specifies 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, and 192.168.0.0/16 as private addresses suitable for unrestricted private internal use. Many home networks use the
192.168.1.0/24 address space.



Since 10.0.0.0/8 is a larger address space than 192.168.0.0/16, it would make sense to use 10.0.0.0/8 since there can be more IPs per network.



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    It is commonly used. It’s s mistake to think it isn’t.

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    Various 192.168.0.0/16 addresses are allocated by default on many domestic routers, which is why many domestic networks use them. 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 are in fact extremely common and used all over the place. It's just whatever the network designer chooses, for good reasons or poor reasons.

    – jonathanjo
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    It is commonly used. It’s s mistake to think it isn’t.

    – Ron Trunk
    10 hours ago






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    Various 192.168.0.0/16 addresses are allocated by default on many domestic routers, which is why many domestic networks use them. 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 are in fact extremely common and used all over the place. It's just whatever the network designer chooses, for good reasons or poor reasons.

    – jonathanjo
    9 hours ago







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It is commonly used. It’s s mistake to think it isn’t.

– Ron Trunk
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It is commonly used. It’s s mistake to think it isn’t.

– Ron Trunk
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Various 192.168.0.0/16 addresses are allocated by default on many domestic routers, which is why many domestic networks use them. 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 are in fact extremely common and used all over the place. It's just whatever the network designer chooses, for good reasons or poor reasons.

– jonathanjo
9 hours ago





Various 192.168.0.0/16 addresses are allocated by default on many domestic routers, which is why many domestic networks use them. 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 are in fact extremely common and used all over the place. It's just whatever the network designer chooses, for good reasons or poor reasons.

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It is merely a necessity constraint and personal preference.



If a Network is being built that would only have 10, or 20, or 50, or even 100 hosts, there is no reason not to use a /24 from 192.168.0.0/16. This is why home networks typically use the 192.168.0.0 range.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) only have up to 1000 or 2000 users, then picking a few /20's in the 172.16.0.0/12 range is perfectly reasonable.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) possibly exceed that, then the 10.0.0.0 IP space is ideal.



That said, there are no rules or regulations. Anyone is free to use the 10.0.0.0 range or the 192.168.0.0 range for whatever network(s) they want.



As an analogy... you can kill a fly with a flyswatter or a sledgehammer. But one of those is much simpler to handle, and just as effective.






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    You can even use all of the RFC1918 ranges together at the same time. ;-)

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As Eddie has very well explained, there's not much difference in which range you use.



One tiny difference there is though: since 192.168.0.0/16 is allocated from the former C-class range 192.0.0.0/3 many systems default the network mask to 255.255.255.0 or /24. Those same systems default a 172.16.0.0/12 subnet to B-class, /16, and and 10.0.0.0/8 subnet to /8. So, the use of a /24 may come more "natural" with 192.168.x.y.



In our company we use 172.16.0.0/12 for historical reasons, with /24 subnets. When setting up something new I very often have to adjust the default /16 mask to /24. As it seems, classful networking isn't quite dead yet - but it should be.






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    I would say in my experience, businesses/corporations tend to make more use of 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 more often than 192.168.0.0/16. Making consumer devices that use 192.168.0.0/16 for home devices makes sense as it helps to avoid any sort of IP space "overlap" when using features such as VPN.

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It is merely a necessity constraint and personal preference.



If a Network is being built that would only have 10, or 20, or 50, or even 100 hosts, there is no reason not to use a /24 from 192.168.0.0/16. This is why home networks typically use the 192.168.0.0 range.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) only have up to 1000 or 2000 users, then picking a few /20's in the 172.16.0.0/12 range is perfectly reasonable.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) possibly exceed that, then the 10.0.0.0 IP space is ideal.



That said, there are no rules or regulations. Anyone is free to use the 10.0.0.0 range or the 192.168.0.0 range for whatever network(s) they want.



As an analogy... you can kill a fly with a flyswatter or a sledgehammer. But one of those is much simpler to handle, and just as effective.






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    You can even use all of the RFC1918 ranges together at the same time. ;-)

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It is merely a necessity constraint and personal preference.



If a Network is being built that would only have 10, or 20, or 50, or even 100 hosts, there is no reason not to use a /24 from 192.168.0.0/16. This is why home networks typically use the 192.168.0.0 range.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) only have up to 1000 or 2000 users, then picking a few /20's in the 172.16.0.0/12 range is perfectly reasonable.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) possibly exceed that, then the 10.0.0.0 IP space is ideal.



That said, there are no rules or regulations. Anyone is free to use the 10.0.0.0 range or the 192.168.0.0 range for whatever network(s) they want.



As an analogy... you can kill a fly with a flyswatter or a sledgehammer. But one of those is much simpler to handle, and just as effective.






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It is merely a necessity constraint and personal preference.



If a Network is being built that would only have 10, or 20, or 50, or even 100 hosts, there is no reason not to use a /24 from 192.168.0.0/16. This is why home networks typically use the 192.168.0.0 range.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) only have up to 1000 or 2000 users, then picking a few /20's in the 172.16.0.0/12 range is perfectly reasonable.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) possibly exceed that, then the 10.0.0.0 IP space is ideal.



That said, there are no rules or regulations. Anyone is free to use the 10.0.0.0 range or the 192.168.0.0 range for whatever network(s) they want.



As an analogy... you can kill a fly with a flyswatter or a sledgehammer. But one of those is much simpler to handle, and just as effective.






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It is merely a necessity constraint and personal preference.



If a Network is being built that would only have 10, or 20, or 50, or even 100 hosts, there is no reason not to use a /24 from 192.168.0.0/16. This is why home networks typically use the 192.168.0.0 range.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) only have up to 1000 or 2000 users, then picking a few /20's in the 172.16.0.0/12 range is perfectly reasonable.



If a Network is being built that would (in all growth projections) possibly exceed that, then the 10.0.0.0 IP space is ideal.



That said, there are no rules or regulations. Anyone is free to use the 10.0.0.0 range or the 192.168.0.0 range for whatever network(s) they want.



As an analogy... you can kill a fly with a flyswatter or a sledgehammer. But one of those is much simpler to handle, and just as effective.







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As Eddie has very well explained, there's not much difference in which range you use.



One tiny difference there is though: since 192.168.0.0/16 is allocated from the former C-class range 192.0.0.0/3 many systems default the network mask to 255.255.255.0 or /24. Those same systems default a 172.16.0.0/12 subnet to B-class, /16, and and 10.0.0.0/8 subnet to /8. So, the use of a /24 may come more "natural" with 192.168.x.y.



In our company we use 172.16.0.0/12 for historical reasons, with /24 subnets. When setting up something new I very often have to adjust the default /16 mask to /24. As it seems, classful networking isn't quite dead yet - but it should be.






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    I would say in my experience, businesses/corporations tend to make more use of 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 more often than 192.168.0.0/16. Making consumer devices that use 192.168.0.0/16 for home devices makes sense as it helps to avoid any sort of IP space "overlap" when using features such as VPN.

    – YLearn
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As Eddie has very well explained, there's not much difference in which range you use.



One tiny difference there is though: since 192.168.0.0/16 is allocated from the former C-class range 192.0.0.0/3 many systems default the network mask to 255.255.255.0 or /24. Those same systems default a 172.16.0.0/12 subnet to B-class, /16, and and 10.0.0.0/8 subnet to /8. So, the use of a /24 may come more "natural" with 192.168.x.y.



In our company we use 172.16.0.0/12 for historical reasons, with /24 subnets. When setting up something new I very often have to adjust the default /16 mask to /24. As it seems, classful networking isn't quite dead yet - but it should be.






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    I would say in my experience, businesses/corporations tend to make more use of 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 more often than 192.168.0.0/16. Making consumer devices that use 192.168.0.0/16 for home devices makes sense as it helps to avoid any sort of IP space "overlap" when using features such as VPN.

    – YLearn
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As Eddie has very well explained, there's not much difference in which range you use.



One tiny difference there is though: since 192.168.0.0/16 is allocated from the former C-class range 192.0.0.0/3 many systems default the network mask to 255.255.255.0 or /24. Those same systems default a 172.16.0.0/12 subnet to B-class, /16, and and 10.0.0.0/8 subnet to /8. So, the use of a /24 may come more "natural" with 192.168.x.y.



In our company we use 172.16.0.0/12 for historical reasons, with /24 subnets. When setting up something new I very often have to adjust the default /16 mask to /24. As it seems, classful networking isn't quite dead yet - but it should be.






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As Eddie has very well explained, there's not much difference in which range you use.



One tiny difference there is though: since 192.168.0.0/16 is allocated from the former C-class range 192.0.0.0/3 many systems default the network mask to 255.255.255.0 or /24. Those same systems default a 172.16.0.0/12 subnet to B-class, /16, and and 10.0.0.0/8 subnet to /8. So, the use of a /24 may come more "natural" with 192.168.x.y.



In our company we use 172.16.0.0/12 for historical reasons, with /24 subnets. When setting up something new I very often have to adjust the default /16 mask to /24. As it seems, classful networking isn't quite dead yet - but it should be.







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    I would say in my experience, businesses/corporations tend to make more use of 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 more often than 192.168.0.0/16. Making consumer devices that use 192.168.0.0/16 for home devices makes sense as it helps to avoid any sort of IP space "overlap" when using features such as VPN.

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I would say in my experience, businesses/corporations tend to make more use of 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 more often than 192.168.0.0/16. Making consumer devices that use 192.168.0.0/16 for home devices makes sense as it helps to avoid any sort of IP space "overlap" when using features such as VPN.

– YLearn
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I would say in my experience, businesses/corporations tend to make more use of 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 more often than 192.168.0.0/16. Making consumer devices that use 192.168.0.0/16 for home devices makes sense as it helps to avoid any sort of IP space "overlap" when using features such as VPN.

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