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Piano: good exercises for runs and navigation


Complete fingering-technique reference book for keyboard player for chords and scales?Rapid chromatic scalesFingerings for root-position Seventh Chords on PianoDiminished Scale Piano FingeringAre these “standard” piano fingerings for the blues scale?Fingering for modes on the pianoForming piano arpeggios/accompaniment for a particular songPiano Fingering for JazzAre there specific injury concerns I should watch out for with piano tremolo exercises?Jazz piano: accompanying oneself













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I'm an aspiring jazz pianists but my right hand falls short in navigation and attempting runs. I need to buy etudes and exercises for fingering. That is, fingering for the various scales (I don't know them), for instance.



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    I'm an aspiring jazz pianists but my right hand falls short in navigation and attempting runs. I need to buy etudes and exercises for fingering. That is, fingering for the various scales (I don't know them), for instance.



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      I'm an aspiring jazz pianists but my right hand falls short in navigation and attempting runs. I need to buy etudes and exercises for fingering. That is, fingering for the various scales (I don't know them), for instance.



      What do you recommend? Hanon - Virtuoso Pianist?










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      I'm an aspiring jazz pianists but my right hand falls short in navigation and attempting runs. I need to buy etudes and exercises for fingering. That is, fingering for the various scales (I don't know them), for instance.



      What do you recommend? Hanon - Virtuoso Pianist?







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          Personally I would avoid Hanon. There are plenty of more interesting etudes and if you do not have a teacher to guide you (because if you did you would just be asking them - wouldn't you!) then there's a chance of going too far too fast, which can be damaging, and also of being bored to death.



          Lots of other stuff is available, so lets look at Czerny as an example. Czerny wrote masses (really masses) of studies varying from straightforward scale and arpeggio type stuff to really complicated and difficult things. If you do not yet know your scales you need to start with the ones that concentrate on scales. Type "Czerny etudes for scales" into Google and you will find loads of stuff, much of it downloadable for free.



          Having said that: if what you actually require is quite literally scales with fingerings then I would recommend the ABRSM Manual of Scales and Arpeggios. All major and minor scales in similar and contrary motion also in thirds, sixths and double thirds. Plus arpeggios of major, minor dominant 7th and diminished seventh chords. Not very exciting but an invaluable resource.



          Good luck.






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            Some stray thoughts from someone who enjoyed scales and disliked Hanon in my younger days.



            Starting point



            Most people start with Cmaj. From my pov an unpleasant choice. Which scale makes your hands/nervous system most happy will of course vary. For me it was:



            Most liked: Bmaj, C#maj, F#maj, Emaj in decreasing order. Also Dmin
            Most disliked: Cmaj, Eb, Bb



            Decide what scale you most like (pick one). Stay with that (if can't decide just take Bmaj) and move on to...



            Next steps



            1 hand, 2 hands in 1,2,3,4 octaves
            (2 octaves in pairs, 3 in triplets 4 in quadruplets etc). Helps to strongly emphasize 1st note of grouping.



            Variations



            • Staccato legato, different in different hands

            • Different dynamics (loud soft)

            • Non-octave distance between hands (3rd, 6ths common but you can do any)

            • Different groupings eg 1 in right hand 4 in left

            • Polyrhythm : eg triplets in rh quadruplets in lh

            Enjoy!



            More than getting good learn to feel happy practicing!






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              Personally I would avoid Hanon. There are plenty of more interesting etudes and if you do not have a teacher to guide you (because if you did you would just be asking them - wouldn't you!) then there's a chance of going too far too fast, which can be damaging, and also of being bored to death.



              Lots of other stuff is available, so lets look at Czerny as an example. Czerny wrote masses (really masses) of studies varying from straightforward scale and arpeggio type stuff to really complicated and difficult things. If you do not yet know your scales you need to start with the ones that concentrate on scales. Type "Czerny etudes for scales" into Google and you will find loads of stuff, much of it downloadable for free.



              Having said that: if what you actually require is quite literally scales with fingerings then I would recommend the ABRSM Manual of Scales and Arpeggios. All major and minor scales in similar and contrary motion also in thirds, sixths and double thirds. Plus arpeggios of major, minor dominant 7th and diminished seventh chords. Not very exciting but an invaluable resource.



              Good luck.






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                Personally I would avoid Hanon. There are plenty of more interesting etudes and if you do not have a teacher to guide you (because if you did you would just be asking them - wouldn't you!) then there's a chance of going too far too fast, which can be damaging, and also of being bored to death.



                Lots of other stuff is available, so lets look at Czerny as an example. Czerny wrote masses (really masses) of studies varying from straightforward scale and arpeggio type stuff to really complicated and difficult things. If you do not yet know your scales you need to start with the ones that concentrate on scales. Type "Czerny etudes for scales" into Google and you will find loads of stuff, much of it downloadable for free.



                Having said that: if what you actually require is quite literally scales with fingerings then I would recommend the ABRSM Manual of Scales and Arpeggios. All major and minor scales in similar and contrary motion also in thirds, sixths and double thirds. Plus arpeggios of major, minor dominant 7th and diminished seventh chords. Not very exciting but an invaluable resource.



                Good luck.






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                  Personally I would avoid Hanon. There are plenty of more interesting etudes and if you do not have a teacher to guide you (because if you did you would just be asking them - wouldn't you!) then there's a chance of going too far too fast, which can be damaging, and also of being bored to death.



                  Lots of other stuff is available, so lets look at Czerny as an example. Czerny wrote masses (really masses) of studies varying from straightforward scale and arpeggio type stuff to really complicated and difficult things. If you do not yet know your scales you need to start with the ones that concentrate on scales. Type "Czerny etudes for scales" into Google and you will find loads of stuff, much of it downloadable for free.



                  Having said that: if what you actually require is quite literally scales with fingerings then I would recommend the ABRSM Manual of Scales and Arpeggios. All major and minor scales in similar and contrary motion also in thirds, sixths and double thirds. Plus arpeggios of major, minor dominant 7th and diminished seventh chords. Not very exciting but an invaluable resource.



                  Good luck.






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                  Personally I would avoid Hanon. There are plenty of more interesting etudes and if you do not have a teacher to guide you (because if you did you would just be asking them - wouldn't you!) then there's a chance of going too far too fast, which can be damaging, and also of being bored to death.



                  Lots of other stuff is available, so lets look at Czerny as an example. Czerny wrote masses (really masses) of studies varying from straightforward scale and arpeggio type stuff to really complicated and difficult things. If you do not yet know your scales you need to start with the ones that concentrate on scales. Type "Czerny etudes for scales" into Google and you will find loads of stuff, much of it downloadable for free.



                  Having said that: if what you actually require is quite literally scales with fingerings then I would recommend the ABRSM Manual of Scales and Arpeggios. All major and minor scales in similar and contrary motion also in thirds, sixths and double thirds. Plus arpeggios of major, minor dominant 7th and diminished seventh chords. Not very exciting but an invaluable resource.



                  Good luck.







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                      Some stray thoughts from someone who enjoyed scales and disliked Hanon in my younger days.



                      Starting point



                      Most people start with Cmaj. From my pov an unpleasant choice. Which scale makes your hands/nervous system most happy will of course vary. For me it was:



                      Most liked: Bmaj, C#maj, F#maj, Emaj in decreasing order. Also Dmin
                      Most disliked: Cmaj, Eb, Bb



                      Decide what scale you most like (pick one). Stay with that (if can't decide just take Bmaj) and move on to...



                      Next steps



                      1 hand, 2 hands in 1,2,3,4 octaves
                      (2 octaves in pairs, 3 in triplets 4 in quadruplets etc). Helps to strongly emphasize 1st note of grouping.



                      Variations



                      • Staccato legato, different in different hands

                      • Different dynamics (loud soft)

                      • Non-octave distance between hands (3rd, 6ths common but you can do any)

                      • Different groupings eg 1 in right hand 4 in left

                      • Polyrhythm : eg triplets in rh quadruplets in lh

                      Enjoy!



                      More than getting good learn to feel happy practicing!






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                        Some stray thoughts from someone who enjoyed scales and disliked Hanon in my younger days.



                        Starting point



                        Most people start with Cmaj. From my pov an unpleasant choice. Which scale makes your hands/nervous system most happy will of course vary. For me it was:



                        Most liked: Bmaj, C#maj, F#maj, Emaj in decreasing order. Also Dmin
                        Most disliked: Cmaj, Eb, Bb



                        Decide what scale you most like (pick one). Stay with that (if can't decide just take Bmaj) and move on to...



                        Next steps



                        1 hand, 2 hands in 1,2,3,4 octaves
                        (2 octaves in pairs, 3 in triplets 4 in quadruplets etc). Helps to strongly emphasize 1st note of grouping.



                        Variations



                        • Staccato legato, different in different hands

                        • Different dynamics (loud soft)

                        • Non-octave distance between hands (3rd, 6ths common but you can do any)

                        • Different groupings eg 1 in right hand 4 in left

                        • Polyrhythm : eg triplets in rh quadruplets in lh

                        Enjoy!



                        More than getting good learn to feel happy practicing!






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                          Some stray thoughts from someone who enjoyed scales and disliked Hanon in my younger days.



                          Starting point



                          Most people start with Cmaj. From my pov an unpleasant choice. Which scale makes your hands/nervous system most happy will of course vary. For me it was:



                          Most liked: Bmaj, C#maj, F#maj, Emaj in decreasing order. Also Dmin
                          Most disliked: Cmaj, Eb, Bb



                          Decide what scale you most like (pick one). Stay with that (if can't decide just take Bmaj) and move on to...



                          Next steps



                          1 hand, 2 hands in 1,2,3,4 octaves
                          (2 octaves in pairs, 3 in triplets 4 in quadruplets etc). Helps to strongly emphasize 1st note of grouping.



                          Variations



                          • Staccato legato, different in different hands

                          • Different dynamics (loud soft)

                          • Non-octave distance between hands (3rd, 6ths common but you can do any)

                          • Different groupings eg 1 in right hand 4 in left

                          • Polyrhythm : eg triplets in rh quadruplets in lh

                          Enjoy!



                          More than getting good learn to feel happy practicing!






                          share|improve this answer















                          Some stray thoughts from someone who enjoyed scales and disliked Hanon in my younger days.



                          Starting point



                          Most people start with Cmaj. From my pov an unpleasant choice. Which scale makes your hands/nervous system most happy will of course vary. For me it was:



                          Most liked: Bmaj, C#maj, F#maj, Emaj in decreasing order. Also Dmin
                          Most disliked: Cmaj, Eb, Bb



                          Decide what scale you most like (pick one). Stay with that (if can't decide just take Bmaj) and move on to...



                          Next steps



                          1 hand, 2 hands in 1,2,3,4 octaves
                          (2 octaves in pairs, 3 in triplets 4 in quadruplets etc). Helps to strongly emphasize 1st note of grouping.



                          Variations



                          • Staccato legato, different in different hands

                          • Different dynamics (loud soft)

                          • Non-octave distance between hands (3rd, 6ths common but you can do any)

                          • Different groupings eg 1 in right hand 4 in left

                          • Polyrhythm : eg triplets in rh quadruplets in lh

                          Enjoy!



                          More than getting good learn to feel happy practicing!







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