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Zip/Tar file compressed to larger size?


What does size of a directory mean in output of 'ls -l' command?Is there a command to list the compressed file sizes for files within a .zip file?Why can't tar extract .zip files?Unpack file compressed in .txz and .tar with one commandBash script to get the result from rsync transfer and zip it as a directory in the original directorytar extract into directory with same base name?why would you tar a zip fileWhy does `zip` in a for loop work when the file exists, but not when it doesn't?rsync-like updating of archive filetar: Potential bug (?) when incremental archive selected - Deleting files in the targetzip command show warnings “name not matched” about symlinks, outside of my working directory, pointing to non-existing target













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I have 4 files that I want to include them in a .zip file.



drwxr-xr-x 7 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:21 CSharp
drwxr-xr-x 11 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-games
drwxr-xr-x 8 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-music
drwxr-xr-x 4 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:18 Test


As you can see in total they size 32K.



After



I am creating the zip using the command bellow:



zip -r myfiles.zip *


The file was created successfully but now its size is 20M, as you can see bellow!



drwxr-xr-x 7 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:21 CSharp
drwxr-xr-x 11 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-games
drwxr-xr-x 8 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-music
-rw-rw-r-- 1 skemelio themelis 20M Απρ 4 02:00 myfiles.zip
drwxr-xr-x 4 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:18 Test


What I've done wrong?



ps: Same thing (same size) happened when I try to create a .tar using tar cvf myfiles.tar *.










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    A individual directory always shows the 4k size when viewed with ls - what you want to use to check before is du - ie, du -sh *

    – ivanivan
    5 hours ago






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    Ok I had no idea why this happens but you are right. Why don't you make it an answer?

    – Themelis
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of What does size of a directory mean in output of 'ls -l' command?

    – Fabby
    4 hours ago











  • FYI, 4K * 4 = 16K, not 32K. Also, in this case this is due to a misunderstanding of the size that ls reports for directories (that each directory was the exactly the same size should have been a hint that maybe ls isn't reporting what you think), but in general you should not necessarily be surprised if compression sometimes produces a larger file. Compression can't compress everything; otherwise you could repeatedly run zip on a .zip file to get increasingly smaller files.

    – jamesdlin
    3 mins ago















2















I have 4 files that I want to include them in a .zip file.



drwxr-xr-x 7 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:21 CSharp
drwxr-xr-x 11 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-games
drwxr-xr-x 8 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-music
drwxr-xr-x 4 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:18 Test


As you can see in total they size 32K.



After



I am creating the zip using the command bellow:



zip -r myfiles.zip *


The file was created successfully but now its size is 20M, as you can see bellow!



drwxr-xr-x 7 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:21 CSharp
drwxr-xr-x 11 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-games
drwxr-xr-x 8 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-music
-rw-rw-r-- 1 skemelio themelis 20M Απρ 4 02:00 myfiles.zip
drwxr-xr-x 4 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:18 Test


What I've done wrong?



ps: Same thing (same size) happened when I try to create a .tar using tar cvf myfiles.tar *.










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  • 1





    A individual directory always shows the 4k size when viewed with ls - what you want to use to check before is du - ie, du -sh *

    – ivanivan
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Ok I had no idea why this happens but you are right. Why don't you make it an answer?

    – Themelis
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of What does size of a directory mean in output of 'ls -l' command?

    – Fabby
    4 hours ago











  • FYI, 4K * 4 = 16K, not 32K. Also, in this case this is due to a misunderstanding of the size that ls reports for directories (that each directory was the exactly the same size should have been a hint that maybe ls isn't reporting what you think), but in general you should not necessarily be surprised if compression sometimes produces a larger file. Compression can't compress everything; otherwise you could repeatedly run zip on a .zip file to get increasingly smaller files.

    – jamesdlin
    3 mins ago













2












2








2








I have 4 files that I want to include them in a .zip file.



drwxr-xr-x 7 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:21 CSharp
drwxr-xr-x 11 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-games
drwxr-xr-x 8 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-music
drwxr-xr-x 4 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:18 Test


As you can see in total they size 32K.



After



I am creating the zip using the command bellow:



zip -r myfiles.zip *


The file was created successfully but now its size is 20M, as you can see bellow!



drwxr-xr-x 7 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:21 CSharp
drwxr-xr-x 11 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-games
drwxr-xr-x 8 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-music
-rw-rw-r-- 1 skemelio themelis 20M Απρ 4 02:00 myfiles.zip
drwxr-xr-x 4 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:18 Test


What I've done wrong?



ps: Same thing (same size) happened when I try to create a .tar using tar cvf myfiles.tar *.










share|improve this question









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I have 4 files that I want to include them in a .zip file.



drwxr-xr-x 7 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:21 CSharp
drwxr-xr-x 11 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-games
drwxr-xr-x 8 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-music
drwxr-xr-x 4 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:18 Test


As you can see in total they size 32K.



After



I am creating the zip using the command bellow:



zip -r myfiles.zip *


The file was created successfully but now its size is 20M, as you can see bellow!



drwxr-xr-x 7 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:21 CSharp
drwxr-xr-x 11 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-games
drwxr-xr-x 8 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:17 gnome-music
-rw-rw-r-- 1 skemelio themelis 20M Απρ 4 02:00 myfiles.zip
drwxr-xr-x 4 skemelio themelis 4,0K Οκτ 18 00:18 Test


What I've done wrong?



ps: Same thing (same size) happened when I try to create a .tar using tar cvf myfiles.tar *.







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  • 1





    A individual directory always shows the 4k size when viewed with ls - what you want to use to check before is du - ie, du -sh *

    – ivanivan
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Ok I had no idea why this happens but you are right. Why don't you make it an answer?

    – Themelis
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of What does size of a directory mean in output of 'ls -l' command?

    – Fabby
    4 hours ago











  • FYI, 4K * 4 = 16K, not 32K. Also, in this case this is due to a misunderstanding of the size that ls reports for directories (that each directory was the exactly the same size should have been a hint that maybe ls isn't reporting what you think), but in general you should not necessarily be surprised if compression sometimes produces a larger file. Compression can't compress everything; otherwise you could repeatedly run zip on a .zip file to get increasingly smaller files.

    – jamesdlin
    3 mins ago












  • 1





    A individual directory always shows the 4k size when viewed with ls - what you want to use to check before is du - ie, du -sh *

    – ivanivan
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Ok I had no idea why this happens but you are right. Why don't you make it an answer?

    – Themelis
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of What does size of a directory mean in output of 'ls -l' command?

    – Fabby
    4 hours ago











  • FYI, 4K * 4 = 16K, not 32K. Also, in this case this is due to a misunderstanding of the size that ls reports for directories (that each directory was the exactly the same size should have been a hint that maybe ls isn't reporting what you think), but in general you should not necessarily be surprised if compression sometimes produces a larger file. Compression can't compress everything; otherwise you could repeatedly run zip on a .zip file to get increasingly smaller files.

    – jamesdlin
    3 mins ago







1




1





A individual directory always shows the 4k size when viewed with ls - what you want to use to check before is du - ie, du -sh *

– ivanivan
5 hours ago





A individual directory always shows the 4k size when viewed with ls - what you want to use to check before is du - ie, du -sh *

– ivanivan
5 hours ago




1




1





Ok I had no idea why this happens but you are right. Why don't you make it an answer?

– Themelis
5 hours ago





Ok I had no idea why this happens but you are right. Why don't you make it an answer?

– Themelis
5 hours ago




1




1





Possible duplicate of What does size of a directory mean in output of 'ls -l' command?

– Fabby
4 hours ago





Possible duplicate of What does size of a directory mean in output of 'ls -l' command?

– Fabby
4 hours ago













FYI, 4K * 4 = 16K, not 32K. Also, in this case this is due to a misunderstanding of the size that ls reports for directories (that each directory was the exactly the same size should have been a hint that maybe ls isn't reporting what you think), but in general you should not necessarily be surprised if compression sometimes produces a larger file. Compression can't compress everything; otherwise you could repeatedly run zip on a .zip file to get increasingly smaller files.

– jamesdlin
3 mins ago





FYI, 4K * 4 = 16K, not 32K. Also, in this case this is due to a misunderstanding of the size that ls reports for directories (that each directory was the exactly the same size should have been a hint that maybe ls isn't reporting what you think), but in general you should not necessarily be surprised if compression sometimes produces a larger file. Compression can't compress everything; otherwise you could repeatedly run zip on a .zip file to get increasingly smaller files.

– jamesdlin
3 mins ago










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An individual directory always shows a false size when viewed with ls - what you want to use to check before is du - ie, du -sh *.



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  • The size show by ls for a directory is not false, it is the size of the directory. However the size of a directory is related to the number of entries in it (possibly the largest number it every had), not the size of those entries.

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  • The size show by ls for a directory is not false, it is the size of the directory. However the size of a directory is related to the number of entries in it (possibly the largest number it every had), not the size of those entries.

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An individual directory always shows a false size when viewed with ls - what you want to use to check before is du - ie, du -sh *.



A good explanation of what the size of a directory means is on this Q&A - What does size of a directory mean in output of 'ls -l' command?






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