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I'm trying to shrink my partition. In order to achieve the amount that I need, I'm using JKdefrag. I've seen that some files are marked red - not movable like hibernation.sys and pagefile.sys.

In the end, they are just files and I'm an administrator. The only thing I can do remove them by disabling.

Why are they not movable?

Note: I'm not asking how to disable the hibernation.sys and pagefile.sys etc. I'm looking for the reason why they are not movable.

windows windows-10

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  They are movable but not while booted into windows, you need a third party partitioning tool that you boot from, then any of them can be moved.
  
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  @Moab I'm not asking how to shrink or remove them. There are tons of sites that mentions this. I'm just asking Why!
  
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  "I'm trying to shrink my partition" Because they are in use by Windows and some are protected, just cant move them while booted into windows.
  
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I'm trying to shrink my partition. In order to achieve the amount that I need, I'm using JKdefrag. I've seen that some files are marked red - not movable like hibernation.sys and pagefile.sys.

In the end, they are just files and I'm an administrator. The only thing I can do remove them by disabling.

Why are they not movable?

Note: I'm not asking how to disable the hibernation.sys and pagefile.sys etc. I'm looking for the reason why they are not movable.

windows windows-10

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  They are movable but not while booted into windows, you need a third party partitioning tool that you boot from, then any of them can be moved.
  
  – Moab
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Moab is there any name?
  
  – kelalaka
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  Possible duplicate of How can I shrink a Windows 10 partition?
  
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  6 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Moab I'm not asking how to shrink or remove them. There are tons of sites that mentions this. I'm just asking Why!
  
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  6 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  "I'm trying to shrink my partition" Because they are in use by Windows and some are protected, just cant move them while booted into windows.
  
  – Moab
  6 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  

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I'm trying to shrink my partition. In order to achieve the amount that I need, I'm using JKdefrag. I've seen that some files are marked red - not movable like hibernation.sys and pagefile.sys.

In the end, they are just files and I'm an administrator. The only thing I can do remove them by disabling.

Why are they not movable?

Note: I'm not asking how to disable the hibernation.sys and pagefile.sys etc. I'm looking for the reason why they are not movable.

windows windows-10

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Some system files cannot be moved after the system boots, such as the page-file
and registry database files. They are exclusively locked by Windows itself, so cannot
be moved or directly updated while Windows is running.

For example, while Windows is running the page-file is referred-to by its direct
cluster number on the disk.
Since swap is a critical operation affecting system performance, Windows does not have
the time to search the disk and folder metadata when it wants to do or undo a swap.

Another reason for making these files unmovable is that they are critical to the
operation of Windows, so Windows protects them to the limit and does not allow
any access that does not go through its dedicated utilities or API.

Any product that is capable of moving these files will require a reboot in order
to can get access to the disk before Windows is launched.

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A cool story by Raymond Chen:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/technet-magazine/cc137769(v=msdn.10)

In short:

Again, it's another chicken-and-egg problem: to load the hibernation file, you need the file system driver, but the file system driver is in the hibernation file. If you keep the hibernation file in the root directory of the boot drive, the miniature file system driver can be used instead.

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Some system files cannot be moved after the system boots, such as the page-file
and registry database files. They are exclusively locked by Windows itself, so cannot
be moved or directly updated while Windows is running.

For example, while Windows is running the page-file is referred-to by its direct
cluster number on the disk.
Since swap is a critical operation affecting system performance, Windows does not have
the time to search the disk and folder metadata when it wants to do or undo a swap.

Another reason for making these files unmovable is that they are critical to the
operation of Windows, so Windows protects them to the limit and does not allow
any access that does not go through its dedicated utilities or API.

Any product that is capable of moving these files will require a reboot in order
to can get access to the disk before Windows is launched.

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Some system files cannot be moved after the system boots, such as the page-file
and registry database files. They are exclusively locked by Windows itself, so cannot
be moved or directly updated while Windows is running.

For example, while Windows is running the page-file is referred-to by its direct
cluster number on the disk.
Since swap is a critical operation affecting system performance, Windows does not have
the time to search the disk and folder metadata when it wants to do or undo a swap.

Another reason for making these files unmovable is that they are critical to the
operation of Windows, so Windows protects them to the limit and does not allow
any access that does not go through its dedicated utilities or API.

Any product that is capable of moving these files will require a reboot in order
to can get access to the disk before Windows is launched.

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Some system files cannot be moved after the system boots, such as the page-file
and registry database files. They are exclusively locked by Windows itself, so cannot
be moved or directly updated while Windows is running.

For example, while Windows is running the page-file is referred-to by its direct
cluster number on the disk.
Since swap is a critical operation affecting system performance, Windows does not have
the time to search the disk and folder metadata when it wants to do or undo a swap.

Another reason for making these files unmovable is that they are critical to the
operation of Windows, so Windows protects them to the limit and does not allow
any access that does not go through its dedicated utilities or API.

Any product that is capable of moving these files will require a reboot in order
to can get access to the disk before Windows is launched.

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A cool story by Raymond Chen:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/technet-magazine/cc137769(v=msdn.10)

In short:

Again, it's another chicken-and-egg problem: to load the hibernation file, you need the file system driver, but the file system driver is in the hibernation file. If you keep the hibernation file in the root directory of the boot drive, the miniature file system driver can be used instead.

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A cool story by Raymond Chen:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/technet-magazine/cc137769(v=msdn.10)

In short:

Again, it's another chicken-and-egg problem: to load the hibernation file, you need the file system driver, but the file system driver is in the hibernation file. If you keep the hibernation file in the root directory of the boot drive, the miniature file system driver can be used instead.

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A cool story by Raymond Chen:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/technet-magazine/cc137769(v=msdn.10)

In short:

Again, it's another chicken-and-egg problem: to load the hibernation file, you need the file system driver, but the file system driver is in the hibernation file. If you keep the hibernation file in the root directory of the boot drive, the miniature file system driver can be used instead.

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