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          Did bit one of the Intel 8080's Flags register, the bit between the carry and parity flags, get set to one on startup?




          TL;DR:



          No, as there is no flag register on the 8080. Only separate flags. The 'filler' bits (1, 3, 5) only get their value when PUSH PSW is executed.




          Long Read:



          The 8080 does not have a flag register, but like it's predecessor the 8008 separate flags. Which are, like other answers describe correct, at random state after power-up/reset.



          The 8080 has no access in register form for the programmer. Only testing due conditioned instructions was possible. Setting could only be done via instructions with implied result stored in any of them. The only access as byte data was when pushed onto the stack.



          When storing the flags to the stack (PUSH PSW) the second byte is synthesized from the flag bits and completed by 'filler' values for position 1, 3, 5 (1, 0, 0). This guarantees that in memory bit 1 always will be 1.



          (From "8080 Assembly Language Programming Manual", "Rev B", p.22/23)



          During store (PUSH PSW)



          If register pair PSW is specified, the first byte of information
          saved holds the contents of the A register; the
          second byte holds the settings of the five condition bits,
          i.e., Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary Carry. The format
          of this byte is:

          | | | |A| | | | |
          |S|Z|0|C|0|P|1|C|

          S State of Sign bit
          Z State of Zero bit
          0 always 0
          AC State of auxiliary Carry bit
          0 always 0
          P State of Parity bit
          1 always 1
          C State of Carry bit


          For retrieval (POP PSW):



          [...] If register pair
          PSW is specified, the byte of data indicated by the contents
          of the stack pointer plus one is used to restore the values of
          the five condition bits (Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary
          Carry) using the format described in the last section.



          If so what was the reason for this, and was this inherited from the 8008 Flags register?




          In part, as they were separate single bit entities. Except the 8008 did not allow any access to the flags beside testing them in conditional instructions. There was no instruction to store or retrieve them at all.




          Follow Up Tidbits:



          The follow up 8085 did introduce a real flag register (*1), still not in the register file, but kept separate, like the A register as well (*2). Now bit 1 was used as V flag. That's one of the incompatibilities with 8080 code - and one way to detect a 8085, by pushing a cleared HL, poping PSW, pushing PSW again and then checking L. If bit 1 is still cleared, it's an 8085.



          The Z80 in contrast made the flag register (or better both, as there's one for every register set) part of its huge register file, but now, at the begin of every instruction, copied the content of the flag register in use into seperate flag flip-flops, only to be copied back at the end. Beside simplifying the storage structure a must to support two register sets, including flags.




          *1 - Well, almost, as only 7 storage bits are implemented. Bit 3 was replaced by a circuitry to always drive 0 when read.



          *2 - On the 8008 the A register was a normal member of the register file.






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            I voted +1 as this all sounds correct; who voted -1? "It's not set at startup because it doesn't exist" sounds like a good contribution to me.

            – Tommy
            8 hours ago











          • What is the reason bit one in memory (from PUSH PSW) was set to one? Bit one of the 8086 Flags register is also set to one.

            – Single Malt
            6 hours ago











          • @SingleMalt Well, for a definitive Answer one may have to go thru the circuitry. It may as well be due the way the data lines are layouted. Ken Shirriff might be a good source to ask here. The 8086 flag register was on purpose made to work similar to the 8080 to ease automatic program conversion.

            – Raffzahn
            6 hours ago












          • @Raffzahn definitely seems plausible to do with the circuitry. Appreciate the additional information that 8085 was the first of these to introduce a real register flag, and the link about its V flag.

            – Single Malt
            5 hours ago






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            So, this seems to be a Heisenberg thing: Once you start looking at it (PUSH PSW), it suddenly is different ;)

            – tofro
            4 hours ago


















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          According to the Intel 8080 microcomputer systems user’s manual, the contents of registers are indeterminate on startup:




          The contents of its
          program counter, stack pointer, and the other working regis-
          ters are naturally subject to random factors and cannot be
          specified.




          and further on




          Note, however, that
          the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the
          processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or
          stack pointer). The contents of these registers remain inde-
          terminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.







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            beat me to it, and you cite the same manual ;)

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          According to the manual, the only thing that is explicitly set after RESET in the 8080 is the program counter. Everything else is indeterminate:




          Note, however,that the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or stackpointer). The contents of these registers remain indeterminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.




          If they don't initialize anything at all, it is very unlikely they'd initialize something that isn't even used.






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          • I like the 'unlikely' part :)) Except, for all ever visible to programmers, they will look like initialized. Cool, isn't it?

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          Did bit one of the Intel 8080's Flags register, the bit between the carry and parity flags, get set to one on startup?




          TL;DR:



          No, as there is no flag register on the 8080. Only separate flags. The 'filler' bits (1, 3, 5) only get their value when PUSH PSW is executed.




          Long Read:



          The 8080 does not have a flag register, but like it's predecessor the 8008 separate flags. Which are, like other answers describe correct, at random state after power-up/reset.



          The 8080 has no access in register form for the programmer. Only testing due conditioned instructions was possible. Setting could only be done via instructions with implied result stored in any of them. The only access as byte data was when pushed onto the stack.



          When storing the flags to the stack (PUSH PSW) the second byte is synthesized from the flag bits and completed by 'filler' values for position 1, 3, 5 (1, 0, 0). This guarantees that in memory bit 1 always will be 1.



          (From "8080 Assembly Language Programming Manual", "Rev B", p.22/23)



          During store (PUSH PSW)



          If register pair PSW is specified, the first byte of information
          saved holds the contents of the A register; the
          second byte holds the settings of the five condition bits,
          i.e., Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary Carry. The format
          of this byte is:

          | | | |A| | | | |
          |S|Z|0|C|0|P|1|C|

          S State of Sign bit
          Z State of Zero bit
          0 always 0
          AC State of auxiliary Carry bit
          0 always 0
          P State of Parity bit
          1 always 1
          C State of Carry bit


          For retrieval (POP PSW):



          [...] If register pair
          PSW is specified, the byte of data indicated by the contents
          of the stack pointer plus one is used to restore the values of
          the five condition bits (Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary
          Carry) using the format described in the last section.



          If so what was the reason for this, and was this inherited from the 8008 Flags register?




          In part, as they were separate single bit entities. Except the 8008 did not allow any access to the flags beside testing them in conditional instructions. There was no instruction to store or retrieve them at all.




          Follow Up Tidbits:



          The follow up 8085 did introduce a real flag register (*1), still not in the register file, but kept separate, like the A register as well (*2). Now bit 1 was used as V flag. That's one of the incompatibilities with 8080 code - and one way to detect a 8085, by pushing a cleared HL, poping PSW, pushing PSW again and then checking L. If bit 1 is still cleared, it's an 8085.



          The Z80 in contrast made the flag register (or better both, as there's one for every register set) part of its huge register file, but now, at the begin of every instruction, copied the content of the flag register in use into seperate flag flip-flops, only to be copied back at the end. Beside simplifying the storage structure a must to support two register sets, including flags.




          *1 - Well, almost, as only 7 storage bits are implemented. Bit 3 was replaced by a circuitry to always drive 0 when read.



          *2 - On the 8008 the A register was a normal member of the register file.






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            I voted +1 as this all sounds correct; who voted -1? "It's not set at startup because it doesn't exist" sounds like a good contribution to me.

            – Tommy
            8 hours ago











          • What is the reason bit one in memory (from PUSH PSW) was set to one? Bit one of the 8086 Flags register is also set to one.

            – Single Malt
            6 hours ago











          • @SingleMalt Well, for a definitive Answer one may have to go thru the circuitry. It may as well be due the way the data lines are layouted. Ken Shirriff might be a good source to ask here. The 8086 flag register was on purpose made to work similar to the 8080 to ease automatic program conversion.

            – Raffzahn
            6 hours ago












          • @Raffzahn definitely seems plausible to do with the circuitry. Appreciate the additional information that 8085 was the first of these to introduce a real register flag, and the link about its V flag.

            – Single Malt
            5 hours ago






          • 1





            So, this seems to be a Heisenberg thing: Once you start looking at it (PUSH PSW), it suddenly is different ;)

            – tofro
            4 hours ago















          8

















          Did bit one of the Intel 8080's Flags register, the bit between the carry and parity flags, get set to one on startup?




          TL;DR:



          No, as there is no flag register on the 8080. Only separate flags. The 'filler' bits (1, 3, 5) only get their value when PUSH PSW is executed.




          Long Read:



          The 8080 does not have a flag register, but like it's predecessor the 8008 separate flags. Which are, like other answers describe correct, at random state after power-up/reset.



          The 8080 has no access in register form for the programmer. Only testing due conditioned instructions was possible. Setting could only be done via instructions with implied result stored in any of them. The only access as byte data was when pushed onto the stack.



          When storing the flags to the stack (PUSH PSW) the second byte is synthesized from the flag bits and completed by 'filler' values for position 1, 3, 5 (1, 0, 0). This guarantees that in memory bit 1 always will be 1.



          (From "8080 Assembly Language Programming Manual", "Rev B", p.22/23)



          During store (PUSH PSW)



          If register pair PSW is specified, the first byte of information
          saved holds the contents of the A register; the
          second byte holds the settings of the five condition bits,
          i.e., Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary Carry. The format
          of this byte is:

          | | | |A| | | | |
          |S|Z|0|C|0|P|1|C|

          S State of Sign bit
          Z State of Zero bit
          0 always 0
          AC State of auxiliary Carry bit
          0 always 0
          P State of Parity bit
          1 always 1
          C State of Carry bit


          For retrieval (POP PSW):



          [...] If register pair
          PSW is specified, the byte of data indicated by the contents
          of the stack pointer plus one is used to restore the values of
          the five condition bits (Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary
          Carry) using the format described in the last section.



          If so what was the reason for this, and was this inherited from the 8008 Flags register?




          In part, as they were separate single bit entities. Except the 8008 did not allow any access to the flags beside testing them in conditional instructions. There was no instruction to store or retrieve them at all.




          Follow Up Tidbits:



          The follow up 8085 did introduce a real flag register (*1), still not in the register file, but kept separate, like the A register as well (*2). Now bit 1 was used as V flag. That's one of the incompatibilities with 8080 code - and one way to detect a 8085, by pushing a cleared HL, poping PSW, pushing PSW again and then checking L. If bit 1 is still cleared, it's an 8085.



          The Z80 in contrast made the flag register (or better both, as there's one for every register set) part of its huge register file, but now, at the begin of every instruction, copied the content of the flag register in use into seperate flag flip-flops, only to be copied back at the end. Beside simplifying the storage structure a must to support two register sets, including flags.




          *1 - Well, almost, as only 7 storage bits are implemented. Bit 3 was replaced by a circuitry to always drive 0 when read.



          *2 - On the 8008 the A register was a normal member of the register file.






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            I voted +1 as this all sounds correct; who voted -1? "It's not set at startup because it doesn't exist" sounds like a good contribution to me.

            – Tommy
            8 hours ago











          • What is the reason bit one in memory (from PUSH PSW) was set to one? Bit one of the 8086 Flags register is also set to one.

            – Single Malt
            6 hours ago











          • @SingleMalt Well, for a definitive Answer one may have to go thru the circuitry. It may as well be due the way the data lines are layouted. Ken Shirriff might be a good source to ask here. The 8086 flag register was on purpose made to work similar to the 8080 to ease automatic program conversion.

            – Raffzahn
            6 hours ago












          • @Raffzahn definitely seems plausible to do with the circuitry. Appreciate the additional information that 8085 was the first of these to introduce a real register flag, and the link about its V flag.

            – Single Malt
            5 hours ago






          • 1





            So, this seems to be a Heisenberg thing: Once you start looking at it (PUSH PSW), it suddenly is different ;)

            – tofro
            4 hours ago













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          Did bit one of the Intel 8080's Flags register, the bit between the carry and parity flags, get set to one on startup?




          TL;DR:



          No, as there is no flag register on the 8080. Only separate flags. The 'filler' bits (1, 3, 5) only get their value when PUSH PSW is executed.




          Long Read:



          The 8080 does not have a flag register, but like it's predecessor the 8008 separate flags. Which are, like other answers describe correct, at random state after power-up/reset.



          The 8080 has no access in register form for the programmer. Only testing due conditioned instructions was possible. Setting could only be done via instructions with implied result stored in any of them. The only access as byte data was when pushed onto the stack.



          When storing the flags to the stack (PUSH PSW) the second byte is synthesized from the flag bits and completed by 'filler' values for position 1, 3, 5 (1, 0, 0). This guarantees that in memory bit 1 always will be 1.



          (From "8080 Assembly Language Programming Manual", "Rev B", p.22/23)



          During store (PUSH PSW)



          If register pair PSW is specified, the first byte of information
          saved holds the contents of the A register; the
          second byte holds the settings of the five condition bits,
          i.e., Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary Carry. The format
          of this byte is:

          | | | |A| | | | |
          |S|Z|0|C|0|P|1|C|

          S State of Sign bit
          Z State of Zero bit
          0 always 0
          AC State of auxiliary Carry bit
          0 always 0
          P State of Parity bit
          1 always 1
          C State of Carry bit


          For retrieval (POP PSW):



          [...] If register pair
          PSW is specified, the byte of data indicated by the contents
          of the stack pointer plus one is used to restore the values of
          the five condition bits (Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary
          Carry) using the format described in the last section.



          If so what was the reason for this, and was this inherited from the 8008 Flags register?




          In part, as they were separate single bit entities. Except the 8008 did not allow any access to the flags beside testing them in conditional instructions. There was no instruction to store or retrieve them at all.




          Follow Up Tidbits:



          The follow up 8085 did introduce a real flag register (*1), still not in the register file, but kept separate, like the A register as well (*2). Now bit 1 was used as V flag. That's one of the incompatibilities with 8080 code - and one way to detect a 8085, by pushing a cleared HL, poping PSW, pushing PSW again and then checking L. If bit 1 is still cleared, it's an 8085.



          The Z80 in contrast made the flag register (or better both, as there's one for every register set) part of its huge register file, but now, at the begin of every instruction, copied the content of the flag register in use into seperate flag flip-flops, only to be copied back at the end. Beside simplifying the storage structure a must to support two register sets, including flags.




          *1 - Well, almost, as only 7 storage bits are implemented. Bit 3 was replaced by a circuitry to always drive 0 when read.



          *2 - On the 8008 the A register was a normal member of the register file.






          share|improve this answer
















          Did bit one of the Intel 8080's Flags register, the bit between the carry and parity flags, get set to one on startup?




          TL;DR:



          No, as there is no flag register on the 8080. Only separate flags. The 'filler' bits (1, 3, 5) only get their value when PUSH PSW is executed.




          Long Read:



          The 8080 does not have a flag register, but like it's predecessor the 8008 separate flags. Which are, like other answers describe correct, at random state after power-up/reset.



          The 8080 has no access in register form for the programmer. Only testing due conditioned instructions was possible. Setting could only be done via instructions with implied result stored in any of them. The only access as byte data was when pushed onto the stack.



          When storing the flags to the stack (PUSH PSW) the second byte is synthesized from the flag bits and completed by 'filler' values for position 1, 3, 5 (1, 0, 0). This guarantees that in memory bit 1 always will be 1.



          (From "8080 Assembly Language Programming Manual", "Rev B", p.22/23)



          During store (PUSH PSW)



          If register pair PSW is specified, the first byte of information
          saved holds the contents of the A register; the
          second byte holds the settings of the five condition bits,
          i.e., Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary Carry. The format
          of this byte is:

          | | | |A| | | | |
          |S|Z|0|C|0|P|1|C|

          S State of Sign bit
          Z State of Zero bit
          0 always 0
          AC State of auxiliary Carry bit
          0 always 0
          P State of Parity bit
          1 always 1
          C State of Carry bit


          For retrieval (POP PSW):



          [...] If register pair
          PSW is specified, the byte of data indicated by the contents
          of the stack pointer plus one is used to restore the values of
          the five condition bits (Carry, Zero, Sign, Parity, and Auxiliary
          Carry) using the format described in the last section.



          If so what was the reason for this, and was this inherited from the 8008 Flags register?




          In part, as they were separate single bit entities. Except the 8008 did not allow any access to the flags beside testing them in conditional instructions. There was no instruction to store or retrieve them at all.




          Follow Up Tidbits:



          The follow up 8085 did introduce a real flag register (*1), still not in the register file, but kept separate, like the A register as well (*2). Now bit 1 was used as V flag. That's one of the incompatibilities with 8080 code - and one way to detect a 8085, by pushing a cleared HL, poping PSW, pushing PSW again and then checking L. If bit 1 is still cleared, it's an 8085.



          The Z80 in contrast made the flag register (or better both, as there's one for every register set) part of its huge register file, but now, at the begin of every instruction, copied the content of the flag register in use into seperate flag flip-flops, only to be copied back at the end. Beside simplifying the storage structure a must to support two register sets, including flags.




          *1 - Well, almost, as only 7 storage bits are implemented. Bit 3 was replaced by a circuitry to always drive 0 when read.



          *2 - On the 8008 the A register was a normal member of the register file.







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            I voted +1 as this all sounds correct; who voted -1? "It's not set at startup because it doesn't exist" sounds like a good contribution to me.

            – Tommy
            8 hours ago











          • What is the reason bit one in memory (from PUSH PSW) was set to one? Bit one of the 8086 Flags register is also set to one.

            – Single Malt
            6 hours ago











          • @SingleMalt Well, for a definitive Answer one may have to go thru the circuitry. It may as well be due the way the data lines are layouted. Ken Shirriff might be a good source to ask here. The 8086 flag register was on purpose made to work similar to the 8080 to ease automatic program conversion.

            – Raffzahn
            6 hours ago












          • @Raffzahn definitely seems plausible to do with the circuitry. Appreciate the additional information that 8085 was the first of these to introduce a real register flag, and the link about its V flag.

            – Single Malt
            5 hours ago






          • 1





            So, this seems to be a Heisenberg thing: Once you start looking at it (PUSH PSW), it suddenly is different ;)

            – tofro
            4 hours ago












          • 1





            I voted +1 as this all sounds correct; who voted -1? "It's not set at startup because it doesn't exist" sounds like a good contribution to me.

            – Tommy
            8 hours ago











          • What is the reason bit one in memory (from PUSH PSW) was set to one? Bit one of the 8086 Flags register is also set to one.

            – Single Malt
            6 hours ago











          • @SingleMalt Well, for a definitive Answer one may have to go thru the circuitry. It may as well be due the way the data lines are layouted. Ken Shirriff might be a good source to ask here. The 8086 flag register was on purpose made to work similar to the 8080 to ease automatic program conversion.

            – Raffzahn
            6 hours ago












          • @Raffzahn definitely seems plausible to do with the circuitry. Appreciate the additional information that 8085 was the first of these to introduce a real register flag, and the link about its V flag.

            – Single Malt
            5 hours ago






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            So, this seems to be a Heisenberg thing: Once you start looking at it (PUSH PSW), it suddenly is different ;)

            – tofro
            4 hours ago







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          I voted +1 as this all sounds correct; who voted -1? "It's not set at startup because it doesn't exist" sounds like a good contribution to me.

          – Tommy
          8 hours ago





          I voted +1 as this all sounds correct; who voted -1? "It's not set at startup because it doesn't exist" sounds like a good contribution to me.

          – Tommy
          8 hours ago













          What is the reason bit one in memory (from PUSH PSW) was set to one? Bit one of the 8086 Flags register is also set to one.

          – Single Malt
          6 hours ago





          What is the reason bit one in memory (from PUSH PSW) was set to one? Bit one of the 8086 Flags register is also set to one.

          – Single Malt
          6 hours ago













          @SingleMalt Well, for a definitive Answer one may have to go thru the circuitry. It may as well be due the way the data lines are layouted. Ken Shirriff might be a good source to ask here. The 8086 flag register was on purpose made to work similar to the 8080 to ease automatic program conversion.

          – Raffzahn
          6 hours ago






          @SingleMalt Well, for a definitive Answer one may have to go thru the circuitry. It may as well be due the way the data lines are layouted. Ken Shirriff might be a good source to ask here. The 8086 flag register was on purpose made to work similar to the 8080 to ease automatic program conversion.

          – Raffzahn
          6 hours ago














          @Raffzahn definitely seems plausible to do with the circuitry. Appreciate the additional information that 8085 was the first of these to introduce a real register flag, and the link about its V flag.

          – Single Malt
          5 hours ago





          @Raffzahn definitely seems plausible to do with the circuitry. Appreciate the additional information that 8085 was the first of these to introduce a real register flag, and the link about its V flag.

          – Single Malt
          5 hours ago




          1




          1





          So, this seems to be a Heisenberg thing: Once you start looking at it (PUSH PSW), it suddenly is different ;)

          – tofro
          4 hours ago





          So, this seems to be a Heisenberg thing: Once you start looking at it (PUSH PSW), it suddenly is different ;)

          – tofro
          4 hours ago













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          According to the Intel 8080 microcomputer systems user’s manual, the contents of registers are indeterminate on startup:




          The contents of its
          program counter, stack pointer, and the other working regis-
          ters are naturally subject to random factors and cannot be
          specified.




          and further on




          Note, however, that
          the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the
          processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or
          stack pointer). The contents of these registers remain inde-
          terminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.







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            beat me to it, and you cite the same manual ;)

            – tofro
            9 hours ago















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          According to the Intel 8080 microcomputer systems user’s manual, the contents of registers are indeterminate on startup:




          The contents of its
          program counter, stack pointer, and the other working regis-
          ters are naturally subject to random factors and cannot be
          specified.




          and further on




          Note, however, that
          the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the
          processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or
          stack pointer). The contents of these registers remain inde-
          terminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.







          share|improve this answer




















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            beat me to it, and you cite the same manual ;)

            – tofro
            9 hours ago













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          According to the Intel 8080 microcomputer systems user’s manual, the contents of registers are indeterminate on startup:




          The contents of its
          program counter, stack pointer, and the other working regis-
          ters are naturally subject to random factors and cannot be
          specified.




          and further on




          Note, however, that
          the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the
          processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or
          stack pointer). The contents of these registers remain inde-
          terminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.







          share|improve this answer













          According to the Intel 8080 microcomputer systems user’s manual, the contents of registers are indeterminate on startup:




          The contents of its
          program counter, stack pointer, and the other working regis-
          ters are naturally subject to random factors and cannot be
          specified.




          and further on




          Note, however, that
          the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the
          processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or
          stack pointer). The contents of these registers remain inde-
          terminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.








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            beat me to it, and you cite the same manual ;)

            – tofro
            9 hours ago












          • 2





            beat me to it, and you cite the same manual ;)

            – tofro
            9 hours ago







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          beat me to it, and you cite the same manual ;)

          – tofro
          9 hours ago





          beat me to it, and you cite the same manual ;)

          – tofro
          9 hours ago











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          According to the manual, the only thing that is explicitly set after RESET in the 8080 is the program counter. Everything else is indeterminate:




          Note, however,that the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or stackpointer). The contents of these registers remain indeterminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.




          If they don't initialize anything at all, it is very unlikely they'd initialize something that isn't even used.






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          • I like the 'unlikely' part :)) Except, for all ever visible to programmers, they will look like initialized. Cool, isn't it?

            – Raffzahn
            8 hours ago
















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          According to the manual, the only thing that is explicitly set after RESET in the 8080 is the program counter. Everything else is indeterminate:




          Note, however,that the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or stackpointer). The contents of these registers remain indeterminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.




          If they don't initialize anything at all, it is very unlikely they'd initialize something that isn't even used.






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          • I like the 'unlikely' part :)) Except, for all ever visible to programmers, they will look like initialized. Cool, isn't it?

            – Raffzahn
            8 hours ago














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          According to the manual, the only thing that is explicitly set after RESET in the 8080 is the program counter. Everything else is indeterminate:




          Note, however,that the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or stackpointer). The contents of these registers remain indeterminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.




          If they don't initialize anything at all, it is very unlikely they'd initialize something that isn't even used.






          share|improve this answer















          According to the manual, the only thing that is explicitly set after RESET in the 8080 is the program counter. Everything else is indeterminate:




          Note, however,that the RESET has no effect on status flags, or on any of the processor's working registers (accumulator, registers, or stackpointer). The contents of these registers remain indeterminate, until initialized explicitly by the program.




          If they don't initialize anything at all, it is very unlikely they'd initialize something that isn't even used.







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          • I like the 'unlikely' part :)) Except, for all ever visible to programmers, they will look like initialized. Cool, isn't it?

            – Raffzahn
            8 hours ago


















          • I like the 'unlikely' part :)) Except, for all ever visible to programmers, they will look like initialized. Cool, isn't it?

            – Raffzahn
            8 hours ago

















          I like the 'unlikely' part :)) Except, for all ever visible to programmers, they will look like initialized. Cool, isn't it?

          – Raffzahn
          8 hours ago






          I like the 'unlikely' part :)) Except, for all ever visible to programmers, they will look like initialized. Cool, isn't it?

          – Raffzahn
          8 hours ago












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