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The speed of a boat is 5Km/h in still water. It crosses a river of width 1km along the shortest path in 15 minutes.


A motorboat going downstream overcame a raft at a point A (Kinematics question)How to find the power of a jet engine?The vertical velocity of a ball hit by a bat is given in the following options. Which of them is right?Equation of motion of a body is $fracdvdt=-4v+8$ where is velocity in $m/s$ and $t$ is time.A particle is fired with velocity u making an angle $theta$ with the horizontal.A particle moves in such a way that its position varies with time t as $r=ti+fract^22j+tk$A person moving east finds wind blowing south. If he moves with thrice the velocity, he finds wind blowing southwest. What's wind speed?






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Velocity of the river is?




Since it covers 1km in 15 mins, the relative velocity of the boat with respect to the river will be
$$frac 14 V_br=1$$
$$V_br=4km/h$$
So $$V_b=V_br + V_r$$
$$V_r=1km/h$$
The right answer is 3km/h, so what am I doing wrong?










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    The flowing water will give lateral movement to the boat. Think of Pythagoras. Your initial calculation $V_br$ will reveal the velocity of water. The equality $V_b = V_br + V_r$ is equality of vectors.
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    You need to take into account, that velocities are vectors! In this case, it is sufficient to take them as 2-dimensional vectors. The Velocity is the absolute value of the velocity vector. Therefore: $v_b = sqrtv_br ^2 + v_r ^2$. Given $v_br=4$ and $v_b = 5$, you find $v_r=3$. (recall: $3^2+4^2=5^2$). Try to work out the details of the addition (what are the directions of the velocities!)
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Velocity of the river is?




Since it covers 1km in 15 mins, the relative velocity of the boat with respect to the river will be
$$frac 14 V_br=1$$
$$V_br=4km/h$$
So $$V_b=V_br + V_r$$
$$V_r=1km/h$$
The right answer is 3km/h, so what am I doing wrong?










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    $begingroup$
    The flowing water will give lateral movement to the boat. Think of Pythagoras. Your initial calculation $V_br$ will reveal the velocity of water. The equality $V_b = V_br + V_r$ is equality of vectors.
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    You need to take into account, that velocities are vectors! In this case, it is sufficient to take them as 2-dimensional vectors. The Velocity is the absolute value of the velocity vector. Therefore: $v_b = sqrtv_br ^2 + v_r ^2$. Given $v_br=4$ and $v_b = 5$, you find $v_r=3$. (recall: $3^2+4^2=5^2$). Try to work out the details of the addition (what are the directions of the velocities!)
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Velocity of the river is?




Since it covers 1km in 15 mins, the relative velocity of the boat with respect to the river will be
$$frac 14 V_br=1$$
$$V_br=4km/h$$
So $$V_b=V_br + V_r$$
$$V_r=1km/h$$
The right answer is 3km/h, so what am I doing wrong?










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Velocity of the river is?




Since it covers 1km in 15 mins, the relative velocity of the boat with respect to the river will be
$$frac 14 V_br=1$$
$$V_br=4km/h$$
So $$V_b=V_br + V_r$$
$$V_r=1km/h$$
The right answer is 3km/h, so what am I doing wrong?







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    The flowing water will give lateral movement to the boat. Think of Pythagoras. Your initial calculation $V_br$ will reveal the velocity of water. The equality $V_b = V_br + V_r$ is equality of vectors.
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    $begingroup$
    You need to take into account, that velocities are vectors! In this case, it is sufficient to take them as 2-dimensional vectors. The Velocity is the absolute value of the velocity vector. Therefore: $v_b = sqrtv_br ^2 + v_r ^2$. Given $v_br=4$ and $v_b = 5$, you find $v_r=3$. (recall: $3^2+4^2=5^2$). Try to work out the details of the addition (what are the directions of the velocities!)
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    Yeah, thought that, but since the angles weren’t given, I wasn’t sure about it.
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    $begingroup$
    The flowing water will give lateral movement to the boat. Think of Pythagoras. Your initial calculation $V_br$ will reveal the velocity of water. The equality $V_b = V_br + V_r$ is equality of vectors.
    $endgroup$
    – Alvin Lepik
    8 hours ago







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    $begingroup$
    You need to take into account, that velocities are vectors! In this case, it is sufficient to take them as 2-dimensional vectors. The Velocity is the absolute value of the velocity vector. Therefore: $v_b = sqrtv_br ^2 + v_r ^2$. Given $v_br=4$ and $v_b = 5$, you find $v_r=3$. (recall: $3^2+4^2=5^2$). Try to work out the details of the addition (what are the directions of the velocities!)
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    Yeah, thought that, but since the angles weren’t given, I wasn’t sure about it.
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The flowing water will give lateral movement to the boat. Think of Pythagoras. Your initial calculation $V_br$ will reveal the velocity of water. The equality $V_b = V_br + V_r$ is equality of vectors.
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The flowing water will give lateral movement to the boat. Think of Pythagoras. Your initial calculation $V_br$ will reveal the velocity of water. The equality $V_b = V_br + V_r$ is equality of vectors.
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You need to take into account, that velocities are vectors! In this case, it is sufficient to take them as 2-dimensional vectors. The Velocity is the absolute value of the velocity vector. Therefore: $v_b = sqrtv_br ^2 + v_r ^2$. Given $v_br=4$ and $v_b = 5$, you find $v_r=3$. (recall: $3^2+4^2=5^2$). Try to work out the details of the addition (what are the directions of the velocities!)
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You need to take into account, that velocities are vectors! In this case, it is sufficient to take them as 2-dimensional vectors. The Velocity is the absolute value of the velocity vector. Therefore: $v_b = sqrtv_br ^2 + v_r ^2$. Given $v_br=4$ and $v_b = 5$, you find $v_r=3$. (recall: $3^2+4^2=5^2$). Try to work out the details of the addition (what are the directions of the velocities!)
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$$V_b^2=V_br^2+ V_r^2$$



instead of



$$V_b=V_br + V_r$$



because the three velocity vectors are not in the same direction. Rather, they form a right triangle.



Then, you get



$$V_r = sqrt V_b^2 - V_br^2 = sqrt 5^2 - 4^2= 3 textkm/h$$






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    The only way to go along the shortest path is by tilting the boat against the river current. A good picture helps:
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    You're given $V_BW = 5kmph$ and $V_BS = 1km ~in~15min$ .

    You can find $V_WS$






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      You should use the equation



      $$V_b^2=V_br^2+ V_r^2$$



      instead of



      $$V_b=V_br + V_r$$



      because the three velocity vectors are not in the same direction. Rather, they form a right triangle.



      Then, you get



      $$V_r = sqrt V_b^2 - V_br^2 = sqrt 5^2 - 4^2= 3 textkm/h$$






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        You should use the equation



        $$V_b^2=V_br^2+ V_r^2$$



        instead of



        $$V_b=V_br + V_r$$



        because the three velocity vectors are not in the same direction. Rather, they form a right triangle.



        Then, you get



        $$V_r = sqrt V_b^2 - V_br^2 = sqrt 5^2 - 4^2= 3 textkm/h$$






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          You should use the equation



          $$V_b^2=V_br^2+ V_r^2$$



          instead of



          $$V_b=V_br + V_r$$



          because the three velocity vectors are not in the same direction. Rather, they form a right triangle.



          Then, you get



          $$V_r = sqrt V_b^2 - V_br^2 = sqrt 5^2 - 4^2= 3 textkm/h$$






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          You should use the equation



          $$V_b^2=V_br^2+ V_r^2$$



          instead of



          $$V_b=V_br + V_r$$



          because the three velocity vectors are not in the same direction. Rather, they form a right triangle.



          Then, you get



          $$V_r = sqrt V_b^2 - V_br^2 = sqrt 5^2 - 4^2= 3 textkm/h$$







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              The only way to go along the shortest path is by tilting the boat against the river current. A good picture helps:
              enter image description here



              You're given $V_BW = 5kmph$ and $V_BS = 1km ~in~15min$ .

              You can find $V_WS$






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                The only way to go along the shortest path is by tilting the boat against the river current. A good picture helps:
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                You're given $V_BW = 5kmph$ and $V_BS = 1km ~in~15min$ .

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                  You're given $V_BW = 5kmph$ and $V_BS = 1km ~in~15min$ .

                  You can find $V_WS$






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                  You're given $V_BW = 5kmph$ and $V_BS = 1km ~in~15min$ .

                  You can find $V_WS$







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