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What happens if discarding one or more cards during the discard phase triggers an effect that draws me cards?



The instance I have in mind is having The Gitrog Monster on the battlefield and more than seven cards in hand at the end of the turn.



What would happen when I discard one land card? Do I keep the card drawn or do I have to discard again?










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    What happens if discarding one or more cards during the discard phase triggers an effect that draws me cards?



    The instance I have in mind is having The Gitrog Monster on the battlefield and more than seven cards in hand at the end of the turn.



    What would happen when I discard one land card? Do I keep the card drawn or do I have to discard again?










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      What happens if discarding one or more cards during the discard phase triggers an effect that draws me cards?



      The instance I have in mind is having The Gitrog Monster on the battlefield and more than seven cards in hand at the end of the turn.



      What would happen when I discard one land card? Do I keep the card drawn or do I have to discard again?










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      What happens if discarding one or more cards during the discard phase triggers an effect that draws me cards?



      The instance I have in mind is having The Gitrog Monster on the battlefield and more than seven cards in hand at the end of the turn.



      What would happen when I discard one land card? Do I keep the card drawn or do I have to discard again?







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          The 'discard phase' doesn't exist anymore, it's part of the cleanup step:




          1. Cleanup Step

          514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.




          The Gitrog Monster's ability may trigger as a consequence of discarding land cards, so 514.3 applies:




          514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



          514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




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          So there will be another cleanup step, where (if your hand size exceeds 7) you again must discard cards in order to reduce it.






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            If you still have too many after everyone passes, you'll be forced to discard back down to your hand size.




            1. Cleanup Step

            514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



            514.2. Second, the following actions happen simultaneously: all damage marked on permanents (including phased-out permanents) is removed and all “until end of turn” and “this turn” effects end. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



            514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



            514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




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              The 'discard phase' doesn't exist anymore, it's part of the cleanup step:




              1. Cleanup Step

              514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.




              The Gitrog Monster's ability may trigger as a consequence of discarding land cards, so 514.3 applies:




              514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



              514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




              (emphasis mine)



              So there will be another cleanup step, where (if your hand size exceeds 7) you again must discard cards in order to reduce it.






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                The 'discard phase' doesn't exist anymore, it's part of the cleanup step:




                1. Cleanup Step

                514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.




                The Gitrog Monster's ability may trigger as a consequence of discarding land cards, so 514.3 applies:




                514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



                514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




                (emphasis mine)



                So there will be another cleanup step, where (if your hand size exceeds 7) you again must discard cards in order to reduce it.






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                  The 'discard phase' doesn't exist anymore, it's part of the cleanup step:




                  1. Cleanup Step

                  514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.




                  The Gitrog Monster's ability may trigger as a consequence of discarding land cards, so 514.3 applies:




                  514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



                  514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




                  (emphasis mine)



                  So there will be another cleanup step, where (if your hand size exceeds 7) you again must discard cards in order to reduce it.






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                  The 'discard phase' doesn't exist anymore, it's part of the cleanup step:




                  1. Cleanup Step

                  514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.




                  The Gitrog Monster's ability may trigger as a consequence of discarding land cards, so 514.3 applies:




                  514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



                  514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




                  (emphasis mine)



                  So there will be another cleanup step, where (if your hand size exceeds 7) you again must discard cards in order to reduce it.







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                      If you still have too many after everyone passes, you'll be forced to discard back down to your hand size.




                      1. Cleanup Step

                      514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



                      514.2. Second, the following actions happen simultaneously: all damage marked on permanents (including phased-out permanents) is removed and all “until end of turn” and “this turn” effects end. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



                      514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



                      514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




                      Emphasis mine.






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                        If you still have too many after everyone passes, you'll be forced to discard back down to your hand size.




                        1. Cleanup Step

                        514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



                        514.2. Second, the following actions happen simultaneously: all damage marked on permanents (including phased-out permanents) is removed and all “until end of turn” and “this turn” effects end. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



                        514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



                        514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




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                          If you still have too many after everyone passes, you'll be forced to discard back down to your hand size.




                          1. Cleanup Step

                          514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



                          514.2. Second, the following actions happen simultaneously: all damage marked on permanents (including phased-out permanents) is removed and all “until end of turn” and “this turn” effects end. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



                          514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



                          514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




                          Emphasis mine.






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                          If you still have too many after everyone passes, you'll be forced to discard back down to your hand size.




                          1. Cleanup Step

                          514.1. First, if the active player’s hand contains more cards than their maximum hand size (normally seven), they discard enough cards to reduce their hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



                          514.2. Second, the following actions happen simultaneously: all damage marked on permanents (including phased-out permanents) is removed and all “until end of turn” and “this turn” effects end. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.



                          514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:



                          514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.




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