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Bwv 639 Bach/Busoni note length and symbols


What are all these symbols in some old sheet music?Guitar slur. Need help on understanding notationsGeneral questions about piano sheet music notationQuestion about “The Place I'll Return to Someday” music sheetWhat are these small numbers, and squiggly lines on this guitar sheet musicDouble time signature and strange bar notation in BachHow to add extra rehearsal marks in orch. score in LilypondChord stretched across treble clef and bass clefWhat does this wavy downward arrow preceding a piano chord mean?Strange squished notes and can grace notes be tied? (is what I'm seeing a slur?)






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I am currently spending some time with this piece of music and I am a bit confused as to how long I should hold some of the notes and what some of the symbols mean.



In blue: Should i repeat/hold the lowest F?



In red: How long should I hold the Ab?



In yellow: Repeat/hold F?



In green: What does this connecting line between the notes mean?



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  • Good question - good answer of Lars Peter! I can’t explain the ties, but imaging an arrangement I would keep an I at them distributing those notes to the different voices in a setting for SATB.

    – Albrecht Hügli
    8 hours ago






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    Yes that does look odd doesn't it. It might be worth looking at some performances on YouTube (or elsewhere) and see what the "experts" do.

    – JimM
    8 hours ago











  • Blue is a tie: the note is repeated by the thumb but not by the pinkie. Yellow is a tied finger change: left thumb takes over from right thumb without repeating the note.

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I am currently spending some time with this piece of music and I am a bit confused as to how long I should hold some of the notes and what some of the symbols mean.



In blue: Should i repeat/hold the lowest F?



In red: How long should I hold the Ab?



In yellow: Repeat/hold F?



In green: What does this connecting line between the notes mean?



enter image description here



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  • Good question - good answer of Lars Peter! I can’t explain the ties, but imaging an arrangement I would keep an I at them distributing those notes to the different voices in a setting for SATB.

    – Albrecht Hügli
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    Yes that does look odd doesn't it. It might be worth looking at some performances on YouTube (or elsewhere) and see what the "experts" do.

    – JimM
    8 hours ago











  • Blue is a tie: the note is repeated by the thumb but not by the pinkie. Yellow is a tied finger change: left thumb takes over from right thumb without repeating the note.

    – user207421
    1 hour ago













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I am currently spending some time with this piece of music and I am a bit confused as to how long I should hold some of the notes and what some of the symbols mean.



In blue: Should i repeat/hold the lowest F?



In red: How long should I hold the Ab?



In yellow: Repeat/hold F?



In green: What does this connecting line between the notes mean?



enter image description here



Thank you










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I am currently spending some time with this piece of music and I am a bit confused as to how long I should hold some of the notes and what some of the symbols mean.



In blue: Should i repeat/hold the lowest F?



In red: How long should I hold the Ab?



In yellow: Repeat/hold F?



In green: What does this connecting line between the notes mean?



enter image description here



Thank you







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  • Good question - good answer of Lars Peter! I can’t explain the ties, but imaging an arrangement I would keep an I at them distributing those notes to the different voices in a setting for SATB.

    – Albrecht Hügli
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    Yes that does look odd doesn't it. It might be worth looking at some performances on YouTube (or elsewhere) and see what the "experts" do.

    – JimM
    8 hours ago











  • Blue is a tie: the note is repeated by the thumb but not by the pinkie. Yellow is a tied finger change: left thumb takes over from right thumb without repeating the note.

    – user207421
    1 hour ago

















  • Good question - good answer of Lars Peter! I can’t explain the ties, but imaging an arrangement I would keep an I at them distributing those notes to the different voices in a setting for SATB.

    – Albrecht Hügli
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    Yes that does look odd doesn't it. It might be worth looking at some performances on YouTube (or elsewhere) and see what the "experts" do.

    – JimM
    8 hours ago











  • Blue is a tie: the note is repeated by the thumb but not by the pinkie. Yellow is a tied finger change: left thumb takes over from right thumb without repeating the note.

    – user207421
    1 hour ago
















Good question - good answer of Lars Peter! I can’t explain the ties, but imaging an arrangement I would keep an I at them distributing those notes to the different voices in a setting for SATB.

– Albrecht Hügli
8 hours ago





Good question - good answer of Lars Peter! I can’t explain the ties, but imaging an arrangement I would keep an I at them distributing those notes to the different voices in a setting for SATB.

– Albrecht Hügli
8 hours ago




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Yes that does look odd doesn't it. It might be worth looking at some performances on YouTube (or elsewhere) and see what the "experts" do.

– JimM
8 hours ago





Yes that does look odd doesn't it. It might be worth looking at some performances on YouTube (or elsewhere) and see what the "experts" do.

– JimM
8 hours ago













Blue is a tie: the note is repeated by the thumb but not by the pinkie. Yellow is a tied finger change: left thumb takes over from right thumb without repeating the note.

– user207421
1 hour ago





Blue is a tie: the note is repeated by the thumb but not by the pinkie. Yellow is a tied finger change: left thumb takes over from right thumb without repeating the note.

– user207421
1 hour ago










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It is music original written for organ where you have more than one manual plus pedals. Busoni made piano editions of many of Bach's organ pieces and your image shows Busoni's piano version.



Maybe it can help to understand the voices in the music by looking at Bach's original and thereby understand what is going on. Below is an image from Bach's handwriting and an image where the 3 parts are written in 3 staffs. The sheet music can be found on IMSLP on this link: BWV 639



Fraction from BWV 639 Bach's handwriting:
BWV 639 Bach's handwriting



Fraction from BWV 639 Bach, the three parts notated in three staffs:
BWV Bach, three staffs






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    The blue circled tie is likely a slur because the german text under it says "bass smooth and stately" and the slur reinforces the technique you should be following for the bass line of the piece.



    the red circled tie is a slur from the a to the g, including the stemmed down f.



    the yellow circled section:

    - first tie is a slur from the bass note to the f so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.

    - second tie is a tie so the high f is still only sounded once



    the green circled section contains another slur so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.






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      It is music original written for organ where you have more than one manual plus pedals. Busoni made piano editions of many of Bach's organ pieces and your image shows Busoni's piano version.



      Maybe it can help to understand the voices in the music by looking at Bach's original and thereby understand what is going on. Below is an image from Bach's handwriting and an image where the 3 parts are written in 3 staffs. The sheet music can be found on IMSLP on this link: BWV 639



      Fraction from BWV 639 Bach's handwriting:
      BWV 639 Bach's handwriting



      Fraction from BWV 639 Bach, the three parts notated in three staffs:
      BWV Bach, three staffs






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        It is music original written for organ where you have more than one manual plus pedals. Busoni made piano editions of many of Bach's organ pieces and your image shows Busoni's piano version.



        Maybe it can help to understand the voices in the music by looking at Bach's original and thereby understand what is going on. Below is an image from Bach's handwriting and an image where the 3 parts are written in 3 staffs. The sheet music can be found on IMSLP on this link: BWV 639



        Fraction from BWV 639 Bach's handwriting:
        BWV 639 Bach's handwriting



        Fraction from BWV 639 Bach, the three parts notated in three staffs:
        BWV Bach, three staffs






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          It is music original written for organ where you have more than one manual plus pedals. Busoni made piano editions of many of Bach's organ pieces and your image shows Busoni's piano version.



          Maybe it can help to understand the voices in the music by looking at Bach's original and thereby understand what is going on. Below is an image from Bach's handwriting and an image where the 3 parts are written in 3 staffs. The sheet music can be found on IMSLP on this link: BWV 639



          Fraction from BWV 639 Bach's handwriting:
          BWV 639 Bach's handwriting



          Fraction from BWV 639 Bach, the three parts notated in three staffs:
          BWV Bach, three staffs






          share|improve this answer















          It is music original written for organ where you have more than one manual plus pedals. Busoni made piano editions of many of Bach's organ pieces and your image shows Busoni's piano version.



          Maybe it can help to understand the voices in the music by looking at Bach's original and thereby understand what is going on. Below is an image from Bach's handwriting and an image where the 3 parts are written in 3 staffs. The sheet music can be found on IMSLP on this link: BWV 639



          Fraction from BWV 639 Bach's handwriting:
          BWV 639 Bach's handwriting



          Fraction from BWV 639 Bach, the three parts notated in three staffs:
          BWV Bach, three staffs







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              The blue circled tie is likely a slur because the german text under it says "bass smooth and stately" and the slur reinforces the technique you should be following for the bass line of the piece.



              the red circled tie is a slur from the a to the g, including the stemmed down f.



              the yellow circled section:

              - first tie is a slur from the bass note to the f so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.

              - second tie is a tie so the high f is still only sounded once



              the green circled section contains another slur so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.






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                The blue circled tie is likely a slur because the german text under it says "bass smooth and stately" and the slur reinforces the technique you should be following for the bass line of the piece.



                the red circled tie is a slur from the a to the g, including the stemmed down f.



                the yellow circled section:

                - first tie is a slur from the bass note to the f so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.

                - second tie is a tie so the high f is still only sounded once



                the green circled section contains another slur so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.






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                  The blue circled tie is likely a slur because the german text under it says "bass smooth and stately" and the slur reinforces the technique you should be following for the bass line of the piece.



                  the red circled tie is a slur from the a to the g, including the stemmed down f.



                  the yellow circled section:

                  - first tie is a slur from the bass note to the f so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.

                  - second tie is a tie so the high f is still only sounded once



                  the green circled section contains another slur so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.






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                  The blue circled tie is likely a slur because the german text under it says "bass smooth and stately" and the slur reinforces the technique you should be following for the bass line of the piece.



                  the red circled tie is a slur from the a to the g, including the stemmed down f.



                  the yellow circled section:

                  - first tie is a slur from the bass note to the f so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.

                  - second tie is a tie so the high f is still only sounded once



                  the green circled section contains another slur so the high f is not sounded twice and specifically played after the low f.







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