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When using the Proficiency Dice optional rule, how should they be used in determining a character's Spell Save DC?


What is the spell attack bonus and spell save DC of a Thief using the Use Magic Device feature?How do I correctly convert enemy saving throws so that players roll all the dice?How do the Proficiency Dice optional rules interact with Passive Perception?Do I need to continue to save against Frightful Presence after a successful Polymorph?Can a Thief disarm an enemy using Sleight of hand as a bonus action?Can healing be considered negative damage for the purpose of the Wild Magic sorcerer's Spell Bombardment?Determining DCs for monster abilitiesHow do spells that require an ability check vs. the caster's spell save DC work?When a druid wild shapes to a beast that has double proficiency with a skill, should the druid's proficiency bonus be doubled with that skill?Do Multiclassed spellcasters add their ability modifier or proficiency bonus twice when determining spell save DC?






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Previously, I've allowed my players to use the proficiency dice optional rule (DMG, pg. 263). When I was asked how they should calculate their spell save DCs with the proficiency dice, I had them just use half the maximum of the die (which would be the same as the static proficiency bonus).



Since then, one of my players asked if they could roll their proficiency die each time when their spell save DC would be rolled against. I saw no reason to restrict them against it, especially since they were playing a Wild Magic Sorcerer.



Is there anything in RAW for how to use proficiency dice for a player's spell save DC? Asking as this is specifically an option presented in official material (DMG, pg. 263).










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    Previously, I've allowed my players to use the proficiency dice optional rule (DMG, pg. 263). When I was asked how they should calculate their spell save DCs with the proficiency dice, I had them just use half the maximum of the die (which would be the same as the static proficiency bonus).



    Since then, one of my players asked if they could roll their proficiency die each time when their spell save DC would be rolled against. I saw no reason to restrict them against it, especially since they were playing a Wild Magic Sorcerer.



    Is there anything in RAW for how to use proficiency dice for a player's spell save DC? Asking as this is specifically an option presented in official material (DMG, pg. 263).










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      Previously, I've allowed my players to use the proficiency dice optional rule (DMG, pg. 263). When I was asked how they should calculate their spell save DCs with the proficiency dice, I had them just use half the maximum of the die (which would be the same as the static proficiency bonus).



      Since then, one of my players asked if they could roll their proficiency die each time when their spell save DC would be rolled against. I saw no reason to restrict them against it, especially since they were playing a Wild Magic Sorcerer.



      Is there anything in RAW for how to use proficiency dice for a player's spell save DC? Asking as this is specifically an option presented in official material (DMG, pg. 263).










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      Previously, I've allowed my players to use the proficiency dice optional rule (DMG, pg. 263). When I was asked how they should calculate their spell save DCs with the proficiency dice, I had them just use half the maximum of the die (which would be the same as the static proficiency bonus).



      Since then, one of my players asked if they could roll their proficiency die each time when their spell save DC would be rolled against. I saw no reason to restrict them against it, especially since they were playing a Wild Magic Sorcerer.



      Is there anything in RAW for how to use proficiency dice for a player's spell save DC? Asking as this is specifically an option presented in official material (DMG, pg. 263).







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          This is not how the rule is intended




          Instead of adding a proficiency bonus to an ability check, an attack
          roll, or saving throw, the character's player rolls a die.




          Going by the text in the DMG, quoted above, proficiency dice are used only when making a roll. It does not completely replace a character's proficiency bonus. Using dice to replace proficiency outside of rolls is not intended by this variant. RAW does not deal with your question at all.



          As far as I am aware, this optional rule is not discussed in any other official book.






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            This is not how the rule is intended




            Instead of adding a proficiency bonus to an ability check, an attack
            roll, or saving throw, the character's player rolls a die.




            Going by the text in the DMG, quoted above, proficiency dice are used only when making a roll. It does not completely replace a character's proficiency bonus. Using dice to replace proficiency outside of rolls is not intended by this variant. RAW does not deal with your question at all.



            As far as I am aware, this optional rule is not discussed in any other official book.






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              This is not how the rule is intended




              Instead of adding a proficiency bonus to an ability check, an attack
              roll, or saving throw, the character's player rolls a die.




              Going by the text in the DMG, quoted above, proficiency dice are used only when making a roll. It does not completely replace a character's proficiency bonus. Using dice to replace proficiency outside of rolls is not intended by this variant. RAW does not deal with your question at all.



              As far as I am aware, this optional rule is not discussed in any other official book.






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                This is not how the rule is intended




                Instead of adding a proficiency bonus to an ability check, an attack
                roll, or saving throw, the character's player rolls a die.




                Going by the text in the DMG, quoted above, proficiency dice are used only when making a roll. It does not completely replace a character's proficiency bonus. Using dice to replace proficiency outside of rolls is not intended by this variant. RAW does not deal with your question at all.



                As far as I am aware, this optional rule is not discussed in any other official book.






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                This is not how the rule is intended




                Instead of adding a proficiency bonus to an ability check, an attack
                roll, or saving throw, the character's player rolls a die.




                Going by the text in the DMG, quoted above, proficiency dice are used only when making a roll. It does not completely replace a character's proficiency bonus. Using dice to replace proficiency outside of rolls is not intended by this variant. RAW does not deal with your question at all.



                As far as I am aware, this optional rule is not discussed in any other official book.







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