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saw some stuff that seems to mean I'll be soon laid-off; confront them about the fact I saw it or wait for the other shoe to drop?
I work at a medium-sized tech startup in the SF Bay Area in a tech/engineering-heavy role.
I feel that there’s a good chance I’ll be either terminated or laid off within the new few months.
First piece of evidence:
I saw a spreadsheet that rated every person in my subdivision with ratings from 1 to 5; I was the only person rated ‘1'. Also, I saw a comment the manager above my manager made about reducing my rating from 2 to 1 to “distinguish me from [the person rated a 2]”. I also saw a comment with “PIP?” listed for my row. (I understand PIP stands for performance improvement plan, which seems to be the first step towards firing someone).
Second piece of evidence:
I heard from another employee that my subdivision is being “restructured” and “dissolved,” with existing employees being distributed to other teams, and that as part of that, it’s likely that there will be some layoffs, too.
Question:
I don’t have too many options here, but one is to confront them and ask them about the spreadsheet; I believe this was shared with me unintentionally due to a mistake they made using Google Spreadsheets.
Would people recommend this?
Possible advantages to confronting:
I get closure rather than limbo; if they tell me I’m terminated, I can start putting full effort into interviewing elsewhere. If not, I can relax.
Possible disadvantages to confronting:
(1) I am terminated more quickly, and lose pay I would otherwise get; (2) if they’re on the fence about terminating me, they may feel the damage has already been done due to my finding about it, and decide to terminate me if they otherwise would have not; (3) if terminated rather than laid-off, I might not get severance pay.
Thanks for any advice/ help.
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TL;DR:
saw some stuff that seems to mean I'll be soon laid-off; confront them about the fact I saw it or wait for the other shoe to drop?
I work at a medium-sized tech startup in the SF Bay Area in a tech/engineering-heavy role.
I feel that there’s a good chance I’ll be either terminated or laid off within the new few months.
First piece of evidence:
I saw a spreadsheet that rated every person in my subdivision with ratings from 1 to 5; I was the only person rated ‘1'. Also, I saw a comment the manager above my manager made about reducing my rating from 2 to 1 to “distinguish me from [the person rated a 2]”. I also saw a comment with “PIP?” listed for my row. (I understand PIP stands for performance improvement plan, which seems to be the first step towards firing someone).
Second piece of evidence:
I heard from another employee that my subdivision is being “restructured” and “dissolved,” with existing employees being distributed to other teams, and that as part of that, it’s likely that there will be some layoffs, too.
Question:
I don’t have too many options here, but one is to confront them and ask them about the spreadsheet; I believe this was shared with me unintentionally due to a mistake they made using Google Spreadsheets.
Would people recommend this?
Possible advantages to confronting:
I get closure rather than limbo; if they tell me I’m terminated, I can start putting full effort into interviewing elsewhere. If not, I can relax.
Possible disadvantages to confronting:
(1) I am terminated more quickly, and lose pay I would otherwise get; (2) if they’re on the fence about terminating me, they may feel the damage has already been done due to my finding about it, and decide to terminate me if they otherwise would have not; (3) if terminated rather than laid-off, I might not get severance pay.
Thanks for any advice/ help.
termination performance layoff
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TL;DR:
saw some stuff that seems to mean I'll be soon laid-off; confront them about the fact I saw it or wait for the other shoe to drop?
I work at a medium-sized tech startup in the SF Bay Area in a tech/engineering-heavy role.
I feel that there’s a good chance I’ll be either terminated or laid off within the new few months.
First piece of evidence:
I saw a spreadsheet that rated every person in my subdivision with ratings from 1 to 5; I was the only person rated ‘1'. Also, I saw a comment the manager above my manager made about reducing my rating from 2 to 1 to “distinguish me from [the person rated a 2]”. I also saw a comment with “PIP?” listed for my row. (I understand PIP stands for performance improvement plan, which seems to be the first step towards firing someone).
Second piece of evidence:
I heard from another employee that my subdivision is being “restructured” and “dissolved,” with existing employees being distributed to other teams, and that as part of that, it’s likely that there will be some layoffs, too.
Question:
I don’t have too many options here, but one is to confront them and ask them about the spreadsheet; I believe this was shared with me unintentionally due to a mistake they made using Google Spreadsheets.
Would people recommend this?
Possible advantages to confronting:
I get closure rather than limbo; if they tell me I’m terminated, I can start putting full effort into interviewing elsewhere. If not, I can relax.
Possible disadvantages to confronting:
(1) I am terminated more quickly, and lose pay I would otherwise get; (2) if they’re on the fence about terminating me, they may feel the damage has already been done due to my finding about it, and decide to terminate me if they otherwise would have not; (3) if terminated rather than laid-off, I might not get severance pay.
Thanks for any advice/ help.
termination performance layoff
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TL;DR:
saw some stuff that seems to mean I'll be soon laid-off; confront them about the fact I saw it or wait for the other shoe to drop?
I work at a medium-sized tech startup in the SF Bay Area in a tech/engineering-heavy role.
I feel that there’s a good chance I’ll be either terminated or laid off within the new few months.
First piece of evidence:
I saw a spreadsheet that rated every person in my subdivision with ratings from 1 to 5; I was the only person rated ‘1'. Also, I saw a comment the manager above my manager made about reducing my rating from 2 to 1 to “distinguish me from [the person rated a 2]”. I also saw a comment with “PIP?” listed for my row. (I understand PIP stands for performance improvement plan, which seems to be the first step towards firing someone).
Second piece of evidence:
I heard from another employee that my subdivision is being “restructured” and “dissolved,” with existing employees being distributed to other teams, and that as part of that, it’s likely that there will be some layoffs, too.
Question:
I don’t have too many options here, but one is to confront them and ask them about the spreadsheet; I believe this was shared with me unintentionally due to a mistake they made using Google Spreadsheets.
Would people recommend this?
Possible advantages to confronting:
I get closure rather than limbo; if they tell me I’m terminated, I can start putting full effort into interviewing elsewhere. If not, I can relax.
Possible disadvantages to confronting:
(1) I am terminated more quickly, and lose pay I would otherwise get; (2) if they’re on the fence about terminating me, they may feel the damage has already been done due to my finding about it, and decide to terminate me if they otherwise would have not; (3) if terminated rather than laid-off, I might not get severance pay.
Thanks for any advice/ help.
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