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When to use flat or sharp in atonal music / accidentals rules for atonality?
Can a scale contain both a sharp and a flat note?Temporarily Changing Keys - Which accidentals to use?What is the difference between sharp note & flat note?Unusual AccidentalsIs it possible that a music piece written in a “flat key signature” contains sharp-accidentals (and vice versa)?Why are accidentals not just indicated next to the note in sheet music to make sight reading easier?The role of accidentals in this piece of musicSight reading piano pieces with sharp or flat key signatures using intervals
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In this example, Einojuhani Rautavaara sometimes uses flat and sometimes uses sharp in some chords.
Once it's atonal music, what're the rules for sharps and flats?
accidentals atonal
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In this example, Einojuhani Rautavaara sometimes uses flat and sometimes uses sharp in some chords.
Once it's atonal music, what're the rules for sharps and flats?
accidentals atonal
asked 8 hours ago
Rogério DecRogério Dec
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As far as I can tell, each composer uses his/her own rules.
– Your Uncle Bob
5 hours ago
Not true, uncle bob.
– jjmusicnotes
3 hours ago
I found some useful answers here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
@jjmusicnotes Well, I'm looking at some Messiaen scores and I'm struggling to see the rules you propose being implemented. And I can't see them in Unsuk Chin's piano études either. But that's just anecdotal evidence, of course.
– Your Uncle Bob
2 hours ago
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In this example, Einojuhani Rautavaara sometimes uses flat and sometimes uses sharp in some chords.
Once it's atonal music, what're the rules for sharps and flats?
accidentals atonal
asked 8 hours ago
Rogério DecRogério Dec
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In this example, Einojuhani Rautavaara sometimes uses flat and sometimes uses sharp in some chords.
Once it's atonal music, what're the rules for sharps and flats?
accidentals atonal
accidentals atonal
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As far as I can tell, each composer uses his/her own rules.
– Your Uncle Bob
5 hours ago
Not true, uncle bob.
– jjmusicnotes
3 hours ago
I found some useful answers here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
@jjmusicnotes Well, I'm looking at some Messiaen scores and I'm struggling to see the rules you propose being implemented. And I can't see them in Unsuk Chin's piano études either. But that's just anecdotal evidence, of course.
– Your Uncle Bob
2 hours ago
add a comment |
As far as I can tell, each composer uses his/her own rules.
– Your Uncle Bob
5 hours ago
Not true, uncle bob.
– jjmusicnotes
3 hours ago
I found some useful answers here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
@jjmusicnotes Well, I'm looking at some Messiaen scores and I'm struggling to see the rules you propose being implemented. And I can't see them in Unsuk Chin's piano études either. But that's just anecdotal evidence, of course.
– Your Uncle Bob
2 hours ago
As far as I can tell, each composer uses his/her own rules.
– Your Uncle Bob
5 hours ago
As far as I can tell, each composer uses his/her own rules.
– Your Uncle Bob
5 hours ago
Not true, uncle bob.
– jjmusicnotes
3 hours ago
Not true, uncle bob.
– jjmusicnotes
3 hours ago
I found some useful answers here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
I found some useful answers here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
@jjmusicnotes Well, I'm looking at some Messiaen scores and I'm struggling to see the rules you propose being implemented. And I can't see them in Unsuk Chin's piano études either. But that's just anecdotal evidence, of course.
– Your Uncle Bob
2 hours ago
@jjmusicnotes Well, I'm looking at some Messiaen scores and I'm struggling to see the rules you propose being implemented. And I can't see them in Unsuk Chin's piano études either. But that's just anecdotal evidence, of course.
– Your Uncle Bob
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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Fair question. Think about three things:
1.) Context (lots of sharps / flats already? Which would simplify the music?)
2.) The direction (sharps = up / flats = down)
3.) The instrument (strings more comfortable reading sharps / winds more comfortable with flats)
Make the decisions that make the most sense. The more you can simplify the music, the better.
answered 3 hours ago
jjmusicnotesjjmusicnotes
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Thanks, and as I said above, there are other good arguments here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece. If you want to help the community, could you add some of these arguments on your answer?
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
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Fair question. Think about three things:
1.) Context (lots of sharps / flats already? Which would simplify the music?)
2.) The direction (sharps = up / flats = down)
3.) The instrument (strings more comfortable reading sharps / winds more comfortable with flats)
Make the decisions that make the most sense. The more you can simplify the music, the better.
answered 3 hours ago
jjmusicnotesjjmusicnotes
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Thanks, and as I said above, there are other good arguments here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece. If you want to help the community, could you add some of these arguments on your answer?
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Fair question. Think about three things:
1.) Context (lots of sharps / flats already? Which would simplify the music?)
2.) The direction (sharps = up / flats = down)
3.) The instrument (strings more comfortable reading sharps / winds more comfortable with flats)
Make the decisions that make the most sense. The more you can simplify the music, the better.
answered 3 hours ago
jjmusicnotesjjmusicnotes
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Thanks, and as I said above, there are other good arguments here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece. If you want to help the community, could you add some of these arguments on your answer?
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Fair question. Think about three things:
1.) Context (lots of sharps / flats already? Which would simplify the music?)
2.) The direction (sharps = up / flats = down)
3.) The instrument (strings more comfortable reading sharps / winds more comfortable with flats)
Make the decisions that make the most sense. The more you can simplify the music, the better.
answered 3 hours ago
jjmusicnotesjjmusicnotes
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Fair question. Think about three things:
1.) Context (lots of sharps / flats already? Which would simplify the music?)
2.) The direction (sharps = up / flats = down)
3.) The instrument (strings more comfortable reading sharps / winds more comfortable with flats)
Make the decisions that make the most sense. The more you can simplify the music, the better.
answered 3 hours ago
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Thanks, and as I said above, there are other good arguments here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece. If you want to help the community, could you add some of these arguments on your answer?
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Thanks, and as I said above, there are other good arguments here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece. If you want to help the community, could you add some of these arguments on your answer?
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
Thanks, and as I said above, there are other good arguments here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece. If you want to help the community, could you add some of these arguments on your answer?
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
Thanks, and as I said above, there are other good arguments here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece. If you want to help the community, could you add some of these arguments on your answer?
– Rogério Dec
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As far as I can tell, each composer uses his/her own rules.
– Your Uncle Bob
5 hours ago
Not true, uncle bob.
– jjmusicnotes
3 hours ago
I found some useful answers here: youngcomposers.com/t20211/accidentals-in-an-atonal-piece
– Rogério Dec
3 hours ago
@jjmusicnotes Well, I'm looking at some Messiaen scores and I'm struggling to see the rules you propose being implemented. And I can't see them in Unsuk Chin's piano études either. But that's just anecdotal evidence, of course.
– Your Uncle Bob
2 hours ago