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Sign changes after taking the square root inequality. Why?
Confused where and why inequality sign changes when proving probability inequalityQuestion regarding inequality sign changes and negative divisorsInequality involving Square RootInequality with a square rootInequality involving square root exponentsWhat would be the result of taking the square root of this inequality?Square root inequality revisitedSquare root inequality cyclic
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I want to improve my theoretical background to make it rock solid.
Given
$(x - 2)^2 geq 1$
O learnt that taking the square root of boot sides yields
$| x -2| geq sqrt1$ or $| x - 2 | leq - sqrt1$
Here, I have two questions:
Why does taking the square root transforms it from $(something)^2$ to $|something|$? Why the "module" symbols?
I believe this is redundant, not really necessary. Am I right?
and
Why does the sign change direction?
I know this is because $x$ can be $ le 0$, so I need to go into a little bit more depth about the theory on swapping signs. As far as I can tell we only swap inequality sign when dividing or multiplying by a negative number
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I want to improve my theoretical background to make it rock solid.
Given
$(x - 2)^2 geq 1$
O learnt that taking the square root of boot sides yields
$| x -2| geq sqrt1$ or $| x - 2 | leq - sqrt1$
Here, I have two questions:
Why does taking the square root transforms it from $(something)^2$ to $|something|$? Why the "module" symbols?
I believe this is redundant, not really necessary. Am I right?
and
Why does the sign change direction?
I know this is because $x$ can be $ le 0$, so I need to go into a little bit more depth about the theory on swapping signs. As far as I can tell we only swap inequality sign when dividing or multiplying by a negative number
Thanks a lot in advance!
inequality
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$y^2ge1implies yge1 $ or $yle-1$; $|x-2|ge0gt-1$ so $|x-2|le-1$ doesn't make sense
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– J. W. Tanner
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perhaps you're confusing with $y^2ge1iff|y|ge1$
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When you wrote $p$ did you mean $x$?
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Yes - sorry. I meant "x" not "p". But your other 2 comments didn't help much
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I want to improve my theoretical background to make it rock solid.
Given
$(x - 2)^2 geq 1$
O learnt that taking the square root of boot sides yields
$| x -2| geq sqrt1$ or $| x - 2 | leq - sqrt1$
Here, I have two questions:
Why does taking the square root transforms it from $(something)^2$ to $|something|$? Why the "module" symbols?
I believe this is redundant, not really necessary. Am I right?
and
Why does the sign change direction?
I know this is because $x$ can be $ le 0$, so I need to go into a little bit more depth about the theory on swapping signs. As far as I can tell we only swap inequality sign when dividing or multiplying by a negative number
Thanks a lot in advance!
inequality
New contributor
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I want to improve my theoretical background to make it rock solid.
Given
$(x - 2)^2 geq 1$
O learnt that taking the square root of boot sides yields
$| x -2| geq sqrt1$ or $| x - 2 | leq - sqrt1$
Here, I have two questions:
Why does taking the square root transforms it from $(something)^2$ to $|something|$? Why the "module" symbols?
I believe this is redundant, not really necessary. Am I right?
and
Why does the sign change direction?
I know this is because $x$ can be $ le 0$, so I need to go into a little bit more depth about the theory on swapping signs. As far as I can tell we only swap inequality sign when dividing or multiplying by a negative number
Thanks a lot in advance!
inequality
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$y^2ge1implies yge1 $ or $yle-1$; $|x-2|ge0gt-1$ so $|x-2|le-1$ doesn't make sense
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perhaps you're confusing with $y^2ge1iff|y|ge1$
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When you wrote $p$ did you mean $x$?
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Yes - sorry. I meant "x" not "p". But your other 2 comments didn't help much
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$y^2ge1implies yge1 $ or $yle-1$; $|x-2|ge0gt-1$ so $|x-2|le-1$ doesn't make sense
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perhaps you're confusing with $y^2ge1iff|y|ge1$
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When you wrote $p$ did you mean $x$?
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Yes - sorry. I meant "x" not "p". But your other 2 comments didn't help much
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$y^2ge1implies yge1 $ or $yle-1$; $|x-2|ge0gt-1$ so $|x-2|le-1$ doesn't make sense
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$y^2ge1implies yge1 $ or $yle-1$; $|x-2|ge0gt-1$ so $|x-2|le-1$ doesn't make sense
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– J. W. Tanner
9 hours ago
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perhaps you're confusing with $y^2ge1iff|y|ge1$
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perhaps you're confusing with $y^2ge1iff|y|ge1$
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When you wrote $p$ did you mean $x$?
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When you wrote $p$ did you mean $x$?
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Yes - sorry. I meant "x" not "p". But your other 2 comments didn't help much
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Yes - sorry. I meant "x" not "p". But your other 2 comments didn't help much
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The chain of equivalent transformations should progress first to
$$
|x-2|gesqrt1=1
$$
and then to
$$
x-2le -1text or x-2ge 1.
$$
If $|u|ge a$, then
- either $uge 0$ and $u=|u|ge a$.
- or $u<0$ and $-u=|u|ge aiff ule -a$.
You can go from $u^2ge a^2$, $a>0$, to $|u|ge a$ because the square function is strictly monotonically increasing on the positive half-axis. Or just simply because in $$0le u^2-a^2=(|u|-a)(|u|+a)$$ you can divide out the positive second factor.
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$|x-2|le-sqrt1$ is redundant, since absolute values are never negative.
As for why the module, look at the graph of $x^2$. What values of $x$ give $x^2>1$, for example?
As for how you get a sign change, notice that $|x|>1$ means $x>1$ or $-x>1$, but the latter becomes $x<-1$ when you multiply both sides by $-1$, resulting in a sign change..
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I would say $|x-2|le-1$ is impossible, not that it's redundant
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shrugs I would say "$x$ or false" has a redundant "or false" part. But really the wording is mostly to match the OP.
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– Simply Beautiful Art
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I see what you mean now; "or $|x-2|le-1$" is redundant
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Ok - Got it. Good to also clarify this point. Thanks
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The absolute value of a positive number $n$ is $n.$
The absolute value of a negative number $n$ is $-n,$ which is a positive number.
(For example, $lvert -2rvert = -(-2) = 2.$)
The absolute value of zero is zero.
No matter what you start out with, you end up with a non-negative number
(that is, zero or positive).
You might have to use a negative sign ($-n$ instead of $n$) in order to get a result that isn't negative.
(If you start with zero, the negative sign doesn't matter, since $-0=0.$)
So $lvert x-2rvert,$ the absolute value of the number $x-2,$ is either
$x - 2$ or $-(x-2),$ whichever one of those is non-negative.
From $(p - 2)^2 geq 1$ you can conclude that
$lvert x-2rvert geq sqrt1 = 1,$ full stop.
That is one of the other properties of the absolute value.
There is no case where $lvert x-2rvert leq -sqrt1 = -1,$
because that would say that there is some number whose absolute value is negative, which cannot happen.
From the fact that $lvert x-2rvert geq 1,$ since you know that $lvert x-2rvert$
is actually either $x-2$ or $-(x-2),$ you know that one of the following two statements is true:
$$ x-2 geq 1 quadtextorquad -(x-2) geq 1. $$
If you like, you can rewrite $-(x-2) geq 1$ as $x-2 leq -1$;
reversing the signs on both sides of an inequality also reverses the direction of the inequality. Or you could write $-x + 2 geq 1$ and proceed from there.
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The key lies in understanding the square root function, which by definition should give a unique value. Unfortunately, there are always two candidates satisfying the equation $x^2=y,$ where $y> 0$ is given. Mathematicians have convened to choose the positive root satisfying this equation as the result of the square root operation. Thus taking the square root of a nonnegative quantity, say $x^2,$ always gives a nonnegative result. This operation is often symbolised by $sqrt,$ so that we always have $$sqrtx^2=|x|,$$ by definition. Thus, $sqrt 4 = 2,$ and not $-2.$ Hence, whenever you take the square root of an expression of the form $E(x,y,z,ldots)^2,$ you must have the result to be $|E(x,y,z,ldots)|.$
The sign does not change direction. If you have an inequality of the form $$x^2ge y,$$ where $yge 0,$ then you may take the square root of both sides (and the inequality is respected since the square-root function is monotonic), to get $$|x|ge sqrt y,$$ and the right hand side is uniquely defined by (1), so there's no negative value at all. Thus, applying this to your inequality, namely $$(x-2)^2ge 1,$$ we obtain $$|x-2|ge 1.$$ But if you want to solve this inequality, you don't need to take square roots at all. Just transpose and factor, to get $$(x-2)^2-1ge 0,$$ which gives $(x-2-1)(x-2+1)=(x-3)(x-1)ge 0,$ and so on.
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Great - Fully understood about the module. Didn't quite understand why you get $( x -2 -1)(x -2 +1)$ tho. I just don't know where the $+1$ came from. Nonetheless (x-3)(x-1) is another way to resolve the initial equation, so it makes sense.
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The chain of equivalent transformations should progress first to
$$
|x-2|gesqrt1=1
$$
and then to
$$
x-2le -1text or x-2ge 1.
$$
If $|u|ge a$, then
- either $uge 0$ and $u=|u|ge a$.
- or $u<0$ and $-u=|u|ge aiff ule -a$.
You can go from $u^2ge a^2$, $a>0$, to $|u|ge a$ because the square function is strictly monotonically increasing on the positive half-axis. Or just simply because in $$0le u^2-a^2=(|u|-a)(|u|+a)$$ you can divide out the positive second factor.
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The chain of equivalent transformations should progress first to
$$
|x-2|gesqrt1=1
$$
and then to
$$
x-2le -1text or x-2ge 1.
$$
If $|u|ge a$, then
- either $uge 0$ and $u=|u|ge a$.
- or $u<0$ and $-u=|u|ge aiff ule -a$.
You can go from $u^2ge a^2$, $a>0$, to $|u|ge a$ because the square function is strictly monotonically increasing on the positive half-axis. Or just simply because in $$0le u^2-a^2=(|u|-a)(|u|+a)$$ you can divide out the positive second factor.
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The chain of equivalent transformations should progress first to
$$
|x-2|gesqrt1=1
$$
and then to
$$
x-2le -1text or x-2ge 1.
$$
If $|u|ge a$, then
- either $uge 0$ and $u=|u|ge a$.
- or $u<0$ and $-u=|u|ge aiff ule -a$.
You can go from $u^2ge a^2$, $a>0$, to $|u|ge a$ because the square function is strictly monotonically increasing on the positive half-axis. Or just simply because in $$0le u^2-a^2=(|u|-a)(|u|+a)$$ you can divide out the positive second factor.
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The chain of equivalent transformations should progress first to
$$
|x-2|gesqrt1=1
$$
and then to
$$
x-2le -1text or x-2ge 1.
$$
If $|u|ge a$, then
- either $uge 0$ and $u=|u|ge a$.
- or $u<0$ and $-u=|u|ge aiff ule -a$.
You can go from $u^2ge a^2$, $a>0$, to $|u|ge a$ because the square function is strictly monotonically increasing on the positive half-axis. Or just simply because in $$0le u^2-a^2=(|u|-a)(|u|+a)$$ you can divide out the positive second factor.
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$|x-2|le-sqrt1$ is redundant, since absolute values are never negative.
As for why the module, look at the graph of $x^2$. What values of $x$ give $x^2>1$, for example?
As for how you get a sign change, notice that $|x|>1$ means $x>1$ or $-x>1$, but the latter becomes $x<-1$ when you multiply both sides by $-1$, resulting in a sign change..
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I would say $|x-2|le-1$ is impossible, not that it's redundant
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shrugs I would say "$x$ or false" has a redundant "or false" part. But really the wording is mostly to match the OP.
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– Simply Beautiful Art
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I see what you mean now; "or $|x-2|le-1$" is redundant
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Ok - Got it. Good to also clarify this point. Thanks
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$|x-2|le-sqrt1$ is redundant, since absolute values are never negative.
As for why the module, look at the graph of $x^2$. What values of $x$ give $x^2>1$, for example?
As for how you get a sign change, notice that $|x|>1$ means $x>1$ or $-x>1$, but the latter becomes $x<-1$ when you multiply both sides by $-1$, resulting in a sign change..
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I would say $|x-2|le-1$ is impossible, not that it's redundant
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– J. W. Tanner
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shrugs I would say "$x$ or false" has a redundant "or false" part. But really the wording is mostly to match the OP.
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– Simply Beautiful Art
8 hours ago
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I see what you mean now; "or $|x-2|le-1$" is redundant
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8 hours ago
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Ok - Got it. Good to also clarify this point. Thanks
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$|x-2|le-sqrt1$ is redundant, since absolute values are never negative.
As for why the module, look at the graph of $x^2$. What values of $x$ give $x^2>1$, for example?
As for how you get a sign change, notice that $|x|>1$ means $x>1$ or $-x>1$, but the latter becomes $x<-1$ when you multiply both sides by $-1$, resulting in a sign change..
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$|x-2|le-sqrt1$ is redundant, since absolute values are never negative.
As for why the module, look at the graph of $x^2$. What values of $x$ give $x^2>1$, for example?
As for how you get a sign change, notice that $|x|>1$ means $x>1$ or $-x>1$, but the latter becomes $x<-1$ when you multiply both sides by $-1$, resulting in a sign change..
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I would say $|x-2|le-1$ is impossible, not that it's redundant
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shrugs I would say "$x$ or false" has a redundant "or false" part. But really the wording is mostly to match the OP.
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I see what you mean now; "or $|x-2|le-1$" is redundant
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Ok - Got it. Good to also clarify this point. Thanks
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I would say $|x-2|le-1$ is impossible, not that it's redundant
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shrugs I would say "$x$ or false" has a redundant "or false" part. But really the wording is mostly to match the OP.
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– Simply Beautiful Art
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I see what you mean now; "or $|x-2|le-1$" is redundant
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Ok - Got it. Good to also clarify this point. Thanks
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I would say $|x-2|le-1$ is impossible, not that it's redundant
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I would say $|x-2|le-1$ is impossible, not that it's redundant
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shrugs I would say "$x$ or false" has a redundant "or false" part. But really the wording is mostly to match the OP.
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– Simply Beautiful Art
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shrugs I would say "$x$ or false" has a redundant "or false" part. But really the wording is mostly to match the OP.
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I see what you mean now; "or $|x-2|le-1$" is redundant
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I see what you mean now; "or $|x-2|le-1$" is redundant
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Ok - Got it. Good to also clarify this point. Thanks
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Ok - Got it. Good to also clarify this point. Thanks
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The absolute value of a positive number $n$ is $n.$
The absolute value of a negative number $n$ is $-n,$ which is a positive number.
(For example, $lvert -2rvert = -(-2) = 2.$)
The absolute value of zero is zero.
No matter what you start out with, you end up with a non-negative number
(that is, zero or positive).
You might have to use a negative sign ($-n$ instead of $n$) in order to get a result that isn't negative.
(If you start with zero, the negative sign doesn't matter, since $-0=0.$)
So $lvert x-2rvert,$ the absolute value of the number $x-2,$ is either
$x - 2$ or $-(x-2),$ whichever one of those is non-negative.
From $(p - 2)^2 geq 1$ you can conclude that
$lvert x-2rvert geq sqrt1 = 1,$ full stop.
That is one of the other properties of the absolute value.
There is no case where $lvert x-2rvert leq -sqrt1 = -1,$
because that would say that there is some number whose absolute value is negative, which cannot happen.
From the fact that $lvert x-2rvert geq 1,$ since you know that $lvert x-2rvert$
is actually either $x-2$ or $-(x-2),$ you know that one of the following two statements is true:
$$ x-2 geq 1 quadtextorquad -(x-2) geq 1. $$
If you like, you can rewrite $-(x-2) geq 1$ as $x-2 leq -1$;
reversing the signs on both sides of an inequality also reverses the direction of the inequality. Or you could write $-x + 2 geq 1$ and proceed from there.
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The absolute value of a positive number $n$ is $n.$
The absolute value of a negative number $n$ is $-n,$ which is a positive number.
(For example, $lvert -2rvert = -(-2) = 2.$)
The absolute value of zero is zero.
No matter what you start out with, you end up with a non-negative number
(that is, zero or positive).
You might have to use a negative sign ($-n$ instead of $n$) in order to get a result that isn't negative.
(If you start with zero, the negative sign doesn't matter, since $-0=0.$)
So $lvert x-2rvert,$ the absolute value of the number $x-2,$ is either
$x - 2$ or $-(x-2),$ whichever one of those is non-negative.
From $(p - 2)^2 geq 1$ you can conclude that
$lvert x-2rvert geq sqrt1 = 1,$ full stop.
That is one of the other properties of the absolute value.
There is no case where $lvert x-2rvert leq -sqrt1 = -1,$
because that would say that there is some number whose absolute value is negative, which cannot happen.
From the fact that $lvert x-2rvert geq 1,$ since you know that $lvert x-2rvert$
is actually either $x-2$ or $-(x-2),$ you know that one of the following two statements is true:
$$ x-2 geq 1 quadtextorquad -(x-2) geq 1. $$
If you like, you can rewrite $-(x-2) geq 1$ as $x-2 leq -1$;
reversing the signs on both sides of an inequality also reverses the direction of the inequality. Or you could write $-x + 2 geq 1$ and proceed from there.
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The absolute value of a positive number $n$ is $n.$
The absolute value of a negative number $n$ is $-n,$ which is a positive number.
(For example, $lvert -2rvert = -(-2) = 2.$)
The absolute value of zero is zero.
No matter what you start out with, you end up with a non-negative number
(that is, zero or positive).
You might have to use a negative sign ($-n$ instead of $n$) in order to get a result that isn't negative.
(If you start with zero, the negative sign doesn't matter, since $-0=0.$)
So $lvert x-2rvert,$ the absolute value of the number $x-2,$ is either
$x - 2$ or $-(x-2),$ whichever one of those is non-negative.
From $(p - 2)^2 geq 1$ you can conclude that
$lvert x-2rvert geq sqrt1 = 1,$ full stop.
That is one of the other properties of the absolute value.
There is no case where $lvert x-2rvert leq -sqrt1 = -1,$
because that would say that there is some number whose absolute value is negative, which cannot happen.
From the fact that $lvert x-2rvert geq 1,$ since you know that $lvert x-2rvert$
is actually either $x-2$ or $-(x-2),$ you know that one of the following two statements is true:
$$ x-2 geq 1 quadtextorquad -(x-2) geq 1. $$
If you like, you can rewrite $-(x-2) geq 1$ as $x-2 leq -1$;
reversing the signs on both sides of an inequality also reverses the direction of the inequality. Or you could write $-x + 2 geq 1$ and proceed from there.
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The absolute value of a positive number $n$ is $n.$
The absolute value of a negative number $n$ is $-n,$ which is a positive number.
(For example, $lvert -2rvert = -(-2) = 2.$)
The absolute value of zero is zero.
No matter what you start out with, you end up with a non-negative number
(that is, zero or positive).
You might have to use a negative sign ($-n$ instead of $n$) in order to get a result that isn't negative.
(If you start with zero, the negative sign doesn't matter, since $-0=0.$)
So $lvert x-2rvert,$ the absolute value of the number $x-2,$ is either
$x - 2$ or $-(x-2),$ whichever one of those is non-negative.
From $(p - 2)^2 geq 1$ you can conclude that
$lvert x-2rvert geq sqrt1 = 1,$ full stop.
That is one of the other properties of the absolute value.
There is no case where $lvert x-2rvert leq -sqrt1 = -1,$
because that would say that there is some number whose absolute value is negative, which cannot happen.
From the fact that $lvert x-2rvert geq 1,$ since you know that $lvert x-2rvert$
is actually either $x-2$ or $-(x-2),$ you know that one of the following two statements is true:
$$ x-2 geq 1 quadtextorquad -(x-2) geq 1. $$
If you like, you can rewrite $-(x-2) geq 1$ as $x-2 leq -1$;
reversing the signs on both sides of an inequality also reverses the direction of the inequality. Or you could write $-x + 2 geq 1$ and proceed from there.
answered 8 hours ago
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The key lies in understanding the square root function, which by definition should give a unique value. Unfortunately, there are always two candidates satisfying the equation $x^2=y,$ where $y> 0$ is given. Mathematicians have convened to choose the positive root satisfying this equation as the result of the square root operation. Thus taking the square root of a nonnegative quantity, say $x^2,$ always gives a nonnegative result. This operation is often symbolised by $sqrt,$ so that we always have $$sqrtx^2=|x|,$$ by definition. Thus, $sqrt 4 = 2,$ and not $-2.$ Hence, whenever you take the square root of an expression of the form $E(x,y,z,ldots)^2,$ you must have the result to be $|E(x,y,z,ldots)|.$
The sign does not change direction. If you have an inequality of the form $$x^2ge y,$$ where $yge 0,$ then you may take the square root of both sides (and the inequality is respected since the square-root function is monotonic), to get $$|x|ge sqrt y,$$ and the right hand side is uniquely defined by (1), so there's no negative value at all. Thus, applying this to your inequality, namely $$(x-2)^2ge 1,$$ we obtain $$|x-2|ge 1.$$ But if you want to solve this inequality, you don't need to take square roots at all. Just transpose and factor, to get $$(x-2)^2-1ge 0,$$ which gives $(x-2-1)(x-2+1)=(x-3)(x-1)ge 0,$ and so on.
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Great - Fully understood about the module. Didn't quite understand why you get $( x -2 -1)(x -2 +1)$ tho. I just don't know where the $+1$ came from. Nonetheless (x-3)(x-1) is another way to resolve the initial equation, so it makes sense.
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6 hours ago
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The key lies in understanding the square root function, which by definition should give a unique value. Unfortunately, there are always two candidates satisfying the equation $x^2=y,$ where $y> 0$ is given. Mathematicians have convened to choose the positive root satisfying this equation as the result of the square root operation. Thus taking the square root of a nonnegative quantity, say $x^2,$ always gives a nonnegative result. This operation is often symbolised by $sqrt,$ so that we always have $$sqrtx^2=|x|,$$ by definition. Thus, $sqrt 4 = 2,$ and not $-2.$ Hence, whenever you take the square root of an expression of the form $E(x,y,z,ldots)^2,$ you must have the result to be $|E(x,y,z,ldots)|.$
The sign does not change direction. If you have an inequality of the form $$x^2ge y,$$ where $yge 0,$ then you may take the square root of both sides (and the inequality is respected since the square-root function is monotonic), to get $$|x|ge sqrt y,$$ and the right hand side is uniquely defined by (1), so there's no negative value at all. Thus, applying this to your inequality, namely $$(x-2)^2ge 1,$$ we obtain $$|x-2|ge 1.$$ But if you want to solve this inequality, you don't need to take square roots at all. Just transpose and factor, to get $$(x-2)^2-1ge 0,$$ which gives $(x-2-1)(x-2+1)=(x-3)(x-1)ge 0,$ and so on.
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Great - Fully understood about the module. Didn't quite understand why you get $( x -2 -1)(x -2 +1)$ tho. I just don't know where the $+1$ came from. Nonetheless (x-3)(x-1) is another way to resolve the initial equation, so it makes sense.
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– Batmaths
6 hours ago
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The key lies in understanding the square root function, which by definition should give a unique value. Unfortunately, there are always two candidates satisfying the equation $x^2=y,$ where $y> 0$ is given. Mathematicians have convened to choose the positive root satisfying this equation as the result of the square root operation. Thus taking the square root of a nonnegative quantity, say $x^2,$ always gives a nonnegative result. This operation is often symbolised by $sqrt,$ so that we always have $$sqrtx^2=|x|,$$ by definition. Thus, $sqrt 4 = 2,$ and not $-2.$ Hence, whenever you take the square root of an expression of the form $E(x,y,z,ldots)^2,$ you must have the result to be $|E(x,y,z,ldots)|.$
The sign does not change direction. If you have an inequality of the form $$x^2ge y,$$ where $yge 0,$ then you may take the square root of both sides (and the inequality is respected since the square-root function is monotonic), to get $$|x|ge sqrt y,$$ and the right hand side is uniquely defined by (1), so there's no negative value at all. Thus, applying this to your inequality, namely $$(x-2)^2ge 1,$$ we obtain $$|x-2|ge 1.$$ But if you want to solve this inequality, you don't need to take square roots at all. Just transpose and factor, to get $$(x-2)^2-1ge 0,$$ which gives $(x-2-1)(x-2+1)=(x-3)(x-1)ge 0,$ and so on.
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The key lies in understanding the square root function, which by definition should give a unique value. Unfortunately, there are always two candidates satisfying the equation $x^2=y,$ where $y> 0$ is given. Mathematicians have convened to choose the positive root satisfying this equation as the result of the square root operation. Thus taking the square root of a nonnegative quantity, say $x^2,$ always gives a nonnegative result. This operation is often symbolised by $sqrt,$ so that we always have $$sqrtx^2=|x|,$$ by definition. Thus, $sqrt 4 = 2,$ and not $-2.$ Hence, whenever you take the square root of an expression of the form $E(x,y,z,ldots)^2,$ you must have the result to be $|E(x,y,z,ldots)|.$
The sign does not change direction. If you have an inequality of the form $$x^2ge y,$$ where $yge 0,$ then you may take the square root of both sides (and the inequality is respected since the square-root function is monotonic), to get $$|x|ge sqrt y,$$ and the right hand side is uniquely defined by (1), so there's no negative value at all. Thus, applying this to your inequality, namely $$(x-2)^2ge 1,$$ we obtain $$|x-2|ge 1.$$ But if you want to solve this inequality, you don't need to take square roots at all. Just transpose and factor, to get $$(x-2)^2-1ge 0,$$ which gives $(x-2-1)(x-2+1)=(x-3)(x-1)ge 0,$ and so on.
answered 7 hours ago
AllawonderAllawonder
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Great - Fully understood about the module. Didn't quite understand why you get $( x -2 -1)(x -2 +1)$ tho. I just don't know where the $+1$ came from. Nonetheless (x-3)(x-1) is another way to resolve the initial equation, so it makes sense.
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– Batmaths
6 hours ago
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Great - Fully understood about the module. Didn't quite understand why you get $( x -2 -1)(x -2 +1)$ tho. I just don't know where the $+1$ came from. Nonetheless (x-3)(x-1) is another way to resolve the initial equation, so it makes sense.
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– Batmaths
6 hours ago
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Great - Fully understood about the module. Didn't quite understand why you get $( x -2 -1)(x -2 +1)$ tho. I just don't know where the $+1$ came from. Nonetheless (x-3)(x-1) is another way to resolve the initial equation, so it makes sense.
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– Batmaths
6 hours ago
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Great - Fully understood about the module. Didn't quite understand why you get $( x -2 -1)(x -2 +1)$ tho. I just don't know where the $+1$ came from. Nonetheless (x-3)(x-1) is another way to resolve the initial equation, so it makes sense.
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– Batmaths
6 hours ago
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$y^2ge1implies yge1 $ or $yle-1$; $|x-2|ge0gt-1$ so $|x-2|le-1$ doesn't make sense
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– J. W. Tanner
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perhaps you're confusing with $y^2ge1iff|y|ge1$
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– J. W. Tanner
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When you wrote $p$ did you mean $x$?
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– J. W. Tanner
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Yes - sorry. I meant "x" not "p". But your other 2 comments didn't help much
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