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I am starting a PhD this Fall, and I'm absolutely terrified that I'm nowhere close enough to the "frontier of knowledge" to enable me to do quality research.
For background purposes, I have a BSc in Chemical Engineering and a BSc in Pure and Applied Mathematics. I finished both of these simultaneously in a 4 year span, as my philosophy was always that I need to be as efficient in my learning as possible and race to that mythical place where the edge of knowledge resides. The issue, however, is that it's now all too clear to me that I'll never be quite where I initially envisioned I would be before starting my PhD.
It is also clear that I have a lot to learn before being able to contribute significantly to the project I'm being placed on, and I worry that I'll spend too much time taking classes and learning what's already known, and not enough time exploring what is not known. This is all made worse by the fact that my PhD will be mostly theoretical in nature, so I feel that the lag time between when I am done "training" and when I can start publishing papers is significant. I did a lot of experimental research in my undergrad, and it was clear to me there that this problem does not exist in as dire a form as the path I chose to go down (and that I am actually excited to go down).
To be clear I am not expecting to make monumental revelations in my PhD, and I don't think anyone is really expecting me to do that either. I am just wondering how someone that carries out theoretically/computationally focused research decides when "enough is enough" and stops taking classes. In sorting out my class schedule for this Fall, I am worried that my addiction from undergrad of taking as many courses as possible will interfere with my research, and at the same time I am not confident that I know enough to conduct research of any sort at the moment.
So if your PhD was largely theoretical and computational in nature, I guess I'm wondering how you were able to balance learning and researching? Anything you wish you did differently? Is it normal to spend a couple years accruing knowledge and not publishing much? Do you have any books/resources you recommend that deal with this sort of dilemma?
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I am starting a PhD this Fall, and I'm absolutely terrified that I'm nowhere close enough to the "frontier of knowledge" to enable me to do quality research.
For background purposes, I have a BSc in Chemical Engineering and a BSc in Pure and Applied Mathematics. I finished both of these simultaneously in a 4 year span, as my philosophy was always that I need to be as efficient in my learning as possible and race to that mythical place where the edge of knowledge resides. The issue, however, is that it's now all too clear to me that I'll never be quite where I initially envisioned I would be before starting my PhD.
It is also clear that I have a lot to learn before being able to contribute significantly to the project I'm being placed on, and I worry that I'll spend too much time taking classes and learning what's already known, and not enough time exploring what is not known. This is all made worse by the fact that my PhD will be mostly theoretical in nature, so I feel that the lag time between when I am done "training" and when I can start publishing papers is significant. I did a lot of experimental research in my undergrad, and it was clear to me there that this problem does not exist in as dire a form as the path I chose to go down (and that I am actually excited to go down).
To be clear I am not expecting to make monumental revelations in my PhD, and I don't think anyone is really expecting me to do that either. I am just wondering how someone that carries out theoretically/computationally focused research decides when "enough is enough" and stops taking classes. In sorting out my class schedule for this Fall, I am worried that my addiction from undergrad of taking as many courses as possible will interfere with my research, and at the same time I am not confident that I know enough to conduct research of any sort at the moment.
So if your PhD was largely theoretical and computational in nature, I guess I'm wondering how you were able to balance learning and researching? Anything you wish you did differently? Is it normal to spend a couple years accruing knowledge and not publishing much? Do you have any books/resources you recommend that deal with this sort of dilemma?
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Is the question about classes per se, or it is about the desirability of further study and enhancing scholarship?
– paul garrett
8 hours ago
@paulgarrett Great question. I don't think I'm asking about desirability so much as necessity. Really I'm looking for general guiding principles on how to best approach a PhD that's largely theoretical. I worry about this because I can envision a trap where I spend all my time "enhancing scholarship" - whether it's through classes, reading papers, or some other method - and not enough time contributing to new publications in my lab group.
– AlkaKadri
8 hours ago
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Nobody expects you to be at the frontier of knowledge when you start your PhD :-)
– Flyto
7 hours ago
@Flyto Thank you for your reassurance! My concern, however, is more so about what's a reasonable amount of time to spend on reaching that frontier? But perhaps that's a terrible question and something I'll need to figure out for myself.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
Note that the structure of a PhD can be quite different depending on the country, so you might want to add a location tag to your question if you want more specific advice. Anyway I tried to give you the general idea, hope it helps.
– Erwan
7 hours ago
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I am starting a PhD this Fall, and I'm absolutely terrified that I'm nowhere close enough to the "frontier of knowledge" to enable me to do quality research.
For background purposes, I have a BSc in Chemical Engineering and a BSc in Pure and Applied Mathematics. I finished both of these simultaneously in a 4 year span, as my philosophy was always that I need to be as efficient in my learning as possible and race to that mythical place where the edge of knowledge resides. The issue, however, is that it's now all too clear to me that I'll never be quite where I initially envisioned I would be before starting my PhD.
It is also clear that I have a lot to learn before being able to contribute significantly to the project I'm being placed on, and I worry that I'll spend too much time taking classes and learning what's already known, and not enough time exploring what is not known. This is all made worse by the fact that my PhD will be mostly theoretical in nature, so I feel that the lag time between when I am done "training" and when I can start publishing papers is significant. I did a lot of experimental research in my undergrad, and it was clear to me there that this problem does not exist in as dire a form as the path I chose to go down (and that I am actually excited to go down).
To be clear I am not expecting to make monumental revelations in my PhD, and I don't think anyone is really expecting me to do that either. I am just wondering how someone that carries out theoretically/computationally focused research decides when "enough is enough" and stops taking classes. In sorting out my class schedule for this Fall, I am worried that my addiction from undergrad of taking as many courses as possible will interfere with my research, and at the same time I am not confident that I know enough to conduct research of any sort at the moment.
So if your PhD was largely theoretical and computational in nature, I guess I'm wondering how you were able to balance learning and researching? Anything you wish you did differently? Is it normal to spend a couple years accruing knowledge and not publishing much? Do you have any books/resources you recommend that deal with this sort of dilemma?
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I am starting a PhD this Fall, and I'm absolutely terrified that I'm nowhere close enough to the "frontier of knowledge" to enable me to do quality research.
For background purposes, I have a BSc in Chemical Engineering and a BSc in Pure and Applied Mathematics. I finished both of these simultaneously in a 4 year span, as my philosophy was always that I need to be as efficient in my learning as possible and race to that mythical place where the edge of knowledge resides. The issue, however, is that it's now all too clear to me that I'll never be quite where I initially envisioned I would be before starting my PhD.
It is also clear that I have a lot to learn before being able to contribute significantly to the project I'm being placed on, and I worry that I'll spend too much time taking classes and learning what's already known, and not enough time exploring what is not known. This is all made worse by the fact that my PhD will be mostly theoretical in nature, so I feel that the lag time between when I am done "training" and when I can start publishing papers is significant. I did a lot of experimental research in my undergrad, and it was clear to me there that this problem does not exist in as dire a form as the path I chose to go down (and that I am actually excited to go down).
To be clear I am not expecting to make monumental revelations in my PhD, and I don't think anyone is really expecting me to do that either. I am just wondering how someone that carries out theoretically/computationally focused research decides when "enough is enough" and stops taking classes. In sorting out my class schedule for this Fall, I am worried that my addiction from undergrad of taking as many courses as possible will interfere with my research, and at the same time I am not confident that I know enough to conduct research of any sort at the moment.
So if your PhD was largely theoretical and computational in nature, I guess I'm wondering how you were able to balance learning and researching? Anything you wish you did differently? Is it normal to spend a couple years accruing knowledge and not publishing much? Do you have any books/resources you recommend that deal with this sort of dilemma?
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Is the question about classes per se, or it is about the desirability of further study and enhancing scholarship?
– paul garrett
8 hours ago
@paulgarrett Great question. I don't think I'm asking about desirability so much as necessity. Really I'm looking for general guiding principles on how to best approach a PhD that's largely theoretical. I worry about this because I can envision a trap where I spend all my time "enhancing scholarship" - whether it's through classes, reading papers, or some other method - and not enough time contributing to new publications in my lab group.
– AlkaKadri
8 hours ago
1
Nobody expects you to be at the frontier of knowledge when you start your PhD :-)
– Flyto
7 hours ago
@Flyto Thank you for your reassurance! My concern, however, is more so about what's a reasonable amount of time to spend on reaching that frontier? But perhaps that's a terrible question and something I'll need to figure out for myself.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
Note that the structure of a PhD can be quite different depending on the country, so you might want to add a location tag to your question if you want more specific advice. Anyway I tried to give you the general idea, hope it helps.
– Erwan
7 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
Is the question about classes per se, or it is about the desirability of further study and enhancing scholarship?
– paul garrett
8 hours ago
@paulgarrett Great question. I don't think I'm asking about desirability so much as necessity. Really I'm looking for general guiding principles on how to best approach a PhD that's largely theoretical. I worry about this because I can envision a trap where I spend all my time "enhancing scholarship" - whether it's through classes, reading papers, or some other method - and not enough time contributing to new publications in my lab group.
– AlkaKadri
8 hours ago
1
Nobody expects you to be at the frontier of knowledge when you start your PhD :-)
– Flyto
7 hours ago
@Flyto Thank you for your reassurance! My concern, however, is more so about what's a reasonable amount of time to spend on reaching that frontier? But perhaps that's a terrible question and something I'll need to figure out for myself.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
Note that the structure of a PhD can be quite different depending on the country, so you might want to add a location tag to your question if you want more specific advice. Anyway I tried to give you the general idea, hope it helps.
– Erwan
7 hours ago
Is the question about classes per se, or it is about the desirability of further study and enhancing scholarship?
– paul garrett
8 hours ago
Is the question about classes per se, or it is about the desirability of further study and enhancing scholarship?
– paul garrett
8 hours ago
@paulgarrett Great question. I don't think I'm asking about desirability so much as necessity. Really I'm looking for general guiding principles on how to best approach a PhD that's largely theoretical. I worry about this because I can envision a trap where I spend all my time "enhancing scholarship" - whether it's through classes, reading papers, or some other method - and not enough time contributing to new publications in my lab group.
– AlkaKadri
8 hours ago
@paulgarrett Great question. I don't think I'm asking about desirability so much as necessity. Really I'm looking for general guiding principles on how to best approach a PhD that's largely theoretical. I worry about this because I can envision a trap where I spend all my time "enhancing scholarship" - whether it's through classes, reading papers, or some other method - and not enough time contributing to new publications in my lab group.
– AlkaKadri
8 hours ago
1
1
Nobody expects you to be at the frontier of knowledge when you start your PhD :-)
– Flyto
7 hours ago
Nobody expects you to be at the frontier of knowledge when you start your PhD :-)
– Flyto
7 hours ago
@Flyto Thank you for your reassurance! My concern, however, is more so about what's a reasonable amount of time to spend on reaching that frontier? But perhaps that's a terrible question and something I'll need to figure out for myself.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
@Flyto Thank you for your reassurance! My concern, however, is more so about what's a reasonable amount of time to spend on reaching that frontier? But perhaps that's a terrible question and something I'll need to figure out for myself.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
Note that the structure of a PhD can be quite different depending on the country, so you might want to add a location tag to your question if you want more specific advice. Anyway I tried to give you the general idea, hope it helps.
– Erwan
7 hours ago
Note that the structure of a PhD can be quite different depending on the country, so you might want to add a location tag to your question if you want more specific advice. Anyway I tried to give you the general idea, hope it helps.
– Erwan
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I sympathise completely with your situation, as I went through exactly that thought process when I began my PhD. I am in my second year.
I did not begin my PhD with a tightly defined research question, and I would guess that you are not doing so either. I did have an idea of what general area of research interested me and spent a lot of time looking at published papers. Sometimes, while reading a paper, I realised that I needed more general understanding of that topic, and then read text books, or attended classes.
I also attended seminars and such like, to get some idea about how other researchers in my general field go about their work. And I volunteered to give talks on quite general subjects in my broad field, on the basis the best way to learn a subject is to try and teach it to somebody else. I have been surprised by how much of that haphazardly gathered learning has turned out to be helpful in my own very specific research - sometimes directly relevant but more often by suggesting ideas to me about a way of looking at a problem.
I thought, and still think, that it would be a mistake to take classes and read textbooks until I was at the frontier of knowledge, because I would never reach the frontier that way.
What I did instead, after reading, more or less deeply, a few hundred papers, was to realise that none of them really addressed a particular question that I was interested in. Having, almost inadvertently, identified a specific research question, I could then conduct a very intense literature review to confirm, or otherwise, that nobody else had researched that question.
Guess what! I had reached the frontier of knowledge. I am now in the process of seeing if I can push the frontier further out.
This is a wonderful story, thank you for sharing Jeremy! I definitely don't have a tightly defined problem that I'm working on, but I do have a pretty specific domain I know I'll be working in so I suppose my situation could be worse. "A few hundred papers" is mega impressive for being in your second year. I think your method of reading papers and attending seminars addresses my concerns. There are many frontiers of knowledge, each requiring more/less knowledge to access, and I'll probably be working hard with my adviser/reading papers to find a suitable one to push out.
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Unsurprisingly, there is no one-size-fits-all method for balancing the tasks of acquiring knowledge and producing knowledge. It is a very common concern for starting PhD students like you, but in the vast majority of cases things work out fine. I'll try to explain why and how:
Acquiring and producing knowledge are not mutually incompatible tasks. In fact, they are often fruitfully combined with each other. For example, one may read a paper which gives them an idea for a new approach in their work; conversely, one may stumble upon a problem in their research and switch to discovering how existing works deal with the same kind of problem. The balance is achieved by keeping a flexible goal-oriented approach, by this I mean that it combines two aspects:
- Nobody can know everything in their field, so researchers don't try to achieve that. Instead they focus on the topics which are susceptible of contributing to their own research. That's the in-depth aspect of acquiring new knowledge: choosing what one needs to know in order to progress in their own research goals and study every detail of it.
- On the other hand, researchers need to keep up to date with the major discoveries in their field. But for that they don't need to know or even understand every detail of every single new paper, they can skim through abstracts/papers and select whether they want to dive deeper depending on their goals (or depending on how soon their next deadline is). That's the in-breadth aspect.
Naturally figuring out one's methodology, for example recognizing the papers of interest, takes some learning. Well, that's exactly what a PhD is for: a PhD student is a researcher in training. It's understood that they are not immediately operational and that they need to acquire a lot of new knowledge, both in their specialized field and in general scientific methodology.
It's very common to spend at least the first year (often more!) of PhD learning and exploring around the research question, sometimes a bit randomly. During this time it's frequent not to actually produce anything, and even occasionally spending time exploring something which turns out to be irrelevant. It's fine, mistakes are entirely part of the research process.
What is important is to keep a main research objective in mind: at the beginning it's often a very general and vague objective. Then progressively, by getting a better understanding of the state of the art and discussing with your advisor, you will start zeroing on what will become your specific research contribution.
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I sympathise completely with your situation, as I went through exactly that thought process when I began my PhD. I am in my second year.
I did not begin my PhD with a tightly defined research question, and I would guess that you are not doing so either. I did have an idea of what general area of research interested me and spent a lot of time looking at published papers. Sometimes, while reading a paper, I realised that I needed more general understanding of that topic, and then read text books, or attended classes.
I also attended seminars and such like, to get some idea about how other researchers in my general field go about their work. And I volunteered to give talks on quite general subjects in my broad field, on the basis the best way to learn a subject is to try and teach it to somebody else. I have been surprised by how much of that haphazardly gathered learning has turned out to be helpful in my own very specific research - sometimes directly relevant but more often by suggesting ideas to me about a way of looking at a problem.
I thought, and still think, that it would be a mistake to take classes and read textbooks until I was at the frontier of knowledge, because I would never reach the frontier that way.
What I did instead, after reading, more or less deeply, a few hundred papers, was to realise that none of them really addressed a particular question that I was interested in. Having, almost inadvertently, identified a specific research question, I could then conduct a very intense literature review to confirm, or otherwise, that nobody else had researched that question.
Guess what! I had reached the frontier of knowledge. I am now in the process of seeing if I can push the frontier further out.
This is a wonderful story, thank you for sharing Jeremy! I definitely don't have a tightly defined problem that I'm working on, but I do have a pretty specific domain I know I'll be working in so I suppose my situation could be worse. "A few hundred papers" is mega impressive for being in your second year. I think your method of reading papers and attending seminars addresses my concerns. There are many frontiers of knowledge, each requiring more/less knowledge to access, and I'll probably be working hard with my adviser/reading papers to find a suitable one to push out.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
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I sympathise completely with your situation, as I went through exactly that thought process when I began my PhD. I am in my second year.
I did not begin my PhD with a tightly defined research question, and I would guess that you are not doing so either. I did have an idea of what general area of research interested me and spent a lot of time looking at published papers. Sometimes, while reading a paper, I realised that I needed more general understanding of that topic, and then read text books, or attended classes.
I also attended seminars and such like, to get some idea about how other researchers in my general field go about their work. And I volunteered to give talks on quite general subjects in my broad field, on the basis the best way to learn a subject is to try and teach it to somebody else. I have been surprised by how much of that haphazardly gathered learning has turned out to be helpful in my own very specific research - sometimes directly relevant but more often by suggesting ideas to me about a way of looking at a problem.
I thought, and still think, that it would be a mistake to take classes and read textbooks until I was at the frontier of knowledge, because I would never reach the frontier that way.
What I did instead, after reading, more or less deeply, a few hundred papers, was to realise that none of them really addressed a particular question that I was interested in. Having, almost inadvertently, identified a specific research question, I could then conduct a very intense literature review to confirm, or otherwise, that nobody else had researched that question.
Guess what! I had reached the frontier of knowledge. I am now in the process of seeing if I can push the frontier further out.
This is a wonderful story, thank you for sharing Jeremy! I definitely don't have a tightly defined problem that I'm working on, but I do have a pretty specific domain I know I'll be working in so I suppose my situation could be worse. "A few hundred papers" is mega impressive for being in your second year. I think your method of reading papers and attending seminars addresses my concerns. There are many frontiers of knowledge, each requiring more/less knowledge to access, and I'll probably be working hard with my adviser/reading papers to find a suitable one to push out.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
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I sympathise completely with your situation, as I went through exactly that thought process when I began my PhD. I am in my second year.
I did not begin my PhD with a tightly defined research question, and I would guess that you are not doing so either. I did have an idea of what general area of research interested me and spent a lot of time looking at published papers. Sometimes, while reading a paper, I realised that I needed more general understanding of that topic, and then read text books, or attended classes.
I also attended seminars and such like, to get some idea about how other researchers in my general field go about their work. And I volunteered to give talks on quite general subjects in my broad field, on the basis the best way to learn a subject is to try and teach it to somebody else. I have been surprised by how much of that haphazardly gathered learning has turned out to be helpful in my own very specific research - sometimes directly relevant but more often by suggesting ideas to me about a way of looking at a problem.
I thought, and still think, that it would be a mistake to take classes and read textbooks until I was at the frontier of knowledge, because I would never reach the frontier that way.
What I did instead, after reading, more or less deeply, a few hundred papers, was to realise that none of them really addressed a particular question that I was interested in. Having, almost inadvertently, identified a specific research question, I could then conduct a very intense literature review to confirm, or otherwise, that nobody else had researched that question.
Guess what! I had reached the frontier of knowledge. I am now in the process of seeing if I can push the frontier further out.
I sympathise completely with your situation, as I went through exactly that thought process when I began my PhD. I am in my second year.
I did not begin my PhD with a tightly defined research question, and I would guess that you are not doing so either. I did have an idea of what general area of research interested me and spent a lot of time looking at published papers. Sometimes, while reading a paper, I realised that I needed more general understanding of that topic, and then read text books, or attended classes.
I also attended seminars and such like, to get some idea about how other researchers in my general field go about their work. And I volunteered to give talks on quite general subjects in my broad field, on the basis the best way to learn a subject is to try and teach it to somebody else. I have been surprised by how much of that haphazardly gathered learning has turned out to be helpful in my own very specific research - sometimes directly relevant but more often by suggesting ideas to me about a way of looking at a problem.
I thought, and still think, that it would be a mistake to take classes and read textbooks until I was at the frontier of knowledge, because I would never reach the frontier that way.
What I did instead, after reading, more or less deeply, a few hundred papers, was to realise that none of them really addressed a particular question that I was interested in. Having, almost inadvertently, identified a specific research question, I could then conduct a very intense literature review to confirm, or otherwise, that nobody else had researched that question.
Guess what! I had reached the frontier of knowledge. I am now in the process of seeing if I can push the frontier further out.
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This is a wonderful story, thank you for sharing Jeremy! I definitely don't have a tightly defined problem that I'm working on, but I do have a pretty specific domain I know I'll be working in so I suppose my situation could be worse. "A few hundred papers" is mega impressive for being in your second year. I think your method of reading papers and attending seminars addresses my concerns. There are many frontiers of knowledge, each requiring more/less knowledge to access, and I'll probably be working hard with my adviser/reading papers to find a suitable one to push out.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
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This is a wonderful story, thank you for sharing Jeremy! I definitely don't have a tightly defined problem that I'm working on, but I do have a pretty specific domain I know I'll be working in so I suppose my situation could be worse. "A few hundred papers" is mega impressive for being in your second year. I think your method of reading papers and attending seminars addresses my concerns. There are many frontiers of knowledge, each requiring more/less knowledge to access, and I'll probably be working hard with my adviser/reading papers to find a suitable one to push out.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
This is a wonderful story, thank you for sharing Jeremy! I definitely don't have a tightly defined problem that I'm working on, but I do have a pretty specific domain I know I'll be working in so I suppose my situation could be worse. "A few hundred papers" is mega impressive for being in your second year. I think your method of reading papers and attending seminars addresses my concerns. There are many frontiers of knowledge, each requiring more/less knowledge to access, and I'll probably be working hard with my adviser/reading papers to find a suitable one to push out.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
This is a wonderful story, thank you for sharing Jeremy! I definitely don't have a tightly defined problem that I'm working on, but I do have a pretty specific domain I know I'll be working in so I suppose my situation could be worse. "A few hundred papers" is mega impressive for being in your second year. I think your method of reading papers and attending seminars addresses my concerns. There are many frontiers of knowledge, each requiring more/less knowledge to access, and I'll probably be working hard with my adviser/reading papers to find a suitable one to push out.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
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Unsurprisingly, there is no one-size-fits-all method for balancing the tasks of acquiring knowledge and producing knowledge. It is a very common concern for starting PhD students like you, but in the vast majority of cases things work out fine. I'll try to explain why and how:
Acquiring and producing knowledge are not mutually incompatible tasks. In fact, they are often fruitfully combined with each other. For example, one may read a paper which gives them an idea for a new approach in their work; conversely, one may stumble upon a problem in their research and switch to discovering how existing works deal with the same kind of problem. The balance is achieved by keeping a flexible goal-oriented approach, by this I mean that it combines two aspects:
- Nobody can know everything in their field, so researchers don't try to achieve that. Instead they focus on the topics which are susceptible of contributing to their own research. That's the in-depth aspect of acquiring new knowledge: choosing what one needs to know in order to progress in their own research goals and study every detail of it.
- On the other hand, researchers need to keep up to date with the major discoveries in their field. But for that they don't need to know or even understand every detail of every single new paper, they can skim through abstracts/papers and select whether they want to dive deeper depending on their goals (or depending on how soon their next deadline is). That's the in-breadth aspect.
Naturally figuring out one's methodology, for example recognizing the papers of interest, takes some learning. Well, that's exactly what a PhD is for: a PhD student is a researcher in training. It's understood that they are not immediately operational and that they need to acquire a lot of new knowledge, both in their specialized field and in general scientific methodology.
It's very common to spend at least the first year (often more!) of PhD learning and exploring around the research question, sometimes a bit randomly. During this time it's frequent not to actually produce anything, and even occasionally spending time exploring something which turns out to be irrelevant. It's fine, mistakes are entirely part of the research process.
What is important is to keep a main research objective in mind: at the beginning it's often a very general and vague objective. Then progressively, by getting a better understanding of the state of the art and discussing with your advisor, you will start zeroing on what will become your specific research contribution.
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Unsurprisingly, there is no one-size-fits-all method for balancing the tasks of acquiring knowledge and producing knowledge. It is a very common concern for starting PhD students like you, but in the vast majority of cases things work out fine. I'll try to explain why and how:
Acquiring and producing knowledge are not mutually incompatible tasks. In fact, they are often fruitfully combined with each other. For example, one may read a paper which gives them an idea for a new approach in their work; conversely, one may stumble upon a problem in their research and switch to discovering how existing works deal with the same kind of problem. The balance is achieved by keeping a flexible goal-oriented approach, by this I mean that it combines two aspects:
- Nobody can know everything in their field, so researchers don't try to achieve that. Instead they focus on the topics which are susceptible of contributing to their own research. That's the in-depth aspect of acquiring new knowledge: choosing what one needs to know in order to progress in their own research goals and study every detail of it.
- On the other hand, researchers need to keep up to date with the major discoveries in their field. But for that they don't need to know or even understand every detail of every single new paper, they can skim through abstracts/papers and select whether they want to dive deeper depending on their goals (or depending on how soon their next deadline is). That's the in-breadth aspect.
Naturally figuring out one's methodology, for example recognizing the papers of interest, takes some learning. Well, that's exactly what a PhD is for: a PhD student is a researcher in training. It's understood that they are not immediately operational and that they need to acquire a lot of new knowledge, both in their specialized field and in general scientific methodology.
It's very common to spend at least the first year (often more!) of PhD learning and exploring around the research question, sometimes a bit randomly. During this time it's frequent not to actually produce anything, and even occasionally spending time exploring something which turns out to be irrelevant. It's fine, mistakes are entirely part of the research process.
What is important is to keep a main research objective in mind: at the beginning it's often a very general and vague objective. Then progressively, by getting a better understanding of the state of the art and discussing with your advisor, you will start zeroing on what will become your specific research contribution.
add a comment |
Unsurprisingly, there is no one-size-fits-all method for balancing the tasks of acquiring knowledge and producing knowledge. It is a very common concern for starting PhD students like you, but in the vast majority of cases things work out fine. I'll try to explain why and how:
Acquiring and producing knowledge are not mutually incompatible tasks. In fact, they are often fruitfully combined with each other. For example, one may read a paper which gives them an idea for a new approach in their work; conversely, one may stumble upon a problem in their research and switch to discovering how existing works deal with the same kind of problem. The balance is achieved by keeping a flexible goal-oriented approach, by this I mean that it combines two aspects:
- Nobody can know everything in their field, so researchers don't try to achieve that. Instead they focus on the topics which are susceptible of contributing to their own research. That's the in-depth aspect of acquiring new knowledge: choosing what one needs to know in order to progress in their own research goals and study every detail of it.
- On the other hand, researchers need to keep up to date with the major discoveries in their field. But for that they don't need to know or even understand every detail of every single new paper, they can skim through abstracts/papers and select whether they want to dive deeper depending on their goals (or depending on how soon their next deadline is). That's the in-breadth aspect.
Naturally figuring out one's methodology, for example recognizing the papers of interest, takes some learning. Well, that's exactly what a PhD is for: a PhD student is a researcher in training. It's understood that they are not immediately operational and that they need to acquire a lot of new knowledge, both in their specialized field and in general scientific methodology.
It's very common to spend at least the first year (often more!) of PhD learning and exploring around the research question, sometimes a bit randomly. During this time it's frequent not to actually produce anything, and even occasionally spending time exploring something which turns out to be irrelevant. It's fine, mistakes are entirely part of the research process.
What is important is to keep a main research objective in mind: at the beginning it's often a very general and vague objective. Then progressively, by getting a better understanding of the state of the art and discussing with your advisor, you will start zeroing on what will become your specific research contribution.
Unsurprisingly, there is no one-size-fits-all method for balancing the tasks of acquiring knowledge and producing knowledge. It is a very common concern for starting PhD students like you, but in the vast majority of cases things work out fine. I'll try to explain why and how:
Acquiring and producing knowledge are not mutually incompatible tasks. In fact, they are often fruitfully combined with each other. For example, one may read a paper which gives them an idea for a new approach in their work; conversely, one may stumble upon a problem in their research and switch to discovering how existing works deal with the same kind of problem. The balance is achieved by keeping a flexible goal-oriented approach, by this I mean that it combines two aspects:
- Nobody can know everything in their field, so researchers don't try to achieve that. Instead they focus on the topics which are susceptible of contributing to their own research. That's the in-depth aspect of acquiring new knowledge: choosing what one needs to know in order to progress in their own research goals and study every detail of it.
- On the other hand, researchers need to keep up to date with the major discoveries in their field. But for that they don't need to know or even understand every detail of every single new paper, they can skim through abstracts/papers and select whether they want to dive deeper depending on their goals (or depending on how soon their next deadline is). That's the in-breadth aspect.
Naturally figuring out one's methodology, for example recognizing the papers of interest, takes some learning. Well, that's exactly what a PhD is for: a PhD student is a researcher in training. It's understood that they are not immediately operational and that they need to acquire a lot of new knowledge, both in their specialized field and in general scientific methodology.
It's very common to spend at least the first year (often more!) of PhD learning and exploring around the research question, sometimes a bit randomly. During this time it's frequent not to actually produce anything, and even occasionally spending time exploring something which turns out to be irrelevant. It's fine, mistakes are entirely part of the research process.
What is important is to keep a main research objective in mind: at the beginning it's often a very general and vague objective. Then progressively, by getting a better understanding of the state of the art and discussing with your advisor, you will start zeroing on what will become your specific research contribution.
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Is the question about classes per se, or it is about the desirability of further study and enhancing scholarship?
– paul garrett
8 hours ago
@paulgarrett Great question. I don't think I'm asking about desirability so much as necessity. Really I'm looking for general guiding principles on how to best approach a PhD that's largely theoretical. I worry about this because I can envision a trap where I spend all my time "enhancing scholarship" - whether it's through classes, reading papers, or some other method - and not enough time contributing to new publications in my lab group.
– AlkaKadri
8 hours ago
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Nobody expects you to be at the frontier of knowledge when you start your PhD :-)
– Flyto
7 hours ago
@Flyto Thank you for your reassurance! My concern, however, is more so about what's a reasonable amount of time to spend on reaching that frontier? But perhaps that's a terrible question and something I'll need to figure out for myself.
– AlkaKadri
7 hours ago
Note that the structure of a PhD can be quite different depending on the country, so you might want to add a location tag to your question if you want more specific advice. Anyway I tried to give you the general idea, hope it helps.
– Erwan
7 hours ago