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Let's say we have the following:



p is prime
n > 1 (n is an integer)
p = nq (I.e. p is a multiple of n)


It can be proved that p = n.



I've seen that Mathematica has some basic theorem proving capabilities (see the theorem-proving tag) via functions like Reduce.



Can Mathematica prove the above claim? Pointers to external resources are welcome.










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    $p=5$, $q=3$, $n=5/3$, $p$ is not equal $n$. Maybe you forgot something?
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    @yarchik Yes you're right, thank you! n is an integer. I've updated the post.
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    Have a look at FindEquationalProof, though I think this may be harder than it looks.
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$begingroup$


Let's say we have the following:



p is prime
n > 1 (n is an integer)
p = nq (I.e. p is a multiple of n)


It can be proved that p = n.



I've seen that Mathematica has some basic theorem proving capabilities (see the theorem-proving tag) via functions like Reduce.



Can Mathematica prove the above claim? Pointers to external resources are welcome.










share|improve this question











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    $begingroup$
    $p=5$, $q=3$, $n=5/3$, $p$ is not equal $n$. Maybe you forgot something?
    $endgroup$
    – yarchik
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @yarchik Yes you're right, thank you! n is an integer. I've updated the post.
    $endgroup$
    – dharmatech
    7 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Have a look at FindEquationalProof, though I think this may be harder than it looks.
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Lange
    6 hours ago













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$begingroup$


Let's say we have the following:



p is prime
n > 1 (n is an integer)
p = nq (I.e. p is a multiple of n)


It can be proved that p = n.



I've seen that Mathematica has some basic theorem proving capabilities (see the theorem-proving tag) via functions like Reduce.



Can Mathematica prove the above claim? Pointers to external resources are welcome.










share|improve this question











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Let's say we have the following:



p is prime
n > 1 (n is an integer)
p = nq (I.e. p is a multiple of n)


It can be proved that p = n.



I've seen that Mathematica has some basic theorem proving capabilities (see the theorem-proving tag) via functions like Reduce.



Can Mathematica prove the above claim? Pointers to external resources are welcome.







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    $begingroup$
    $p=5$, $q=3$, $n=5/3$, $p$ is not equal $n$. Maybe you forgot something?
    $endgroup$
    – yarchik
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @yarchik Yes you're right, thank you! n is an integer. I've updated the post.
    $endgroup$
    – dharmatech
    7 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Have a look at FindEquationalProof, though I think this may be harder than it looks.
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Lange
    6 hours ago












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    $p=5$, $q=3$, $n=5/3$, $p$ is not equal $n$. Maybe you forgot something?
    $endgroup$
    – yarchik
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @yarchik Yes you're right, thank you! n is an integer. I've updated the post.
    $endgroup$
    – dharmatech
    7 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Have a look at FindEquationalProof, though I think this may be harder than it looks.
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Lange
    6 hours ago







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$begingroup$
$p=5$, $q=3$, $n=5/3$, $p$ is not equal $n$. Maybe you forgot something?
$endgroup$
– yarchik
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
$p=5$, $q=3$, $n=5/3$, $p$ is not equal $n$. Maybe you forgot something?
$endgroup$
– yarchik
7 hours ago












$begingroup$
@yarchik Yes you're right, thank you! n is an integer. I've updated the post.
$endgroup$
– dharmatech
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
@yarchik Yes you're right, thank you! n is an integer. I've updated the post.
$endgroup$
– dharmatech
7 hours ago




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Have a look at FindEquationalProof, though I think this may be harder than it looks.
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– Carl Lange
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Mathematica does have such a thing, though it's unfortunately not as trivial as one would hope, as that:




FindEquationalProof cannot prove theorems involving arithmetic operators by default




As such, an example:



FindEquationalProof[a == b c, a/c == b, c == 1]

Failure["PropositionFalse",
Association["MessageTemplate" -> TemplateObject[
"The proposition could not be reduced to True."


If you read the docs under possible issues a solution to work around it.



FindEquationalProof[ForAll[x, f[4*x] == 4*f[x]], ForAll[x, f[2*x] == 2*f[x]]]
(*Same error as above*)

FindEquationalProof[ForAll[a, f[mult[4, x]] == mult[4, f[x]]], ForAll[x, f[mult[2, x]] == mult[2, f[x]]], ForAll[x, y, z, mult[x, mult[y, z]] == mult[mult[x, y], z]], mult[2, 2] == 4]


As such one would have to build in the logic of multiplying for your theorem to be found.






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Mathematica does have such a thing, though it's unfortunately not as trivial as one would hope, as that:




FindEquationalProof cannot prove theorems involving arithmetic operators by default




As such, an example:



FindEquationalProof[a == b c, a/c == b, c == 1]

Failure["PropositionFalse",
Association["MessageTemplate" -> TemplateObject[
"The proposition could not be reduced to True."


If you read the docs under possible issues a solution to work around it.



FindEquationalProof[ForAll[x, f[4*x] == 4*f[x]], ForAll[x, f[2*x] == 2*f[x]]]
(*Same error as above*)

FindEquationalProof[ForAll[a, f[mult[4, x]] == mult[4, f[x]]], ForAll[x, f[mult[2, x]] == mult[2, f[x]]], ForAll[x, y, z, mult[x, mult[y, z]] == mult[mult[x, y], z]], mult[2, 2] == 4]


As such one would have to build in the logic of multiplying for your theorem to be found.






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$begingroup$

Mathematica does have such a thing, though it's unfortunately not as trivial as one would hope, as that:




FindEquationalProof cannot prove theorems involving arithmetic operators by default




As such, an example:



FindEquationalProof[a == b c, a/c == b, c == 1]

Failure["PropositionFalse",
Association["MessageTemplate" -> TemplateObject[
"The proposition could not be reduced to True."


If you read the docs under possible issues a solution to work around it.



FindEquationalProof[ForAll[x, f[4*x] == 4*f[x]], ForAll[x, f[2*x] == 2*f[x]]]
(*Same error as above*)

FindEquationalProof[ForAll[a, f[mult[4, x]] == mult[4, f[x]]], ForAll[x, f[mult[2, x]] == mult[2, f[x]]], ForAll[x, y, z, mult[x, mult[y, z]] == mult[mult[x, y], z]], mult[2, 2] == 4]


As such one would have to build in the logic of multiplying for your theorem to be found.






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    Excellent answer. Thank you!
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$begingroup$

Mathematica does have such a thing, though it's unfortunately not as trivial as one would hope, as that:




FindEquationalProof cannot prove theorems involving arithmetic operators by default




As such, an example:



FindEquationalProof[a == b c, a/c == b, c == 1]

Failure["PropositionFalse",
Association["MessageTemplate" -> TemplateObject[
"The proposition could not be reduced to True."


If you read the docs under possible issues a solution to work around it.



FindEquationalProof[ForAll[x, f[4*x] == 4*f[x]], ForAll[x, f[2*x] == 2*f[x]]]
(*Same error as above*)

FindEquationalProof[ForAll[a, f[mult[4, x]] == mult[4, f[x]]], ForAll[x, f[mult[2, x]] == mult[2, f[x]]], ForAll[x, y, z, mult[x, mult[y, z]] == mult[mult[x, y], z]], mult[2, 2] == 4]


As such one would have to build in the logic of multiplying for your theorem to be found.






share|improve this answer









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Mathematica does have such a thing, though it's unfortunately not as trivial as one would hope, as that:




FindEquationalProof cannot prove theorems involving arithmetic operators by default




As such, an example:



FindEquationalProof[a == b c, a/c == b, c == 1]

Failure["PropositionFalse",
Association["MessageTemplate" -> TemplateObject[
"The proposition could not be reduced to True."


If you read the docs under possible issues a solution to work around it.



FindEquationalProof[ForAll[x, f[4*x] == 4*f[x]], ForAll[x, f[2*x] == 2*f[x]]]
(*Same error as above*)

FindEquationalProof[ForAll[a, f[mult[4, x]] == mult[4, f[x]]], ForAll[x, f[mult[2, x]] == mult[2, f[x]]], ForAll[x, y, z, mult[x, mult[y, z]] == mult[mult[x, y], z]], mult[2, 2] == 4]


As such one would have to build in the logic of multiplying for your theorem to be found.







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