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I am looking for an indigenous Russian word for women who entertained guests at social gatherings in Russia. To put it simply, I am looking for a Russian analogue of geisha.

I tried to find such a word on my own, but found only an intriguing statement in Wikipedia:

Вместе с тем для обозначения подобных артисток и их профессии, как в японском, так и в остальных мировых языках, включая русский, встречаются и другие наименования. (Link)

This statement says there is a Russian word for that, but does not name that word.

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  I'm afraid, there's no such profession in the Russian culture. The rich has always been too ignorant and disdained all the entertainment beside hunting, torture, and sex.
  
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I am looking for an indigenous Russian word for women who entertained guests at social gatherings in Russia. To put it simply, I am looking for a Russian analogue of geisha.

I tried to find such a word on my own, but found only an intriguing statement in Wikipedia:

Вместе с тем для обозначения подобных артисток и их профессии, как в японском, так и в остальных мировых языках, включая русский, встречаются и другие наименования. (Link)

This statement says there is a Russian word for that, but does not name that word.

одним-словом

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  I'm afraid, there's no such profession in the Russian culture. The rich has always been too ignorant and disdained all the entertainment beside hunting, torture, and sex.
  
  – Yellow Sky
  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @YellowSky : So Wikipedia lies, right?
  
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  @Mitsuko you'd be surprised but Wikipedia is not something we call in Russian "истина в последней инстанции".
  
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  @shabunc : I am not surprised, but am stull curious whether Wikipedia lies in that particular statement :)
  
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  lie is a deliberate misinformation, until we have a proof of such intent it's a mistake or inaccuracy
  
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  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  

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I am looking for an indigenous Russian word for women who entertained guests at social gatherings in Russia. To put it simply, I am looking for a Russian analogue of geisha.

I tried to find such a word on my own, but found only an intriguing statement in Wikipedia:

Вместе с тем для обозначения подобных артисток и их профессии, как в японском, так и в остальных мировых языках, включая русский, встречаются и другие наименования. (Link)

This statement says there is a Russian word for that, but does not name that word.

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I'm not aware of a native Slavic word for this profession.

Since this profession has come to Russia from the West, Russian uses loanwords to describe it: куртизанка, кокотка, демимонденка, гетера, эскортница etc., including гейша itself.

Note, however, that all those words (except гейша naturally) don't describe a woman who would do exactly what a geisha would do.

That's why we all know the word "geisha" in the first place: if we had an exact native word for a geisha, we would not need the Japanese word.

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Тамада.
It can be a woman or man. This person entertains guests at social gatherings like wedding, parties, in Russia.
It reflects only this part of geisha.

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Вместе с тем для обозначения подобных артисток и их профессии, как в японском, так и в остальных мировых языках, включая русский, встречаются и другие наименования.

I suppose this piece of text means "there are some other words for geisha", i. e. "other words for this Japanese profession" because there is no such profession in Russian culture.

Nowadays, there is a word with a similar meaning - "аниматор". Usually "аниматор" is a person who entertains children on birthdays. Also, hotels in Turkey which work on "all inclusive" model, have animators for adults.

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As for the word "массовик-затейник" proposed by Quassnoi in comments, it is a word from the Soviet epoch, which means more or less the same as "аниматор".

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  массовица-затейница? массажистка-затейница? массажистка-зательница?
  
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  @Mitsuko I don't know other words, you should ask the author. I just noticed that the phrase can have another meaning.
  
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I'm not aware of a native Slavic word for this profession.

Since this profession has come to Russia from the West, Russian uses loanwords to describe it: куртизанка, кокотка, демимонденка, гетера, эскортница etc., including гейша itself.

Note, however, that all those words (except гейша naturally) don't describe a woman who would do exactly what a geisha would do.

That's why we all know the word "geisha" in the first place: if we had an exact native word for a geisha, we would not need the Japanese word.

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I'm not aware of a native Slavic word for this profession.

Since this profession has come to Russia from the West, Russian uses loanwords to describe it: куртизанка, кокотка, демимонденка, гетера, эскортница etc., including гейша itself.

Note, however, that all those words (except гейша naturally) don't describe a woman who would do exactly what a geisha would do.

That's why we all know the word "geisha" in the first place: if we had an exact native word for a geisha, we would not need the Japanese word.

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I'm not aware of a native Slavic word for this profession.

Since this profession has come to Russia from the West, Russian uses loanwords to describe it: куртизанка, кокотка, демимонденка, гетера, эскортница etc., including гейша itself.

Note, however, that all those words (except гейша naturally) don't describe a woman who would do exactly what a geisha would do.

That's why we all know the word "geisha" in the first place: if we had an exact native word for a geisha, we would not need the Japanese word.

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Тамада.
It can be a woman or man. This person entertains guests at social gatherings like wedding, parties, in Russia.
It reflects only this part of geisha.

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Тамада.
It can be a woman or man. This person entertains guests at social gatherings like wedding, parties, in Russia.
It reflects only this part of geisha.

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Тамада.
It can be a woman or man. This person entertains guests at social gatherings like wedding, parties, in Russia.
It reflects only this part of geisha.

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Вместе с тем для обозначения подобных артисток и их профессии, как в японском, так и в остальных мировых языках, включая русский, встречаются и другие наименования.

I suppose this piece of text means "there are some other words for geisha", i. e. "other words for this Japanese profession" because there is no such profession in Russian culture.

Nowadays, there is a word with a similar meaning - "аниматор". Usually "аниматор" is a person who entertains children on birthdays. Also, hotels in Turkey which work on "all inclusive" model, have animators for adults.

UPD

As for the word "массовик-затейник" proposed by Quassnoi in comments, it is a word from the Soviet epoch, which means more or less the same as "аниматор".

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  >> I suppose this piece of text means "there are some other words for geisha", i. e. "other words for this Japanese profession" << If you suppose that, then what are the other Russian words for geisha?
  
  – Mitsuko
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  массовик-затейник
  
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  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  массовица-затейница? массажистка-затейница? массажистка-зательница?
  
  – Баян Купи-ка
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Mitsuko I don't know other words, you should ask the author. I just noticed that the phrase can have another meaning.
  
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Вместе с тем для обозначения подобных артисток и их профессии, как в японском, так и в остальных мировых языках, включая русский, встречаются и другие наименования.

I suppose this piece of text means "there are some other words for geisha", i. e. "other words for this Japanese profession" because there is no such profession in Russian culture.

Nowadays, there is a word with a similar meaning - "аниматор". Usually "аниматор" is a person who entertains children on birthdays. Also, hotels in Turkey which work on "all inclusive" model, have animators for adults.

UPD

As for the word "массовик-затейник" proposed by Quassnoi in comments, it is a word from the Soviet epoch, which means more or less the same as "аниматор".

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 7 hours ago

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  >> I suppose this piece of text means "there are some other words for geisha", i. e. "other words for this Japanese profession" << If you suppose that, then what are the other Russian words for geisha?
  
  – Mitsuko
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  3
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  массовик-затейник
  
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  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  массовица-затейница? массажистка-затейница? массажистка-зательница?
  
  – Баян Купи-ка
  5 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Mitsuko I don't know other words, you should ask the author. I just noticed that the phrase can have another meaning.
  
  – Dmitriy
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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Вместе с тем для обозначения подобных артисток и их профессии, как в японском, так и в остальных мировых языках, включая русский, встречаются и другие наименования.

I suppose this piece of text means "there are some other words for geisha", i. e. "other words for this Japanese profession" because there is no such profession in Russian culture.

Nowadays, there is a word with a similar meaning - "аниматор". Usually "аниматор" is a person who entertains children on birthdays. Also, hotels in Turkey which work on "all inclusive" model, have animators for adults.

UPD

As for the word "массовик-затейник" proposed by Quassnoi in comments, it is a word from the Soviet epoch, which means more or less the same as "аниматор".

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 7 hours ago

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