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          Still (/stɪl/) and steel (/sti:l/) are distinguished. There is a different vowel in these two words.



          Steal and Steel (/sti:l/) are homonyms and pronounced essentially the same.



          But the words are, in this case easily identifed by grammar. In this sentence Steal is a verb, Steel is a noun. Steel as a verb cannot take Steal (as a noun) as its object. So there is no ambiguity in the sentence.






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          • "Steel" can be used as a verb -- "To steel oneself to make the decision". More rarely "steal" can be used a s a verb: The Big Steal was a book title not long ago. But yes, "steel" is typically a noun and "steal" a verb.

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          • oops i meant "... 'steal' can be used as a noun". Sorry for any confusion.

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          • @DavidSiegel: Steel: to coat with said metal.

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          Context is the key to understanding. If your reader or conversation partner understands you are talking about someone or something with a habit of misappropriating steel, then it is perfectly reasonable to say they still steal steel or steal steel still. If they do not have that context, they you may need to explain it.



          Most native speakers of English will pronounce steal and steel identically, but differently from still. Some people in Yorkshire might pronounce all three differently, and some people in Tennessee might pronounce all three the same.




          In all the "standard" accents with which I am familiar, steel and steal are homophones, both pronounced /stiːl/. The spelling of steal and words like team and cream among others reflects a distinction in pronunciation which was mostly lost by the 18th century in what is known as the meet-meat merger. The distinction is preserved only in some corners of Ireland and Northern England, and I would say a learner should not bother with it.



          The standard pronunciation of still has a shorter vowel, thus /stɪl/. That said, many speakers of Southern, Appalachian, and African-American Englishes, and what is called Estuary English, speak with what is called the fill-feel merger. Pairs like ill and eel, hill and heal, or will and we'll are pronounced the same in those accents. Again, I would say a learner is safest sticking to the standard pronunciation in speaking.






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            I, for one, hear a significant difference between "still" and "steal" or "steel". I would call the vowel sound that I make, and typically hear, in "still" a "short-I", while I would call the vowel sound in "steal" or "steel" a "long-e". There are, I am sure, more technically correct terms for these sounds. To help clarify, to me "Still" rhymes with "hill" and "kill", while "steal" rhymes with "keel", "feel", and "conceal".



            As is implied by the forgoing, to me "steal" and "steel" are homophones, with no detectable difference in sound.






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              Still (/stɪl/) and steel (/sti:l/) are distinguished. There is a different vowel in these two words.



              Steal and Steel (/sti:l/) are homonyms and pronounced essentially the same.



              But the words are, in this case easily identifed by grammar. In this sentence Steal is a verb, Steel is a noun. Steel as a verb cannot take Steal (as a noun) as its object. So there is no ambiguity in the sentence.






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              • "Steel" can be used as a verb -- "To steel oneself to make the decision". More rarely "steal" can be used a s a verb: The Big Steal was a book title not long ago. But yes, "steel" is typically a noun and "steal" a verb.

                – David Siegel
                7 hours ago











              • :s/is/is functioning as/

                – James K
                7 hours ago











              • oops i meant "... 'steal' can be used as a noun". Sorry for any confusion.

                – David Siegel
                7 hours ago











              • @DavidSiegel: Steel: to coat with said metal.

                – Joshua
                26 mins ago















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              Still (/stɪl/) and steel (/sti:l/) are distinguished. There is a different vowel in these two words.



              Steal and Steel (/sti:l/) are homonyms and pronounced essentially the same.



              But the words are, in this case easily identifed by grammar. In this sentence Steal is a verb, Steel is a noun. Steel as a verb cannot take Steal (as a noun) as its object. So there is no ambiguity in the sentence.






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              • "Steel" can be used as a verb -- "To steel oneself to make the decision". More rarely "steal" can be used a s a verb: The Big Steal was a book title not long ago. But yes, "steel" is typically a noun and "steal" a verb.

                – David Siegel
                7 hours ago











              • :s/is/is functioning as/

                – James K
                7 hours ago











              • oops i meant "... 'steal' can be used as a noun". Sorry for any confusion.

                – David Siegel
                7 hours ago











              • @DavidSiegel: Steel: to coat with said metal.

                – Joshua
                26 mins ago













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              Still (/stɪl/) and steel (/sti:l/) are distinguished. There is a different vowel in these two words.



              Steal and Steel (/sti:l/) are homonyms and pronounced essentially the same.



              But the words are, in this case easily identifed by grammar. In this sentence Steal is a verb, Steel is a noun. Steel as a verb cannot take Steal (as a noun) as its object. So there is no ambiguity in the sentence.






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              Still (/stɪl/) and steel (/sti:l/) are distinguished. There is a different vowel in these two words.



              Steal and Steel (/sti:l/) are homonyms and pronounced essentially the same.



              But the words are, in this case easily identifed by grammar. In this sentence Steal is a verb, Steel is a noun. Steel as a verb cannot take Steal (as a noun) as its object. So there is no ambiguity in the sentence.







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              • "Steel" can be used as a verb -- "To steel oneself to make the decision". More rarely "steal" can be used a s a verb: The Big Steal was a book title not long ago. But yes, "steel" is typically a noun and "steal" a verb.

                – David Siegel
                7 hours ago











              • :s/is/is functioning as/

                – James K
                7 hours ago











              • oops i meant "... 'steal' can be used as a noun". Sorry for any confusion.

                – David Siegel
                7 hours ago











              • @DavidSiegel: Steel: to coat with said metal.

                – Joshua
                26 mins ago

















              • "Steel" can be used as a verb -- "To steel oneself to make the decision". More rarely "steal" can be used a s a verb: The Big Steal was a book title not long ago. But yes, "steel" is typically a noun and "steal" a verb.

                – David Siegel
                7 hours ago











              • :s/is/is functioning as/

                – James K
                7 hours ago











              • oops i meant "... 'steal' can be used as a noun". Sorry for any confusion.

                – David Siegel
                7 hours ago











              • @DavidSiegel: Steel: to coat with said metal.

                – Joshua
                26 mins ago
















              "Steel" can be used as a verb -- "To steel oneself to make the decision". More rarely "steal" can be used a s a verb: The Big Steal was a book title not long ago. But yes, "steel" is typically a noun and "steal" a verb.

              – David Siegel
              7 hours ago





              "Steel" can be used as a verb -- "To steel oneself to make the decision". More rarely "steal" can be used a s a verb: The Big Steal was a book title not long ago. But yes, "steel" is typically a noun and "steal" a verb.

              – David Siegel
              7 hours ago













              :s/is/is functioning as/

              – James K
              7 hours ago





              :s/is/is functioning as/

              – James K
              7 hours ago













              oops i meant "... 'steal' can be used as a noun". Sorry for any confusion.

              – David Siegel
              7 hours ago





              oops i meant "... 'steal' can be used as a noun". Sorry for any confusion.

              – David Siegel
              7 hours ago













              @DavidSiegel: Steel: to coat with said metal.

              – Joshua
              26 mins ago





              @DavidSiegel: Steel: to coat with said metal.

              – Joshua
              26 mins ago













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              Context is the key to understanding. If your reader or conversation partner understands you are talking about someone or something with a habit of misappropriating steel, then it is perfectly reasonable to say they still steal steel or steal steel still. If they do not have that context, they you may need to explain it.



              Most native speakers of English will pronounce steal and steel identically, but differently from still. Some people in Yorkshire might pronounce all three differently, and some people in Tennessee might pronounce all three the same.




              In all the "standard" accents with which I am familiar, steel and steal are homophones, both pronounced /stiːl/. The spelling of steal and words like team and cream among others reflects a distinction in pronunciation which was mostly lost by the 18th century in what is known as the meet-meat merger. The distinction is preserved only in some corners of Ireland and Northern England, and I would say a learner should not bother with it.



              The standard pronunciation of still has a shorter vowel, thus /stɪl/. That said, many speakers of Southern, Appalachian, and African-American Englishes, and what is called Estuary English, speak with what is called the fill-feel merger. Pairs like ill and eel, hill and heal, or will and we'll are pronounced the same in those accents. Again, I would say a learner is safest sticking to the standard pronunciation in speaking.






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                Context is the key to understanding. If your reader or conversation partner understands you are talking about someone or something with a habit of misappropriating steel, then it is perfectly reasonable to say they still steal steel or steal steel still. If they do not have that context, they you may need to explain it.



                Most native speakers of English will pronounce steal and steel identically, but differently from still. Some people in Yorkshire might pronounce all three differently, and some people in Tennessee might pronounce all three the same.




                In all the "standard" accents with which I am familiar, steel and steal are homophones, both pronounced /stiːl/. The spelling of steal and words like team and cream among others reflects a distinction in pronunciation which was mostly lost by the 18th century in what is known as the meet-meat merger. The distinction is preserved only in some corners of Ireland and Northern England, and I would say a learner should not bother with it.



                The standard pronunciation of still has a shorter vowel, thus /stɪl/. That said, many speakers of Southern, Appalachian, and African-American Englishes, and what is called Estuary English, speak with what is called the fill-feel merger. Pairs like ill and eel, hill and heal, or will and we'll are pronounced the same in those accents. Again, I would say a learner is safest sticking to the standard pronunciation in speaking.






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                  Context is the key to understanding. If your reader or conversation partner understands you are talking about someone or something with a habit of misappropriating steel, then it is perfectly reasonable to say they still steal steel or steal steel still. If they do not have that context, they you may need to explain it.



                  Most native speakers of English will pronounce steal and steel identically, but differently from still. Some people in Yorkshire might pronounce all three differently, and some people in Tennessee might pronounce all three the same.




                  In all the "standard" accents with which I am familiar, steel and steal are homophones, both pronounced /stiːl/. The spelling of steal and words like team and cream among others reflects a distinction in pronunciation which was mostly lost by the 18th century in what is known as the meet-meat merger. The distinction is preserved only in some corners of Ireland and Northern England, and I would say a learner should not bother with it.



                  The standard pronunciation of still has a shorter vowel, thus /stɪl/. That said, many speakers of Southern, Appalachian, and African-American Englishes, and what is called Estuary English, speak with what is called the fill-feel merger. Pairs like ill and eel, hill and heal, or will and we'll are pronounced the same in those accents. Again, I would say a learner is safest sticking to the standard pronunciation in speaking.






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                  Context is the key to understanding. If your reader or conversation partner understands you are talking about someone or something with a habit of misappropriating steel, then it is perfectly reasonable to say they still steal steel or steal steel still. If they do not have that context, they you may need to explain it.



                  Most native speakers of English will pronounce steal and steel identically, but differently from still. Some people in Yorkshire might pronounce all three differently, and some people in Tennessee might pronounce all three the same.




                  In all the "standard" accents with which I am familiar, steel and steal are homophones, both pronounced /stiːl/. The spelling of steal and words like team and cream among others reflects a distinction in pronunciation which was mostly lost by the 18th century in what is known as the meet-meat merger. The distinction is preserved only in some corners of Ireland and Northern England, and I would say a learner should not bother with it.



                  The standard pronunciation of still has a shorter vowel, thus /stɪl/. That said, many speakers of Southern, Appalachian, and African-American Englishes, and what is called Estuary English, speak with what is called the fill-feel merger. Pairs like ill and eel, hill and heal, or will and we'll are pronounced the same in those accents. Again, I would say a learner is safest sticking to the standard pronunciation in speaking.







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                      I, for one, hear a significant difference between "still" and "steal" or "steel". I would call the vowel sound that I make, and typically hear, in "still" a "short-I", while I would call the vowel sound in "steal" or "steel" a "long-e". There are, I am sure, more technically correct terms for these sounds. To help clarify, to me "Still" rhymes with "hill" and "kill", while "steal" rhymes with "keel", "feel", and "conceal".



                      As is implied by the forgoing, to me "steal" and "steel" are homophones, with no detectable difference in sound.






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                        I, for one, hear a significant difference between "still" and "steal" or "steel". I would call the vowel sound that I make, and typically hear, in "still" a "short-I", while I would call the vowel sound in "steal" or "steel" a "long-e". There are, I am sure, more technically correct terms for these sounds. To help clarify, to me "Still" rhymes with "hill" and "kill", while "steal" rhymes with "keel", "feel", and "conceal".



                        As is implied by the forgoing, to me "steal" and "steel" are homophones, with no detectable difference in sound.






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                          I, for one, hear a significant difference between "still" and "steal" or "steel". I would call the vowel sound that I make, and typically hear, in "still" a "short-I", while I would call the vowel sound in "steal" or "steel" a "long-e". There are, I am sure, more technically correct terms for these sounds. To help clarify, to me "Still" rhymes with "hill" and "kill", while "steal" rhymes with "keel", "feel", and "conceal".



                          As is implied by the forgoing, to me "steal" and "steel" are homophones, with no detectable difference in sound.






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                          I, for one, hear a significant difference between "still" and "steal" or "steel". I would call the vowel sound that I make, and typically hear, in "still" a "short-I", while I would call the vowel sound in "steal" or "steel" a "long-e". There are, I am sure, more technically correct terms for these sounds. To help clarify, to me "Still" rhymes with "hill" and "kill", while "steal" rhymes with "keel", "feel", and "conceal".



                          As is implied by the forgoing, to me "steal" and "steel" are homophones, with no detectable difference in sound.







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