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Not counting shuttles, transport vessels or bases, Klingon and Romulan ships have a very similar basis in their shapes. They also share the same colors. Is there any canon reason as to why so many Klingon and Romulan war vessels share bird names or similar shapes?

These war vessels all share the name "bird" or are shaped like birds, meaning that they have a bridge (birdhead) at the front and their wings at the back.

Klingon Bird-of-Prey, from the ENT series

Klingon K'T'Inga-Class, from the TOS series

Klingon Bird-of-Prey,

Klingon IKS Negh'Var,

Klingon Vor'Cha, all from the TNG, DS9 series.

Romulan Bird-of-Prey, from the TOS series

Romulan warbird valdore, TNG movie era

Romulan Warbird, TNG series.

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Not counting shuttles, transport vessels or bases, Klingon and Romulan ships have a very similar basis in their shapes. They also share the same colors. Is there any canon reason as to why so many Klingon and Romulan war vessels share bird names or similar shapes?

These war vessels all share the name "bird" or are shaped like birds, meaning that they have a bridge (birdhead) at the front and their wings at the back.

Klingon Bird-of-Prey, from the ENT series

Klingon K'T'Inga-Class, from the TOS series

Klingon Bird-of-Prey,

Klingon IKS Negh'Var,

Klingon Vor'Cha, all from the TNG, DS9 series.

Romulan Bird-of-Prey, from the TOS series

Romulan warbird valdore, TNG movie era

Romulan Warbird, TNG series.

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Not counting shuttles, transport vessels or bases, Klingon and Romulan ships have a very similar basis in their shapes. They also share the same colors. Is there any canon reason as to why so many Klingon and Romulan war vessels share bird names or similar shapes?

These war vessels all share the name "bird" or are shaped like birds, meaning that they have a bridge (birdhead) at the front and their wings at the back.

Klingon Bird-of-Prey, from the ENT series

Klingon K'T'Inga-Class, from the TOS series

Klingon Bird-of-Prey,

Klingon IKS Negh'Var,

Klingon Vor'Cha, all from the TNG, DS9 series.

Romulan Bird-of-Prey, from the TOS series

Romulan warbird valdore, TNG movie era

Romulan Warbird, TNG series.

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Because they traded technology

From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident

Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.

An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.

A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:

"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)

This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.

In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.

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Because they traded technology

From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident

Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.

An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.

A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:

"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)

This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.

In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.

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Because they traded technology

From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident

Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.

An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.

A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:

"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)

This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.

In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.

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Because they traded technology

From the Memory-Alpha write-up for TOS: The Enterprise Incident

Kirk then inexplicably orders helmsman Sulu to take the Enterprise
across the Romulan Neutral Zone and into Romulan space, where it is
quickly surrounded by the Romulans – who are now using Klingon-style
vessels.

An effective cloaking device, meanwhile, was passed from the Romulans to the Klingons at about the same time. The last mentioned episode took place in 2268, while a working Klingon cloaking device was present in the episode TAS:The Time Trap (that is the animated series), which took place in 2269.

A writer for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock explicitly stated that he used the previously Romulan Bird-of-Prey designation for the a Klingon ship on purpose. According to writer Harve Bennett:

"I didn't change their ship, because I remembered a piece of trivia
that stated there was a mutual assistance military pact between the
Klingons and the Romulans for an exchange of a military equipment."
(Starlog #103, February 1986, p. 17)

This short-lived Romulan-Klingon alliance was never explicitly stated in the original series, but was evidently supposed to feature more prominently in the never-made Season 4; this is where the writers picked up the ideas that eventually lead to Klingon cloaking devices in the animated series and the movies.

In any case, the swapping of ship designs and cloaking technology lead to some convergence in ship design, particularly around the bird motif.

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