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I just got myself some new toys for my lab at home like 30V DC power supply, KKmoon signal generator and a Rigol DS1052E. I want to float everything, because I don't want to spend any money on stuff like differential probes or isolation transformers. I am doing 100% DC stuff and want to do some probing in my circuits. My questions are:



  1. What is the right way to float my home lab?

  2. Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing the ground from the socket coming from the device?

  3. Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?

Please let me know. Thanks.










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    DON'T float your equipment.
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    – JRE
    8 hours ago






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    Why do you want to float everything in the first place?
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    – Unknown123
    8 hours ago






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    Buy a differential probe
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    8 hours ago






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    One example of why you shouldn't float your equipment, is that if your scope is floating and you measure a high voltage, then your entire scope floats up to that. That includes things like all the probe ground clips that don't look like they're connected to anything, the probe ports on your scope that don't have anything plugged in, as well as the chassis right behind the buttons and knobs on the scope that you are poking around.
    $endgroup$
    – DKNguyen
    7 hours ago






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    Spending money on safety is always the right answer. If you can't afford to do something safely, I'd re-evaluate whether it's worth doing.
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I just got myself some new toys for my lab at home like 30V DC power supply, KKmoon signal generator and a Rigol DS1052E. I want to float everything, because I don't want to spend any money on stuff like differential probes or isolation transformers. I am doing 100% DC stuff and want to do some probing in my circuits. My questions are:



  1. What is the right way to float my home lab?

  2. Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing the ground from the socket coming from the device?

  3. Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?

Please let me know. Thanks.










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  • 11




    $begingroup$
    DON'T float your equipment.
    $endgroup$
    – JRE
    8 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Why do you want to float everything in the first place?
    $endgroup$
    – Unknown123
    8 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Buy a differential probe
    $endgroup$
    – laptop2d
    8 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    One example of why you shouldn't float your equipment, is that if your scope is floating and you measure a high voltage, then your entire scope floats up to that. That includes things like all the probe ground clips that don't look like they're connected to anything, the probe ports on your scope that don't have anything plugged in, as well as the chassis right behind the buttons and knobs on the scope that you are poking around.
    $endgroup$
    – DKNguyen
    7 hours ago






  • 1




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    Spending money on safety is always the right answer. If you can't afford to do something safely, I'd re-evaluate whether it's worth doing.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel
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I just got myself some new toys for my lab at home like 30V DC power supply, KKmoon signal generator and a Rigol DS1052E. I want to float everything, because I don't want to spend any money on stuff like differential probes or isolation transformers. I am doing 100% DC stuff and want to do some probing in my circuits. My questions are:



  1. What is the right way to float my home lab?

  2. Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing the ground from the socket coming from the device?

  3. Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?

Please let me know. Thanks.










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I just got myself some new toys for my lab at home like 30V DC power supply, KKmoon signal generator and a Rigol DS1052E. I want to float everything, because I don't want to spend any money on stuff like differential probes or isolation transformers. I am doing 100% DC stuff and want to do some probing in my circuits. My questions are:



  1. What is the right way to float my home lab?

  2. Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing the ground from the socket coming from the device?

  3. Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?

Please let me know. Thanks.







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  • 11




    $begingroup$
    DON'T float your equipment.
    $endgroup$
    – JRE
    8 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Why do you want to float everything in the first place?
    $endgroup$
    – Unknown123
    8 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Buy a differential probe
    $endgroup$
    – laptop2d
    8 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    One example of why you shouldn't float your equipment, is that if your scope is floating and you measure a high voltage, then your entire scope floats up to that. That includes things like all the probe ground clips that don't look like they're connected to anything, the probe ports on your scope that don't have anything plugged in, as well as the chassis right behind the buttons and knobs on the scope that you are poking around.
    $endgroup$
    – DKNguyen
    7 hours ago






  • 1




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    Spending money on safety is always the right answer. If you can't afford to do something safely, I'd re-evaluate whether it's worth doing.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel
    7 hours ago












  • 11




    $begingroup$
    DON'T float your equipment.
    $endgroup$
    – JRE
    8 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Why do you want to float everything in the first place?
    $endgroup$
    – Unknown123
    8 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Buy a differential probe
    $endgroup$
    – laptop2d
    8 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    One example of why you shouldn't float your equipment, is that if your scope is floating and you measure a high voltage, then your entire scope floats up to that. That includes things like all the probe ground clips that don't look like they're connected to anything, the probe ports on your scope that don't have anything plugged in, as well as the chassis right behind the buttons and knobs on the scope that you are poking around.
    $endgroup$
    – DKNguyen
    7 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Spending money on safety is always the right answer. If you can't afford to do something safely, I'd re-evaluate whether it's worth doing.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel
    7 hours ago







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$begingroup$
DON'T float your equipment.
$endgroup$
– JRE
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
DON'T float your equipment.
$endgroup$
– JRE
8 hours ago




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$begingroup$
Why do you want to float everything in the first place?
$endgroup$
– Unknown123
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
Why do you want to float everything in the first place?
$endgroup$
– Unknown123
8 hours ago




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$begingroup$
Buy a differential probe
$endgroup$
– laptop2d
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
Buy a differential probe
$endgroup$
– laptop2d
8 hours ago




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$begingroup$
One example of why you shouldn't float your equipment, is that if your scope is floating and you measure a high voltage, then your entire scope floats up to that. That includes things like all the probe ground clips that don't look like they're connected to anything, the probe ports on your scope that don't have anything plugged in, as well as the chassis right behind the buttons and knobs on the scope that you are poking around.
$endgroup$
– DKNguyen
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
One example of why you shouldn't float your equipment, is that if your scope is floating and you measure a high voltage, then your entire scope floats up to that. That includes things like all the probe ground clips that don't look like they're connected to anything, the probe ports on your scope that don't have anything plugged in, as well as the chassis right behind the buttons and knobs on the scope that you are poking around.
$endgroup$
– DKNguyen
7 hours ago




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Spending money on safety is always the right answer. If you can't afford to do something safely, I'd re-evaluate whether it's worth doing.
$endgroup$
– Daniel
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
Spending money on safety is always the right answer. If you can't afford to do something safely, I'd re-evaluate whether it's worth doing.
$endgroup$
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You can't float everything without an isolation transformer - the neutral will be connected to ground at the entry into the building. For safety any class I equipment does need to remain grounded, in my lab I have an isolation transformer only for the equipment under test, the scope and power supplies still have the case grounds, and are tolerant of the inputs/outputs floating up to 50V from ground (per their manuals). If I need to measure high side DC stuff, I can connect the high side to the scope ground (since the isolation transformer allows that offset) but a differential probe is still needed for measuring small signals with a large offset - it's far cheaper to buy one than smoke an oscilloscope






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    If I could, I would upvote this a thousand times. OP, if you really, absolutely, positively, unquestionably need to make a floating measurement, float the DUT, do not float your equipment. Stay safe out there.
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What is the right way to float my home lab?




If you want to make measurements that are isolated from ground, the only way to do this is with an isolation transformer if your scope is not isolated. There are very few reasons to do this, a high voltage setup would be one reason. Some AC measurements would be another. Differential probes are best.




Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing
the ground from the socket coming from the device?




A reason to do this would for breaking a ground loop on the scope, so that is most likely the only piece of equipment that you'd need to do this on. If you are doing this for AC measurements, the scope could also be floated. It is unsafe to do this on power supplies, where will the fault current go? Not to ground.



There are better ways to eliminate ground loops, one being a differential probe (kind of pricey). Another would be minimizing the grounds between devices, and making sure they are not plugged in on different circuits or plugs. (I've had a few times where this was an issue)




Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground
of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?




No, also very unsafe. No path for a fault current.






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    If everything you do is DC, all you need is a DMM.



    Likely what you meant is that it is low voltage but DC to high frequency.



    Earth ground is advantageous two good reasons;



    1) safety



    • the line filter noise currents to the metal frame will go thru you if not earth grounded but your body has stray capacitance to earth

    • line transients

    2) performance



    • EMI reduction with lower CM noise which will be induced into your high impedance circuits.

    You may want a consider a static-dissipative work surface, flooring, shoes, wrist strap, soldering iron.



    Proper high-frequency DC supply measurements



    When it comes to measuring supply ripple, you need an earth grounded low impedance AC coupled coax direct to the scope with an earth ground for a low impedance. A floating ground would inject a high common mode voltage that could get inject noise current into your DUT.



    it is always best to measure AC coupled with an external Cap to scope using coax without a probe terminated with cable impedance using an internal option or using a BNC T with 50R inserted.



    You don't need a differential probe if you can make one. Most measuremenats can be made with A-B with two matched 10:1 probes. WHen probe ground inductance causes resonance > 20MHz, simply remove clips and use tip and ring.






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      There is no right way to float your home lab.



      1) No. Right way is not to float equipment that must be grounded.



      2) No. Don't float any of them. Equipment that have grounded plugs NEED to be grounded for a reason.



      3) No. Because again, equipment with ground pins need to be grounded! Having all lab equipment and the device being examined being connected to single power strip at least makes them being powered from same mains phase and having a single point ground reference.






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        You can't float everything without an isolation transformer - the neutral will be connected to ground at the entry into the building. For safety any class I equipment does need to remain grounded, in my lab I have an isolation transformer only for the equipment under test, the scope and power supplies still have the case grounds, and are tolerant of the inputs/outputs floating up to 50V from ground (per their manuals). If I need to measure high side DC stuff, I can connect the high side to the scope ground (since the isolation transformer allows that offset) but a differential probe is still needed for measuring small signals with a large offset - it's far cheaper to buy one than smoke an oscilloscope






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          If I could, I would upvote this a thousand times. OP, if you really, absolutely, positively, unquestionably need to make a floating measurement, float the DUT, do not float your equipment. Stay safe out there.
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        You can't float everything without an isolation transformer - the neutral will be connected to ground at the entry into the building. For safety any class I equipment does need to remain grounded, in my lab I have an isolation transformer only for the equipment under test, the scope and power supplies still have the case grounds, and are tolerant of the inputs/outputs floating up to 50V from ground (per their manuals). If I need to measure high side DC stuff, I can connect the high side to the scope ground (since the isolation transformer allows that offset) but a differential probe is still needed for measuring small signals with a large offset - it's far cheaper to buy one than smoke an oscilloscope






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          If I could, I would upvote this a thousand times. OP, if you really, absolutely, positively, unquestionably need to make a floating measurement, float the DUT, do not float your equipment. Stay safe out there.
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        You can't float everything without an isolation transformer - the neutral will be connected to ground at the entry into the building. For safety any class I equipment does need to remain grounded, in my lab I have an isolation transformer only for the equipment under test, the scope and power supplies still have the case grounds, and are tolerant of the inputs/outputs floating up to 50V from ground (per their manuals). If I need to measure high side DC stuff, I can connect the high side to the scope ground (since the isolation transformer allows that offset) but a differential probe is still needed for measuring small signals with a large offset - it's far cheaper to buy one than smoke an oscilloscope






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        You can't float everything without an isolation transformer - the neutral will be connected to ground at the entry into the building. For safety any class I equipment does need to remain grounded, in my lab I have an isolation transformer only for the equipment under test, the scope and power supplies still have the case grounds, and are tolerant of the inputs/outputs floating up to 50V from ground (per their manuals). If I need to measure high side DC stuff, I can connect the high side to the scope ground (since the isolation transformer allows that offset) but a differential probe is still needed for measuring small signals with a large offset - it's far cheaper to buy one than smoke an oscilloscope







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          If I could, I would upvote this a thousand times. OP, if you really, absolutely, positively, unquestionably need to make a floating measurement, float the DUT, do not float your equipment. Stay safe out there.
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        If I could, I would upvote this a thousand times. OP, if you really, absolutely, positively, unquestionably need to make a floating measurement, float the DUT, do not float your equipment. Stay safe out there.
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        What is the right way to float my home lab?




        If you want to make measurements that are isolated from ground, the only way to do this is with an isolation transformer if your scope is not isolated. There are very few reasons to do this, a high voltage setup would be one reason. Some AC measurements would be another. Differential probes are best.




        Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing
        the ground from the socket coming from the device?




        A reason to do this would for breaking a ground loop on the scope, so that is most likely the only piece of equipment that you'd need to do this on. If you are doing this for AC measurements, the scope could also be floated. It is unsafe to do this on power supplies, where will the fault current go? Not to ground.



        There are better ways to eliminate ground loops, one being a differential probe (kind of pricey). Another would be minimizing the grounds between devices, and making sure they are not plugged in on different circuits or plugs. (I've had a few times where this was an issue)




        Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground
        of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?




        No, also very unsafe. No path for a fault current.






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          What is the right way to float my home lab?




          If you want to make measurements that are isolated from ground, the only way to do this is with an isolation transformer if your scope is not isolated. There are very few reasons to do this, a high voltage setup would be one reason. Some AC measurements would be another. Differential probes are best.




          Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing
          the ground from the socket coming from the device?




          A reason to do this would for breaking a ground loop on the scope, so that is most likely the only piece of equipment that you'd need to do this on. If you are doing this for AC measurements, the scope could also be floated. It is unsafe to do this on power supplies, where will the fault current go? Not to ground.



          There are better ways to eliminate ground loops, one being a differential probe (kind of pricey). Another would be minimizing the grounds between devices, and making sure they are not plugged in on different circuits or plugs. (I've had a few times where this was an issue)




          Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground
          of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?




          No, also very unsafe. No path for a fault current.






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            What is the right way to float my home lab?




            If you want to make measurements that are isolated from ground, the only way to do this is with an isolation transformer if your scope is not isolated. There are very few reasons to do this, a high voltage setup would be one reason. Some AC measurements would be another. Differential probes are best.




            Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing
            the ground from the socket coming from the device?




            A reason to do this would for breaking a ground loop on the scope, so that is most likely the only piece of equipment that you'd need to do this on. If you are doing this for AC measurements, the scope could also be floated. It is unsafe to do this on power supplies, where will the fault current go? Not to ground.



            There are better ways to eliminate ground loops, one being a differential probe (kind of pricey). Another would be minimizing the grounds between devices, and making sure they are not plugged in on different circuits or plugs. (I've had a few times where this was an issue)




            Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground
            of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?




            No, also very unsafe. No path for a fault current.






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            What is the right way to float my home lab?




            If you want to make measurements that are isolated from ground, the only way to do this is with an isolation transformer if your scope is not isolated. There are very few reasons to do this, a high voltage setup would be one reason. Some AC measurements would be another. Differential probes are best.




            Do I float my three devices separately? For example, somehow removing
            the ground from the socket coming from the device?




            A reason to do this would for breaking a ground loop on the scope, so that is most likely the only piece of equipment that you'd need to do this on. If you are doing this for AC measurements, the scope could also be floated. It is unsafe to do this on power supplies, where will the fault current go? Not to ground.



            There are better ways to eliminate ground loops, one being a differential probe (kind of pricey). Another would be minimizing the grounds between devices, and making sure they are not plugged in on different circuits or plugs. (I've had a few times where this was an issue)




            Can I plug everything into a mains power strip and remove the ground
            of the mains power strip before plugging it into the wall?




            No, also very unsafe. No path for a fault current.







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                If everything you do is DC, all you need is a DMM.



                Likely what you meant is that it is low voltage but DC to high frequency.



                Earth ground is advantageous two good reasons;



                1) safety



                • the line filter noise currents to the metal frame will go thru you if not earth grounded but your body has stray capacitance to earth

                • line transients

                2) performance



                • EMI reduction with lower CM noise which will be induced into your high impedance circuits.

                You may want a consider a static-dissipative work surface, flooring, shoes, wrist strap, soldering iron.



                Proper high-frequency DC supply measurements



                When it comes to measuring supply ripple, you need an earth grounded low impedance AC coupled coax direct to the scope with an earth ground for a low impedance. A floating ground would inject a high common mode voltage that could get inject noise current into your DUT.



                it is always best to measure AC coupled with an external Cap to scope using coax without a probe terminated with cable impedance using an internal option or using a BNC T with 50R inserted.



                You don't need a differential probe if you can make one. Most measuremenats can be made with A-B with two matched 10:1 probes. WHen probe ground inductance causes resonance > 20MHz, simply remove clips and use tip and ring.






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                  If everything you do is DC, all you need is a DMM.



                  Likely what you meant is that it is low voltage but DC to high frequency.



                  Earth ground is advantageous two good reasons;



                  1) safety



                  • the line filter noise currents to the metal frame will go thru you if not earth grounded but your body has stray capacitance to earth

                  • line transients

                  2) performance



                  • EMI reduction with lower CM noise which will be induced into your high impedance circuits.

                  You may want a consider a static-dissipative work surface, flooring, shoes, wrist strap, soldering iron.



                  Proper high-frequency DC supply measurements



                  When it comes to measuring supply ripple, you need an earth grounded low impedance AC coupled coax direct to the scope with an earth ground for a low impedance. A floating ground would inject a high common mode voltage that could get inject noise current into your DUT.



                  it is always best to measure AC coupled with an external Cap to scope using coax without a probe terminated with cable impedance using an internal option or using a BNC T with 50R inserted.



                  You don't need a differential probe if you can make one. Most measuremenats can be made with A-B with two matched 10:1 probes. WHen probe ground inductance causes resonance > 20MHz, simply remove clips and use tip and ring.






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                    $begingroup$

                    If everything you do is DC, all you need is a DMM.



                    Likely what you meant is that it is low voltage but DC to high frequency.



                    Earth ground is advantageous two good reasons;



                    1) safety



                    • the line filter noise currents to the metal frame will go thru you if not earth grounded but your body has stray capacitance to earth

                    • line transients

                    2) performance



                    • EMI reduction with lower CM noise which will be induced into your high impedance circuits.

                    You may want a consider a static-dissipative work surface, flooring, shoes, wrist strap, soldering iron.



                    Proper high-frequency DC supply measurements



                    When it comes to measuring supply ripple, you need an earth grounded low impedance AC coupled coax direct to the scope with an earth ground for a low impedance. A floating ground would inject a high common mode voltage that could get inject noise current into your DUT.



                    it is always best to measure AC coupled with an external Cap to scope using coax without a probe terminated with cable impedance using an internal option or using a BNC T with 50R inserted.



                    You don't need a differential probe if you can make one. Most measuremenats can be made with A-B with two matched 10:1 probes. WHen probe ground inductance causes resonance > 20MHz, simply remove clips and use tip and ring.






                    share|improve this answer









                    $endgroup$



                    If everything you do is DC, all you need is a DMM.



                    Likely what you meant is that it is low voltage but DC to high frequency.



                    Earth ground is advantageous two good reasons;



                    1) safety



                    • the line filter noise currents to the metal frame will go thru you if not earth grounded but your body has stray capacitance to earth

                    • line transients

                    2) performance



                    • EMI reduction with lower CM noise which will be induced into your high impedance circuits.

                    You may want a consider a static-dissipative work surface, flooring, shoes, wrist strap, soldering iron.



                    Proper high-frequency DC supply measurements



                    When it comes to measuring supply ripple, you need an earth grounded low impedance AC coupled coax direct to the scope with an earth ground for a low impedance. A floating ground would inject a high common mode voltage that could get inject noise current into your DUT.



                    it is always best to measure AC coupled with an external Cap to scope using coax without a probe terminated with cable impedance using an internal option or using a BNC T with 50R inserted.



                    You don't need a differential probe if you can make one. Most measuremenats can be made with A-B with two matched 10:1 probes. WHen probe ground inductance causes resonance > 20MHz, simply remove clips and use tip and ring.







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                        There is no right way to float your home lab.



                        1) No. Right way is not to float equipment that must be grounded.



                        2) No. Don't float any of them. Equipment that have grounded plugs NEED to be grounded for a reason.



                        3) No. Because again, equipment with ground pins need to be grounded! Having all lab equipment and the device being examined being connected to single power strip at least makes them being powered from same mains phase and having a single point ground reference.






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                          There is no right way to float your home lab.



                          1) No. Right way is not to float equipment that must be grounded.



                          2) No. Don't float any of them. Equipment that have grounded plugs NEED to be grounded for a reason.



                          3) No. Because again, equipment with ground pins need to be grounded! Having all lab equipment and the device being examined being connected to single power strip at least makes them being powered from same mains phase and having a single point ground reference.






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                            There is no right way to float your home lab.



                            1) No. Right way is not to float equipment that must be grounded.



                            2) No. Don't float any of them. Equipment that have grounded plugs NEED to be grounded for a reason.



                            3) No. Because again, equipment with ground pins need to be grounded! Having all lab equipment and the device being examined being connected to single power strip at least makes them being powered from same mains phase and having a single point ground reference.






                            share|improve this answer









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                            There is no right way to float your home lab.



                            1) No. Right way is not to float equipment that must be grounded.



                            2) No. Don't float any of them. Equipment that have grounded plugs NEED to be grounded for a reason.



                            3) No. Because again, equipment with ground pins need to be grounded! Having all lab equipment and the device being examined being connected to single power strip at least makes them being powered from same mains phase and having a single point ground reference.







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