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The most awesome army: 80 men left and 81 returned. Is it true?
What are the most comprehensive historical references for ancient India?Which lost historical documents, when uncovered, led to the most substantial revisions in historiography?Are these remarks by Napoleon on Jesus genuine?What field guns, howitzers and mortars were used by the Indian Army and the Pakistan Army during the 1971 war?Is there a precedent for a large amount of refugees granted asylumn by a distant foreign nation3rd party (foreign nationality) forces active in Iran-Iraq war?Any sources on day to day governance in the ancient world?What were the most used drugs in battles and wars?What was the true status of Hessian mercenaries?Did a German plane really land in Moscow in 1941 May?
On this wikipedia page, I read the funny story of the Lichtenstein's army, which should have at least earned the title of the "most friendly army in the world".
I am not a historian, and I have no idea where to look for other authoritative sources, but I would like to know if that paragraph is history or if it's only a nice legend. Then my question is: is there an authoritative source that proves it?
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On this wikipedia page, I read the funny story of the Lichtenstein's army, which should have at least earned the title of the "most friendly army in the world".
I am not a historian, and I have no idea where to look for other authoritative sources, but I would like to know if that paragraph is history or if it's only a nice legend. Then my question is: is there an authoritative source that proves it?
war sources
New contributor
Even if the facts were real, stating that arriving in Liechtenstein a stronger force than when they had left. is missleading unless in their way from the mountain pass back to Vaduz they had enlisted the Austrian within the army (and no, you usually do not enlist soldiers on the march, and much less foreign ones). It would make most sense to call that Austrian a civilian, an interned Austrian soldier or even a prisoner.
– SJuan76
10 hours ago
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@SJuan76: true, but i mean that the 81st men went happily "back". As long as it wasn't forced it's positive to me.
– theGarz
9 hours ago
I thought you were going to say one was a pregnant woman masquerading as an enlisted man... ... but the story as presented is kind of bleah... and probably happened all the time.
– sofa general
6 hours ago
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On this wikipedia page, I read the funny story of the Lichtenstein's army, which should have at least earned the title of the "most friendly army in the world".
I am not a historian, and I have no idea where to look for other authoritative sources, but I would like to know if that paragraph is history or if it's only a nice legend. Then my question is: is there an authoritative source that proves it?
war sources
New contributor
On this wikipedia page, I read the funny story of the Lichtenstein's army, which should have at least earned the title of the "most friendly army in the world".
I am not a historian, and I have no idea where to look for other authoritative sources, but I would like to know if that paragraph is history or if it's only a nice legend. Then my question is: is there an authoritative source that proves it?
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Even if the facts were real, stating that arriving in Liechtenstein a stronger force than when they had left. is missleading unless in their way from the mountain pass back to Vaduz they had enlisted the Austrian within the army (and no, you usually do not enlist soldiers on the march, and much less foreign ones). It would make most sense to call that Austrian a civilian, an interned Austrian soldier or even a prisoner.
– SJuan76
10 hours ago
2
@SJuan76: true, but i mean that the 81st men went happily "back". As long as it wasn't forced it's positive to me.
– theGarz
9 hours ago
I thought you were going to say one was a pregnant woman masquerading as an enlisted man... ... but the story as presented is kind of bleah... and probably happened all the time.
– sofa general
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Even if the facts were real, stating that arriving in Liechtenstein a stronger force than when they had left. is missleading unless in their way from the mountain pass back to Vaduz they had enlisted the Austrian within the army (and no, you usually do not enlist soldiers on the march, and much less foreign ones). It would make most sense to call that Austrian a civilian, an interned Austrian soldier or even a prisoner.
– SJuan76
10 hours ago
2
@SJuan76: true, but i mean that the 81st men went happily "back". As long as it wasn't forced it's positive to me.
– theGarz
9 hours ago
I thought you were going to say one was a pregnant woman masquerading as an enlisted man... ... but the story as presented is kind of bleah... and probably happened all the time.
– sofa general
6 hours ago
Even if the facts were real, stating that arriving in Liechtenstein a stronger force than when they had left. is missleading unless in their way from the mountain pass back to Vaduz they had enlisted the Austrian within the army (and no, you usually do not enlist soldiers on the march, and much less foreign ones). It would make most sense to call that Austrian a civilian, an interned Austrian soldier or even a prisoner.
– SJuan76
10 hours ago
Even if the facts were real, stating that arriving in Liechtenstein a stronger force than when they had left. is missleading unless in their way from the mountain pass back to Vaduz they had enlisted the Austrian within the army (and no, you usually do not enlist soldiers on the march, and much less foreign ones). It would make most sense to call that Austrian a civilian, an interned Austrian soldier or even a prisoner.
– SJuan76
10 hours ago
2
2
@SJuan76: true, but i mean that the 81st men went happily "back". As long as it wasn't forced it's positive to me.
– theGarz
9 hours ago
@SJuan76: true, but i mean that the 81st men went happily "back". As long as it wasn't forced it's positive to me.
– theGarz
9 hours ago
I thought you were going to say one was a pregnant woman masquerading as an enlisted man... ... but the story as presented is kind of bleah... and probably happened all the time.
– sofa general
6 hours ago
I thought you were going to say one was a pregnant woman masquerading as an enlisted man... ... but the story as presented is kind of bleah... and probably happened all the time.
– sofa general
6 hours ago
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Seems to check out, for a small part at least:
With 80 men moved out, with 81 returned home
The relief at home was great: "Already in Nendeln the contingent of authorities, relatives and population was celebrated," says Geiger. And the legend is true: The 80 Liechtenstein soldiers came home with one more soldier whom the troop had won as a friend. "There are rumours to this day that he was an Austrian conscientious objector or servant looking for work in Liechtenstein," explains Geiger. That, on the other hand, is not true. The 81st man was an Austrian officer who accompanied the contingent as a liaison man and as a kind of guard of honour.
Als die Armee mit 81 Mann zurückkehrte
But when they picked up the foreigner, and of which nationality, seems doubtful. This claims "an Italian". This as well:
In 1866 they went to war for the last time, with 80 men they went out against the Italians. With 81 men they returned home - on the way they had made friends.
As it was at the time 'for the Austrians' and planned as against the Prussians, but ultimately guarding against Italians, either way cannot be ruled out.
At least, the "80 men marched out", is long accepted history.
Even if the identity or nationality of the new friend seems doubtful, Geiger is the author of numerous books on the matter and curator of the national museum of Liechtenstein.
Geiger, Peter: 1866 – Liechtenstein im Krieg – Vor 150 Jahren, Katalog zur gleichnamigen, von Peter Geiger kuratierten Ausstellung im Liechtensteinischen Landesmuseum (Mai – September 2016), Vaduz 2016, 96 Seiten.
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Seems to check out, for a small part at least:
With 80 men moved out, with 81 returned home
The relief at home was great: "Already in Nendeln the contingent of authorities, relatives and population was celebrated," says Geiger. And the legend is true: The 80 Liechtenstein soldiers came home with one more soldier whom the troop had won as a friend. "There are rumours to this day that he was an Austrian conscientious objector or servant looking for work in Liechtenstein," explains Geiger. That, on the other hand, is not true. The 81st man was an Austrian officer who accompanied the contingent as a liaison man and as a kind of guard of honour.
Als die Armee mit 81 Mann zurückkehrte
But when they picked up the foreigner, and of which nationality, seems doubtful. This claims "an Italian". This as well:
In 1866 they went to war for the last time, with 80 men they went out against the Italians. With 81 men they returned home - on the way they had made friends.
As it was at the time 'for the Austrians' and planned as against the Prussians, but ultimately guarding against Italians, either way cannot be ruled out.
At least, the "80 men marched out", is long accepted history.
Even if the identity or nationality of the new friend seems doubtful, Geiger is the author of numerous books on the matter and curator of the national museum of Liechtenstein.
Geiger, Peter: 1866 – Liechtenstein im Krieg – Vor 150 Jahren, Katalog zur gleichnamigen, von Peter Geiger kuratierten Ausstellung im Liechtensteinischen Landesmuseum (Mai – September 2016), Vaduz 2016, 96 Seiten.
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Seems to check out, for a small part at least:
With 80 men moved out, with 81 returned home
The relief at home was great: "Already in Nendeln the contingent of authorities, relatives and population was celebrated," says Geiger. And the legend is true: The 80 Liechtenstein soldiers came home with one more soldier whom the troop had won as a friend. "There are rumours to this day that he was an Austrian conscientious objector or servant looking for work in Liechtenstein," explains Geiger. That, on the other hand, is not true. The 81st man was an Austrian officer who accompanied the contingent as a liaison man and as a kind of guard of honour.
Als die Armee mit 81 Mann zurückkehrte
But when they picked up the foreigner, and of which nationality, seems doubtful. This claims "an Italian". This as well:
In 1866 they went to war for the last time, with 80 men they went out against the Italians. With 81 men they returned home - on the way they had made friends.
As it was at the time 'for the Austrians' and planned as against the Prussians, but ultimately guarding against Italians, either way cannot be ruled out.
At least, the "80 men marched out", is long accepted history.
Even if the identity or nationality of the new friend seems doubtful, Geiger is the author of numerous books on the matter and curator of the national museum of Liechtenstein.
Geiger, Peter: 1866 – Liechtenstein im Krieg – Vor 150 Jahren, Katalog zur gleichnamigen, von Peter Geiger kuratierten Ausstellung im Liechtensteinischen Landesmuseum (Mai – September 2016), Vaduz 2016, 96 Seiten.
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Seems to check out, for a small part at least:
With 80 men moved out, with 81 returned home
The relief at home was great: "Already in Nendeln the contingent of authorities, relatives and population was celebrated," says Geiger. And the legend is true: The 80 Liechtenstein soldiers came home with one more soldier whom the troop had won as a friend. "There are rumours to this day that he was an Austrian conscientious objector or servant looking for work in Liechtenstein," explains Geiger. That, on the other hand, is not true. The 81st man was an Austrian officer who accompanied the contingent as a liaison man and as a kind of guard of honour.
Als die Armee mit 81 Mann zurückkehrte
But when they picked up the foreigner, and of which nationality, seems doubtful. This claims "an Italian". This as well:
In 1866 they went to war for the last time, with 80 men they went out against the Italians. With 81 men they returned home - on the way they had made friends.
As it was at the time 'for the Austrians' and planned as against the Prussians, but ultimately guarding against Italians, either way cannot be ruled out.
At least, the "80 men marched out", is long accepted history.
Even if the identity or nationality of the new friend seems doubtful, Geiger is the author of numerous books on the matter and curator of the national museum of Liechtenstein.
Geiger, Peter: 1866 – Liechtenstein im Krieg – Vor 150 Jahren, Katalog zur gleichnamigen, von Peter Geiger kuratierten Ausstellung im Liechtensteinischen Landesmuseum (Mai – September 2016), Vaduz 2016, 96 Seiten.
Seems to check out, for a small part at least:
With 80 men moved out, with 81 returned home
The relief at home was great: "Already in Nendeln the contingent of authorities, relatives and population was celebrated," says Geiger. And the legend is true: The 80 Liechtenstein soldiers came home with one more soldier whom the troop had won as a friend. "There are rumours to this day that he was an Austrian conscientious objector or servant looking for work in Liechtenstein," explains Geiger. That, on the other hand, is not true. The 81st man was an Austrian officer who accompanied the contingent as a liaison man and as a kind of guard of honour.
Als die Armee mit 81 Mann zurückkehrte
But when they picked up the foreigner, and of which nationality, seems doubtful. This claims "an Italian". This as well:
In 1866 they went to war for the last time, with 80 men they went out against the Italians. With 81 men they returned home - on the way they had made friends.
As it was at the time 'for the Austrians' and planned as against the Prussians, but ultimately guarding against Italians, either way cannot be ruled out.
At least, the "80 men marched out", is long accepted history.
Even if the identity or nationality of the new friend seems doubtful, Geiger is the author of numerous books on the matter and curator of the national museum of Liechtenstein.
Geiger, Peter: 1866 – Liechtenstein im Krieg – Vor 150 Jahren, Katalog zur gleichnamigen, von Peter Geiger kuratierten Ausstellung im Liechtensteinischen Landesmuseum (Mai – September 2016), Vaduz 2016, 96 Seiten.
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Even if the facts were real, stating that arriving in Liechtenstein a stronger force than when they had left. is missleading unless in their way from the mountain pass back to Vaduz they had enlisted the Austrian within the army (and no, you usually do not enlist soldiers on the march, and much less foreign ones). It would make most sense to call that Austrian a civilian, an interned Austrian soldier or even a prisoner.
– SJuan76
10 hours ago
2
@SJuan76: true, but i mean that the 81st men went happily "back". As long as it wasn't forced it's positive to me.
– theGarz
9 hours ago
I thought you were going to say one was a pregnant woman masquerading as an enlisted man... ... but the story as presented is kind of bleah... and probably happened all the time.
– sofa general
6 hours ago