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Advisor asked for my entire slide presentation so she could give the presentation at an international conference
My advisor rejects my idea, but claims that the modified version is hers. What should I do?What to do (years later) with otherwise good student who has accidentally plagiarised part of PhD thesis?Cannot present paper at conference. Instructor wants to move me to second authorWhat information should the speaker transmit during the title slide of a conference presentation?How to work with an overly positive advisor?How do I make the case to regain first authorship?
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First, she never helped me on either my thesis or my slide presentation.
After my presentation (which she did not attend), she asked me "how to present" it to her so she could use it in the international conference.
(I don't want to do that, but I have no choice.)
Then, she asked me to send the whole presentation.
I sent it to her as a PDF file.
Later, she asked me for the "power point presentation" with the script.
I really don't want to give it to her.
What should I do?
P.S. She never gives anybody credit. (She did this before with my senior.)
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First, she never helped me on either my thesis or my slide presentation.
After my presentation (which she did not attend), she asked me "how to present" it to her so she could use it in the international conference.
(I don't want to do that, but I have no choice.)
Then, she asked me to send the whole presentation.
I sent it to her as a PDF file.
Later, she asked me for the "power point presentation" with the script.
I really don't want to give it to her.
What should I do?
P.S. She never gives anybody credit. (She did this before with my senior.)
advisor conference plagiarism presentation
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More contextul information is needed before we can answer this. For example, are you funded by a grant held by your supervisor which gives co-author status to all work produced by grant staff (such as an ERC grant)? Is there a clear reason why you cannot go to the international conference and present the material yourself?
– GrotesqueSI
19 hours ago
5
Why did you stay with her after your senior? It's one thing to fall into the trap of a supervisor who does not give credit, it is quite another to repeat this. At this stage, probably you are better off just giving her what she wants and get rid of your project as soon as you can.
– Captain Emacs
18 hours ago
1
Sometimes there are unpleasant or wrong situations for which an answer is almost impossible. Consider that if she doesn't even remove your name the situation will be less dramatic.
– Alchimista
17 hours ago
2
@GrotesqueSI: Yes, my thesis was funded by the grant from government which is purposed by my advisor. She is my co-author. I could share her my figures, results and everything. I'm OK if she share my result in the conference with the presentation created by her (not her student). But asking me to teach her how to present my own presentation in the conference is too much. As far as I know, she is invited speaker. Thank you for your comment. I might consider ask her directly that can I go to the conference and present it by myself.
– Lucus
17 hours ago
2
How long was your talk? How long is her talk? If you had a fifteen minute talk she's going to work into her 90 minute keynote, that's a bit different
– Azor Ahai
10 hours ago
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First, she never helped me on either my thesis or my slide presentation.
After my presentation (which she did not attend), she asked me "how to present" it to her so she could use it in the international conference.
(I don't want to do that, but I have no choice.)
Then, she asked me to send the whole presentation.
I sent it to her as a PDF file.
Later, she asked me for the "power point presentation" with the script.
I really don't want to give it to her.
What should I do?
P.S. She never gives anybody credit. (She did this before with my senior.)
advisor conference plagiarism presentation
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First, she never helped me on either my thesis or my slide presentation.
After my presentation (which she did not attend), she asked me "how to present" it to her so she could use it in the international conference.
(I don't want to do that, but I have no choice.)
Then, she asked me to send the whole presentation.
I sent it to her as a PDF file.
Later, she asked me for the "power point presentation" with the script.
I really don't want to give it to her.
What should I do?
P.S. She never gives anybody credit. (She did this before with my senior.)
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More contextul information is needed before we can answer this. For example, are you funded by a grant held by your supervisor which gives co-author status to all work produced by grant staff (such as an ERC grant)? Is there a clear reason why you cannot go to the international conference and present the material yourself?
– GrotesqueSI
19 hours ago
5
Why did you stay with her after your senior? It's one thing to fall into the trap of a supervisor who does not give credit, it is quite another to repeat this. At this stage, probably you are better off just giving her what she wants and get rid of your project as soon as you can.
– Captain Emacs
18 hours ago
1
Sometimes there are unpleasant or wrong situations for which an answer is almost impossible. Consider that if she doesn't even remove your name the situation will be less dramatic.
– Alchimista
17 hours ago
2
@GrotesqueSI: Yes, my thesis was funded by the grant from government which is purposed by my advisor. She is my co-author. I could share her my figures, results and everything. I'm OK if she share my result in the conference with the presentation created by her (not her student). But asking me to teach her how to present my own presentation in the conference is too much. As far as I know, she is invited speaker. Thank you for your comment. I might consider ask her directly that can I go to the conference and present it by myself.
– Lucus
17 hours ago
2
How long was your talk? How long is her talk? If you had a fifteen minute talk she's going to work into her 90 minute keynote, that's a bit different
– Azor Ahai
10 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
3
More contextul information is needed before we can answer this. For example, are you funded by a grant held by your supervisor which gives co-author status to all work produced by grant staff (such as an ERC grant)? Is there a clear reason why you cannot go to the international conference and present the material yourself?
– GrotesqueSI
19 hours ago
5
Why did you stay with her after your senior? It's one thing to fall into the trap of a supervisor who does not give credit, it is quite another to repeat this. At this stage, probably you are better off just giving her what she wants and get rid of your project as soon as you can.
– Captain Emacs
18 hours ago
1
Sometimes there are unpleasant or wrong situations for which an answer is almost impossible. Consider that if she doesn't even remove your name the situation will be less dramatic.
– Alchimista
17 hours ago
2
@GrotesqueSI: Yes, my thesis was funded by the grant from government which is purposed by my advisor. She is my co-author. I could share her my figures, results and everything. I'm OK if she share my result in the conference with the presentation created by her (not her student). But asking me to teach her how to present my own presentation in the conference is too much. As far as I know, she is invited speaker. Thank you for your comment. I might consider ask her directly that can I go to the conference and present it by myself.
– Lucus
17 hours ago
2
How long was your talk? How long is her talk? If you had a fifteen minute talk she's going to work into her 90 minute keynote, that's a bit different
– Azor Ahai
10 hours ago
3
3
More contextul information is needed before we can answer this. For example, are you funded by a grant held by your supervisor which gives co-author status to all work produced by grant staff (such as an ERC grant)? Is there a clear reason why you cannot go to the international conference and present the material yourself?
– GrotesqueSI
19 hours ago
More contextul information is needed before we can answer this. For example, are you funded by a grant held by your supervisor which gives co-author status to all work produced by grant staff (such as an ERC grant)? Is there a clear reason why you cannot go to the international conference and present the material yourself?
– GrotesqueSI
19 hours ago
5
5
Why did you stay with her after your senior? It's one thing to fall into the trap of a supervisor who does not give credit, it is quite another to repeat this. At this stage, probably you are better off just giving her what she wants and get rid of your project as soon as you can.
– Captain Emacs
18 hours ago
Why did you stay with her after your senior? It's one thing to fall into the trap of a supervisor who does not give credit, it is quite another to repeat this. At this stage, probably you are better off just giving her what she wants and get rid of your project as soon as you can.
– Captain Emacs
18 hours ago
1
1
Sometimes there are unpleasant or wrong situations for which an answer is almost impossible. Consider that if she doesn't even remove your name the situation will be less dramatic.
– Alchimista
17 hours ago
Sometimes there are unpleasant or wrong situations for which an answer is almost impossible. Consider that if she doesn't even remove your name the situation will be less dramatic.
– Alchimista
17 hours ago
2
2
@GrotesqueSI: Yes, my thesis was funded by the grant from government which is purposed by my advisor. She is my co-author. I could share her my figures, results and everything. I'm OK if she share my result in the conference with the presentation created by her (not her student). But asking me to teach her how to present my own presentation in the conference is too much. As far as I know, she is invited speaker. Thank you for your comment. I might consider ask her directly that can I go to the conference and present it by myself.
– Lucus
17 hours ago
@GrotesqueSI: Yes, my thesis was funded by the grant from government which is purposed by my advisor. She is my co-author. I could share her my figures, results and everything. I'm OK if she share my result in the conference with the presentation created by her (not her student). But asking me to teach her how to present my own presentation in the conference is too much. As far as I know, she is invited speaker. Thank you for your comment. I might consider ask her directly that can I go to the conference and present it by myself.
– Lucus
17 hours ago
2
2
How long was your talk? How long is her talk? If you had a fifteen minute talk she's going to work into her 90 minute keynote, that's a bit different
– Azor Ahai
10 hours ago
How long was your talk? How long is her talk? If you had a fifteen minute talk she's going to work into her 90 minute keynote, that's a bit different
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As an advisor, I regularly use my students’ slides when I present my current projects. This is usually done within the context of high level presentations: I’m working on important project X; Alice and I worked on X.a which resulted in such and such, and with Bob on X.b which resulted in so and so. Claire and I are working with Alice to extend to X.c. If your advisor is supportive and showcases your work, she’s increasing its visibility and helping your career.
To conclude, presenting students’ work is not necessarily a bad thing and can help them a lot.
What is more concerning is that you seem to have serious trust issues with your advisor. She may be passing off her students’ work as her own but I honestly think that this is either a misunderstanding or something else. Advisors normally want to show that their students are doing well, not that they’re being totally shepherded by the advisor. This reflects badly on the advisor which is why I think it’s unusual.
If things have gotten to the point where you’re not harboring any goodwill to her, I suggest you rethink your options. If there’s a chance of a conversation to rebuild trust, try and have one.
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Reading the comments: if my advisor were to present my results as part of an invited talk I’d be honored and ecstatic! That you are not indicates that you have major issues with her which you two need to figure out ASAP.
– Spark
14 hours ago
1
My advisor, even though he was the keynote speaker actually introduced me to present my/our research... seems like the saying “all advisors are equal, but some are more equal than others” is so apt...
– Solar Mike
12 hours ago
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What your advisor did is really uncommon, and I’m not even sure whether it’s appropriate. I never had to give keynotes, but in grant review presentations I wouldn’t dream of dragging my students to present just to highlight the obvious fact that they’re lead authors. In keynotes people want to hear the speaker; other uncalled speakers is bad form. If I organize an event and someone pulls this off without telling me I’d be pissed.
– Spark
12 hours ago
1
Just because you scrupulously attribute other people's work to them when presenting it, doesn't sound like OP's advisor will do that... And it likely isn't about personal relationships, there simply are many (academic) cultures in the world where plagiarism, misattribution and theft are everyday behavior (depends on country), academics think they're entitled to.
– smci
4 hours ago
@smci but that’d be really weird if she didn’t. I’m just not seeing how that would benefit the advisor. Your students doing well probably reflects better on a professor than independent work (at least in my university). I feel like there’s a misunderstanding or a trust issue here, rather than truly unethical behavior.
– Spark
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It's pretty common in my experience for advisors to present their students' work, with acknowledgement of the students' contributions. They'll often combine slides from several students' presentations into one talk for a conference, but they can also present just one student's work. In that case they usually say something like "The work I am going to talk about today was all/mostly done by my student, Whoever McLearny", at the start of the presentation.
Prepare a version of the slides specifically for your advisor to present, with her as the presenter, and with whatever acknowledgement of your authorship you feel is appropriate. This could be as simple as the first slide having you as the first author and your advisor as the last author, with your advisor's name somehow highlighted to indicate that she is the speaker. Or it could be having your name and picture featured prominently on an acknowledgements slide at the end of the presentation, along with any other group members who contributed. Or it could be your name in the corner of all the important figure slides, to show you did that work in particular, if the slides are going into a longer presentation.
Then you can send your advisor a nice pre-made presentation, and she won't have to do any extra work to cite you, because it will have already been done. It also communicates what form of acknowledgement you feel is appropriate.
On the other hand, if you think you and your advisor have very different ideas about how much or what form of credit is appropriate in the presentation for your contribution to the work, you need to have a talk with your advisor about it.
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One benefit of her giving your presentation is that she will be actively promoting your work. For example, my adviser presented my theoretical work 3 times at 3 different conferences, and found an experimental collaborator to show that my theories were correct.
The more exposure your research gets, the higher the possibility for citations, which then leads to better career opportunities.
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If you have to give it to her, then give it as an executable not the slides...
That way she cannot remove your name or change the order of the slides... so it stays as you would present it yourself.
You should speak to someone above her to make the situation clear.
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Going over advisor’s head over slides? That’s like the nuclear option and it could very well be a simple misunderstanding. Taking about your students’ work in keynotes helps students, not hurts them.
– Spark
13 hours ago
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@Spark unless the advisor takes the slides, replaces OP's name with her own, and presents the work as her own, which seems to be what OP implies, though this is not quiet crystal clear.
– jcaron
11 hours ago
If she does that she does academic missconduct and the OP can prove it.... Going the nuclear way because he is affraid this may happen is still the wrong approach, he/she can simply wait and then produce proof when going over her head.
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As an advisor, I regularly use my students’ slides when I present my current projects. This is usually done within the context of high level presentations: I’m working on important project X; Alice and I worked on X.a which resulted in such and such, and with Bob on X.b which resulted in so and so. Claire and I are working with Alice to extend to X.c. If your advisor is supportive and showcases your work, she’s increasing its visibility and helping your career.
To conclude, presenting students’ work is not necessarily a bad thing and can help them a lot.
What is more concerning is that you seem to have serious trust issues with your advisor. She may be passing off her students’ work as her own but I honestly think that this is either a misunderstanding or something else. Advisors normally want to show that their students are doing well, not that they’re being totally shepherded by the advisor. This reflects badly on the advisor which is why I think it’s unusual.
If things have gotten to the point where you’re not harboring any goodwill to her, I suggest you rethink your options. If there’s a chance of a conversation to rebuild trust, try and have one.
13
Reading the comments: if my advisor were to present my results as part of an invited talk I’d be honored and ecstatic! That you are not indicates that you have major issues with her which you two need to figure out ASAP.
– Spark
14 hours ago
1
My advisor, even though he was the keynote speaker actually introduced me to present my/our research... seems like the saying “all advisors are equal, but some are more equal than others” is so apt...
– Solar Mike
12 hours ago
11
What your advisor did is really uncommon, and I’m not even sure whether it’s appropriate. I never had to give keynotes, but in grant review presentations I wouldn’t dream of dragging my students to present just to highlight the obvious fact that they’re lead authors. In keynotes people want to hear the speaker; other uncalled speakers is bad form. If I organize an event and someone pulls this off without telling me I’d be pissed.
– Spark
12 hours ago
1
Just because you scrupulously attribute other people's work to them when presenting it, doesn't sound like OP's advisor will do that... And it likely isn't about personal relationships, there simply are many (academic) cultures in the world where plagiarism, misattribution and theft are everyday behavior (depends on country), academics think they're entitled to.
– smci
4 hours ago
@smci but that’d be really weird if she didn’t. I’m just not seeing how that would benefit the advisor. Your students doing well probably reflects better on a professor than independent work (at least in my university). I feel like there’s a misunderstanding or a trust issue here, rather than truly unethical behavior.
– Spark
3 hours ago
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As an advisor, I regularly use my students’ slides when I present my current projects. This is usually done within the context of high level presentations: I’m working on important project X; Alice and I worked on X.a which resulted in such and such, and with Bob on X.b which resulted in so and so. Claire and I are working with Alice to extend to X.c. If your advisor is supportive and showcases your work, she’s increasing its visibility and helping your career.
To conclude, presenting students’ work is not necessarily a bad thing and can help them a lot.
What is more concerning is that you seem to have serious trust issues with your advisor. She may be passing off her students’ work as her own but I honestly think that this is either a misunderstanding or something else. Advisors normally want to show that their students are doing well, not that they’re being totally shepherded by the advisor. This reflects badly on the advisor which is why I think it’s unusual.
If things have gotten to the point where you’re not harboring any goodwill to her, I suggest you rethink your options. If there’s a chance of a conversation to rebuild trust, try and have one.
13
Reading the comments: if my advisor were to present my results as part of an invited talk I’d be honored and ecstatic! That you are not indicates that you have major issues with her which you two need to figure out ASAP.
– Spark
14 hours ago
1
My advisor, even though he was the keynote speaker actually introduced me to present my/our research... seems like the saying “all advisors are equal, but some are more equal than others” is so apt...
– Solar Mike
12 hours ago
11
What your advisor did is really uncommon, and I’m not even sure whether it’s appropriate. I never had to give keynotes, but in grant review presentations I wouldn’t dream of dragging my students to present just to highlight the obvious fact that they’re lead authors. In keynotes people want to hear the speaker; other uncalled speakers is bad form. If I organize an event and someone pulls this off without telling me I’d be pissed.
– Spark
12 hours ago
1
Just because you scrupulously attribute other people's work to them when presenting it, doesn't sound like OP's advisor will do that... And it likely isn't about personal relationships, there simply are many (academic) cultures in the world where plagiarism, misattribution and theft are everyday behavior (depends on country), academics think they're entitled to.
– smci
4 hours ago
@smci but that’d be really weird if she didn’t. I’m just not seeing how that would benefit the advisor. Your students doing well probably reflects better on a professor than independent work (at least in my university). I feel like there’s a misunderstanding or a trust issue here, rather than truly unethical behavior.
– Spark
3 hours ago
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As an advisor, I regularly use my students’ slides when I present my current projects. This is usually done within the context of high level presentations: I’m working on important project X; Alice and I worked on X.a which resulted in such and such, and with Bob on X.b which resulted in so and so. Claire and I are working with Alice to extend to X.c. If your advisor is supportive and showcases your work, she’s increasing its visibility and helping your career.
To conclude, presenting students’ work is not necessarily a bad thing and can help them a lot.
What is more concerning is that you seem to have serious trust issues with your advisor. She may be passing off her students’ work as her own but I honestly think that this is either a misunderstanding or something else. Advisors normally want to show that their students are doing well, not that they’re being totally shepherded by the advisor. This reflects badly on the advisor which is why I think it’s unusual.
If things have gotten to the point where you’re not harboring any goodwill to her, I suggest you rethink your options. If there’s a chance of a conversation to rebuild trust, try and have one.
As an advisor, I regularly use my students’ slides when I present my current projects. This is usually done within the context of high level presentations: I’m working on important project X; Alice and I worked on X.a which resulted in such and such, and with Bob on X.b which resulted in so and so. Claire and I are working with Alice to extend to X.c. If your advisor is supportive and showcases your work, she’s increasing its visibility and helping your career.
To conclude, presenting students’ work is not necessarily a bad thing and can help them a lot.
What is more concerning is that you seem to have serious trust issues with your advisor. She may be passing off her students’ work as her own but I honestly think that this is either a misunderstanding or something else. Advisors normally want to show that their students are doing well, not that they’re being totally shepherded by the advisor. This reflects badly on the advisor which is why I think it’s unusual.
If things have gotten to the point where you’re not harboring any goodwill to her, I suggest you rethink your options. If there’s a chance of a conversation to rebuild trust, try and have one.
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Reading the comments: if my advisor were to present my results as part of an invited talk I’d be honored and ecstatic! That you are not indicates that you have major issues with her which you two need to figure out ASAP.
– Spark
14 hours ago
1
My advisor, even though he was the keynote speaker actually introduced me to present my/our research... seems like the saying “all advisors are equal, but some are more equal than others” is so apt...
– Solar Mike
12 hours ago
11
What your advisor did is really uncommon, and I’m not even sure whether it’s appropriate. I never had to give keynotes, but in grant review presentations I wouldn’t dream of dragging my students to present just to highlight the obvious fact that they’re lead authors. In keynotes people want to hear the speaker; other uncalled speakers is bad form. If I organize an event and someone pulls this off without telling me I’d be pissed.
– Spark
12 hours ago
1
Just because you scrupulously attribute other people's work to them when presenting it, doesn't sound like OP's advisor will do that... And it likely isn't about personal relationships, there simply are many (academic) cultures in the world where plagiarism, misattribution and theft are everyday behavior (depends on country), academics think they're entitled to.
– smci
4 hours ago
@smci but that’d be really weird if she didn’t. I’m just not seeing how that would benefit the advisor. Your students doing well probably reflects better on a professor than independent work (at least in my university). I feel like there’s a misunderstanding or a trust issue here, rather than truly unethical behavior.
– Spark
3 hours ago
|
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Reading the comments: if my advisor were to present my results as part of an invited talk I’d be honored and ecstatic! That you are not indicates that you have major issues with her which you two need to figure out ASAP.
– Spark
14 hours ago
1
My advisor, even though he was the keynote speaker actually introduced me to present my/our research... seems like the saying “all advisors are equal, but some are more equal than others” is so apt...
– Solar Mike
12 hours ago
11
What your advisor did is really uncommon, and I’m not even sure whether it’s appropriate. I never had to give keynotes, but in grant review presentations I wouldn’t dream of dragging my students to present just to highlight the obvious fact that they’re lead authors. In keynotes people want to hear the speaker; other uncalled speakers is bad form. If I organize an event and someone pulls this off without telling me I’d be pissed.
– Spark
12 hours ago
1
Just because you scrupulously attribute other people's work to them when presenting it, doesn't sound like OP's advisor will do that... And it likely isn't about personal relationships, there simply are many (academic) cultures in the world where plagiarism, misattribution and theft are everyday behavior (depends on country), academics think they're entitled to.
– smci
4 hours ago
@smci but that’d be really weird if she didn’t. I’m just not seeing how that would benefit the advisor. Your students doing well probably reflects better on a professor than independent work (at least in my university). I feel like there’s a misunderstanding or a trust issue here, rather than truly unethical behavior.
– Spark
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Reading the comments: if my advisor were to present my results as part of an invited talk I’d be honored and ecstatic! That you are not indicates that you have major issues with her which you two need to figure out ASAP.
– Spark
14 hours ago
Reading the comments: if my advisor were to present my results as part of an invited talk I’d be honored and ecstatic! That you are not indicates that you have major issues with her which you two need to figure out ASAP.
– Spark
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My advisor, even though he was the keynote speaker actually introduced me to present my/our research... seems like the saying “all advisors are equal, but some are more equal than others” is so apt...
– Solar Mike
12 hours ago
My advisor, even though he was the keynote speaker actually introduced me to present my/our research... seems like the saying “all advisors are equal, but some are more equal than others” is so apt...
– Solar Mike
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What your advisor did is really uncommon, and I’m not even sure whether it’s appropriate. I never had to give keynotes, but in grant review presentations I wouldn’t dream of dragging my students to present just to highlight the obvious fact that they’re lead authors. In keynotes people want to hear the speaker; other uncalled speakers is bad form. If I organize an event and someone pulls this off without telling me I’d be pissed.
– Spark
12 hours ago
What your advisor did is really uncommon, and I’m not even sure whether it’s appropriate. I never had to give keynotes, but in grant review presentations I wouldn’t dream of dragging my students to present just to highlight the obvious fact that they’re lead authors. In keynotes people want to hear the speaker; other uncalled speakers is bad form. If I organize an event and someone pulls this off without telling me I’d be pissed.
– Spark
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Just because you scrupulously attribute other people's work to them when presenting it, doesn't sound like OP's advisor will do that... And it likely isn't about personal relationships, there simply are many (academic) cultures in the world where plagiarism, misattribution and theft are everyday behavior (depends on country), academics think they're entitled to.
– smci
4 hours ago
Just because you scrupulously attribute other people's work to them when presenting it, doesn't sound like OP's advisor will do that... And it likely isn't about personal relationships, there simply are many (academic) cultures in the world where plagiarism, misattribution and theft are everyday behavior (depends on country), academics think they're entitled to.
– smci
4 hours ago
@smci but that’d be really weird if she didn’t. I’m just not seeing how that would benefit the advisor. Your students doing well probably reflects better on a professor than independent work (at least in my university). I feel like there’s a misunderstanding or a trust issue here, rather than truly unethical behavior.
– Spark
3 hours ago
@smci but that’d be really weird if she didn’t. I’m just not seeing how that would benefit the advisor. Your students doing well probably reflects better on a professor than independent work (at least in my university). I feel like there’s a misunderstanding or a trust issue here, rather than truly unethical behavior.
– Spark
3 hours ago
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It's pretty common in my experience for advisors to present their students' work, with acknowledgement of the students' contributions. They'll often combine slides from several students' presentations into one talk for a conference, but they can also present just one student's work. In that case they usually say something like "The work I am going to talk about today was all/mostly done by my student, Whoever McLearny", at the start of the presentation.
Prepare a version of the slides specifically for your advisor to present, with her as the presenter, and with whatever acknowledgement of your authorship you feel is appropriate. This could be as simple as the first slide having you as the first author and your advisor as the last author, with your advisor's name somehow highlighted to indicate that she is the speaker. Or it could be having your name and picture featured prominently on an acknowledgements slide at the end of the presentation, along with any other group members who contributed. Or it could be your name in the corner of all the important figure slides, to show you did that work in particular, if the slides are going into a longer presentation.
Then you can send your advisor a nice pre-made presentation, and she won't have to do any extra work to cite you, because it will have already been done. It also communicates what form of acknowledgement you feel is appropriate.
On the other hand, if you think you and your advisor have very different ideas about how much or what form of credit is appropriate in the presentation for your contribution to the work, you need to have a talk with your advisor about it.
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It's pretty common in my experience for advisors to present their students' work, with acknowledgement of the students' contributions. They'll often combine slides from several students' presentations into one talk for a conference, but they can also present just one student's work. In that case they usually say something like "The work I am going to talk about today was all/mostly done by my student, Whoever McLearny", at the start of the presentation.
Prepare a version of the slides specifically for your advisor to present, with her as the presenter, and with whatever acknowledgement of your authorship you feel is appropriate. This could be as simple as the first slide having you as the first author and your advisor as the last author, with your advisor's name somehow highlighted to indicate that she is the speaker. Or it could be having your name and picture featured prominently on an acknowledgements slide at the end of the presentation, along with any other group members who contributed. Or it could be your name in the corner of all the important figure slides, to show you did that work in particular, if the slides are going into a longer presentation.
Then you can send your advisor a nice pre-made presentation, and she won't have to do any extra work to cite you, because it will have already been done. It also communicates what form of acknowledgement you feel is appropriate.
On the other hand, if you think you and your advisor have very different ideas about how much or what form of credit is appropriate in the presentation for your contribution to the work, you need to have a talk with your advisor about it.
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It's pretty common in my experience for advisors to present their students' work, with acknowledgement of the students' contributions. They'll often combine slides from several students' presentations into one talk for a conference, but they can also present just one student's work. In that case they usually say something like "The work I am going to talk about today was all/mostly done by my student, Whoever McLearny", at the start of the presentation.
Prepare a version of the slides specifically for your advisor to present, with her as the presenter, and with whatever acknowledgement of your authorship you feel is appropriate. This could be as simple as the first slide having you as the first author and your advisor as the last author, with your advisor's name somehow highlighted to indicate that she is the speaker. Or it could be having your name and picture featured prominently on an acknowledgements slide at the end of the presentation, along with any other group members who contributed. Or it could be your name in the corner of all the important figure slides, to show you did that work in particular, if the slides are going into a longer presentation.
Then you can send your advisor a nice pre-made presentation, and she won't have to do any extra work to cite you, because it will have already been done. It also communicates what form of acknowledgement you feel is appropriate.
On the other hand, if you think you and your advisor have very different ideas about how much or what form of credit is appropriate in the presentation for your contribution to the work, you need to have a talk with your advisor about it.
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It's pretty common in my experience for advisors to present their students' work, with acknowledgement of the students' contributions. They'll often combine slides from several students' presentations into one talk for a conference, but they can also present just one student's work. In that case they usually say something like "The work I am going to talk about today was all/mostly done by my student, Whoever McLearny", at the start of the presentation.
Prepare a version of the slides specifically for your advisor to present, with her as the presenter, and with whatever acknowledgement of your authorship you feel is appropriate. This could be as simple as the first slide having you as the first author and your advisor as the last author, with your advisor's name somehow highlighted to indicate that she is the speaker. Or it could be having your name and picture featured prominently on an acknowledgements slide at the end of the presentation, along with any other group members who contributed. Or it could be your name in the corner of all the important figure slides, to show you did that work in particular, if the slides are going into a longer presentation.
Then you can send your advisor a nice pre-made presentation, and she won't have to do any extra work to cite you, because it will have already been done. It also communicates what form of acknowledgement you feel is appropriate.
On the other hand, if you think you and your advisor have very different ideas about how much or what form of credit is appropriate in the presentation for your contribution to the work, you need to have a talk with your advisor about it.
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One benefit of her giving your presentation is that she will be actively promoting your work. For example, my adviser presented my theoretical work 3 times at 3 different conferences, and found an experimental collaborator to show that my theories were correct.
The more exposure your research gets, the higher the possibility for citations, which then leads to better career opportunities.
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One benefit of her giving your presentation is that she will be actively promoting your work. For example, my adviser presented my theoretical work 3 times at 3 different conferences, and found an experimental collaborator to show that my theories were correct.
The more exposure your research gets, the higher the possibility for citations, which then leads to better career opportunities.
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One benefit of her giving your presentation is that she will be actively promoting your work. For example, my adviser presented my theoretical work 3 times at 3 different conferences, and found an experimental collaborator to show that my theories were correct.
The more exposure your research gets, the higher the possibility for citations, which then leads to better career opportunities.
One benefit of her giving your presentation is that she will be actively promoting your work. For example, my adviser presented my theoretical work 3 times at 3 different conferences, and found an experimental collaborator to show that my theories were correct.
The more exposure your research gets, the higher the possibility for citations, which then leads to better career opportunities.
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If you have to give it to her, then give it as an executable not the slides...
That way she cannot remove your name or change the order of the slides... so it stays as you would present it yourself.
You should speak to someone above her to make the situation clear.
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Going over advisor’s head over slides? That’s like the nuclear option and it could very well be a simple misunderstanding. Taking about your students’ work in keynotes helps students, not hurts them.
– Spark
13 hours ago
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@Spark unless the advisor takes the slides, replaces OP's name with her own, and presents the work as her own, which seems to be what OP implies, though this is not quiet crystal clear.
– jcaron
11 hours ago
If she does that she does academic missconduct and the OP can prove it.... Going the nuclear way because he is affraid this may happen is still the wrong approach, he/she can simply wait and then produce proof when going over her head.
– Nick S
4 hours ago
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If you have to give it to her, then give it as an executable not the slides...
That way she cannot remove your name or change the order of the slides... so it stays as you would present it yourself.
You should speak to someone above her to make the situation clear.
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Going over advisor’s head over slides? That’s like the nuclear option and it could very well be a simple misunderstanding. Taking about your students’ work in keynotes helps students, not hurts them.
– Spark
13 hours ago
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@Spark unless the advisor takes the slides, replaces OP's name with her own, and presents the work as her own, which seems to be what OP implies, though this is not quiet crystal clear.
– jcaron
11 hours ago
If she does that she does academic missconduct and the OP can prove it.... Going the nuclear way because he is affraid this may happen is still the wrong approach, he/she can simply wait and then produce proof when going over her head.
– Nick S
4 hours ago
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If you have to give it to her, then give it as an executable not the slides...
That way she cannot remove your name or change the order of the slides... so it stays as you would present it yourself.
You should speak to someone above her to make the situation clear.
If you have to give it to her, then give it as an executable not the slides...
That way she cannot remove your name or change the order of the slides... so it stays as you would present it yourself.
You should speak to someone above her to make the situation clear.
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Going over advisor’s head over slides? That’s like the nuclear option and it could very well be a simple misunderstanding. Taking about your students’ work in keynotes helps students, not hurts them.
– Spark
13 hours ago
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@Spark unless the advisor takes the slides, replaces OP's name with her own, and presents the work as her own, which seems to be what OP implies, though this is not quiet crystal clear.
– jcaron
11 hours ago
If she does that she does academic missconduct and the OP can prove it.... Going the nuclear way because he is affraid this may happen is still the wrong approach, he/she can simply wait and then produce proof when going over her head.
– Nick S
4 hours ago
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Going over advisor’s head over slides? That’s like the nuclear option and it could very well be a simple misunderstanding. Taking about your students’ work in keynotes helps students, not hurts them.
– Spark
13 hours ago
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@Spark unless the advisor takes the slides, replaces OP's name with her own, and presents the work as her own, which seems to be what OP implies, though this is not quiet crystal clear.
– jcaron
11 hours ago
If she does that she does academic missconduct and the OP can prove it.... Going the nuclear way because he is affraid this may happen is still the wrong approach, he/she can simply wait and then produce proof when going over her head.
– Nick S
4 hours ago
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Going over advisor’s head over slides? That’s like the nuclear option and it could very well be a simple misunderstanding. Taking about your students’ work in keynotes helps students, not hurts them.
– Spark
13 hours ago
Going over advisor’s head over slides? That’s like the nuclear option and it could very well be a simple misunderstanding. Taking about your students’ work in keynotes helps students, not hurts them.
– Spark
13 hours ago
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@Spark unless the advisor takes the slides, replaces OP's name with her own, and presents the work as her own, which seems to be what OP implies, though this is not quiet crystal clear.
– jcaron
11 hours ago
@Spark unless the advisor takes the slides, replaces OP's name with her own, and presents the work as her own, which seems to be what OP implies, though this is not quiet crystal clear.
– jcaron
11 hours ago
If she does that she does academic missconduct and the OP can prove it.... Going the nuclear way because he is affraid this may happen is still the wrong approach, he/she can simply wait and then produce proof when going over her head.
– Nick S
4 hours ago
If she does that she does academic missconduct and the OP can prove it.... Going the nuclear way because he is affraid this may happen is still the wrong approach, he/she can simply wait and then produce proof when going over her head.
– Nick S
4 hours ago
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More contextul information is needed before we can answer this. For example, are you funded by a grant held by your supervisor which gives co-author status to all work produced by grant staff (such as an ERC grant)? Is there a clear reason why you cannot go to the international conference and present the material yourself?
– GrotesqueSI
19 hours ago
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Why did you stay with her after your senior? It's one thing to fall into the trap of a supervisor who does not give credit, it is quite another to repeat this. At this stage, probably you are better off just giving her what she wants and get rid of your project as soon as you can.
– Captain Emacs
18 hours ago
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Sometimes there are unpleasant or wrong situations for which an answer is almost impossible. Consider that if she doesn't even remove your name the situation will be less dramatic.
– Alchimista
17 hours ago
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@GrotesqueSI: Yes, my thesis was funded by the grant from government which is purposed by my advisor. She is my co-author. I could share her my figures, results and everything. I'm OK if she share my result in the conference with the presentation created by her (not her student). But asking me to teach her how to present my own presentation in the conference is too much. As far as I know, she is invited speaker. Thank you for your comment. I might consider ask her directly that can I go to the conference and present it by myself.
– Lucus
17 hours ago
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How long was your talk? How long is her talk? If you had a fifteen minute talk she's going to work into her 90 minute keynote, that's a bit different
– Azor Ahai
10 hours ago