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Which version of ChaCha is more secure?


Where are the ChaCha20 test vectors/examples?chacha20-poly1305 padding and length encodingCollision or second preimage for the ChaCha core?Symmetric encryption algorithms with large IVs and authentication?Nonce reuse resistanceWhere is HChaCha20 formally defined?Is XChaCha20-Poly1305 nonce misuse-resistant?Is streaming API to ChaCha20-Poly1305 possible or recommended against?Reason for 3 rounds ChaCha in ChaCha20Poly1305@opensshLargest message size for XChaCha20-Poly1305






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Which version of ChaCha is more secure?



XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF

ChaCha20-IETF-Poly1305

ChaCha20-Poly1305


I am looking for 256bit strength for large datasets.



I am having trouble disambiguating the delta between these ciphers available in libSodium.










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    Which version of ChaCha is more secure?



    XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF

    ChaCha20-IETF-Poly1305

    ChaCha20-Poly1305


    I am looking for 256bit strength for large datasets.



    I am having trouble disambiguating the delta between these ciphers available in libSodium.










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      Which version of ChaCha is more secure?



      XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF

      ChaCha20-IETF-Poly1305

      ChaCha20-Poly1305


      I am looking for 256bit strength for large datasets.



      I am having trouble disambiguating the delta between these ciphers available in libSodium.










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      Which version of ChaCha is more secure?



      XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF

      ChaCha20-IETF-Poly1305

      ChaCha20-Poly1305


      I am looking for 256bit strength for large datasets.



      I am having trouble disambiguating the delta between these ciphers available in libSodium.







      chacha libsodium






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          The only difference between these is the nonce size (and, consequently, the internal counter size). The core function is exactly the same. They all offer the exact same security level if they are used as expected.



          The trade-offs are described in the AEAD section of the documentation.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is the one that has the largest nonce size. This significantly reduces the risk of reuse, since it can be randomly chosen without any practical risk of collision. This can also be leveraged to build nonce misuse-resistant schemes.



          Unless you specifically need compatibility with a different implementation that doesn't support the XChaCha20 version, this is the one you want to use in virtually all cases.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is very likely to become the function used by the high-level API in a future libsodium release. Which means that other variants will not be available any longer in minimal builds.



          Since your use case appears to be encrypting large messages, the higher-level secretstream API is a better fit. It uses XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF internally.






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            we consider the IV reuse as a security risk. If they have different IV lengths how will they have the same security levels?
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          The only difference between these is the nonce size (and, consequently, the internal counter size). The core function is exactly the same. They all offer the exact same security level if they are used as expected.



          The trade-offs are described in the AEAD section of the documentation.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is the one that has the largest nonce size. This significantly reduces the risk of reuse, since it can be randomly chosen without any practical risk of collision. This can also be leveraged to build nonce misuse-resistant schemes.



          Unless you specifically need compatibility with a different implementation that doesn't support the XChaCha20 version, this is the one you want to use in virtually all cases.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is very likely to become the function used by the high-level API in a future libsodium release. Which means that other variants will not be available any longer in minimal builds.



          Since your use case appears to be encrypting large messages, the higher-level secretstream API is a better fit. It uses XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF internally.






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            we consider the IV reuse as a security risk. If they have different IV lengths how will they have the same security levels?
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          $begingroup$

          The only difference between these is the nonce size (and, consequently, the internal counter size). The core function is exactly the same. They all offer the exact same security level if they are used as expected.



          The trade-offs are described in the AEAD section of the documentation.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is the one that has the largest nonce size. This significantly reduces the risk of reuse, since it can be randomly chosen without any practical risk of collision. This can also be leveraged to build nonce misuse-resistant schemes.



          Unless you specifically need compatibility with a different implementation that doesn't support the XChaCha20 version, this is the one you want to use in virtually all cases.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is very likely to become the function used by the high-level API in a future libsodium release. Which means that other variants will not be available any longer in minimal builds.



          Since your use case appears to be encrypting large messages, the higher-level secretstream API is a better fit. It uses XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF internally.






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            Thanks @Frank Denis
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            we consider the IV reuse as a security risk. If they have different IV lengths how will they have the same security levels?
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          $begingroup$

          The only difference between these is the nonce size (and, consequently, the internal counter size). The core function is exactly the same. They all offer the exact same security level if they are used as expected.



          The trade-offs are described in the AEAD section of the documentation.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is the one that has the largest nonce size. This significantly reduces the risk of reuse, since it can be randomly chosen without any practical risk of collision. This can also be leveraged to build nonce misuse-resistant schemes.



          Unless you specifically need compatibility with a different implementation that doesn't support the XChaCha20 version, this is the one you want to use in virtually all cases.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is very likely to become the function used by the high-level API in a future libsodium release. Which means that other variants will not be available any longer in minimal builds.



          Since your use case appears to be encrypting large messages, the higher-level secretstream API is a better fit. It uses XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF internally.






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          The only difference between these is the nonce size (and, consequently, the internal counter size). The core function is exactly the same. They all offer the exact same security level if they are used as expected.



          The trade-offs are described in the AEAD section of the documentation.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is the one that has the largest nonce size. This significantly reduces the risk of reuse, since it can be randomly chosen without any practical risk of collision. This can also be leveraged to build nonce misuse-resistant schemes.



          Unless you specifically need compatibility with a different implementation that doesn't support the XChaCha20 version, this is the one you want to use in virtually all cases.



          XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF is very likely to become the function used by the high-level API in a future libsodium release. Which means that other variants will not be available any longer in minimal builds.



          Since your use case appears to be encrypting large messages, the higher-level secretstream API is a better fit. It uses XChaCha20-Poly1305-IETF internally.







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            Thanks @Frank Denis
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            we consider the IV reuse as a security risk. If they have different IV lengths how will they have the same security levels?
            $endgroup$
            – kelalaka
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          we consider the IV reuse as a security risk. If they have different IV lengths how will they have the same security levels?
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          – kelalaka
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