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What should I do if actually I found a serious flaw in someone's PhD thesis and an article derived from that PhD thesis?


Is it problematic to use a Wikipedia article I wrote in my PhD thesis?I found out my master's thesis topic has already been done (exactly), and my advisor didn't mention this when suggesting it to me - how to proceed?Should I warn my professor about some errors that I've found in his paper?What should I do if I discover a typo in the title of my MS thesis after submissionHow to deal with errors in well established papersExplaining inconsistencies in literature in thesis and/or supporting information of journal articleFound a major flaw in paper from home university – to which I would like to returnWhat should I do when a paper is published similar to my PhD thesis without citation?






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Recently, I came across a PhD thesis and an article derived from that PhD thesis and found a serious flaw in them that actually makes their conclusions invalid. In the first place, I was unsure if I'm right or not, so I contacted the guy that wrote the PhD thesis and subsequent article and described my concerns and I showed my calculations to him and asked if he thinks in fact there is a major problem in his PhD thesis and that article, which is derived from it. He responded back that embarrassingly, in fact I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it. I didn't want to force him to do something but I'm just thinking maybe there might be a possibility to publish an erratum for at least that article. It's a major flaw and unfortunately it just invalidates the major conclusions of paper and PhD thesis. Surprisingly, the article is cited for 15 times and nobody found that obvious problem. My question: What's the best way to deal with these kind of situations that even author himself/herself admits that in fact there is a major flaw in his/her thesis or article? I appreciate any suggestion or recommendation.










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  • This could either be a separate article by you, or a Comment on the article (typically fairly short, submitted to the same journal as the original article, with an opportunity for the original author(s) to reply).

    – Jon Custer
    8 hours ago











  • @JonCuster Sounds like an answer...

    – ff524
    8 hours ago











  • "I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it." Why not??

    – Pete L. Clark
    6 hours ago











  • @PeteL.Clark That's his answer not mine that he can't do anything about it, but of course, I'm not convinced with this answer.

    – Alone Programmer
    6 hours ago











  • Right, I agree with you. I am struggling to think of a situation in which it is not the case that he not only CAN do something about it but is ethically obligated to. What I was asking was: what reasons did he give?

    – Pete L. Clark
    6 hours ago

















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Recently, I came across a PhD thesis and an article derived from that PhD thesis and found a serious flaw in them that actually makes their conclusions invalid. In the first place, I was unsure if I'm right or not, so I contacted the guy that wrote the PhD thesis and subsequent article and described my concerns and I showed my calculations to him and asked if he thinks in fact there is a major problem in his PhD thesis and that article, which is derived from it. He responded back that embarrassingly, in fact I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it. I didn't want to force him to do something but I'm just thinking maybe there might be a possibility to publish an erratum for at least that article. It's a major flaw and unfortunately it just invalidates the major conclusions of paper and PhD thesis. Surprisingly, the article is cited for 15 times and nobody found that obvious problem. My question: What's the best way to deal with these kind of situations that even author himself/herself admits that in fact there is a major flaw in his/her thesis or article? I appreciate any suggestion or recommendation.










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  • This could either be a separate article by you, or a Comment on the article (typically fairly short, submitted to the same journal as the original article, with an opportunity for the original author(s) to reply).

    – Jon Custer
    8 hours ago











  • @JonCuster Sounds like an answer...

    – ff524
    8 hours ago











  • "I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it." Why not??

    – Pete L. Clark
    6 hours ago











  • @PeteL.Clark That's his answer not mine that he can't do anything about it, but of course, I'm not convinced with this answer.

    – Alone Programmer
    6 hours ago











  • Right, I agree with you. I am struggling to think of a situation in which it is not the case that he not only CAN do something about it but is ethically obligated to. What I was asking was: what reasons did he give?

    – Pete L. Clark
    6 hours ago













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Recently, I came across a PhD thesis and an article derived from that PhD thesis and found a serious flaw in them that actually makes their conclusions invalid. In the first place, I was unsure if I'm right or not, so I contacted the guy that wrote the PhD thesis and subsequent article and described my concerns and I showed my calculations to him and asked if he thinks in fact there is a major problem in his PhD thesis and that article, which is derived from it. He responded back that embarrassingly, in fact I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it. I didn't want to force him to do something but I'm just thinking maybe there might be a possibility to publish an erratum for at least that article. It's a major flaw and unfortunately it just invalidates the major conclusions of paper and PhD thesis. Surprisingly, the article is cited for 15 times and nobody found that obvious problem. My question: What's the best way to deal with these kind of situations that even author himself/herself admits that in fact there is a major flaw in his/her thesis or article? I appreciate any suggestion or recommendation.










share|improve this question
















Recently, I came across a PhD thesis and an article derived from that PhD thesis and found a serious flaw in them that actually makes their conclusions invalid. In the first place, I was unsure if I'm right or not, so I contacted the guy that wrote the PhD thesis and subsequent article and described my concerns and I showed my calculations to him and asked if he thinks in fact there is a major problem in his PhD thesis and that article, which is derived from it. He responded back that embarrassingly, in fact I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it. I didn't want to force him to do something but I'm just thinking maybe there might be a possibility to publish an erratum for at least that article. It's a major flaw and unfortunately it just invalidates the major conclusions of paper and PhD thesis. Surprisingly, the article is cited for 15 times and nobody found that obvious problem. My question: What's the best way to deal with these kind of situations that even author himself/herself admits that in fact there is a major flaw in his/her thesis or article? I appreciate any suggestion or recommendation.







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  • This could either be a separate article by you, or a Comment on the article (typically fairly short, submitted to the same journal as the original article, with an opportunity for the original author(s) to reply).

    – Jon Custer
    8 hours ago











  • @JonCuster Sounds like an answer...

    – ff524
    8 hours ago











  • "I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it." Why not??

    – Pete L. Clark
    6 hours ago











  • @PeteL.Clark That's his answer not mine that he can't do anything about it, but of course, I'm not convinced with this answer.

    – Alone Programmer
    6 hours ago











  • Right, I agree with you. I am struggling to think of a situation in which it is not the case that he not only CAN do something about it but is ethically obligated to. What I was asking was: what reasons did he give?

    – Pete L. Clark
    6 hours ago

















  • This could either be a separate article by you, or a Comment on the article (typically fairly short, submitted to the same journal as the original article, with an opportunity for the original author(s) to reply).

    – Jon Custer
    8 hours ago











  • @JonCuster Sounds like an answer...

    – ff524
    8 hours ago











  • "I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it." Why not??

    – Pete L. Clark
    6 hours ago











  • @PeteL.Clark That's his answer not mine that he can't do anything about it, but of course, I'm not convinced with this answer.

    – Alone Programmer
    6 hours ago











  • Right, I agree with you. I am struggling to think of a situation in which it is not the case that he not only CAN do something about it but is ethically obligated to. What I was asking was: what reasons did he give?

    – Pete L. Clark
    6 hours ago
















This could either be a separate article by you, or a Comment on the article (typically fairly short, submitted to the same journal as the original article, with an opportunity for the original author(s) to reply).

– Jon Custer
8 hours ago





This could either be a separate article by you, or a Comment on the article (typically fairly short, submitted to the same journal as the original article, with an opportunity for the original author(s) to reply).

– Jon Custer
8 hours ago













@JonCuster Sounds like an answer...

– ff524
8 hours ago





@JonCuster Sounds like an answer...

– ff524
8 hours ago













"I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it." Why not??

– Pete L. Clark
6 hours ago





"I'm right and there is a problem but he can't do anything about it." Why not??

– Pete L. Clark
6 hours ago













@PeteL.Clark That's his answer not mine that he can't do anything about it, but of course, I'm not convinced with this answer.

– Alone Programmer
6 hours ago





@PeteL.Clark That's his answer not mine that he can't do anything about it, but of course, I'm not convinced with this answer.

– Alone Programmer
6 hours ago













Right, I agree with you. I am struggling to think of a situation in which it is not the case that he not only CAN do something about it but is ethically obligated to. What I was asking was: what reasons did he give?

– Pete L. Clark
6 hours ago





Right, I agree with you. I am struggling to think of a situation in which it is not the case that he not only CAN do something about it but is ethically obligated to. What I was asking was: what reasons did he give?

– Pete L. Clark
6 hours ago










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One possibility is for you to write a paper on your reanalysis. Often this would need to be something more than pointing out the flaw alone, but that may be discipline-dependent. If the flaw you have detected is a key part in your own analysis of your work, including your updated analysis in a larger article (while citing their paper) is a smooth way to point out how you had to change the method.



The second possibility is that many journals (at least in my area) allow for Comments on articles they have published. These are for just this purpose - to point out something 'wrong' about a paper that has been published. If the editors decide to proceed with it, the original authors are usually given an opportunity to craft a Reply piece to agree, disagree, alter, whatnot. Then they are published back-to-back in the journal.






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  • Unfortunately, there is no option for putting comment about articles that are published in that journal. My minor concern about your first option is that, I don't want my short letter, to show the flaw based on reanalysis, will be considered an offence to the guy who wrote the paper and PhD thesis. Despite the fact that indeed there is a major flaw in this article, he and his co-authors are big draws in my research field and I don't want to struggle with them. The main author is a nice guy, and he quickly took the responsibility for the problem, but I don't know about his other co-authors.

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago











  • Should I prepare my letter and send to him and see if he actually agrees then send it to the journal? I mean I don't want to create an awkward situation cause I'm just a graduate student.

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago











  • @AloneProgrammer - is the (faulty) analysis in the paper something central to your work? If so, in one of your papers you could show your analysis, and state it is different from the other paper. Leave it up to readers to figure out that the other is in error (at least for your usage of it).

    – Jon Custer
    7 hours ago











  • Yes, in fact it is related to major part of my research. This idea sounds great I believe. Thanks!

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago


















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Do not overthink it.



I have had similar experience and authors were reluctant at first (mostly because they have moved to another problem).



It is very dangerous to leave a flaw in the literature. Especially a critical flaw where others may build on it. This will lead to more chaos. I am aware some (well-known) people do not care about their old results being incorrect. But this is not what Academia is about. You should appreciate the peer review and rigorous findings more than anything else. You already have contacted the author, offer him a collaboration (if seems right) on correcting the whole thing in the context of your work.



You usually have spotted the error because your work is related. On that particular connection re-analyze the claim and correct it. Include in your new paper the claim, prove why it is incorrect and prove the new correct result. This actually can be seen as a new contribution to your paper/thesis.



For me, I was very satisfied with the outcome; the first author of the other paper did mentor me for a while after we met at a conference.






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    One possibility is for you to write a paper on your reanalysis. Often this would need to be something more than pointing out the flaw alone, but that may be discipline-dependent. If the flaw you have detected is a key part in your own analysis of your work, including your updated analysis in a larger article (while citing their paper) is a smooth way to point out how you had to change the method.



    The second possibility is that many journals (at least in my area) allow for Comments on articles they have published. These are for just this purpose - to point out something 'wrong' about a paper that has been published. If the editors decide to proceed with it, the original authors are usually given an opportunity to craft a Reply piece to agree, disagree, alter, whatnot. Then they are published back-to-back in the journal.






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    • Unfortunately, there is no option for putting comment about articles that are published in that journal. My minor concern about your first option is that, I don't want my short letter, to show the flaw based on reanalysis, will be considered an offence to the guy who wrote the paper and PhD thesis. Despite the fact that indeed there is a major flaw in this article, he and his co-authors are big draws in my research field and I don't want to struggle with them. The main author is a nice guy, and he quickly took the responsibility for the problem, but I don't know about his other co-authors.

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago











    • Should I prepare my letter and send to him and see if he actually agrees then send it to the journal? I mean I don't want to create an awkward situation cause I'm just a graduate student.

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago











    • @AloneProgrammer - is the (faulty) analysis in the paper something central to your work? If so, in one of your papers you could show your analysis, and state it is different from the other paper. Leave it up to readers to figure out that the other is in error (at least for your usage of it).

      – Jon Custer
      7 hours ago











    • Yes, in fact it is related to major part of my research. This idea sounds great I believe. Thanks!

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago















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    One possibility is for you to write a paper on your reanalysis. Often this would need to be something more than pointing out the flaw alone, but that may be discipline-dependent. If the flaw you have detected is a key part in your own analysis of your work, including your updated analysis in a larger article (while citing their paper) is a smooth way to point out how you had to change the method.



    The second possibility is that many journals (at least in my area) allow for Comments on articles they have published. These are for just this purpose - to point out something 'wrong' about a paper that has been published. If the editors decide to proceed with it, the original authors are usually given an opportunity to craft a Reply piece to agree, disagree, alter, whatnot. Then they are published back-to-back in the journal.






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    • Unfortunately, there is no option for putting comment about articles that are published in that journal. My minor concern about your first option is that, I don't want my short letter, to show the flaw based on reanalysis, will be considered an offence to the guy who wrote the paper and PhD thesis. Despite the fact that indeed there is a major flaw in this article, he and his co-authors are big draws in my research field and I don't want to struggle with them. The main author is a nice guy, and he quickly took the responsibility for the problem, but I don't know about his other co-authors.

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago











    • Should I prepare my letter and send to him and see if he actually agrees then send it to the journal? I mean I don't want to create an awkward situation cause I'm just a graduate student.

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago











    • @AloneProgrammer - is the (faulty) analysis in the paper something central to your work? If so, in one of your papers you could show your analysis, and state it is different from the other paper. Leave it up to readers to figure out that the other is in error (at least for your usage of it).

      – Jon Custer
      7 hours ago











    • Yes, in fact it is related to major part of my research. This idea sounds great I believe. Thanks!

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago













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    One possibility is for you to write a paper on your reanalysis. Often this would need to be something more than pointing out the flaw alone, but that may be discipline-dependent. If the flaw you have detected is a key part in your own analysis of your work, including your updated analysis in a larger article (while citing their paper) is a smooth way to point out how you had to change the method.



    The second possibility is that many journals (at least in my area) allow for Comments on articles they have published. These are for just this purpose - to point out something 'wrong' about a paper that has been published. If the editors decide to proceed with it, the original authors are usually given an opportunity to craft a Reply piece to agree, disagree, alter, whatnot. Then they are published back-to-back in the journal.






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    One possibility is for you to write a paper on your reanalysis. Often this would need to be something more than pointing out the flaw alone, but that may be discipline-dependent. If the flaw you have detected is a key part in your own analysis of your work, including your updated analysis in a larger article (while citing their paper) is a smooth way to point out how you had to change the method.



    The second possibility is that many journals (at least in my area) allow for Comments on articles they have published. These are for just this purpose - to point out something 'wrong' about a paper that has been published. If the editors decide to proceed with it, the original authors are usually given an opportunity to craft a Reply piece to agree, disagree, alter, whatnot. Then they are published back-to-back in the journal.







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    4,7073 gold badges16 silver badges28 bronze badges















    • Unfortunately, there is no option for putting comment about articles that are published in that journal. My minor concern about your first option is that, I don't want my short letter, to show the flaw based on reanalysis, will be considered an offence to the guy who wrote the paper and PhD thesis. Despite the fact that indeed there is a major flaw in this article, he and his co-authors are big draws in my research field and I don't want to struggle with them. The main author is a nice guy, and he quickly took the responsibility for the problem, but I don't know about his other co-authors.

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago











    • Should I prepare my letter and send to him and see if he actually agrees then send it to the journal? I mean I don't want to create an awkward situation cause I'm just a graduate student.

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago











    • @AloneProgrammer - is the (faulty) analysis in the paper something central to your work? If so, in one of your papers you could show your analysis, and state it is different from the other paper. Leave it up to readers to figure out that the other is in error (at least for your usage of it).

      – Jon Custer
      7 hours ago











    • Yes, in fact it is related to major part of my research. This idea sounds great I believe. Thanks!

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago

















    • Unfortunately, there is no option for putting comment about articles that are published in that journal. My minor concern about your first option is that, I don't want my short letter, to show the flaw based on reanalysis, will be considered an offence to the guy who wrote the paper and PhD thesis. Despite the fact that indeed there is a major flaw in this article, he and his co-authors are big draws in my research field and I don't want to struggle with them. The main author is a nice guy, and he quickly took the responsibility for the problem, but I don't know about his other co-authors.

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago











    • Should I prepare my letter and send to him and see if he actually agrees then send it to the journal? I mean I don't want to create an awkward situation cause I'm just a graduate student.

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago











    • @AloneProgrammer - is the (faulty) analysis in the paper something central to your work? If so, in one of your papers you could show your analysis, and state it is different from the other paper. Leave it up to readers to figure out that the other is in error (at least for your usage of it).

      – Jon Custer
      7 hours ago











    • Yes, in fact it is related to major part of my research. This idea sounds great I believe. Thanks!

      – Alone Programmer
      7 hours ago
















    Unfortunately, there is no option for putting comment about articles that are published in that journal. My minor concern about your first option is that, I don't want my short letter, to show the flaw based on reanalysis, will be considered an offence to the guy who wrote the paper and PhD thesis. Despite the fact that indeed there is a major flaw in this article, he and his co-authors are big draws in my research field and I don't want to struggle with them. The main author is a nice guy, and he quickly took the responsibility for the problem, but I don't know about his other co-authors.

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago





    Unfortunately, there is no option for putting comment about articles that are published in that journal. My minor concern about your first option is that, I don't want my short letter, to show the flaw based on reanalysis, will be considered an offence to the guy who wrote the paper and PhD thesis. Despite the fact that indeed there is a major flaw in this article, he and his co-authors are big draws in my research field and I don't want to struggle with them. The main author is a nice guy, and he quickly took the responsibility for the problem, but I don't know about his other co-authors.

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago













    Should I prepare my letter and send to him and see if he actually agrees then send it to the journal? I mean I don't want to create an awkward situation cause I'm just a graduate student.

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago





    Should I prepare my letter and send to him and see if he actually agrees then send it to the journal? I mean I don't want to create an awkward situation cause I'm just a graduate student.

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago













    @AloneProgrammer - is the (faulty) analysis in the paper something central to your work? If so, in one of your papers you could show your analysis, and state it is different from the other paper. Leave it up to readers to figure out that the other is in error (at least for your usage of it).

    – Jon Custer
    7 hours ago





    @AloneProgrammer - is the (faulty) analysis in the paper something central to your work? If so, in one of your papers you could show your analysis, and state it is different from the other paper. Leave it up to readers to figure out that the other is in error (at least for your usage of it).

    – Jon Custer
    7 hours ago













    Yes, in fact it is related to major part of my research. This idea sounds great I believe. Thanks!

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago





    Yes, in fact it is related to major part of my research. This idea sounds great I believe. Thanks!

    – Alone Programmer
    7 hours ago













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    Do not overthink it.



    I have had similar experience and authors were reluctant at first (mostly because they have moved to another problem).



    It is very dangerous to leave a flaw in the literature. Especially a critical flaw where others may build on it. This will lead to more chaos. I am aware some (well-known) people do not care about their old results being incorrect. But this is not what Academia is about. You should appreciate the peer review and rigorous findings more than anything else. You already have contacted the author, offer him a collaboration (if seems right) on correcting the whole thing in the context of your work.



    You usually have spotted the error because your work is related. On that particular connection re-analyze the claim and correct it. Include in your new paper the claim, prove why it is incorrect and prove the new correct result. This actually can be seen as a new contribution to your paper/thesis.



    For me, I was very satisfied with the outcome; the first author of the other paper did mentor me for a while after we met at a conference.






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      5














      Do not overthink it.



      I have had similar experience and authors were reluctant at first (mostly because they have moved to another problem).



      It is very dangerous to leave a flaw in the literature. Especially a critical flaw where others may build on it. This will lead to more chaos. I am aware some (well-known) people do not care about their old results being incorrect. But this is not what Academia is about. You should appreciate the peer review and rigorous findings more than anything else. You already have contacted the author, offer him a collaboration (if seems right) on correcting the whole thing in the context of your work.



      You usually have spotted the error because your work is related. On that particular connection re-analyze the claim and correct it. Include in your new paper the claim, prove why it is incorrect and prove the new correct result. This actually can be seen as a new contribution to your paper/thesis.



      For me, I was very satisfied with the outcome; the first author of the other paper did mentor me for a while after we met at a conference.






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        I have had similar experience and authors were reluctant at first (mostly because they have moved to another problem).



        It is very dangerous to leave a flaw in the literature. Especially a critical flaw where others may build on it. This will lead to more chaos. I am aware some (well-known) people do not care about their old results being incorrect. But this is not what Academia is about. You should appreciate the peer review and rigorous findings more than anything else. You already have contacted the author, offer him a collaboration (if seems right) on correcting the whole thing in the context of your work.



        You usually have spotted the error because your work is related. On that particular connection re-analyze the claim and correct it. Include in your new paper the claim, prove why it is incorrect and prove the new correct result. This actually can be seen as a new contribution to your paper/thesis.



        For me, I was very satisfied with the outcome; the first author of the other paper did mentor me for a while after we met at a conference.






        share|improve this answer















        Do not overthink it.



        I have had similar experience and authors were reluctant at first (mostly because they have moved to another problem).



        It is very dangerous to leave a flaw in the literature. Especially a critical flaw where others may build on it. This will lead to more chaos. I am aware some (well-known) people do not care about their old results being incorrect. But this is not what Academia is about. You should appreciate the peer review and rigorous findings more than anything else. You already have contacted the author, offer him a collaboration (if seems right) on correcting the whole thing in the context of your work.



        You usually have spotted the error because your work is related. On that particular connection re-analyze the claim and correct it. Include in your new paper the claim, prove why it is incorrect and prove the new correct result. This actually can be seen as a new contribution to your paper/thesis.



        For me, I was very satisfied with the outcome; the first author of the other paper did mentor me for a while after we met at a conference.







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