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In Marvel Phase 4 there is going to be the new movie Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. In Iron Man 3 it was shown that the Ten Rings is a organization whose leader was the Mandarin.

So what is the relation between Shang-Chi and the Mandarin in the original Marvel comics?

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  I feel like this is going to fall foul of the future works policy as it is clearly going to be explained in the film. However, there is some information out there already. Can you clarify exactly what you want to know? I.e. what do you mean by relation?
  
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  If you’re referring to the MCU, it definitely falls under FW policy; because we have no idea how Shang-Chi will be portrayed in the MCU.
  
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  Also, I’m not sure if it’s official but I read somewhere that the Mandarin in IM3 wasn’t he real one. If this is true, then we have zero info about the Mandarin as well..
  
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  We know a bit about the Mandarin but nothing about Shang-Chi. Unless you want to focus this solely on the Mandarin rather than Shang-Chi this seems FWP to me.
  
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  As far as wen know, even in the comics, they aren't related. There's no reference to the ten rings or Mandarin on Shang-chi's official history page on Marvel. marvel.com/characters/shang-chi/in-comics
  
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In Marvel Phase 4 there is going to be the new movie Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. In Iron Man 3 it was shown that the Ten Rings is a organization whose leader was the Mandarin.

So what is the relation between Shang-Chi and the Mandarin in the original Marvel comics?

marvel shang-chi-legend-of-the-ten-rings

share|improve this question

edited 7 hours ago

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  I feel like this is going to fall foul of the future works policy as it is clearly going to be explained in the film. However, there is some information out there already. Can you clarify exactly what you want to know? I.e. what do you mean by relation?
  
  – TheLethalCarrot
  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  If you’re referring to the MCU, it definitely falls under FW policy; because we have no idea how Shang-Chi will be portrayed in the MCU.
  
  – Shreedhar
  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Also, I’m not sure if it’s official but I read somewhere that the Mandarin in IM3 wasn’t he real one. If this is true, then we have zero info about the Mandarin as well..
  
  – Shreedhar
  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  We know a bit about the Mandarin but nothing about Shang-Chi. Unless you want to focus this solely on the Mandarin rather than Shang-Chi this seems FWP to me.
  
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  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  As far as wen know, even in the comics, they aren't related. There's no reference to the ten rings or Mandarin on Shang-chi's official history page on Marvel. marvel.com/characters/shang-chi/in-comics
  
  – Shreedhar
  9 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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In Marvel Phase 4 there is going to be the new movie Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. In Iron Man 3 it was shown that the Ten Rings is a organization whose leader was the Mandarin.

So what is the relation between Shang-Chi and the Mandarin in the original Marvel comics?

marvel shang-chi-legend-of-the-ten-rings

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According to IGN:

While it might seem strange to pit Shang-Chi against a villain most
commonly associated with Iron Man, this choice backs up a popular
theory that the Mandarin will be depicted as Shang-Chi's father in the
MCU.
movie.

and

The problems here are two-fold. One, Marvel no longer has the rights
to the Fu Manchu character. Not only has this made reprinting the
early Master of Kung Fu comics difficult, it's prevented them from
referencing Shang-Chi's parentage in subsequent comics. Two, Fu Manchu
is now widely criticized as a racist caricature and an example of the
"Yellow Peril" storytelling trope. Even if Marvel could bring Fu
Manchu into the MCU, it's doubtful they'd actually want to use a
villain with such a problematic history.

So Shang-Chi and Mandarin are not related at all in the comics, but rather Mandarin will be replacing a character that Marvel cannot (and probably should not) use.

Please note that they are referring to the "real" Mandarin (revealed in the Marvel one-shot All Hail the King), rather than the "fake" played by Ben Kingsley.

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Um...they have the same powerset, which is to say the ability to make their bodies superhuman by channeling mystic chi into it. And they are both supremely skilled martial artists. Those are the only things they have in common as far as I know.

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According to IGN:

While it might seem strange to pit Shang-Chi against a villain most
commonly associated with Iron Man, this choice backs up a popular
theory that the Mandarin will be depicted as Shang-Chi's father in the
MCU.
movie.

and

The problems here are two-fold. One, Marvel no longer has the rights
to the Fu Manchu character. Not only has this made reprinting the
early Master of Kung Fu comics difficult, it's prevented them from
referencing Shang-Chi's parentage in subsequent comics. Two, Fu Manchu
is now widely criticized as a racist caricature and an example of the
"Yellow Peril" storytelling trope. Even if Marvel could bring Fu
Manchu into the MCU, it's doubtful they'd actually want to use a
villain with such a problematic history.

So Shang-Chi and Mandarin are not related at all in the comics, but rather Mandarin will be replacing a character that Marvel cannot (and probably should not) use.

Please note that they are referring to the "real" Mandarin (revealed in the Marvel one-shot All Hail the King), rather than the "fake" played by Ben Kingsley.

share|improve this answer

edited 8 hours ago

answered 9 hours ago

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9

According to IGN:

While it might seem strange to pit Shang-Chi against a villain most
commonly associated with Iron Man, this choice backs up a popular
theory that the Mandarin will be depicted as Shang-Chi's father in the
MCU.
movie.

and

The problems here are two-fold. One, Marvel no longer has the rights
to the Fu Manchu character. Not only has this made reprinting the
early Master of Kung Fu comics difficult, it's prevented them from
referencing Shang-Chi's parentage in subsequent comics. Two, Fu Manchu
is now widely criticized as a racist caricature and an example of the
"Yellow Peril" storytelling trope. Even if Marvel could bring Fu
Manchu into the MCU, it's doubtful they'd actually want to use a
villain with such a problematic history.

So Shang-Chi and Mandarin are not related at all in the comics, but rather Mandarin will be replacing a character that Marvel cannot (and probably should not) use.

Please note that they are referring to the "real" Mandarin (revealed in the Marvel one-shot All Hail the King), rather than the "fake" played by Ben Kingsley.

share|improve this answer

edited 8 hours ago

answered 9 hours ago

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According to IGN:

While it might seem strange to pit Shang-Chi against a villain most
commonly associated with Iron Man, this choice backs up a popular
theory that the Mandarin will be depicted as Shang-Chi's father in the
MCU.
movie.

and

The problems here are two-fold. One, Marvel no longer has the rights
to the Fu Manchu character. Not only has this made reprinting the
early Master of Kung Fu comics difficult, it's prevented them from
referencing Shang-Chi's parentage in subsequent comics. Two, Fu Manchu
is now widely criticized as a racist caricature and an example of the
"Yellow Peril" storytelling trope. Even if Marvel could bring Fu
Manchu into the MCU, it's doubtful they'd actually want to use a
villain with such a problematic history.

So Shang-Chi and Mandarin are not related at all in the comics, but rather Mandarin will be replacing a character that Marvel cannot (and probably should not) use.

Please note that they are referring to the "real" Mandarin (revealed in the Marvel one-shot All Hail the King), rather than the "fake" played by Ben Kingsley.

share|improve this answer

edited 8 hours ago

answered 9 hours ago

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Um...they have the same powerset, which is to say the ability to make their bodies superhuman by channeling mystic chi into it. And they are both supremely skilled martial artists. Those are the only things they have in common as far as I know.

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Um...they have the same powerset, which is to say the ability to make their bodies superhuman by channeling mystic chi into it. And they are both supremely skilled martial artists. Those are the only things they have in common as far as I know.

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Um...they have the same powerset, which is to say the ability to make their bodies superhuman by channeling mystic chi into it. And they are both supremely skilled martial artists. Those are the only things they have in common as far as I know.

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