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Rule of thumb to choose right mix of Rodinal developer?
Where can I get 4x5″, 5x7″, or 8x10″ color sheet film (or other hard-to-find exotic film) processed?If I want to get the effect of overexposure from pushed black and white film, do I add even more time in developing?Is it safe to use rodinal or some other developer in the bath tub?How did photographers get the exposure right back in the day with only full-stop increments?Has anyone tried developing Washi S film (B&W ISO50 ) with Ilfosol 3 developer (Ilford product)?Do crystals at the bottom of R09 one shot developer indicate that it's gone bad?How much developer/stop/fixer do I need with 120 film?Tri-X compared with HP5 plus, grainHow can you tell if your Kodak D76 developer cannot be used anymore?What's the common practice for reuse/discarding of Adox Rodinal developer solution?
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Massive Dev. Chart has around 7 kinds of combination
of Rodinal mixture for TriX400: from 1+24 to 1+100.
I have TriX400 used at box speed or pushed/pull.
Is there any rule of thumb to choose the best Rodinal mix
at certain film exposure type above?
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Massive Dev. Chart has around 7 kinds of combination
of Rodinal mixture for TriX400: from 1+24 to 1+100.
I have TriX400 used at box speed or pushed/pull.
Is there any rule of thumb to choose the best Rodinal mix
at certain film exposure type above?
film developer development
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Please define "best." More contrasty? Less contrasty? More detail in the highlights? More detail in the shadows? etc?
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Massive Dev. Chart has around 7 kinds of combination
of Rodinal mixture for TriX400: from 1+24 to 1+100.
I have TriX400 used at box speed or pushed/pull.
Is there any rule of thumb to choose the best Rodinal mix
at certain film exposure type above?
film developer development
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Massive Dev. Chart has around 7 kinds of combination
of Rodinal mixture for TriX400: from 1+24 to 1+100.
I have TriX400 used at box speed or pushed/pull.
Is there any rule of thumb to choose the best Rodinal mix
at certain film exposure type above?
film developer development
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The general idea with developing film is that one has supplied enough light to the film for a nominal exposure, and in order to take the next step, a chemical reaction must occur to bring out that latent image.
What do you think happens if your developer were halfway to exhausted when you used it? You'd get only a partially developed piece of film.
So, we use a mix of developer that contains enough actual chemical for the batch to never reach exhaustion. If you were to leave your film in the developer for any length of time, you'd wind up with severely overdeveloped negs because there is enough developer chemical to keep on truckin'.
So, your controls become temperature (colder == slower reaction) and time (less == less development). Just about all the work for this is done for you by the manufacturer and posted on the massive dev chart, the film box, film spec sheets, etc.
Now, what does all that have to do with Rodinal? Simple, at most ratios, Rodinal is like a normal developer in that you have far more developer chemical than needed so you develop normally. This is any ratio up to 1+50.
At 1+100 or higher, you wind up with a measly 5mL of Rodinal inside of 500mL of liquid. This maxes out the volume on most people's smaller Patterson tanks and is so little actual chemical that it will reach exhaustion during development. When you get to this point, that becomes the goal! This technique is called stand development. Most begin with 5mL of Rodinal at 1+100 ratios and soup the film for an hour. Personally, I spin-agitate mine for a bit at 30min (semi-stand).
Rodinal displays different characteristics in it's development based on the ratio chosen1. There's little really to do except advise you to experiment. At anything 1+50 and below, you'll get usable negs following the standard process.
1+100 and up is for stand-development, should be considered highly experimental (don't risk your prized shots), and a word of caution about this: Rodinal loses speed at this level. If your plan is to stand-dev, then overexpose your shots 1/3 to 2/3 stop when taking them to make up for it. Again, though, this is experimental...YMMV.
1: One could write a book on this so, to keep it brief: developer does not "work" at the same rate across the film. Highlight areas are dense and develop first, reaching a local exhaustion faster than shadow areas. This is why you agitate. Using higher ratios like 1+100 and not agitating so much will force a higher acutance, make the grains appear larger, and will have a compensating effect (lower contrast, help avoid blocking the highlights while the shadows develop). For this reason, most don't recommend Rodinal at all for high ISO films and especially not stand development.
Delta3200 @ ISO800 in 120 w/ 1+100 is about as grainy as I'll go. And it's very grainy. I like it for city/street imagery (comes off as gritty) but would avoid like the plague for portraits. At 135 film, the images to me are unusable no matter how well exposed/developed.
But, this is an art form. Be subjective and like what you like.
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The general idea with developing film is that one has supplied enough light to the film for a nominal exposure, and in order to take the next step, a chemical reaction must occur to bring out that latent image.
What do you think happens if your developer were halfway to exhausted when you used it? You'd get only a partially developed piece of film.
So, we use a mix of developer that contains enough actual chemical for the batch to never reach exhaustion. If you were to leave your film in the developer for any length of time, you'd wind up with severely overdeveloped negs because there is enough developer chemical to keep on truckin'.
So, your controls become temperature (colder == slower reaction) and time (less == less development). Just about all the work for this is done for you by the manufacturer and posted on the massive dev chart, the film box, film spec sheets, etc.
Now, what does all that have to do with Rodinal? Simple, at most ratios, Rodinal is like a normal developer in that you have far more developer chemical than needed so you develop normally. This is any ratio up to 1+50.
At 1+100 or higher, you wind up with a measly 5mL of Rodinal inside of 500mL of liquid. This maxes out the volume on most people's smaller Patterson tanks and is so little actual chemical that it will reach exhaustion during development. When you get to this point, that becomes the goal! This technique is called stand development. Most begin with 5mL of Rodinal at 1+100 ratios and soup the film for an hour. Personally, I spin-agitate mine for a bit at 30min (semi-stand).
Rodinal displays different characteristics in it's development based on the ratio chosen1. There's little really to do except advise you to experiment. At anything 1+50 and below, you'll get usable negs following the standard process.
1+100 and up is for stand-development, should be considered highly experimental (don't risk your prized shots), and a word of caution about this: Rodinal loses speed at this level. If your plan is to stand-dev, then overexpose your shots 1/3 to 2/3 stop when taking them to make up for it. Again, though, this is experimental...YMMV.
1: One could write a book on this so, to keep it brief: developer does not "work" at the same rate across the film. Highlight areas are dense and develop first, reaching a local exhaustion faster than shadow areas. This is why you agitate. Using higher ratios like 1+100 and not agitating so much will force a higher acutance, make the grains appear larger, and will have a compensating effect (lower contrast, help avoid blocking the highlights while the shadows develop). For this reason, most don't recommend Rodinal at all for high ISO films and especially not stand development.
Delta3200 @ ISO800 in 120 w/ 1+100 is about as grainy as I'll go. And it's very grainy. I like it for city/street imagery (comes off as gritty) but would avoid like the plague for portraits. At 135 film, the images to me are unusable no matter how well exposed/developed.
But, this is an art form. Be subjective and like what you like.
add a comment |
The general idea with developing film is that one has supplied enough light to the film for a nominal exposure, and in order to take the next step, a chemical reaction must occur to bring out that latent image.
What do you think happens if your developer were halfway to exhausted when you used it? You'd get only a partially developed piece of film.
So, we use a mix of developer that contains enough actual chemical for the batch to never reach exhaustion. If you were to leave your film in the developer for any length of time, you'd wind up with severely overdeveloped negs because there is enough developer chemical to keep on truckin'.
So, your controls become temperature (colder == slower reaction) and time (less == less development). Just about all the work for this is done for you by the manufacturer and posted on the massive dev chart, the film box, film spec sheets, etc.
Now, what does all that have to do with Rodinal? Simple, at most ratios, Rodinal is like a normal developer in that you have far more developer chemical than needed so you develop normally. This is any ratio up to 1+50.
At 1+100 or higher, you wind up with a measly 5mL of Rodinal inside of 500mL of liquid. This maxes out the volume on most people's smaller Patterson tanks and is so little actual chemical that it will reach exhaustion during development. When you get to this point, that becomes the goal! This technique is called stand development. Most begin with 5mL of Rodinal at 1+100 ratios and soup the film for an hour. Personally, I spin-agitate mine for a bit at 30min (semi-stand).
Rodinal displays different characteristics in it's development based on the ratio chosen1. There's little really to do except advise you to experiment. At anything 1+50 and below, you'll get usable negs following the standard process.
1+100 and up is for stand-development, should be considered highly experimental (don't risk your prized shots), and a word of caution about this: Rodinal loses speed at this level. If your plan is to stand-dev, then overexpose your shots 1/3 to 2/3 stop when taking them to make up for it. Again, though, this is experimental...YMMV.
1: One could write a book on this so, to keep it brief: developer does not "work" at the same rate across the film. Highlight areas are dense and develop first, reaching a local exhaustion faster than shadow areas. This is why you agitate. Using higher ratios like 1+100 and not agitating so much will force a higher acutance, make the grains appear larger, and will have a compensating effect (lower contrast, help avoid blocking the highlights while the shadows develop). For this reason, most don't recommend Rodinal at all for high ISO films and especially not stand development.
Delta3200 @ ISO800 in 120 w/ 1+100 is about as grainy as I'll go. And it's very grainy. I like it for city/street imagery (comes off as gritty) but would avoid like the plague for portraits. At 135 film, the images to me are unusable no matter how well exposed/developed.
But, this is an art form. Be subjective and like what you like.
add a comment |
The general idea with developing film is that one has supplied enough light to the film for a nominal exposure, and in order to take the next step, a chemical reaction must occur to bring out that latent image.
What do you think happens if your developer were halfway to exhausted when you used it? You'd get only a partially developed piece of film.
So, we use a mix of developer that contains enough actual chemical for the batch to never reach exhaustion. If you were to leave your film in the developer for any length of time, you'd wind up with severely overdeveloped negs because there is enough developer chemical to keep on truckin'.
So, your controls become temperature (colder == slower reaction) and time (less == less development). Just about all the work for this is done for you by the manufacturer and posted on the massive dev chart, the film box, film spec sheets, etc.
Now, what does all that have to do with Rodinal? Simple, at most ratios, Rodinal is like a normal developer in that you have far more developer chemical than needed so you develop normally. This is any ratio up to 1+50.
At 1+100 or higher, you wind up with a measly 5mL of Rodinal inside of 500mL of liquid. This maxes out the volume on most people's smaller Patterson tanks and is so little actual chemical that it will reach exhaustion during development. When you get to this point, that becomes the goal! This technique is called stand development. Most begin with 5mL of Rodinal at 1+100 ratios and soup the film for an hour. Personally, I spin-agitate mine for a bit at 30min (semi-stand).
Rodinal displays different characteristics in it's development based on the ratio chosen1. There's little really to do except advise you to experiment. At anything 1+50 and below, you'll get usable negs following the standard process.
1+100 and up is for stand-development, should be considered highly experimental (don't risk your prized shots), and a word of caution about this: Rodinal loses speed at this level. If your plan is to stand-dev, then overexpose your shots 1/3 to 2/3 stop when taking them to make up for it. Again, though, this is experimental...YMMV.
1: One could write a book on this so, to keep it brief: developer does not "work" at the same rate across the film. Highlight areas are dense and develop first, reaching a local exhaustion faster than shadow areas. This is why you agitate. Using higher ratios like 1+100 and not agitating so much will force a higher acutance, make the grains appear larger, and will have a compensating effect (lower contrast, help avoid blocking the highlights while the shadows develop). For this reason, most don't recommend Rodinal at all for high ISO films and especially not stand development.
Delta3200 @ ISO800 in 120 w/ 1+100 is about as grainy as I'll go. And it's very grainy. I like it for city/street imagery (comes off as gritty) but would avoid like the plague for portraits. At 135 film, the images to me are unusable no matter how well exposed/developed.
But, this is an art form. Be subjective and like what you like.
The general idea with developing film is that one has supplied enough light to the film for a nominal exposure, and in order to take the next step, a chemical reaction must occur to bring out that latent image.
What do you think happens if your developer were halfway to exhausted when you used it? You'd get only a partially developed piece of film.
So, we use a mix of developer that contains enough actual chemical for the batch to never reach exhaustion. If you were to leave your film in the developer for any length of time, you'd wind up with severely overdeveloped negs because there is enough developer chemical to keep on truckin'.
So, your controls become temperature (colder == slower reaction) and time (less == less development). Just about all the work for this is done for you by the manufacturer and posted on the massive dev chart, the film box, film spec sheets, etc.
Now, what does all that have to do with Rodinal? Simple, at most ratios, Rodinal is like a normal developer in that you have far more developer chemical than needed so you develop normally. This is any ratio up to 1+50.
At 1+100 or higher, you wind up with a measly 5mL of Rodinal inside of 500mL of liquid. This maxes out the volume on most people's smaller Patterson tanks and is so little actual chemical that it will reach exhaustion during development. When you get to this point, that becomes the goal! This technique is called stand development. Most begin with 5mL of Rodinal at 1+100 ratios and soup the film for an hour. Personally, I spin-agitate mine for a bit at 30min (semi-stand).
Rodinal displays different characteristics in it's development based on the ratio chosen1. There's little really to do except advise you to experiment. At anything 1+50 and below, you'll get usable negs following the standard process.
1+100 and up is for stand-development, should be considered highly experimental (don't risk your prized shots), and a word of caution about this: Rodinal loses speed at this level. If your plan is to stand-dev, then overexpose your shots 1/3 to 2/3 stop when taking them to make up for it. Again, though, this is experimental...YMMV.
1: One could write a book on this so, to keep it brief: developer does not "work" at the same rate across the film. Highlight areas are dense and develop first, reaching a local exhaustion faster than shadow areas. This is why you agitate. Using higher ratios like 1+100 and not agitating so much will force a higher acutance, make the grains appear larger, and will have a compensating effect (lower contrast, help avoid blocking the highlights while the shadows develop). For this reason, most don't recommend Rodinal at all for high ISO films and especially not stand development.
Delta3200 @ ISO800 in 120 w/ 1+100 is about as grainy as I'll go. And it's very grainy. I like it for city/street imagery (comes off as gritty) but would avoid like the plague for portraits. At 135 film, the images to me are unusable no matter how well exposed/developed.
But, this is an art form. Be subjective and like what you like.
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Please define "best." More contrasty? Less contrasty? More detail in the highlights? More detail in the shadows? etc?
– Michael C
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