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Does taxiing in London City (LCY) happen on the runway?
How are taxi to and hold instructions given on an airport without taxiways to the runway end?What is the difference between the ILS Critical Area and the ILS Sensitive Area?Who has the higher authority, the pilot in command or ATC?What is the definition of taxiing?Are zero visibility landings practical and desirable for commercial aviation?How are taxi to and hold instructions given on an airport without taxiways to the runway end?How does an aircraft turn while taxiing?Does taxiing time gets considered in a pilot's flying hours?How should you coordinate with traffic at non-towered airports?How does an airplane move itself in the runway?How do aircraft follow the tarmac lines while taxiing?How to achieve shorter taxiing time by elongating the airfield
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I recently had a ride to LCY (London City). Awesome, by the way. They have only one runway (09/27) and no apparent taxiways.
(Source: Google Maps)
After landing, how do the aircraft get from the runway to the terminal? Do they just perform a U-turn on the (end of the) the runway and taxi back to the terminals?
taxiing taxiways
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I recently had a ride to LCY (London City). Awesome, by the way. They have only one runway (09/27) and no apparent taxiways.
(Source: Google Maps)
After landing, how do the aircraft get from the runway to the terminal? Do they just perform a U-turn on the (end of the) the runway and taxi back to the terminals?
taxiing taxiways
edited 1 hour ago
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Nomenclature: taxiing down the runway in the opposite direction of takeoffs/landings is known as a back-taxi.
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– jdude97
10 hours ago
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Probably, since there doesn’t appear to be any other option. Since you were just there though, weren’t you able to observe this directly yourself? Or I guess you didn’t think about it at the time and only noticed when looking at the overhead image later...
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– Michael Hall
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I don't understand your question. There is no possible alternative to taxiing back along the runway. What else could you possibly even imagine as an alternative?
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– David Richerby
8 hours ago
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Why the down vote? Question whose answer is obvious to many may not be obvious to others.
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– Jimmy
8 hours ago
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This question isn't exactly a dupe, but it gives a lot of relevant information
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I recently had a ride to LCY (London City). Awesome, by the way. They have only one runway (09/27) and no apparent taxiways.
(Source: Google Maps)
After landing, how do the aircraft get from the runway to the terminal? Do they just perform a U-turn on the (end of the) the runway and taxi back to the terminals?
taxiing taxiways
edited 1 hour ago
Ralph J
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I recently had a ride to LCY (London City). Awesome, by the way. They have only one runway (09/27) and no apparent taxiways.
(Source: Google Maps)
After landing, how do the aircraft get from the runway to the terminal? Do they just perform a U-turn on the (end of the) the runway and taxi back to the terminals?
taxiing taxiways
taxiing taxiways
edited 1 hour ago
Ralph J
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Nomenclature: taxiing down the runway in the opposite direction of takeoffs/landings is known as a back-taxi.
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– jdude97
10 hours ago
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Probably, since there doesn’t appear to be any other option. Since you were just there though, weren’t you able to observe this directly yourself? Or I guess you didn’t think about it at the time and only noticed when looking at the overhead image later...
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– Michael Hall
9 hours ago
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I don't understand your question. There is no possible alternative to taxiing back along the runway. What else could you possibly even imagine as an alternative?
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– David Richerby
8 hours ago
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Why the down vote? Question whose answer is obvious to many may not be obvious to others.
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– Jimmy
8 hours ago
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This question isn't exactly a dupe, but it gives a lot of relevant information
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– Pondlife
7 hours ago
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Nomenclature: taxiing down the runway in the opposite direction of takeoffs/landings is known as a back-taxi.
$endgroup$
– jdude97
10 hours ago
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Probably, since there doesn’t appear to be any other option. Since you were just there though, weren’t you able to observe this directly yourself? Or I guess you didn’t think about it at the time and only noticed when looking at the overhead image later...
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– Michael Hall
9 hours ago
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I don't understand your question. There is no possible alternative to taxiing back along the runway. What else could you possibly even imagine as an alternative?
$endgroup$
– David Richerby
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
Why the down vote? Question whose answer is obvious to many may not be obvious to others.
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– Jimmy
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
This question isn't exactly a dupe, but it gives a lot of relevant information
$endgroup$
– Pondlife
7 hours ago
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Nomenclature: taxiing down the runway in the opposite direction of takeoffs/landings is known as a back-taxi.
$endgroup$
– jdude97
10 hours ago
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Nomenclature: taxiing down the runway in the opposite direction of takeoffs/landings is known as a back-taxi.
$endgroup$
– jdude97
10 hours ago
$begingroup$
Probably, since there doesn’t appear to be any other option. Since you were just there though, weren’t you able to observe this directly yourself? Or I guess you didn’t think about it at the time and only noticed when looking at the overhead image later...
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– Michael Hall
9 hours ago
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Probably, since there doesn’t appear to be any other option. Since you were just there though, weren’t you able to observe this directly yourself? Or I guess you didn’t think about it at the time and only noticed when looking at the overhead image later...
$endgroup$
– Michael Hall
9 hours ago
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I don't understand your question. There is no possible alternative to taxiing back along the runway. What else could you possibly even imagine as an alternative?
$endgroup$
– David Richerby
8 hours ago
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I don't understand your question. There is no possible alternative to taxiing back along the runway. What else could you possibly even imagine as an alternative?
$endgroup$
– David Richerby
8 hours ago
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Why the down vote? Question whose answer is obvious to many may not be obvious to others.
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– Jimmy
8 hours ago
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Why the down vote? Question whose answer is obvious to many may not be obvious to others.
$endgroup$
– Jimmy
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
This question isn't exactly a dupe, but it gives a lot of relevant information
$endgroup$
– Pondlife
7 hours ago
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This question isn't exactly a dupe, but it gives a lot of relevant information
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To answer the title question, yes.
There are nice timelapse videos for EGLC/LCY on YouTube, if you want to see it in action. (Example.)
As for the actual operation at the airport, below is the official chart and textual data via the UK AIP:
6 USE OF RUNWAYS
b) Minimum Runway Occupancy Time - Arriving Aircraft.
- Pilots are reminded that prompt exit from the runway enables ATC to apply minimum spacing on final approach that will achieve maximum runway utilisation and will minimise the occurrence of 'go-arounds'.
- When landing on Runway 09 pilots should commence back-track as soon as practicable and exit via Hold Echo unless otherwise instructed by ATC. Any aircraft that continues landing roll beyond Hold Kilo may infringe the ILS critical area.
- When landing on Runway 27 A318 and CS100 pilots should plan to exit at Hold Delta (after a back-track if required). A318 and CS100 aircraft are not permitted to exit via Holds Charlie, Bravo, or Alpha. All other aircraft types may use any Hold to exit the runway except Hold Echo which shall only be used when specifically instructed by ATC. Pilots should be aware that use of Hold Alpha will increase Runway Occupancy Time.
- Pilots expecting to use the full runway length to stop (e.g. due aircraft weight/meteorological conditions) are requested to inform Thames Radar on first contact.
(Bold emphasis mine.)
The short version: backtrack [on the runway] to vacate as soon as possible using the specified exits even if other exits may seem to be available, and if you need full runway length, notify the approach controller (Thames Radar).
(If the pilot does need full length, the approach controller needs to know to add extra spacing for the plane behind.)
For the exits mentioned in the text, reference the chart below:
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Taxiing back to the other end is a "backtrack". At a controlled airport like that, the backtrack would need a clearance.
When you land at London City, you will roll out and turn off onto that little turnaround bay, where you are "clear of the active" and you would then need a backtrack clearance to return to the other end.
It would depend on the traffic level. If you landed and someone was right behind you, you might need to wait for the other a/c to roll past and then you'd get a backtrack clearance to pull back out onto the runway to taxi to the other end. If it's not busy, the tower controller may give you a backtrack clearance as part of your landing clearance so you can land, turn around and proceed straight back. The controller can't give a landing clearance to anyone else until you are clear.
In any case, the main thing is that you can't proceed back without permission from somebody.
Note that London City is now controlled offsite using special cameras and sensors, but it works the same way.
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To answer the title question, yes.
There are nice timelapse videos for EGLC/LCY on YouTube, if you want to see it in action. (Example.)
As for the actual operation at the airport, below is the official chart and textual data via the UK AIP:
6 USE OF RUNWAYS
b) Minimum Runway Occupancy Time - Arriving Aircraft.
- Pilots are reminded that prompt exit from the runway enables ATC to apply minimum spacing on final approach that will achieve maximum runway utilisation and will minimise the occurrence of 'go-arounds'.
- When landing on Runway 09 pilots should commence back-track as soon as practicable and exit via Hold Echo unless otherwise instructed by ATC. Any aircraft that continues landing roll beyond Hold Kilo may infringe the ILS critical area.
- When landing on Runway 27 A318 and CS100 pilots should plan to exit at Hold Delta (after a back-track if required). A318 and CS100 aircraft are not permitted to exit via Holds Charlie, Bravo, or Alpha. All other aircraft types may use any Hold to exit the runway except Hold Echo which shall only be used when specifically instructed by ATC. Pilots should be aware that use of Hold Alpha will increase Runway Occupancy Time.
- Pilots expecting to use the full runway length to stop (e.g. due aircraft weight/meteorological conditions) are requested to inform Thames Radar on first contact.
(Bold emphasis mine.)
The short version: backtrack [on the runway] to vacate as soon as possible using the specified exits even if other exits may seem to be available, and if you need full runway length, notify the approach controller (Thames Radar).
(If the pilot does need full length, the approach controller needs to know to add extra spacing for the plane behind.)
For the exits mentioned in the text, reference the chart below:
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To answer the title question, yes.
There are nice timelapse videos for EGLC/LCY on YouTube, if you want to see it in action. (Example.)
As for the actual operation at the airport, below is the official chart and textual data via the UK AIP:
6 USE OF RUNWAYS
b) Minimum Runway Occupancy Time - Arriving Aircraft.
- Pilots are reminded that prompt exit from the runway enables ATC to apply minimum spacing on final approach that will achieve maximum runway utilisation and will minimise the occurrence of 'go-arounds'.
- When landing on Runway 09 pilots should commence back-track as soon as practicable and exit via Hold Echo unless otherwise instructed by ATC. Any aircraft that continues landing roll beyond Hold Kilo may infringe the ILS critical area.
- When landing on Runway 27 A318 and CS100 pilots should plan to exit at Hold Delta (after a back-track if required). A318 and CS100 aircraft are not permitted to exit via Holds Charlie, Bravo, or Alpha. All other aircraft types may use any Hold to exit the runway except Hold Echo which shall only be used when specifically instructed by ATC. Pilots should be aware that use of Hold Alpha will increase Runway Occupancy Time.
- Pilots expecting to use the full runway length to stop (e.g. due aircraft weight/meteorological conditions) are requested to inform Thames Radar on first contact.
(Bold emphasis mine.)
The short version: backtrack [on the runway] to vacate as soon as possible using the specified exits even if other exits may seem to be available, and if you need full runway length, notify the approach controller (Thames Radar).
(If the pilot does need full length, the approach controller needs to know to add extra spacing for the plane behind.)
For the exits mentioned in the text, reference the chart below:
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To answer the title question, yes.
There are nice timelapse videos for EGLC/LCY on YouTube, if you want to see it in action. (Example.)
As for the actual operation at the airport, below is the official chart and textual data via the UK AIP:
6 USE OF RUNWAYS
b) Minimum Runway Occupancy Time - Arriving Aircraft.
- Pilots are reminded that prompt exit from the runway enables ATC to apply minimum spacing on final approach that will achieve maximum runway utilisation and will minimise the occurrence of 'go-arounds'.
- When landing on Runway 09 pilots should commence back-track as soon as practicable and exit via Hold Echo unless otherwise instructed by ATC. Any aircraft that continues landing roll beyond Hold Kilo may infringe the ILS critical area.
- When landing on Runway 27 A318 and CS100 pilots should plan to exit at Hold Delta (after a back-track if required). A318 and CS100 aircraft are not permitted to exit via Holds Charlie, Bravo, or Alpha. All other aircraft types may use any Hold to exit the runway except Hold Echo which shall only be used when specifically instructed by ATC. Pilots should be aware that use of Hold Alpha will increase Runway Occupancy Time.
- Pilots expecting to use the full runway length to stop (e.g. due aircraft weight/meteorological conditions) are requested to inform Thames Radar on first contact.
(Bold emphasis mine.)
The short version: backtrack [on the runway] to vacate as soon as possible using the specified exits even if other exits may seem to be available, and if you need full runway length, notify the approach controller (Thames Radar).
(If the pilot does need full length, the approach controller needs to know to add extra spacing for the plane behind.)
For the exits mentioned in the text, reference the chart below:
answered 2 hours ago
ymb1ymb1
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To answer the title question, yes.
There are nice timelapse videos for EGLC/LCY on YouTube, if you want to see it in action. (Example.)
As for the actual operation at the airport, below is the official chart and textual data via the UK AIP:
6 USE OF RUNWAYS
b) Minimum Runway Occupancy Time - Arriving Aircraft.
- Pilots are reminded that prompt exit from the runway enables ATC to apply minimum spacing on final approach that will achieve maximum runway utilisation and will minimise the occurrence of 'go-arounds'.
- When landing on Runway 09 pilots should commence back-track as soon as practicable and exit via Hold Echo unless otherwise instructed by ATC. Any aircraft that continues landing roll beyond Hold Kilo may infringe the ILS critical area.
- When landing on Runway 27 A318 and CS100 pilots should plan to exit at Hold Delta (after a back-track if required). A318 and CS100 aircraft are not permitted to exit via Holds Charlie, Bravo, or Alpha. All other aircraft types may use any Hold to exit the runway except Hold Echo which shall only be used when specifically instructed by ATC. Pilots should be aware that use of Hold Alpha will increase Runway Occupancy Time.
- Pilots expecting to use the full runway length to stop (e.g. due aircraft weight/meteorological conditions) are requested to inform Thames Radar on first contact.
(Bold emphasis mine.)
The short version: backtrack [on the runway] to vacate as soon as possible using the specified exits even if other exits may seem to be available, and if you need full runway length, notify the approach controller (Thames Radar).
(If the pilot does need full length, the approach controller needs to know to add extra spacing for the plane behind.)
For the exits mentioned in the text, reference the chart below:
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Taxiing back to the other end is a "backtrack". At a controlled airport like that, the backtrack would need a clearance.
When you land at London City, you will roll out and turn off onto that little turnaround bay, where you are "clear of the active" and you would then need a backtrack clearance to return to the other end.
It would depend on the traffic level. If you landed and someone was right behind you, you might need to wait for the other a/c to roll past and then you'd get a backtrack clearance to pull back out onto the runway to taxi to the other end. If it's not busy, the tower controller may give you a backtrack clearance as part of your landing clearance so you can land, turn around and proceed straight back. The controller can't give a landing clearance to anyone else until you are clear.
In any case, the main thing is that you can't proceed back without permission from somebody.
Note that London City is now controlled offsite using special cameras and sensors, but it works the same way.
answered 4 hours ago
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Taxiing back to the other end is a "backtrack". At a controlled airport like that, the backtrack would need a clearance.
When you land at London City, you will roll out and turn off onto that little turnaround bay, where you are "clear of the active" and you would then need a backtrack clearance to return to the other end.
It would depend on the traffic level. If you landed and someone was right behind you, you might need to wait for the other a/c to roll past and then you'd get a backtrack clearance to pull back out onto the runway to taxi to the other end. If it's not busy, the tower controller may give you a backtrack clearance as part of your landing clearance so you can land, turn around and proceed straight back. The controller can't give a landing clearance to anyone else until you are clear.
In any case, the main thing is that you can't proceed back without permission from somebody.
Note that London City is now controlled offsite using special cameras and sensors, but it works the same way.
answered 4 hours ago
John KJohn K
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Taxiing back to the other end is a "backtrack". At a controlled airport like that, the backtrack would need a clearance.
When you land at London City, you will roll out and turn off onto that little turnaround bay, where you are "clear of the active" and you would then need a backtrack clearance to return to the other end.
It would depend on the traffic level. If you landed and someone was right behind you, you might need to wait for the other a/c to roll past and then you'd get a backtrack clearance to pull back out onto the runway to taxi to the other end. If it's not busy, the tower controller may give you a backtrack clearance as part of your landing clearance so you can land, turn around and proceed straight back. The controller can't give a landing clearance to anyone else until you are clear.
In any case, the main thing is that you can't proceed back without permission from somebody.
Note that London City is now controlled offsite using special cameras and sensors, but it works the same way.
answered 4 hours ago
John KJohn K
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$endgroup$
Taxiing back to the other end is a "backtrack". At a controlled airport like that, the backtrack would need a clearance.
When you land at London City, you will roll out and turn off onto that little turnaround bay, where you are "clear of the active" and you would then need a backtrack clearance to return to the other end.
It would depend on the traffic level. If you landed and someone was right behind you, you might need to wait for the other a/c to roll past and then you'd get a backtrack clearance to pull back out onto the runway to taxi to the other end. If it's not busy, the tower controller may give you a backtrack clearance as part of your landing clearance so you can land, turn around and proceed straight back. The controller can't give a landing clearance to anyone else until you are clear.
In any case, the main thing is that you can't proceed back without permission from somebody.
Note that London City is now controlled offsite using special cameras and sensors, but it works the same way.
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Nomenclature: taxiing down the runway in the opposite direction of takeoffs/landings is known as a back-taxi.
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– jdude97
10 hours ago
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Probably, since there doesn’t appear to be any other option. Since you were just there though, weren’t you able to observe this directly yourself? Or I guess you didn’t think about it at the time and only noticed when looking at the overhead image later...
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– Michael Hall
9 hours ago
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I don't understand your question. There is no possible alternative to taxiing back along the runway. What else could you possibly even imagine as an alternative?
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– David Richerby
8 hours ago
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Why the down vote? Question whose answer is obvious to many may not be obvious to others.
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– Jimmy
8 hours ago
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This question isn't exactly a dupe, but it gives a lot of relevant information
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– Pondlife
7 hours ago