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Does a creature have cover when moving through an ally space?
Does the Linebreaker feat imply that the battlemind provokes an opportunity attack?Does moving towards an enemy with a reach weapon provoke an attack of opportunity?AoOs against the same enemy on his turn?Does moving into an opponent's square generate an Attack of Opportunity when you do so with a 5-foot step?What square do attacks of opportunity occur in — the square being moved out of or the one being enteredHow many Acrobatics checks are needed to pass through a medium creature's threatened area via its space?Does The Idea Of Threatened Squares Exist in 5e?Does moving out of multiple squares that a single opponent threatens provoke multiple attacks of opportunity?Does a ranged attack around a corner incur cover penalties?Does a creature get to choose which square it takes its Attack of Opportunity from movement on?
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Suppose in the following position A has a reach weapon (and is an enemy of both B and C, not sure if that changes anything). C has soft cover from A, but is also out of reach. Now, C moves closer to A - through B's square then into the empty square. Movement into the empty square would normally provoke an attack of opportunity for moving out of the square threatened via reach, but if B provides soft cover for those moving through his space, that attack cannot be taken. So. Do any rules, FAQs, etc. rule either way?
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Suppose in the following position A has a reach weapon (and is an enemy of both B and C, not sure if that changes anything). C has soft cover from A, but is also out of reach. Now, C moves closer to A - through B's square then into the empty square. Movement into the empty square would normally provoke an attack of opportunity for moving out of the square threatened via reach, but if B provides soft cover for those moving through his space, that attack cannot be taken. So. Do any rules, FAQs, etc. rule either way?
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That’s a damn good question; I don’t think there’s an answer for it. Here’s hoping someone knows something I don’t!
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Suppose in the following position A has a reach weapon (and is an enemy of both B and C, not sure if that changes anything). C has soft cover from A, but is also out of reach. Now, C moves closer to A - through B's square then into the empty square. Movement into the empty square would normally provoke an attack of opportunity for moving out of the square threatened via reach, but if B provides soft cover for those moving through his space, that attack cannot be taken. So. Do any rules, FAQs, etc. rule either way?
A.BC
pathfinder combat opportunity-attack cover
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Suppose in the following position A has a reach weapon (and is an enemy of both B and C, not sure if that changes anything). C has soft cover from A, but is also out of reach. Now, C moves closer to A - through B's square then into the empty square. Movement into the empty square would normally provoke an attack of opportunity for moving out of the square threatened via reach, but if B provides soft cover for those moving through his space, that attack cannot be taken. So. Do any rules, FAQs, etc. rule either way?
A.BC
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That’s a damn good question; I don’t think there’s an answer for it. Here’s hoping someone knows something I don’t!
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– KRyan
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That’s a damn good question; I don’t think there’s an answer for it. Here’s hoping someone knows something I don’t!
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On Cover says, "When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks." That's done by doing this:
To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC).
Also, on Cover and Attacks of Opportunity says, "You can’t execute an attack of opportunity against an opponent with cover relative to you."
However, Moving through a Square says, "You can move through a square occupied by a friendly character, unless you are charging. When you move through a square occupied by a friendly character, that character doesn’t provide you with cover" (emphasis mine).
Thus, in the scenario described in the question, when C takes a move action to move into his ally B's square, A can't make an attack of opportunity against C because the attack of opportunity would've been provoked from the square C just left, and C has soft cover from A in that square. However, when C exits B's square (as he typically must), if C exits into a space that that A still threatens, C will provoke attacks of opportunity normally as C being in the square with B doesn't provide either of them with cover.
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True Story: In D&D 3.5 (whence this Pathfinder rule originates), the PCs at my table were taking on a conversion of The Keep on the Borderland and were happily moving through each other's squares to avoid attacks of opportunity (i.e. the Pardon Me! school of combat) until someone noticed the Player's Handbook's rules on Moving through a Square (147). The adventure suddenly got far more dangerous!
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On Cover says, "When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks." That's done by doing this:
To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC).
Also, on Cover and Attacks of Opportunity says, "You can’t execute an attack of opportunity against an opponent with cover relative to you."
However, Moving through a Square says, "You can move through a square occupied by a friendly character, unless you are charging. When you move through a square occupied by a friendly character, that character doesn’t provide you with cover" (emphasis mine).
Thus, in the scenario described in the question, when C takes a move action to move into his ally B's square, A can't make an attack of opportunity against C because the attack of opportunity would've been provoked from the square C just left, and C has soft cover from A in that square. However, when C exits B's square (as he typically must), if C exits into a space that that A still threatens, C will provoke attacks of opportunity normally as C being in the square with B doesn't provide either of them with cover.
answered 8 hours ago
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True Story: In D&D 3.5 (whence this Pathfinder rule originates), the PCs at my table were taking on a conversion of The Keep on the Borderland and were happily moving through each other's squares to avoid attacks of opportunity (i.e. the Pardon Me! school of combat) until someone noticed the Player's Handbook's rules on Moving through a Square (147). The adventure suddenly got far more dangerous!
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– Hey I Can Chan
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On Cover says, "When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks." That's done by doing this:
To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC).
Also, on Cover and Attacks of Opportunity says, "You can’t execute an attack of opportunity against an opponent with cover relative to you."
However, Moving through a Square says, "You can move through a square occupied by a friendly character, unless you are charging. When you move through a square occupied by a friendly character, that character doesn’t provide you with cover" (emphasis mine).
Thus, in the scenario described in the question, when C takes a move action to move into his ally B's square, A can't make an attack of opportunity against C because the attack of opportunity would've been provoked from the square C just left, and C has soft cover from A in that square. However, when C exits B's square (as he typically must), if C exits into a space that that A still threatens, C will provoke attacks of opportunity normally as C being in the square with B doesn't provide either of them with cover.
answered 8 hours ago
Hey I Can ChanHey I Can Chan
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$begingroup$
True Story: In D&D 3.5 (whence this Pathfinder rule originates), the PCs at my table were taking on a conversion of The Keep on the Borderland and were happily moving through each other's squares to avoid attacks of opportunity (i.e. the Pardon Me! school of combat) until someone noticed the Player's Handbook's rules on Moving through a Square (147). The adventure suddenly got far more dangerous!
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– Hey I Can Chan
7 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
On Cover says, "When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks." That's done by doing this:
To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC).
Also, on Cover and Attacks of Opportunity says, "You can’t execute an attack of opportunity against an opponent with cover relative to you."
However, Moving through a Square says, "You can move through a square occupied by a friendly character, unless you are charging. When you move through a square occupied by a friendly character, that character doesn’t provide you with cover" (emphasis mine).
Thus, in the scenario described in the question, when C takes a move action to move into his ally B's square, A can't make an attack of opportunity against C because the attack of opportunity would've been provoked from the square C just left, and C has soft cover from A in that square. However, when C exits B's square (as he typically must), if C exits into a space that that A still threatens, C will provoke attacks of opportunity normally as C being in the square with B doesn't provide either of them with cover.
answered 8 hours ago
Hey I Can ChanHey I Can Chan
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On Cover says, "When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks." That's done by doing this:
To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC).
Also, on Cover and Attacks of Opportunity says, "You can’t execute an attack of opportunity against an opponent with cover relative to you."
However, Moving through a Square says, "You can move through a square occupied by a friendly character, unless you are charging. When you move through a square occupied by a friendly character, that character doesn’t provide you with cover" (emphasis mine).
Thus, in the scenario described in the question, when C takes a move action to move into his ally B's square, A can't make an attack of opportunity against C because the attack of opportunity would've been provoked from the square C just left, and C has soft cover from A in that square. However, when C exits B's square (as he typically must), if C exits into a space that that A still threatens, C will provoke attacks of opportunity normally as C being in the square with B doesn't provide either of them with cover.
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True Story: In D&D 3.5 (whence this Pathfinder rule originates), the PCs at my table were taking on a conversion of The Keep on the Borderland and were happily moving through each other's squares to avoid attacks of opportunity (i.e. the Pardon Me! school of combat) until someone noticed the Player's Handbook's rules on Moving through a Square (147). The adventure suddenly got far more dangerous!
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– Hey I Can Chan
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$begingroup$
True Story: In D&D 3.5 (whence this Pathfinder rule originates), the PCs at my table were taking on a conversion of The Keep on the Borderland and were happily moving through each other's squares to avoid attacks of opportunity (i.e. the Pardon Me! school of combat) until someone noticed the Player's Handbook's rules on Moving through a Square (147). The adventure suddenly got far more dangerous!
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– Hey I Can Chan
7 hours ago
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True Story: In D&D 3.5 (whence this Pathfinder rule originates), the PCs at my table were taking on a conversion of The Keep on the Borderland and were happily moving through each other's squares to avoid attacks of opportunity (i.e. the Pardon Me! school of combat) until someone noticed the Player's Handbook's rules on Moving through a Square (147). The adventure suddenly got far more dangerous!
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– Hey I Can Chan
7 hours ago
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True Story: In D&D 3.5 (whence this Pathfinder rule originates), the PCs at my table were taking on a conversion of The Keep on the Borderland and were happily moving through each other's squares to avoid attacks of opportunity (i.e. the Pardon Me! school of combat) until someone noticed the Player's Handbook's rules on Moving through a Square (147). The adventure suddenly got far more dangerous!
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