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Take for instance these two sentences:
[...] to confirm to clients that they are eating food free from contaminants and disease-causing bacteria, but also to identify the properties of the dishes.
[...] to confirm to clients that they are eating food free from contaminants and disease-causing bacteria, but to also identify the properties of the dishes.
Which of the above sentences is using correct grammar?
prepositions adverb-position
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Take for instance these two sentences:
[...] to confirm to clients that they are eating food free from contaminants and disease-causing bacteria, but also to identify the properties of the dishes.
[...] to confirm to clients that they are eating food free from contaminants and disease-causing bacteria, but to also identify the properties of the dishes.
Which of the above sentences is using correct grammar?
prepositions adverb-position
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i know you didn't ask this, but the "that" is unnecessary.
– mike65535
7 hours ago
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Pedants used to object to the Star Trek introduction ... "to boldly go where no man has gone before". Eventually they changed "no man" to "no one". But they didn't get rid of the split infinitive.
– GEdgar
6 hours ago
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Take for instance these two sentences:
[...] to confirm to clients that they are eating food free from contaminants and disease-causing bacteria, but also to identify the properties of the dishes.
[...] to confirm to clients that they are eating food free from contaminants and disease-causing bacteria, but to also identify the properties of the dishes.
Which of the above sentences is using correct grammar?
prepositions adverb-position
asked 8 hours ago
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Take for instance these two sentences:
[...] to confirm to clients that they are eating food free from contaminants and disease-causing bacteria, but also to identify the properties of the dishes.
[...] to confirm to clients that they are eating food free from contaminants and disease-causing bacteria, but to also identify the properties of the dishes.
Which of the above sentences is using correct grammar?
prepositions adverb-position
prepositions adverb-position
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i know you didn't ask this, but the "that" is unnecessary.
– mike65535
7 hours ago
1
Pedants used to object to the Star Trek introduction ... "to boldly go where no man has gone before". Eventually they changed "no man" to "no one". But they didn't get rid of the split infinitive.
– GEdgar
6 hours ago
add a comment |
i know you didn't ask this, but the "that" is unnecessary.
– mike65535
7 hours ago
1
Pedants used to object to the Star Trek introduction ... "to boldly go where no man has gone before". Eventually they changed "no man" to "no one". But they didn't get rid of the split infinitive.
– GEdgar
6 hours ago
i know you didn't ask this, but the "that" is unnecessary.
– mike65535
7 hours ago
i know you didn't ask this, but the "that" is unnecessary.
– mike65535
7 hours ago
1
1
Pedants used to object to the Star Trek introduction ... "to boldly go where no man has gone before". Eventually they changed "no man" to "no one". But they didn't get rid of the split infinitive.
– GEdgar
6 hours ago
Pedants used to object to the Star Trek introduction ... "to boldly go where no man has gone before". Eventually they changed "no man" to "no one". But they didn't get rid of the split infinitive.
– GEdgar
6 hours ago
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This depends on how formal you wish to be. By the content it sounds like you wish to be relatively formal.
The construction ''to identify'' is an infinitive in English. Traditional orthodoxy has it that infinitives should not be split, which is to say that no adverb should be interposed between ''to'' and the verb form (in this case ``identify''). If you are concerned about grammatical niceties it's probably best to be on the safe side and to go with your first formulation ''also to identify''. That is also the sentence that rings more naturally to my ears.
However, the prohibition on split infinitives doesn't always follow oral usage and there are contexts where it will read better to split the infinitive. My own preference would generally be to split the infinitive here if the only alternative sounds forced or unnatural. That said, when I'm writing formal papers I will generally look for a work-around rather as far as possible in preference to infinitive-splitting.
In your example ''but to also identify the properties of the dishes'' not only splits the infinitive but seems awkward to me, so I would strongly recommend the first sentence. The key is that, in my opinion, this is not an inviolable grammatical rule unless you are in a very particular context.
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Phonetically, but also to is much easier than but to also, because you've got two vowels together in the last one, while every syllable in the first one has a consonant on either side. That makes it trip off the tongue more easily, without any ugly gloʔʔal stops.
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This depends on how formal you wish to be. By the content it sounds like you wish to be relatively formal.
The construction ''to identify'' is an infinitive in English. Traditional orthodoxy has it that infinitives should not be split, which is to say that no adverb should be interposed between ''to'' and the verb form (in this case ``identify''). If you are concerned about grammatical niceties it's probably best to be on the safe side and to go with your first formulation ''also to identify''. That is also the sentence that rings more naturally to my ears.
However, the prohibition on split infinitives doesn't always follow oral usage and there are contexts where it will read better to split the infinitive. My own preference would generally be to split the infinitive here if the only alternative sounds forced or unnatural. That said, when I'm writing formal papers I will generally look for a work-around rather as far as possible in preference to infinitive-splitting.
In your example ''but to also identify the properties of the dishes'' not only splits the infinitive but seems awkward to me, so I would strongly recommend the first sentence. The key is that, in my opinion, this is not an inviolable grammatical rule unless you are in a very particular context.
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Phonetically, but also to is much easier than but to also, because you've got two vowels together in the last one, while every syllable in the first one has a consonant on either side. That makes it trip off the tongue more easily, without any ugly gloʔʔal stops.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
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This depends on how formal you wish to be. By the content it sounds like you wish to be relatively formal.
The construction ''to identify'' is an infinitive in English. Traditional orthodoxy has it that infinitives should not be split, which is to say that no adverb should be interposed between ''to'' and the verb form (in this case ``identify''). If you are concerned about grammatical niceties it's probably best to be on the safe side and to go with your first formulation ''also to identify''. That is also the sentence that rings more naturally to my ears.
However, the prohibition on split infinitives doesn't always follow oral usage and there are contexts where it will read better to split the infinitive. My own preference would generally be to split the infinitive here if the only alternative sounds forced or unnatural. That said, when I'm writing formal papers I will generally look for a work-around rather as far as possible in preference to infinitive-splitting.
In your example ''but to also identify the properties of the dishes'' not only splits the infinitive but seems awkward to me, so I would strongly recommend the first sentence. The key is that, in my opinion, this is not an inviolable grammatical rule unless you are in a very particular context.
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Phonetically, but also to is much easier than but to also, because you've got two vowels together in the last one, while every syllable in the first one has a consonant on either side. That makes it trip off the tongue more easily, without any ugly gloʔʔal stops.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
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This depends on how formal you wish to be. By the content it sounds like you wish to be relatively formal.
The construction ''to identify'' is an infinitive in English. Traditional orthodoxy has it that infinitives should not be split, which is to say that no adverb should be interposed between ''to'' and the verb form (in this case ``identify''). If you are concerned about grammatical niceties it's probably best to be on the safe side and to go with your first formulation ''also to identify''. That is also the sentence that rings more naturally to my ears.
However, the prohibition on split infinitives doesn't always follow oral usage and there are contexts where it will read better to split the infinitive. My own preference would generally be to split the infinitive here if the only alternative sounds forced or unnatural. That said, when I'm writing formal papers I will generally look for a work-around rather as far as possible in preference to infinitive-splitting.
In your example ''but to also identify the properties of the dishes'' not only splits the infinitive but seems awkward to me, so I would strongly recommend the first sentence. The key is that, in my opinion, this is not an inviolable grammatical rule unless you are in a very particular context.
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This depends on how formal you wish to be. By the content it sounds like you wish to be relatively formal.
The construction ''to identify'' is an infinitive in English. Traditional orthodoxy has it that infinitives should not be split, which is to say that no adverb should be interposed between ''to'' and the verb form (in this case ``identify''). If you are concerned about grammatical niceties it's probably best to be on the safe side and to go with your first formulation ''also to identify''. That is also the sentence that rings more naturally to my ears.
However, the prohibition on split infinitives doesn't always follow oral usage and there are contexts where it will read better to split the infinitive. My own preference would generally be to split the infinitive here if the only alternative sounds forced or unnatural. That said, when I'm writing formal papers I will generally look for a work-around rather as far as possible in preference to infinitive-splitting.
In your example ''but to also identify the properties of the dishes'' not only splits the infinitive but seems awkward to me, so I would strongly recommend the first sentence. The key is that, in my opinion, this is not an inviolable grammatical rule unless you are in a very particular context.
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Phonetically, but also to is much easier than but to also, because you've got two vowels together in the last one, while every syllable in the first one has a consonant on either side. That makes it trip off the tongue more easily, without any ugly gloʔʔal stops.
– John Lawler
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Phonetically, but also to is much easier than but to also, because you've got two vowels together in the last one, while every syllable in the first one has a consonant on either side. That makes it trip off the tongue more easily, without any ugly gloʔʔal stops.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
1
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Phonetically, but also to is much easier than but to also, because you've got two vowels together in the last one, while every syllable in the first one has a consonant on either side. That makes it trip off the tongue more easily, without any ugly gloʔʔal stops.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
Phonetically, but also to is much easier than but to also, because you've got two vowels together in the last one, while every syllable in the first one has a consonant on either side. That makes it trip off the tongue more easily, without any ugly gloʔʔal stops.
– John Lawler
5 hours ago
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i know you didn't ask this, but the "that" is unnecessary.
– mike65535
7 hours ago
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Pedants used to object to the Star Trek introduction ... "to boldly go where no man has gone before". Eventually they changed "no man" to "no one". But they didn't get rid of the split infinitive.
– GEdgar
6 hours ago