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Did Apple bundle a specific monitor with the Apple II+ for schools?


Apple // screen editingWhat was this Apple external CRT monitor that looked like an iMac G3?Interfacing with vintage Canon monitorWhich home-retrocomputers had a 1 single-color( no shades ) monochrome mode, or were by default?Fixing the horizontal size(width) of an old CRT monitor (Zenith ZCM 1390-E)How did the BBC Micro stay cool?Recent article about using Apple II for security purposesTrying to identify an Apple II space trading gameWhy did the original Apple //e have two sets of inverse video characters?How did the Zip Chip and RocketChip accelerators work for the Apple II?













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Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased its first batch of Apple II+ computers. I remember vividly they had absolutely no idea what to do with them, and so the machines were placed in what had been the typing lab - one day we were learning touch typing on IBM electric typewriters and the next day we were looking at a blinking cursor.



The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor. The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige. As I remember it, the back of the monitor was greyish, possibly with controls for horizontal hold and vertical hold (although I am not sure of that anymore). The monitor may have had a handle on the top, but again I am uncertain.



I have no other details to go on except the image in my memory of what these systems looked like.



I am trying to identify the monitor and thought that maybe Apple (before offering it's own line of monitors) might have picked a specific 3rd party monitor and bundled it with the computers when selling to schools.



Can anyone offer any insight into what make/model/manufacture this monitor might have been?



Edit



As always, the responses here on Retro are awesome - thanks everyone! - the Sanyo VM4209 and VM4509 are both very similar to my recollection, but I don't think either of them is the display I am remembering (although I will admit after 30 years I might have confused some details).










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  • I too recall a similar-sounding monitor used with the Apple IIs in my school in 1981-82. The VM4209 also at least resmbles the display we used. My first reaction was that it was different, but at this pont I've decided I really can't remember.

    – Curt J. Sampson
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Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased its first batch of Apple II+ computers. I remember vividly they had absolutely no idea what to do with them, and so the machines were placed in what had been the typing lab - one day we were learning touch typing on IBM electric typewriters and the next day we were looking at a blinking cursor.



The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor. The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige. As I remember it, the back of the monitor was greyish, possibly with controls for horizontal hold and vertical hold (although I am not sure of that anymore). The monitor may have had a handle on the top, but again I am uncertain.



I have no other details to go on except the image in my memory of what these systems looked like.



I am trying to identify the monitor and thought that maybe Apple (before offering it's own line of monitors) might have picked a specific 3rd party monitor and bundled it with the computers when selling to schools.



Can anyone offer any insight into what make/model/manufacture this monitor might have been?



Edit



As always, the responses here on Retro are awesome - thanks everyone! - the Sanyo VM4209 and VM4509 are both very similar to my recollection, but I don't think either of them is the display I am remembering (although I will admit after 30 years I might have confused some details).










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  • I too recall a similar-sounding monitor used with the Apple IIs in my school in 1981-82. The VM4209 also at least resmbles the display we used. My first reaction was that it was different, but at this pont I've decided I really can't remember.

    – Curt J. Sampson
    2 hours ago













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Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased its first batch of Apple II+ computers. I remember vividly they had absolutely no idea what to do with them, and so the machines were placed in what had been the typing lab - one day we were learning touch typing on IBM electric typewriters and the next day we were looking at a blinking cursor.



The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor. The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige. As I remember it, the back of the monitor was greyish, possibly with controls for horizontal hold and vertical hold (although I am not sure of that anymore). The monitor may have had a handle on the top, but again I am uncertain.



I have no other details to go on except the image in my memory of what these systems looked like.



I am trying to identify the monitor and thought that maybe Apple (before offering it's own line of monitors) might have picked a specific 3rd party monitor and bundled it with the computers when selling to schools.



Can anyone offer any insight into what make/model/manufacture this monitor might have been?



Edit



As always, the responses here on Retro are awesome - thanks everyone! - the Sanyo VM4209 and VM4509 are both very similar to my recollection, but I don't think either of them is the display I am remembering (although I will admit after 30 years I might have confused some details).










share|improve this question
















Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased its first batch of Apple II+ computers. I remember vividly they had absolutely no idea what to do with them, and so the machines were placed in what had been the typing lab - one day we were learning touch typing on IBM electric typewriters and the next day we were looking at a blinking cursor.



The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor. The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige. As I remember it, the back of the monitor was greyish, possibly with controls for horizontal hold and vertical hold (although I am not sure of that anymore). The monitor may have had a handle on the top, but again I am uncertain.



I have no other details to go on except the image in my memory of what these systems looked like.



I am trying to identify the monitor and thought that maybe Apple (before offering it's own line of monitors) might have picked a specific 3rd party monitor and bundled it with the computers when selling to schools.



Can anyone offer any insight into what make/model/manufacture this monitor might have been?



Edit



As always, the responses here on Retro are awesome - thanks everyone! - the Sanyo VM4209 and VM4509 are both very similar to my recollection, but I don't think either of them is the display I am remembering (although I will admit after 30 years I might have confused some details).







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  • I too recall a similar-sounding monitor used with the Apple IIs in my school in 1981-82. The VM4209 also at least resmbles the display we used. My first reaction was that it was different, but at this pont I've decided I really can't remember.

    – Curt J. Sampson
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  • I too recall a similar-sounding monitor used with the Apple IIs in my school in 1981-82. The VM4209 also at least resmbles the display we used. My first reaction was that it was different, but at this pont I've decided I really can't remember.

    – Curt J. Sampson
    2 hours ago
















I too recall a similar-sounding monitor used with the Apple IIs in my school in 1981-82. The VM4209 also at least resmbles the display we used. My first reaction was that it was different, but at this pont I've decided I really can't remember.

– Curt J. Sampson
2 hours ago





I too recall a similar-sounding monitor used with the Apple IIs in my school in 1981-82. The VM4209 also at least resmbles the display we used. My first reaction was that it was different, but at this pont I've decided I really can't remember.

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Here's a Sanyo VM-4209 in a 1977 Apple II advertisement. It has a black handle on top (the VM-4509/DM 5109CX has a beige colored recessed handle):



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And another photo to show the color of the case better:



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  • Except that model was already replaced by the one with the lid over the controls by 1980.

    – Raffzahn
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Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased it's first batch of Apple II+ computers. The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor.




The only monitor Apple sold with the II in 1980/81 was the Apple III Monitor. A perfect fit for the II base. Much later, in 1984, the Monitor II was introduced. Designed to match the IIe.




The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige.




That doesn't sound like any Apple monitor at all. So it's safe to assume it was some generic third party device.



Bell & Howell Apples (The Black Apple) where often sold with a 9" Sanyo B&W screen B&H also offered. It had rather cube like dimensions, with a black front, otherwise grey metal. Controls where hidden behind a horizontal door on the front.






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  • I think you're referring to this monitor: macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html It's difficult to tell the color from the photos but it could be greyish blue.

    – snips-n-snails
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  • Here's another photo of that Sanyo VM-4509: si.edu/newsdesk/photos/apple-ii-computer

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  • @snips-n-snails Yeah, looks exactly like the one I had in mind.

    – Raffzahn
    5 hours ago


















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You are not alone, as I have the same memory. Very "cube-looking" 9-inch monitors were a common peripheral for the Apple ][/][ Plus. You will find many pictures online of this setup, and may even be lucky enough to find the canonical Sanyo monitor (Model VM4209) for sale. (Smell the RAREity!)



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    Here's a Sanyo VM-4209 in a 1977 Apple II advertisement. It has a black handle on top (the VM-4509/DM 5109CX has a beige colored recessed handle):



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    And another photo to show the color of the case better:



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    • Except that model was already replaced by the one with the lid over the controls by 1980.

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    Here's a Sanyo VM-4209 in a 1977 Apple II advertisement. It has a black handle on top (the VM-4509/DM 5109CX has a beige colored recessed handle):



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    And another photo to show the color of the case better:



    Closeup photo






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    • Except that model was already replaced by the one with the lid over the controls by 1980.

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    Here's a Sanyo VM-4209 in a 1977 Apple II advertisement. It has a black handle on top (the VM-4509/DM 5109CX has a beige colored recessed handle):



    1977 Apple II advertisement



    And another photo to show the color of the case better:



    Closeup photo






    share|improve this answer















    Here's a Sanyo VM-4209 in a 1977 Apple II advertisement. It has a black handle on top (the VM-4509/DM 5109CX has a beige colored recessed handle):



    1977 Apple II advertisement



    And another photo to show the color of the case better:



    Closeup photo







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    • Except that model was already replaced by the one with the lid over the controls by 1980.

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    Except that model was already replaced by the one with the lid over the controls by 1980.

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    Except that model was already replaced by the one with the lid over the controls by 1980.

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    Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased it's first batch of Apple II+ computers. The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor.




    The only monitor Apple sold with the II in 1980/81 was the Apple III Monitor. A perfect fit for the II base. Much later, in 1984, the Monitor II was introduced. Designed to match the IIe.




    The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige.




    That doesn't sound like any Apple monitor at all. So it's safe to assume it was some generic third party device.



    Bell & Howell Apples (The Black Apple) where often sold with a 9" Sanyo B&W screen B&H also offered. It had rather cube like dimensions, with a black front, otherwise grey metal. Controls where hidden behind a horizontal door on the front.






    share|improve this answer

























    • I think you're referring to this monitor: macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html It's difficult to tell the color from the photos but it could be greyish blue.

      – snips-n-snails
      7 hours ago











    • Here's another photo of that Sanyo VM-4509: si.edu/newsdesk/photos/apple-ii-computer

      – snips-n-snails
      6 hours ago












    • @snips-n-snails Yeah, looks exactly like the one I had in mind.

      – Raffzahn
      5 hours ago















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    Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased it's first batch of Apple II+ computers. The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor.




    The only monitor Apple sold with the II in 1980/81 was the Apple III Monitor. A perfect fit for the II base. Much later, in 1984, the Monitor II was introduced. Designed to match the IIe.




    The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige.




    That doesn't sound like any Apple monitor at all. So it's safe to assume it was some generic third party device.



    Bell & Howell Apples (The Black Apple) where often sold with a 9" Sanyo B&W screen B&H also offered. It had rather cube like dimensions, with a black front, otherwise grey metal. Controls where hidden behind a horizontal door on the front.






    share|improve this answer

























    • I think you're referring to this monitor: macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html It's difficult to tell the color from the photos but it could be greyish blue.

      – snips-n-snails
      7 hours ago











    • Here's another photo of that Sanyo VM-4509: si.edu/newsdesk/photos/apple-ii-computer

      – snips-n-snails
      6 hours ago












    • @snips-n-snails Yeah, looks exactly like the one I had in mind.

      – Raffzahn
      5 hours ago













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    Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased it's first batch of Apple II+ computers. The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor.




    The only monitor Apple sold with the II in 1980/81 was the Apple III Monitor. A perfect fit for the II base. Much later, in 1984, the Monitor II was introduced. Designed to match the IIe.




    The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige.




    That doesn't sound like any Apple monitor at all. So it's safe to assume it was some generic third party device.



    Bell & Howell Apples (The Black Apple) where often sold with a 9" Sanyo B&W screen B&H also offered. It had rather cube like dimensions, with a black front, otherwise grey metal. Controls where hidden behind a horizontal door on the front.






    share|improve this answer
















    Sometime in 1980 (or maybe 1981) my school district purchased it's first batch of Apple II+ computers. The hardware our specific school district purchased consisted of Apple II+ computers, each with a single floppy disk drive and a small (maybe 8") black and white monitor.




    The only monitor Apple sold with the II in 1980/81 was the Apple III Monitor. A perfect fit for the II base. Much later, in 1984, the Monitor II was introduced. Designed to match the IIe.




    The monitor was almost a perfect cube with a metal case (painted grey-ish blue) and was mounted on two 1" wide rectangular strips of metal painted Apple beige.




    That doesn't sound like any Apple monitor at all. So it's safe to assume it was some generic third party device.



    Bell & Howell Apples (The Black Apple) where often sold with a 9" Sanyo B&W screen B&H also offered. It had rather cube like dimensions, with a black front, otherwise grey metal. Controls where hidden behind a horizontal door on the front.







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    • I think you're referring to this monitor: macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html It's difficult to tell the color from the photos but it could be greyish blue.

      – snips-n-snails
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    • Here's another photo of that Sanyo VM-4509: si.edu/newsdesk/photos/apple-ii-computer

      – snips-n-snails
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    • @snips-n-snails Yeah, looks exactly like the one I had in mind.

      – Raffzahn
      5 hours ago

















    • I think you're referring to this monitor: macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html It's difficult to tell the color from the photos but it could be greyish blue.

      – snips-n-snails
      7 hours ago











    • Here's another photo of that Sanyo VM-4509: si.edu/newsdesk/photos/apple-ii-computer

      – snips-n-snails
      6 hours ago












    • @snips-n-snails Yeah, looks exactly like the one I had in mind.

      – Raffzahn
      5 hours ago
















    I think you're referring to this monitor: macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html It's difficult to tell the color from the photos but it could be greyish blue.

    – snips-n-snails
    7 hours ago





    I think you're referring to this monitor: macgeek.org/museum/bhapple2plus/page02.html It's difficult to tell the color from the photos but it could be greyish blue.

    – snips-n-snails
    7 hours ago













    Here's another photo of that Sanyo VM-4509: si.edu/newsdesk/photos/apple-ii-computer

    – snips-n-snails
    6 hours ago






    Here's another photo of that Sanyo VM-4509: si.edu/newsdesk/photos/apple-ii-computer

    – snips-n-snails
    6 hours ago














    @snips-n-snails Yeah, looks exactly like the one I had in mind.

    – Raffzahn
    5 hours ago





    @snips-n-snails Yeah, looks exactly like the one I had in mind.

    – Raffzahn
    5 hours ago











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    You are not alone, as I have the same memory. Very "cube-looking" 9-inch monitors were a common peripheral for the Apple ][/][ Plus. You will find many pictures online of this setup, and may even be lucky enough to find the canonical Sanyo monitor (Model VM4209) for sale. (Smell the RAREity!)



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      You are not alone, as I have the same memory. Very "cube-looking" 9-inch monitors were a common peripheral for the Apple ][/][ Plus. You will find many pictures online of this setup, and may even be lucky enough to find the canonical Sanyo monitor (Model VM4209) for sale. (Smell the RAREity!)



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        You are not alone, as I have the same memory. Very "cube-looking" 9-inch monitors were a common peripheral for the Apple ][/][ Plus. You will find many pictures online of this setup, and may even be lucky enough to find the canonical Sanyo monitor (Model VM4209) for sale. (Smell the RAREity!)



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        You are not alone, as I have the same memory. Very "cube-looking" 9-inch monitors were a common peripheral for the Apple ][/][ Plus. You will find many pictures online of this setup, and may even be lucky enough to find the canonical Sanyo monitor (Model VM4209) for sale. (Smell the RAREity!)



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