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Is there any set of 2-6 notes that doesn't have a chord name?
A chord is three notes? What do you call just two notes?What is the full list of possible chord names? Are there chords that don't have a name in chord theory?why major chords only have 1-3-5 notes why not other notes?Is there an easier way to remember the notes in 11th and 13th chords?What are the rules of borrowing notes from other scales if any?Is there any system of naming chords that uses the chromatic scale?What (if any) is the difference between m6 and half-diminished chord shapes?What is the name of the scale containing A, Bb, C#, D, E, F?Are there any pre-20th century examples of an augmented 6th chord with a leading tone?Does any set of notes qualify as a chord?What do we call a chord progression that doesn't have a tonic chord?
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Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord? Can anyone give me an example and explanation if so?
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Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord? Can anyone give me an example and explanation if so?
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A chord is simply several notes played simultaneously. The combination of said notes doesn't have to sound good, but obviously is better when it does! Just about any combination will be a chord that can be named, but there comes a point where the name is so unwieldy that it gets ridiculous, and ceases to be anything sensible. Imagine C, C#, D, D#, E and F being played together, each a semitone apart. Even split by an octave or so wouldn't help much. A chord, yes, but a good sound? And, what name should it have? Or, are you looking for the lost chord..?
– Tim
8 hours ago
I'm no chord naming aficionado but I might call that your classic Cmajno5add4addb3add2addb2 chord. But as for the reason for my inquiry, I was calculating the total possible chord combinations on a 22 fret 6 string guitar just for fun and had been working under the assumption that any combination of between 2 and 6 notes could be classified as a chord. ( It came out to be over 6 trillion and for many of them you might have to get your toes involved )
– Ethan Richardson
8 hours ago
Why 6 chromatic notes? What does this have to do with making a chord? The 13th chord has 7 diatonic notes (and each diatonic is on the chromatic scale). So this is a confusing question as worded.
– ggcg
5 hours ago
@Todd Wilcox - somebody edited my original title, that's not how I had phrased it. the original question was is there any combination of between 2 and 6 notes on the chromatic scale that can't be classified and named as a chord.
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
@ggcg - because it's a question about guitar. guitars have 6 strings and therefor have a maximum of 6 notes that can be played at once
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Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord? Can anyone give me an example and explanation if so?
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Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord? Can anyone give me an example and explanation if so?
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A chord is simply several notes played simultaneously. The combination of said notes doesn't have to sound good, but obviously is better when it does! Just about any combination will be a chord that can be named, but there comes a point where the name is so unwieldy that it gets ridiculous, and ceases to be anything sensible. Imagine C, C#, D, D#, E and F being played together, each a semitone apart. Even split by an octave or so wouldn't help much. A chord, yes, but a good sound? And, what name should it have? Or, are you looking for the lost chord..?
– Tim
8 hours ago
I'm no chord naming aficionado but I might call that your classic Cmajno5add4addb3add2addb2 chord. But as for the reason for my inquiry, I was calculating the total possible chord combinations on a 22 fret 6 string guitar just for fun and had been working under the assumption that any combination of between 2 and 6 notes could be classified as a chord. ( It came out to be over 6 trillion and for many of them you might have to get your toes involved )
– Ethan Richardson
8 hours ago
Why 6 chromatic notes? What does this have to do with making a chord? The 13th chord has 7 diatonic notes (and each diatonic is on the chromatic scale). So this is a confusing question as worded.
– ggcg
5 hours ago
@Todd Wilcox - somebody edited my original title, that's not how I had phrased it. the original question was is there any combination of between 2 and 6 notes on the chromatic scale that can't be classified and named as a chord.
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
@ggcg - because it's a question about guitar. guitars have 6 strings and therefor have a maximum of 6 notes that can be played at once
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
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A chord is simply several notes played simultaneously. The combination of said notes doesn't have to sound good, but obviously is better when it does! Just about any combination will be a chord that can be named, but there comes a point where the name is so unwieldy that it gets ridiculous, and ceases to be anything sensible. Imagine C, C#, D, D#, E and F being played together, each a semitone apart. Even split by an octave or so wouldn't help much. A chord, yes, but a good sound? And, what name should it have? Or, are you looking for the lost chord..?
– Tim
8 hours ago
I'm no chord naming aficionado but I might call that your classic Cmajno5add4addb3add2addb2 chord. But as for the reason for my inquiry, I was calculating the total possible chord combinations on a 22 fret 6 string guitar just for fun and had been working under the assumption that any combination of between 2 and 6 notes could be classified as a chord. ( It came out to be over 6 trillion and for many of them you might have to get your toes involved )
– Ethan Richardson
8 hours ago
Why 6 chromatic notes? What does this have to do with making a chord? The 13th chord has 7 diatonic notes (and each diatonic is on the chromatic scale). So this is a confusing question as worded.
– ggcg
5 hours ago
@Todd Wilcox - somebody edited my original title, that's not how I had phrased it. the original question was is there any combination of between 2 and 6 notes on the chromatic scale that can't be classified and named as a chord.
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
@ggcg - because it's a question about guitar. guitars have 6 strings and therefor have a maximum of 6 notes that can be played at once
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
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A chord is simply several notes played simultaneously. The combination of said notes doesn't have to sound good, but obviously is better when it does! Just about any combination will be a chord that can be named, but there comes a point where the name is so unwieldy that it gets ridiculous, and ceases to be anything sensible. Imagine C, C#, D, D#, E and F being played together, each a semitone apart. Even split by an octave or so wouldn't help much. A chord, yes, but a good sound? And, what name should it have? Or, are you looking for the lost chord..?
– Tim
8 hours ago
A chord is simply several notes played simultaneously. The combination of said notes doesn't have to sound good, but obviously is better when it does! Just about any combination will be a chord that can be named, but there comes a point where the name is so unwieldy that it gets ridiculous, and ceases to be anything sensible. Imagine C, C#, D, D#, E and F being played together, each a semitone apart. Even split by an octave or so wouldn't help much. A chord, yes, but a good sound? And, what name should it have? Or, are you looking for the lost chord..?
– Tim
8 hours ago
I'm no chord naming aficionado but I might call that your classic Cmajno5add4addb3add2addb2 chord. But as for the reason for my inquiry, I was calculating the total possible chord combinations on a 22 fret 6 string guitar just for fun and had been working under the assumption that any combination of between 2 and 6 notes could be classified as a chord. ( It came out to be over 6 trillion and for many of them you might have to get your toes involved )
– Ethan Richardson
8 hours ago
I'm no chord naming aficionado but I might call that your classic Cmajno5add4addb3add2addb2 chord. But as for the reason for my inquiry, I was calculating the total possible chord combinations on a 22 fret 6 string guitar just for fun and had been working under the assumption that any combination of between 2 and 6 notes could be classified as a chord. ( It came out to be over 6 trillion and for many of them you might have to get your toes involved )
– Ethan Richardson
8 hours ago
Why 6 chromatic notes? What does this have to do with making a chord? The 13th chord has 7 diatonic notes (and each diatonic is on the chromatic scale). So this is a confusing question as worded.
– ggcg
5 hours ago
Why 6 chromatic notes? What does this have to do with making a chord? The 13th chord has 7 diatonic notes (and each diatonic is on the chromatic scale). So this is a confusing question as worded.
– ggcg
5 hours ago
@Todd Wilcox - somebody edited my original title, that's not how I had phrased it. the original question was is there any combination of between 2 and 6 notes on the chromatic scale that can't be classified and named as a chord.
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
@Todd Wilcox - somebody edited my original title, that's not how I had phrased it. the original question was is there any combination of between 2 and 6 notes on the chromatic scale that can't be classified and named as a chord.
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
@ggcg - because it's a question about guitar. guitars have 6 strings and therefor have a maximum of 6 notes that can be played at once
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
@ggcg - because it's a question about guitar. guitars have 6 strings and therefor have a maximum of 6 notes that can be played at once
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
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No, and for at least three reasons:
Assuming "chord" to be a tonal entity, we can explain anything as having alterations, omissions, and extensions. With add11, ♭13, no5, etc., we can make sense of any combination of tones.
We can understand harmonies as combinations of chords; such polychords allow any and all possibilities.
And furthermore, we have systems of understanding "chord" that do not assume tonality. Pitch-class set analysis is perhaps the most common, in which case we assign integers to members of a harmony. No matter how wild of a chord you come up with, there is a pitch-class set label for it.
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Interesting question. I would submit that if we take chord theory and apply it to pitches either above or below the ranges of human hearing that the resultant Chords would no longer exist simply because we can't hear them and therefore they would never be played. My thinking is that music isn't really music until it's being played, but that's just my own thoughts on the matter.
youtu.be/JTEFKFiXSx4
– b3ko
6 hours ago
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Is there a chord that doesn't exist?
Essentially, no - see Richard's answer.
Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord?
Well, if you bring naming and classification into it, You could consider that groups/sets of 1 or 2 notes aren't named 'chords' as such - though of course you might consider fewer than 2 not to be a combination: A chord is three notes? What do you call just two notes? .
'Groups of 1 or 2 notes'? A group of one? Interesting concept...
– Tim
7 hours ago
@Tim I thought that avoiding the notion of a group of zero would be enough to avoid controversy! I've edited slightly as OP specified 'combination' - though thinking in terms of mathematical sets, I guess you can have sets and combinations that are 0 or 1 in size.
– topo morto
7 hours ago
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I were only jesting! However, I really like chords with a group of zero notes when playing with specific guitarists.
– Tim
7 hours ago
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Depends on your definitions. There are certainly pitch sets that would be difficult (and pointless) to label in the 'C, Gm7, F#m7(b5)(b9)' naming system, or that defy functional analysis in the 'bii7 of iii' way. But some will say that ANY pitch set is, by definition, a chord. And, as @Richard says, any pitch-class set can be labelled.
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No, and for at least three reasons:
Assuming "chord" to be a tonal entity, we can explain anything as having alterations, omissions, and extensions. With add11, ♭13, no5, etc., we can make sense of any combination of tones.
We can understand harmonies as combinations of chords; such polychords allow any and all possibilities.
And furthermore, we have systems of understanding "chord" that do not assume tonality. Pitch-class set analysis is perhaps the most common, in which case we assign integers to members of a harmony. No matter how wild of a chord you come up with, there is a pitch-class set label for it.
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No, and for at least three reasons:
Assuming "chord" to be a tonal entity, we can explain anything as having alterations, omissions, and extensions. With add11, ♭13, no5, etc., we can make sense of any combination of tones.
We can understand harmonies as combinations of chords; such polychords allow any and all possibilities.
And furthermore, we have systems of understanding "chord" that do not assume tonality. Pitch-class set analysis is perhaps the most common, in which case we assign integers to members of a harmony. No matter how wild of a chord you come up with, there is a pitch-class set label for it.
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No, and for at least three reasons:
Assuming "chord" to be a tonal entity, we can explain anything as having alterations, omissions, and extensions. With add11, ♭13, no5, etc., we can make sense of any combination of tones.
We can understand harmonies as combinations of chords; such polychords allow any and all possibilities.
And furthermore, we have systems of understanding "chord" that do not assume tonality. Pitch-class set analysis is perhaps the most common, in which case we assign integers to members of a harmony. No matter how wild of a chord you come up with, there is a pitch-class set label for it.
No, and for at least three reasons:
Assuming "chord" to be a tonal entity, we can explain anything as having alterations, omissions, and extensions. With add11, ♭13, no5, etc., we can make sense of any combination of tones.
We can understand harmonies as combinations of chords; such polychords allow any and all possibilities.
And furthermore, we have systems of understanding "chord" that do not assume tonality. Pitch-class set analysis is perhaps the most common, in which case we assign integers to members of a harmony. No matter how wild of a chord you come up with, there is a pitch-class set label for it.
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Interesting question. I would submit that if we take chord theory and apply it to pitches either above or below the ranges of human hearing that the resultant Chords would no longer exist simply because we can't hear them and therefore they would never be played. My thinking is that music isn't really music until it's being played, but that's just my own thoughts on the matter.
youtu.be/JTEFKFiXSx4
– b3ko
6 hours ago
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Interesting question. I would submit that if we take chord theory and apply it to pitches either above or below the ranges of human hearing that the resultant Chords would no longer exist simply because we can't hear them and therefore they would never be played. My thinking is that music isn't really music until it's being played, but that's just my own thoughts on the matter.
youtu.be/JTEFKFiXSx4
– b3ko
6 hours ago
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Interesting question. I would submit that if we take chord theory and apply it to pitches either above or below the ranges of human hearing that the resultant Chords would no longer exist simply because we can't hear them and therefore they would never be played. My thinking is that music isn't really music until it's being played, but that's just my own thoughts on the matter.
Interesting question. I would submit that if we take chord theory and apply it to pitches either above or below the ranges of human hearing that the resultant Chords would no longer exist simply because we can't hear them and therefore they would never be played. My thinking is that music isn't really music until it's being played, but that's just my own thoughts on the matter.
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Is there a chord that doesn't exist?
Essentially, no - see Richard's answer.
Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord?
Well, if you bring naming and classification into it, You could consider that groups/sets of 1 or 2 notes aren't named 'chords' as such - though of course you might consider fewer than 2 not to be a combination: A chord is three notes? What do you call just two notes? .
'Groups of 1 or 2 notes'? A group of one? Interesting concept...
– Tim
7 hours ago
@Tim I thought that avoiding the notion of a group of zero would be enough to avoid controversy! I've edited slightly as OP specified 'combination' - though thinking in terms of mathematical sets, I guess you can have sets and combinations that are 0 or 1 in size.
– topo morto
7 hours ago
1
I were only jesting! However, I really like chords with a group of zero notes when playing with specific guitarists.
– Tim
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Is there a chord that doesn't exist?
Essentially, no - see Richard's answer.
Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord?
Well, if you bring naming and classification into it, You could consider that groups/sets of 1 or 2 notes aren't named 'chords' as such - though of course you might consider fewer than 2 not to be a combination: A chord is three notes? What do you call just two notes? .
'Groups of 1 or 2 notes'? A group of one? Interesting concept...
– Tim
7 hours ago
@Tim I thought that avoiding the notion of a group of zero would be enough to avoid controversy! I've edited slightly as OP specified 'combination' - though thinking in terms of mathematical sets, I guess you can have sets and combinations that are 0 or 1 in size.
– topo morto
7 hours ago
1
I were only jesting! However, I really like chords with a group of zero notes when playing with specific guitarists.
– Tim
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Is there a chord that doesn't exist?
Essentially, no - see Richard's answer.
Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord?
Well, if you bring naming and classification into it, You could consider that groups/sets of 1 or 2 notes aren't named 'chords' as such - though of course you might consider fewer than 2 not to be a combination: A chord is three notes? What do you call just two notes? .
Is there a chord that doesn't exist?
Essentially, no - see Richard's answer.
Is there any combination of up to six chromatic notes that could not be classified and named as a chord?
Well, if you bring naming and classification into it, You could consider that groups/sets of 1 or 2 notes aren't named 'chords' as such - though of course you might consider fewer than 2 not to be a combination: A chord is three notes? What do you call just two notes? .
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'Groups of 1 or 2 notes'? A group of one? Interesting concept...
– Tim
7 hours ago
@Tim I thought that avoiding the notion of a group of zero would be enough to avoid controversy! I've edited slightly as OP specified 'combination' - though thinking in terms of mathematical sets, I guess you can have sets and combinations that are 0 or 1 in size.
– topo morto
7 hours ago
1
I were only jesting! However, I really like chords with a group of zero notes when playing with specific guitarists.
– Tim
7 hours ago
add a comment |
'Groups of 1 or 2 notes'? A group of one? Interesting concept...
– Tim
7 hours ago
@Tim I thought that avoiding the notion of a group of zero would be enough to avoid controversy! I've edited slightly as OP specified 'combination' - though thinking in terms of mathematical sets, I guess you can have sets and combinations that are 0 or 1 in size.
– topo morto
7 hours ago
1
I were only jesting! However, I really like chords with a group of zero notes when playing with specific guitarists.
– Tim
7 hours ago
'Groups of 1 or 2 notes'? A group of one? Interesting concept...
– Tim
7 hours ago
'Groups of 1 or 2 notes'? A group of one? Interesting concept...
– Tim
7 hours ago
@Tim I thought that avoiding the notion of a group of zero would be enough to avoid controversy! I've edited slightly as OP specified 'combination' - though thinking in terms of mathematical sets, I guess you can have sets and combinations that are 0 or 1 in size.
– topo morto
7 hours ago
@Tim I thought that avoiding the notion of a group of zero would be enough to avoid controversy! I've edited slightly as OP specified 'combination' - though thinking in terms of mathematical sets, I guess you can have sets and combinations that are 0 or 1 in size.
– topo morto
7 hours ago
1
1
I were only jesting! However, I really like chords with a group of zero notes when playing with specific guitarists.
– Tim
7 hours ago
I were only jesting! However, I really like chords with a group of zero notes when playing with specific guitarists.
– Tim
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Depends on your definitions. There are certainly pitch sets that would be difficult (and pointless) to label in the 'C, Gm7, F#m7(b5)(b9)' naming system, or that defy functional analysis in the 'bii7 of iii' way. But some will say that ANY pitch set is, by definition, a chord. And, as @Richard says, any pitch-class set can be labelled.
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Depends on your definitions. There are certainly pitch sets that would be difficult (and pointless) to label in the 'C, Gm7, F#m7(b5)(b9)' naming system, or that defy functional analysis in the 'bii7 of iii' way. But some will say that ANY pitch set is, by definition, a chord. And, as @Richard says, any pitch-class set can be labelled.
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Depends on your definitions. There are certainly pitch sets that would be difficult (and pointless) to label in the 'C, Gm7, F#m7(b5)(b9)' naming system, or that defy functional analysis in the 'bii7 of iii' way. But some will say that ANY pitch set is, by definition, a chord. And, as @Richard says, any pitch-class set can be labelled.
Depends on your definitions. There are certainly pitch sets that would be difficult (and pointless) to label in the 'C, Gm7, F#m7(b5)(b9)' naming system, or that defy functional analysis in the 'bii7 of iii' way. But some will say that ANY pitch set is, by definition, a chord. And, as @Richard says, any pitch-class set can be labelled.
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A chord is simply several notes played simultaneously. The combination of said notes doesn't have to sound good, but obviously is better when it does! Just about any combination will be a chord that can be named, but there comes a point where the name is so unwieldy that it gets ridiculous, and ceases to be anything sensible. Imagine C, C#, D, D#, E and F being played together, each a semitone apart. Even split by an octave or so wouldn't help much. A chord, yes, but a good sound? And, what name should it have? Or, are you looking for the lost chord..?
– Tim
8 hours ago
I'm no chord naming aficionado but I might call that your classic Cmajno5add4addb3add2addb2 chord. But as for the reason for my inquiry, I was calculating the total possible chord combinations on a 22 fret 6 string guitar just for fun and had been working under the assumption that any combination of between 2 and 6 notes could be classified as a chord. ( It came out to be over 6 trillion and for many of them you might have to get your toes involved )
– Ethan Richardson
8 hours ago
Why 6 chromatic notes? What does this have to do with making a chord? The 13th chord has 7 diatonic notes (and each diatonic is on the chromatic scale). So this is a confusing question as worded.
– ggcg
5 hours ago
@Todd Wilcox - somebody edited my original title, that's not how I had phrased it. the original question was is there any combination of between 2 and 6 notes on the chromatic scale that can't be classified and named as a chord.
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago
@ggcg - because it's a question about guitar. guitars have 6 strings and therefor have a maximum of 6 notes that can be played at once
– Ethan Richardson
2 hours ago