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Is there any evidence that the small canisters (10 liters) of 95% oxygen actually help with altitude sickness?


Acclimitization: Would 20 min at an “oxygen bar” deliver more than an ephermal boost to a healthy person?Can you pre-identify the risk of severe Altitude sickness?Is there evidence to support or refute the hypothesis that frequent trips to high altitude aid acclimatization?






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In Colorado outdoor stores its not uncommon to see these small canisters of 95% percent oxygen that's sold to help people cope with high altitude.



Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness? I mean plenty of places still sell the Sawyer Venom extractor kits and there is no evidence those work.










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  • You can find evidence if you look at the various treatment methods used by medical professionals. Virtually all of them include either directly (e.g. application of supplemental O2 or drugs that increase breathing rate) or indirectly (remove patient to lower altitude) increasing the oxygen saturation of the patient's' body. The cerebral and pulmonary edema common with altitude sickness is caused by lower oxygen levels than what the patient has been acclimated to...

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  • @JimmyFix-it Human lungs are about 6 liters and each breath is around 0.5 liters. The cans hold 10 liters.

    – Charlie Brumbaugh
    6 hours ago











  • So knowing that O2 will help, the question is related to the minimal amount (~20 breaths) of therapy available in these small OTC canisters... got it.

    – Jimmy Fix-it
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  • @Charlie Brumbaugh - For what is worth, recently in a medical setting I learned a bit about supplemental oxygen, not sure how that translates to altitude related uses, but; for most people on O2 a typical amount would be 2-4 liters / hour. In more extreme medically monitored cases, use could be up to 10-14 liters / hour.

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    @renesis; no, emergency responders (EMTs) in the US typically administer O2 via mask at 15 liters per minute. A severe case of altitude sickness (resulting in altered consciousness or other tangible life-threatening symptoms) would be treated that way.

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In Colorado outdoor stores its not uncommon to see these small canisters of 95% percent oxygen that's sold to help people cope with high altitude.



Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness? I mean plenty of places still sell the Sawyer Venom extractor kits and there is no evidence those work.










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  • You can find evidence if you look at the various treatment methods used by medical professionals. Virtually all of them include either directly (e.g. application of supplemental O2 or drugs that increase breathing rate) or indirectly (remove patient to lower altitude) increasing the oxygen saturation of the patient's' body. The cerebral and pulmonary edema common with altitude sickness is caused by lower oxygen levels than what the patient has been acclimated to...

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  • @JimmyFix-it Human lungs are about 6 liters and each breath is around 0.5 liters. The cans hold 10 liters.

    – Charlie Brumbaugh
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  • So knowing that O2 will help, the question is related to the minimal amount (~20 breaths) of therapy available in these small OTC canisters... got it.

    – Jimmy Fix-it
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  • @Charlie Brumbaugh - For what is worth, recently in a medical setting I learned a bit about supplemental oxygen, not sure how that translates to altitude related uses, but; for most people on O2 a typical amount would be 2-4 liters / hour. In more extreme medically monitored cases, use could be up to 10-14 liters / hour.

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    @renesis; no, emergency responders (EMTs) in the US typically administer O2 via mask at 15 liters per minute. A severe case of altitude sickness (resulting in altered consciousness or other tangible life-threatening symptoms) would be treated that way.

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In Colorado outdoor stores its not uncommon to see these small canisters of 95% percent oxygen that's sold to help people cope with high altitude.



Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness? I mean plenty of places still sell the Sawyer Venom extractor kits and there is no evidence those work.










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In Colorado outdoor stores its not uncommon to see these small canisters of 95% percent oxygen that's sold to help people cope with high altitude.



Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness? I mean plenty of places still sell the Sawyer Venom extractor kits and there is no evidence those work.







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  • You can find evidence if you look at the various treatment methods used by medical professionals. Virtually all of them include either directly (e.g. application of supplemental O2 or drugs that increase breathing rate) or indirectly (remove patient to lower altitude) increasing the oxygen saturation of the patient's' body. The cerebral and pulmonary edema common with altitude sickness is caused by lower oxygen levels than what the patient has been acclimated to...

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  • @JimmyFix-it Human lungs are about 6 liters and each breath is around 0.5 liters. The cans hold 10 liters.

    – Charlie Brumbaugh
    6 hours ago











  • So knowing that O2 will help, the question is related to the minimal amount (~20 breaths) of therapy available in these small OTC canisters... got it.

    – Jimmy Fix-it
    6 hours ago











  • @Charlie Brumbaugh - For what is worth, recently in a medical setting I learned a bit about supplemental oxygen, not sure how that translates to altitude related uses, but; for most people on O2 a typical amount would be 2-4 liters / hour. In more extreme medically monitored cases, use could be up to 10-14 liters / hour.

    – renesis
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    @renesis; no, emergency responders (EMTs) in the US typically administer O2 via mask at 15 liters per minute. A severe case of altitude sickness (resulting in altered consciousness or other tangible life-threatening symptoms) would be treated that way.

    – Jimmy Fix-it
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  • You can find evidence if you look at the various treatment methods used by medical professionals. Virtually all of them include either directly (e.g. application of supplemental O2 or drugs that increase breathing rate) or indirectly (remove patient to lower altitude) increasing the oxygen saturation of the patient's' body. The cerebral and pulmonary edema common with altitude sickness is caused by lower oxygen levels than what the patient has been acclimated to...

    – Jimmy Fix-it
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  • @JimmyFix-it Human lungs are about 6 liters and each breath is around 0.5 liters. The cans hold 10 liters.

    – Charlie Brumbaugh
    6 hours ago











  • So knowing that O2 will help, the question is related to the minimal amount (~20 breaths) of therapy available in these small OTC canisters... got it.

    – Jimmy Fix-it
    6 hours ago











  • @Charlie Brumbaugh - For what is worth, recently in a medical setting I learned a bit about supplemental oxygen, not sure how that translates to altitude related uses, but; for most people on O2 a typical amount would be 2-4 liters / hour. In more extreme medically monitored cases, use could be up to 10-14 liters / hour.

    – renesis
    5 hours ago






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    @renesis; no, emergency responders (EMTs) in the US typically administer O2 via mask at 15 liters per minute. A severe case of altitude sickness (resulting in altered consciousness or other tangible life-threatening symptoms) would be treated that way.

    – Jimmy Fix-it
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You can find evidence if you look at the various treatment methods used by medical professionals. Virtually all of them include either directly (e.g. application of supplemental O2 or drugs that increase breathing rate) or indirectly (remove patient to lower altitude) increasing the oxygen saturation of the patient's' body. The cerebral and pulmonary edema common with altitude sickness is caused by lower oxygen levels than what the patient has been acclimated to...

– Jimmy Fix-it
6 hours ago





You can find evidence if you look at the various treatment methods used by medical professionals. Virtually all of them include either directly (e.g. application of supplemental O2 or drugs that increase breathing rate) or indirectly (remove patient to lower altitude) increasing the oxygen saturation of the patient's' body. The cerebral and pulmonary edema common with altitude sickness is caused by lower oxygen levels than what the patient has been acclimated to...

– Jimmy Fix-it
6 hours ago













@JimmyFix-it Human lungs are about 6 liters and each breath is around 0.5 liters. The cans hold 10 liters.

– Charlie Brumbaugh
6 hours ago





@JimmyFix-it Human lungs are about 6 liters and each breath is around 0.5 liters. The cans hold 10 liters.

– Charlie Brumbaugh
6 hours ago













So knowing that O2 will help, the question is related to the minimal amount (~20 breaths) of therapy available in these small OTC canisters... got it.

– Jimmy Fix-it
6 hours ago





So knowing that O2 will help, the question is related to the minimal amount (~20 breaths) of therapy available in these small OTC canisters... got it.

– Jimmy Fix-it
6 hours ago













@Charlie Brumbaugh - For what is worth, recently in a medical setting I learned a bit about supplemental oxygen, not sure how that translates to altitude related uses, but; for most people on O2 a typical amount would be 2-4 liters / hour. In more extreme medically monitored cases, use could be up to 10-14 liters / hour.

– renesis
5 hours ago





@Charlie Brumbaugh - For what is worth, recently in a medical setting I learned a bit about supplemental oxygen, not sure how that translates to altitude related uses, but; for most people on O2 a typical amount would be 2-4 liters / hour. In more extreme medically monitored cases, use could be up to 10-14 liters / hour.

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@renesis; no, emergency responders (EMTs) in the US typically administer O2 via mask at 15 liters per minute. A severe case of altitude sickness (resulting in altered consciousness or other tangible life-threatening symptoms) would be treated that way.

– Jimmy Fix-it
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@renesis; no, emergency responders (EMTs) in the US typically administer O2 via mask at 15 liters per minute. A severe case of altitude sickness (resulting in altered consciousness or other tangible life-threatening symptoms) would be treated that way.

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There is some evidence that increasing the concentration oxygen in the air breathed can help with mild symptoms of altitude sickness.



Source here looks at long-term increases in oxygen concentration at high elevation and finds benefits--whether or not the same happens with short bursts from a canister is unclear. I have heard circumstantial evidence from friends in the skiing world that a hit from the oxygen canister works pretty well for mild exhaustion after a hike at 13,000 ft or so.



Since one of the main causes of altitude sickness is the reduced partial pressure of oxygen at elevation, increasing the ratio of oxygen to other gases in the air should help a bit, to an extent. Of course, when the pressure is really low, no matter how high the concentration or O2, the partial pressure will never be enough.



I'd also add that the source in Gabriel's answer is about hyperoxia at sea level, not how to mitigate hypoxyia at elevation. Then again, Gabriel is probably right that stores carry them because they sell, not because they necessarily work.



Edit re: how many breaths is the canister "useful" for: At sea level where atmospheric pressure is 760mmHg and O2 concentration is 21% the partial pressure is about 160mmHg. By 10,000 feet, that drops to about 110mmHg. To maintain sea-level partial pressure of O2, you'd need to be breathing about 30% O2 instead of 20%, which means 1.5 times as much.



So for each 0.5L breath of 21% oxygen air at 10,000ft, you'd need to inhale an additional 0.052L of 95% oxygen to get the same inhaled partial pressures as sea level. The 10L can would give you 192 hits of this volume. This fits nearly with the 200 breaths advertised!



Obviously, at higher elevations, you'd need more oxygen, but since these are mostly sold at ski resorts where 9,000-12,000ft is the norm, the 200 advertised servings per container seems reasonable.






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    In this study from 2014 in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, the conclusion seems to be that it's no better than placebo:



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    Oxygen supplementation has often been used as an aid for athletic individuals who ascend to high altitudes before acclimatization or experience symptoms of altitude sickness. The effectiveness of oxygen supplementation in augmenting arterial blood oxygen levels [...] could have contributed to hyperoxia supplements, gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market. [...] However, the efficacy of such products is in need of evaluation. There is increasing need for additional research to determine the efficacy of such products due to the fact that hyperoxic supplements are being made available to the general public, with promises of enhancing exercise performance and recovery.




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    As was previously stated, hyperoxia supplements are gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market with a number of manufacturers supporting the use of personal oxygen cylinders to augment sports performance, and the aim of this study was to explore the efficacy of such products. The present investigation does not support the use of personal OSs for exercise performance, exercise recovery, or postexercise cognitive performance. It is important that strength and conditioning professionals are armed with accurate and relevant data when making decisions regarding the use of supplements. Given the results of this study, personal hyperoxic products do not seem to provide the desired results that would be expected from an effective ergogenic aid. Athletes, coaches, trainers, and recreational exercisers are encouraged to consider the results of this study when considering the use of similar supplements.




    I am a big skeptic of this kind of "supplement". It seems like a good way to upsell cans full of worthless product, similar to homeopathic pills.



    Usually, the reason stores carry these even if there's no proven health benefit is because there is demand, and they are harmless in themselves.






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      IANAMD but, the question is not about using supplemental oxygen to induce Hyperoxia to boost performance or in post workout conditions at normal atmospheric oxygen concentrations (normal altitudes). The question is about treating Hypoxia / altitude sickness at high altitudes. The excerpt you provided is addressing a COMPLETELY different use for supplemental oxygen.

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    • @renesis If you take the time to read the article and check the articles it references (many do show that supplemental oxygen does help treat hypoxic symptoms), it's never in the context of low-pressure personal canisters, but as medical treatments with significant equipment. This study focuses on the exact product showcased in the question.

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      Look I'm not going to argue with you, I have read the article, I do not have time to read the references. If you are saying the references indicate low pressure personal oxygen canisters are not useful for treating altitude sickness then that should be your answer. Everything else you've written is debunking their use for performance. Altitude sickness is not a lack of performance. Ergogenic = enhancing physical performance. I'm not defending their use, but this study does not evaluate them for the use in question. IE: "Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness?"

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      @renesis Thanks for distinguishing between altitude sickness and reduction in energy and performance. I have never experienced altitude sickness (e.g., nausea, trouble sleeping, headache, loss of appetite) but always experience a reduction in energy for at least several days. I don't know if sniffing O2 would have helped (See this Q. I wish more people here would not automatically assume that feeling non-energetic means one is sick.

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    While not sure about the medical backing, from personal experience I once had HAPE and my oxygen reached 62% SpO2 by the time I was at the ER. I had one of those style canisters and I think it definitely helped during the 45 min between buying it and getting to the ER. I was using it fairly constantly during that time period though not just a single air shot as you see advertised. While I can't say conclusively what my SpO2 level would have been, it possibly would have been lower than 62%.






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      There is some evidence that increasing the concentration oxygen in the air breathed can help with mild symptoms of altitude sickness.



      Source here looks at long-term increases in oxygen concentration at high elevation and finds benefits--whether or not the same happens with short bursts from a canister is unclear. I have heard circumstantial evidence from friends in the skiing world that a hit from the oxygen canister works pretty well for mild exhaustion after a hike at 13,000 ft or so.



      Since one of the main causes of altitude sickness is the reduced partial pressure of oxygen at elevation, increasing the ratio of oxygen to other gases in the air should help a bit, to an extent. Of course, when the pressure is really low, no matter how high the concentration or O2, the partial pressure will never be enough.



      I'd also add that the source in Gabriel's answer is about hyperoxia at sea level, not how to mitigate hypoxyia at elevation. Then again, Gabriel is probably right that stores carry them because they sell, not because they necessarily work.



      Edit re: how many breaths is the canister "useful" for: At sea level where atmospheric pressure is 760mmHg and O2 concentration is 21% the partial pressure is about 160mmHg. By 10,000 feet, that drops to about 110mmHg. To maintain sea-level partial pressure of O2, you'd need to be breathing about 30% O2 instead of 20%, which means 1.5 times as much.



      So for each 0.5L breath of 21% oxygen air at 10,000ft, you'd need to inhale an additional 0.052L of 95% oxygen to get the same inhaled partial pressures as sea level. The 10L can would give you 192 hits of this volume. This fits nearly with the 200 breaths advertised!



      Obviously, at higher elevations, you'd need more oxygen, but since these are mostly sold at ski resorts where 9,000-12,000ft is the norm, the 200 advertised servings per container seems reasonable.






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        There is some evidence that increasing the concentration oxygen in the air breathed can help with mild symptoms of altitude sickness.



        Source here looks at long-term increases in oxygen concentration at high elevation and finds benefits--whether or not the same happens with short bursts from a canister is unclear. I have heard circumstantial evidence from friends in the skiing world that a hit from the oxygen canister works pretty well for mild exhaustion after a hike at 13,000 ft or so.



        Since one of the main causes of altitude sickness is the reduced partial pressure of oxygen at elevation, increasing the ratio of oxygen to other gases in the air should help a bit, to an extent. Of course, when the pressure is really low, no matter how high the concentration or O2, the partial pressure will never be enough.



        I'd also add that the source in Gabriel's answer is about hyperoxia at sea level, not how to mitigate hypoxyia at elevation. Then again, Gabriel is probably right that stores carry them because they sell, not because they necessarily work.



        Edit re: how many breaths is the canister "useful" for: At sea level where atmospheric pressure is 760mmHg and O2 concentration is 21% the partial pressure is about 160mmHg. By 10,000 feet, that drops to about 110mmHg. To maintain sea-level partial pressure of O2, you'd need to be breathing about 30% O2 instead of 20%, which means 1.5 times as much.



        So for each 0.5L breath of 21% oxygen air at 10,000ft, you'd need to inhale an additional 0.052L of 95% oxygen to get the same inhaled partial pressures as sea level. The 10L can would give you 192 hits of this volume. This fits nearly with the 200 breaths advertised!



        Obviously, at higher elevations, you'd need more oxygen, but since these are mostly sold at ski resorts where 9,000-12,000ft is the norm, the 200 advertised servings per container seems reasonable.






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          There is some evidence that increasing the concentration oxygen in the air breathed can help with mild symptoms of altitude sickness.



          Source here looks at long-term increases in oxygen concentration at high elevation and finds benefits--whether or not the same happens with short bursts from a canister is unclear. I have heard circumstantial evidence from friends in the skiing world that a hit from the oxygen canister works pretty well for mild exhaustion after a hike at 13,000 ft or so.



          Since one of the main causes of altitude sickness is the reduced partial pressure of oxygen at elevation, increasing the ratio of oxygen to other gases in the air should help a bit, to an extent. Of course, when the pressure is really low, no matter how high the concentration or O2, the partial pressure will never be enough.



          I'd also add that the source in Gabriel's answer is about hyperoxia at sea level, not how to mitigate hypoxyia at elevation. Then again, Gabriel is probably right that stores carry them because they sell, not because they necessarily work.



          Edit re: how many breaths is the canister "useful" for: At sea level where atmospheric pressure is 760mmHg and O2 concentration is 21% the partial pressure is about 160mmHg. By 10,000 feet, that drops to about 110mmHg. To maintain sea-level partial pressure of O2, you'd need to be breathing about 30% O2 instead of 20%, which means 1.5 times as much.



          So for each 0.5L breath of 21% oxygen air at 10,000ft, you'd need to inhale an additional 0.052L of 95% oxygen to get the same inhaled partial pressures as sea level. The 10L can would give you 192 hits of this volume. This fits nearly with the 200 breaths advertised!



          Obviously, at higher elevations, you'd need more oxygen, but since these are mostly sold at ski resorts where 9,000-12,000ft is the norm, the 200 advertised servings per container seems reasonable.






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          There is some evidence that increasing the concentration oxygen in the air breathed can help with mild symptoms of altitude sickness.



          Source here looks at long-term increases in oxygen concentration at high elevation and finds benefits--whether or not the same happens with short bursts from a canister is unclear. I have heard circumstantial evidence from friends in the skiing world that a hit from the oxygen canister works pretty well for mild exhaustion after a hike at 13,000 ft or so.



          Since one of the main causes of altitude sickness is the reduced partial pressure of oxygen at elevation, increasing the ratio of oxygen to other gases in the air should help a bit, to an extent. Of course, when the pressure is really low, no matter how high the concentration or O2, the partial pressure will never be enough.



          I'd also add that the source in Gabriel's answer is about hyperoxia at sea level, not how to mitigate hypoxyia at elevation. Then again, Gabriel is probably right that stores carry them because they sell, not because they necessarily work.



          Edit re: how many breaths is the canister "useful" for: At sea level where atmospheric pressure is 760mmHg and O2 concentration is 21% the partial pressure is about 160mmHg. By 10,000 feet, that drops to about 110mmHg. To maintain sea-level partial pressure of O2, you'd need to be breathing about 30% O2 instead of 20%, which means 1.5 times as much.



          So for each 0.5L breath of 21% oxygen air at 10,000ft, you'd need to inhale an additional 0.052L of 95% oxygen to get the same inhaled partial pressures as sea level. The 10L can would give you 192 hits of this volume. This fits nearly with the 200 breaths advertised!



          Obviously, at higher elevations, you'd need more oxygen, but since these are mostly sold at ski resorts where 9,000-12,000ft is the norm, the 200 advertised servings per container seems reasonable.







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              In this study from 2014 in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, the conclusion seems to be that it's no better than placebo:



              Introduction (excerpt)




              Oxygen supplementation has often been used as an aid for athletic individuals who ascend to high altitudes before acclimatization or experience symptoms of altitude sickness. The effectiveness of oxygen supplementation in augmenting arterial blood oxygen levels [...] could have contributed to hyperoxia supplements, gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market. [...] However, the efficacy of such products is in need of evaluation. There is increasing need for additional research to determine the efficacy of such products due to the fact that hyperoxic supplements are being made available to the general public, with promises of enhancing exercise performance and recovery.




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              As was previously stated, hyperoxia supplements are gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market with a number of manufacturers supporting the use of personal oxygen cylinders to augment sports performance, and the aim of this study was to explore the efficacy of such products. The present investigation does not support the use of personal OSs for exercise performance, exercise recovery, or postexercise cognitive performance. It is important that strength and conditioning professionals are armed with accurate and relevant data when making decisions regarding the use of supplements. Given the results of this study, personal hyperoxic products do not seem to provide the desired results that would be expected from an effective ergogenic aid. Athletes, coaches, trainers, and recreational exercisers are encouraged to consider the results of this study when considering the use of similar supplements.




              I am a big skeptic of this kind of "supplement". It seems like a good way to upsell cans full of worthless product, similar to homeopathic pills.



              Usually, the reason stores carry these even if there's no proven health benefit is because there is demand, and they are harmless in themselves.






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                IANAMD but, the question is not about using supplemental oxygen to induce Hyperoxia to boost performance or in post workout conditions at normal atmospheric oxygen concentrations (normal altitudes). The question is about treating Hypoxia / altitude sickness at high altitudes. The excerpt you provided is addressing a COMPLETELY different use for supplemental oxygen.

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              • @renesis If you take the time to read the article and check the articles it references (many do show that supplemental oxygen does help treat hypoxic symptoms), it's never in the context of low-pressure personal canisters, but as medical treatments with significant equipment. This study focuses on the exact product showcased in the question.

                – Gabriel C.
                4 hours ago






              • 1





                Look I'm not going to argue with you, I have read the article, I do not have time to read the references. If you are saying the references indicate low pressure personal oxygen canisters are not useful for treating altitude sickness then that should be your answer. Everything else you've written is debunking their use for performance. Altitude sickness is not a lack of performance. Ergogenic = enhancing physical performance. I'm not defending their use, but this study does not evaluate them for the use in question. IE: "Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness?"

                – renesis
                3 hours ago






              • 1





                @renesis Thanks for distinguishing between altitude sickness and reduction in energy and performance. I have never experienced altitude sickness (e.g., nausea, trouble sleeping, headache, loss of appetite) but always experience a reduction in energy for at least several days. I don't know if sniffing O2 would have helped (See this Q. I wish more people here would not automatically assume that feeling non-energetic means one is sick.

                – ab2
                10 mins ago















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              In this study from 2014 in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, the conclusion seems to be that it's no better than placebo:



              Introduction (excerpt)




              Oxygen supplementation has often been used as an aid for athletic individuals who ascend to high altitudes before acclimatization or experience symptoms of altitude sickness. The effectiveness of oxygen supplementation in augmenting arterial blood oxygen levels [...] could have contributed to hyperoxia supplements, gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market. [...] However, the efficacy of such products is in need of evaluation. There is increasing need for additional research to determine the efficacy of such products due to the fact that hyperoxic supplements are being made available to the general public, with promises of enhancing exercise performance and recovery.




              Conclusion (excerpt)




              As was previously stated, hyperoxia supplements are gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market with a number of manufacturers supporting the use of personal oxygen cylinders to augment sports performance, and the aim of this study was to explore the efficacy of such products. The present investigation does not support the use of personal OSs for exercise performance, exercise recovery, or postexercise cognitive performance. It is important that strength and conditioning professionals are armed with accurate and relevant data when making decisions regarding the use of supplements. Given the results of this study, personal hyperoxic products do not seem to provide the desired results that would be expected from an effective ergogenic aid. Athletes, coaches, trainers, and recreational exercisers are encouraged to consider the results of this study when considering the use of similar supplements.




              I am a big skeptic of this kind of "supplement". It seems like a good way to upsell cans full of worthless product, similar to homeopathic pills.



              Usually, the reason stores carry these even if there's no proven health benefit is because there is demand, and they are harmless in themselves.






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                IANAMD but, the question is not about using supplemental oxygen to induce Hyperoxia to boost performance or in post workout conditions at normal atmospheric oxygen concentrations (normal altitudes). The question is about treating Hypoxia / altitude sickness at high altitudes. The excerpt you provided is addressing a COMPLETELY different use for supplemental oxygen.

                – renesis
                5 hours ago











              • @renesis If you take the time to read the article and check the articles it references (many do show that supplemental oxygen does help treat hypoxic symptoms), it's never in the context of low-pressure personal canisters, but as medical treatments with significant equipment. This study focuses on the exact product showcased in the question.

                – Gabriel C.
                4 hours ago






              • 1





                Look I'm not going to argue with you, I have read the article, I do not have time to read the references. If you are saying the references indicate low pressure personal oxygen canisters are not useful for treating altitude sickness then that should be your answer. Everything else you've written is debunking their use for performance. Altitude sickness is not a lack of performance. Ergogenic = enhancing physical performance. I'm not defending their use, but this study does not evaluate them for the use in question. IE: "Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness?"

                – renesis
                3 hours ago






              • 1





                @renesis Thanks for distinguishing between altitude sickness and reduction in energy and performance. I have never experienced altitude sickness (e.g., nausea, trouble sleeping, headache, loss of appetite) but always experience a reduction in energy for at least several days. I don't know if sniffing O2 would have helped (See this Q. I wish more people here would not automatically assume that feeling non-energetic means one is sick.

                – ab2
                10 mins ago













              2












              2








              2







              In this study from 2014 in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, the conclusion seems to be that it's no better than placebo:



              Introduction (excerpt)




              Oxygen supplementation has often been used as an aid for athletic individuals who ascend to high altitudes before acclimatization or experience symptoms of altitude sickness. The effectiveness of oxygen supplementation in augmenting arterial blood oxygen levels [...] could have contributed to hyperoxia supplements, gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market. [...] However, the efficacy of such products is in need of evaluation. There is increasing need for additional research to determine the efficacy of such products due to the fact that hyperoxic supplements are being made available to the general public, with promises of enhancing exercise performance and recovery.




              Conclusion (excerpt)




              As was previously stated, hyperoxia supplements are gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market with a number of manufacturers supporting the use of personal oxygen cylinders to augment sports performance, and the aim of this study was to explore the efficacy of such products. The present investigation does not support the use of personal OSs for exercise performance, exercise recovery, or postexercise cognitive performance. It is important that strength and conditioning professionals are armed with accurate and relevant data when making decisions regarding the use of supplements. Given the results of this study, personal hyperoxic products do not seem to provide the desired results that would be expected from an effective ergogenic aid. Athletes, coaches, trainers, and recreational exercisers are encouraged to consider the results of this study when considering the use of similar supplements.




              I am a big skeptic of this kind of "supplement". It seems like a good way to upsell cans full of worthless product, similar to homeopathic pills.



              Usually, the reason stores carry these even if there's no proven health benefit is because there is demand, and they are harmless in themselves.






              share|improve this answer















              In this study from 2014 in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, the conclusion seems to be that it's no better than placebo:



              Introduction (excerpt)




              Oxygen supplementation has often been used as an aid for athletic individuals who ascend to high altitudes before acclimatization or experience symptoms of altitude sickness. The effectiveness of oxygen supplementation in augmenting arterial blood oxygen levels [...] could have contributed to hyperoxia supplements, gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market. [...] However, the efficacy of such products is in need of evaluation. There is increasing need for additional research to determine the efficacy of such products due to the fact that hyperoxic supplements are being made available to the general public, with promises of enhancing exercise performance and recovery.




              Conclusion (excerpt)




              As was previously stated, hyperoxia supplements are gaining popularity in the ergogenic aid market with a number of manufacturers supporting the use of personal oxygen cylinders to augment sports performance, and the aim of this study was to explore the efficacy of such products. The present investigation does not support the use of personal OSs for exercise performance, exercise recovery, or postexercise cognitive performance. It is important that strength and conditioning professionals are armed with accurate and relevant data when making decisions regarding the use of supplements. Given the results of this study, personal hyperoxic products do not seem to provide the desired results that would be expected from an effective ergogenic aid. Athletes, coaches, trainers, and recreational exercisers are encouraged to consider the results of this study when considering the use of similar supplements.




              I am a big skeptic of this kind of "supplement". It seems like a good way to upsell cans full of worthless product, similar to homeopathic pills.



              Usually, the reason stores carry these even if there's no proven health benefit is because there is demand, and they are harmless in themselves.







              share|improve this answer














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                IANAMD but, the question is not about using supplemental oxygen to induce Hyperoxia to boost performance or in post workout conditions at normal atmospheric oxygen concentrations (normal altitudes). The question is about treating Hypoxia / altitude sickness at high altitudes. The excerpt you provided is addressing a COMPLETELY different use for supplemental oxygen.

                – renesis
                5 hours ago











              • @renesis If you take the time to read the article and check the articles it references (many do show that supplemental oxygen does help treat hypoxic symptoms), it's never in the context of low-pressure personal canisters, but as medical treatments with significant equipment. This study focuses on the exact product showcased in the question.

                – Gabriel C.
                4 hours ago






              • 1





                Look I'm not going to argue with you, I have read the article, I do not have time to read the references. If you are saying the references indicate low pressure personal oxygen canisters are not useful for treating altitude sickness then that should be your answer. Everything else you've written is debunking their use for performance. Altitude sickness is not a lack of performance. Ergogenic = enhancing physical performance. I'm not defending their use, but this study does not evaluate them for the use in question. IE: "Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness?"

                – renesis
                3 hours ago






              • 1





                @renesis Thanks for distinguishing between altitude sickness and reduction in energy and performance. I have never experienced altitude sickness (e.g., nausea, trouble sleeping, headache, loss of appetite) but always experience a reduction in energy for at least several days. I don't know if sniffing O2 would have helped (See this Q. I wish more people here would not automatically assume that feeling non-energetic means one is sick.

                – ab2
                10 mins ago












              • 1





                IANAMD but, the question is not about using supplemental oxygen to induce Hyperoxia to boost performance or in post workout conditions at normal atmospheric oxygen concentrations (normal altitudes). The question is about treating Hypoxia / altitude sickness at high altitudes. The excerpt you provided is addressing a COMPLETELY different use for supplemental oxygen.

                – renesis
                5 hours ago











              • @renesis If you take the time to read the article and check the articles it references (many do show that supplemental oxygen does help treat hypoxic symptoms), it's never in the context of low-pressure personal canisters, but as medical treatments with significant equipment. This study focuses on the exact product showcased in the question.

                – Gabriel C.
                4 hours ago






              • 1





                Look I'm not going to argue with you, I have read the article, I do not have time to read the references. If you are saying the references indicate low pressure personal oxygen canisters are not useful for treating altitude sickness then that should be your answer. Everything else you've written is debunking their use for performance. Altitude sickness is not a lack of performance. Ergogenic = enhancing physical performance. I'm not defending their use, but this study does not evaluate them for the use in question. IE: "Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness?"

                – renesis
                3 hours ago






              • 1





                @renesis Thanks for distinguishing between altitude sickness and reduction in energy and performance. I have never experienced altitude sickness (e.g., nausea, trouble sleeping, headache, loss of appetite) but always experience a reduction in energy for at least several days. I don't know if sniffing O2 would have helped (See this Q. I wish more people here would not automatically assume that feeling non-energetic means one is sick.

                – ab2
                10 mins ago







              1




              1





              IANAMD but, the question is not about using supplemental oxygen to induce Hyperoxia to boost performance or in post workout conditions at normal atmospheric oxygen concentrations (normal altitudes). The question is about treating Hypoxia / altitude sickness at high altitudes. The excerpt you provided is addressing a COMPLETELY different use for supplemental oxygen.

              – renesis
              5 hours ago





              IANAMD but, the question is not about using supplemental oxygen to induce Hyperoxia to boost performance or in post workout conditions at normal atmospheric oxygen concentrations (normal altitudes). The question is about treating Hypoxia / altitude sickness at high altitudes. The excerpt you provided is addressing a COMPLETELY different use for supplemental oxygen.

              – renesis
              5 hours ago













              @renesis If you take the time to read the article and check the articles it references (many do show that supplemental oxygen does help treat hypoxic symptoms), it's never in the context of low-pressure personal canisters, but as medical treatments with significant equipment. This study focuses on the exact product showcased in the question.

              – Gabriel C.
              4 hours ago





              @renesis If you take the time to read the article and check the articles it references (many do show that supplemental oxygen does help treat hypoxic symptoms), it's never in the context of low-pressure personal canisters, but as medical treatments with significant equipment. This study focuses on the exact product showcased in the question.

              – Gabriel C.
              4 hours ago




              1




              1





              Look I'm not going to argue with you, I have read the article, I do not have time to read the references. If you are saying the references indicate low pressure personal oxygen canisters are not useful for treating altitude sickness then that should be your answer. Everything else you've written is debunking their use for performance. Altitude sickness is not a lack of performance. Ergogenic = enhancing physical performance. I'm not defending their use, but this study does not evaluate them for the use in question. IE: "Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness?"

              – renesis
              3 hours ago





              Look I'm not going to argue with you, I have read the article, I do not have time to read the references. If you are saying the references indicate low pressure personal oxygen canisters are not useful for treating altitude sickness then that should be your answer. Everything else you've written is debunking their use for performance. Altitude sickness is not a lack of performance. Ergogenic = enhancing physical performance. I'm not defending their use, but this study does not evaluate them for the use in question. IE: "Is there any evidence that these actually help with altitude sickness?"

              – renesis
              3 hours ago




              1




              1





              @renesis Thanks for distinguishing between altitude sickness and reduction in energy and performance. I have never experienced altitude sickness (e.g., nausea, trouble sleeping, headache, loss of appetite) but always experience a reduction in energy for at least several days. I don't know if sniffing O2 would have helped (See this Q. I wish more people here would not automatically assume that feeling non-energetic means one is sick.

              – ab2
              10 mins ago





              @renesis Thanks for distinguishing between altitude sickness and reduction in energy and performance. I have never experienced altitude sickness (e.g., nausea, trouble sleeping, headache, loss of appetite) but always experience a reduction in energy for at least several days. I don't know if sniffing O2 would have helped (See this Q. I wish more people here would not automatically assume that feeling non-energetic means one is sick.

              – ab2
              10 mins ago











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              While not sure about the medical backing, from personal experience I once had HAPE and my oxygen reached 62% SpO2 by the time I was at the ER. I had one of those style canisters and I think it definitely helped during the 45 min between buying it and getting to the ER. I was using it fairly constantly during that time period though not just a single air shot as you see advertised. While I can't say conclusively what my SpO2 level would have been, it possibly would have been lower than 62%.






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                While not sure about the medical backing, from personal experience I once had HAPE and my oxygen reached 62% SpO2 by the time I was at the ER. I had one of those style canisters and I think it definitely helped during the 45 min between buying it and getting to the ER. I was using it fairly constantly during that time period though not just a single air shot as you see advertised. While I can't say conclusively what my SpO2 level would have been, it possibly would have been lower than 62%.






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                  While not sure about the medical backing, from personal experience I once had HAPE and my oxygen reached 62% SpO2 by the time I was at the ER. I had one of those style canisters and I think it definitely helped during the 45 min between buying it and getting to the ER. I was using it fairly constantly during that time period though not just a single air shot as you see advertised. While I can't say conclusively what my SpO2 level would have been, it possibly would have been lower than 62%.






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                  While not sure about the medical backing, from personal experience I once had HAPE and my oxygen reached 62% SpO2 by the time I was at the ER. I had one of those style canisters and I think it definitely helped during the 45 min between buying it and getting to the ER. I was using it fairly constantly during that time period though not just a single air shot as you see advertised. While I can't say conclusively what my SpO2 level would have been, it possibly would have been lower than 62%.







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