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Does an ice chest packed full of frozen food need ice? 18 day Grand Canyon trip
If the cooler is packed full of frozen food does it need ice to retain it's frozen status for 3 weeks or does ice somehow stay colder longer than frozen steak,sausage,hamburger etc.....?
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If the cooler is packed full of frozen food does it need ice to retain it's frozen status for 3 weeks or does ice somehow stay colder longer than frozen steak,sausage,hamburger etc.....?
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Without active cooling (which requires some sort of energy, gas or electricity), you'll not even remotely be able to keep your stuff cool for three weeks.
– helm
12 hours ago
Depends on water content of the meat and the specific heat of meat and the specific gravity of meat. My guess based on the very high specific heat capacity of water is that the meat would heat up to spoilage temperature faster than a block of ice would melt and attain that temperature
– ab2
4 hours ago
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If the cooler is packed full of frozen food does it need ice to retain it's frozen status for 3 weeks or does ice somehow stay colder longer than frozen steak,sausage,hamburger etc.....?
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If the cooler is packed full of frozen food does it need ice to retain it's frozen status for 3 weeks or does ice somehow stay colder longer than frozen steak,sausage,hamburger etc.....?
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Without active cooling (which requires some sort of energy, gas or electricity), you'll not even remotely be able to keep your stuff cool for three weeks.
– helm
12 hours ago
Depends on water content of the meat and the specific heat of meat and the specific gravity of meat. My guess based on the very high specific heat capacity of water is that the meat would heat up to spoilage temperature faster than a block of ice would melt and attain that temperature
– ab2
4 hours ago
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Without active cooling (which requires some sort of energy, gas or electricity), you'll not even remotely be able to keep your stuff cool for three weeks.
– helm
12 hours ago
Depends on water content of the meat and the specific heat of meat and the specific gravity of meat. My guess based on the very high specific heat capacity of water is that the meat would heat up to spoilage temperature faster than a block of ice would melt and attain that temperature
– ab2
4 hours ago
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Without active cooling (which requires some sort of energy, gas or electricity), you'll not even remotely be able to keep your stuff cool for three weeks.
– helm
12 hours ago
Without active cooling (which requires some sort of energy, gas or electricity), you'll not even remotely be able to keep your stuff cool for three weeks.
– helm
12 hours ago
Depends on water content of the meat and the specific heat of meat and the specific gravity of meat. My guess based on the very high specific heat capacity of water is that the meat would heat up to spoilage temperature faster than a block of ice would melt and attain that temperature
– ab2
4 hours ago
Depends on water content of the meat and the specific heat of meat and the specific gravity of meat. My guess based on the very high specific heat capacity of water is that the meat would heat up to spoilage temperature faster than a block of ice would melt and attain that temperature
– ab2
4 hours ago
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If you look for the manufacturer's promises for these "passive" boxes (there is absolutely no cooling, just the attempt to keep the cool in - called isolation), they usually state something around 24h to keep things cool.
You don't even have to start thinking how the manufacturer got to this number. There is no way to use it in the way you proposed because your plans are on another level.
Actually that's not true at all. Regularly Grand Canyon rafters have ice at the end of the 18 day trip. Typically these are yeti Coolers packed with block ice and some frozen food. However I'm considering the idea of having a smaller cooler packed strictly frozen solid meals particularly meat. so the question here is is there a difference in thawout Rate inside of a cooler between block ice and frozen meat.??
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If you look for the manufacturer's promises for these "passive" boxes (there is absolutely no cooling, just the attempt to keep the cool in - called isolation), they usually state something around 24h to keep things cool.
You don't even have to start thinking how the manufacturer got to this number. There is no way to use it in the way you proposed because your plans are on another level.
Actually that's not true at all. Regularly Grand Canyon rafters have ice at the end of the 18 day trip. Typically these are yeti Coolers packed with block ice and some frozen food. However I'm considering the idea of having a smaller cooler packed strictly frozen solid meals particularly meat. so the question here is is there a difference in thawout Rate inside of a cooler between block ice and frozen meat.??
– Woodstockaz
6 hours ago
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If you look for the manufacturer's promises for these "passive" boxes (there is absolutely no cooling, just the attempt to keep the cool in - called isolation), they usually state something around 24h to keep things cool.
You don't even have to start thinking how the manufacturer got to this number. There is no way to use it in the way you proposed because your plans are on another level.
Actually that's not true at all. Regularly Grand Canyon rafters have ice at the end of the 18 day trip. Typically these are yeti Coolers packed with block ice and some frozen food. However I'm considering the idea of having a smaller cooler packed strictly frozen solid meals particularly meat. so the question here is is there a difference in thawout Rate inside of a cooler between block ice and frozen meat.??
– Woodstockaz
6 hours ago
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If you look for the manufacturer's promises for these "passive" boxes (there is absolutely no cooling, just the attempt to keep the cool in - called isolation), they usually state something around 24h to keep things cool.
You don't even have to start thinking how the manufacturer got to this number. There is no way to use it in the way you proposed because your plans are on another level.
If you look for the manufacturer's promises for these "passive" boxes (there is absolutely no cooling, just the attempt to keep the cool in - called isolation), they usually state something around 24h to keep things cool.
You don't even have to start thinking how the manufacturer got to this number. There is no way to use it in the way you proposed because your plans are on another level.
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Actually that's not true at all. Regularly Grand Canyon rafters have ice at the end of the 18 day trip. Typically these are yeti Coolers packed with block ice and some frozen food. However I'm considering the idea of having a smaller cooler packed strictly frozen solid meals particularly meat. so the question here is is there a difference in thawout Rate inside of a cooler between block ice and frozen meat.??
– Woodstockaz
6 hours ago
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Actually that's not true at all. Regularly Grand Canyon rafters have ice at the end of the 18 day trip. Typically these are yeti Coolers packed with block ice and some frozen food. However I'm considering the idea of having a smaller cooler packed strictly frozen solid meals particularly meat. so the question here is is there a difference in thawout Rate inside of a cooler between block ice and frozen meat.??
– Woodstockaz
6 hours ago
Actually that's not true at all. Regularly Grand Canyon rafters have ice at the end of the 18 day trip. Typically these are yeti Coolers packed with block ice and some frozen food. However I'm considering the idea of having a smaller cooler packed strictly frozen solid meals particularly meat. so the question here is is there a difference in thawout Rate inside of a cooler between block ice and frozen meat.??
– Woodstockaz
6 hours ago
Actually that's not true at all. Regularly Grand Canyon rafters have ice at the end of the 18 day trip. Typically these are yeti Coolers packed with block ice and some frozen food. However I'm considering the idea of having a smaller cooler packed strictly frozen solid meals particularly meat. so the question here is is there a difference in thawout Rate inside of a cooler between block ice and frozen meat.??
– Woodstockaz
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Without active cooling (which requires some sort of energy, gas or electricity), you'll not even remotely be able to keep your stuff cool for three weeks.
– helm
12 hours ago
Depends on water content of the meat and the specific heat of meat and the specific gravity of meat. My guess based on the very high specific heat capacity of water is that the meat would heat up to spoilage temperature faster than a block of ice would melt and attain that temperature
– ab2
4 hours ago