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I am trying to widen the doorway to a room in a house that was build in 1905. the framing is 16 on center, however the lumber is wider than a standard 2x4. by about a 1/2 inch. (the actual dimensions of the wood are 2x4).
I can position the jackstuds so that they are flush with the wall of the room, but that would leave a gap on the other side.
How should I handle this? Should I rip a 2x6 to fit?
EDIT: the wall is load bearing
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I am trying to widen the doorway to a room in a house that was build in 1905. the framing is 16 on center, however the lumber is wider than a standard 2x4. by about a 1/2 inch. (the actual dimensions of the wood are 2x4).
I can position the jackstuds so that they are flush with the wall of the room, but that would leave a gap on the other side.
How should I handle this? Should I rip a 2x6 to fit?
EDIT: the wall is load bearing
framing old-house renovation
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Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
2
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
7 hours ago
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
7 hours ago
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
6 hours ago
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
31 mins ago
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I am trying to widen the doorway to a room in a house that was build in 1905. the framing is 16 on center, however the lumber is wider than a standard 2x4. by about a 1/2 inch. (the actual dimensions of the wood are 2x4).
I can position the jackstuds so that they are flush with the wall of the room, but that would leave a gap on the other side.
How should I handle this? Should I rip a 2x6 to fit?
EDIT: the wall is load bearing
framing old-house renovation
New contributor
I am trying to widen the doorway to a room in a house that was build in 1905. the framing is 16 on center, however the lumber is wider than a standard 2x4. by about a 1/2 inch. (the actual dimensions of the wood are 2x4).
I can position the jackstuds so that they are flush with the wall of the room, but that would leave a gap on the other side.
How should I handle this? Should I rip a 2x6 to fit?
EDIT: the wall is load bearing
framing old-house renovation
framing old-house renovation
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Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
2
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
7 hours ago
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
7 hours ago
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
6 hours ago
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
31 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
1
Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
2
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
7 hours ago
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
7 hours ago
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
6 hours ago
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
31 mins ago
1
1
Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
2
2
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
7 hours ago
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
7 hours ago
2
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
7 hours ago
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
7 hours ago
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
6 hours ago
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
6 hours ago
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
31 mins ago
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
31 mins ago
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Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 ratting for frame work.
They should make it, but they do not.
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You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
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Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 ratting for frame work.
They should make it, but they do not.
add a comment |
Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 ratting for frame work.
They should make it, but they do not.
add a comment |
Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 ratting for frame work.
They should make it, but they do not.
Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 ratting for frame work.
They should make it, but they do not.
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You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
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J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
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Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
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That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
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That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
add a comment |
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Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
7 hours ago
2
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
7 hours ago
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
7 hours ago
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
6 hours ago
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
31 mins ago