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I'm working on building a distortion guitar effect pedal for an analog electronics class I'm taking. I am struggling with building an amplifying circuit using an op amp (we just began learning about them), and I'm hoping I could get some tips. Guitar pedals generally run on a single 9V supply. This is the circuit I attempted to build in lab today, however, it did not give any output.





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In particular, I am wondering if it is necessary for me to bias the non-inverting input at 4.5V, and if this circuit would give me the desired gain of +10 if I build it correctly. This is not the specific Op amp I'll be using, I'm not sure which I'll be using yet, I haven't gotten that far.










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I'm working on building a distortion guitar effect pedal for an analog electronics class I'm taking. I am struggling with building an amplifying circuit using an op amp (we just began learning about them), and I'm hoping I could get some tips. Guitar pedals generally run on a single 9V supply. This is the circuit I attempted to build in lab today, however, it did not give any output.





schematic





simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab



In particular, I am wondering if it is necessary for me to bias the non-inverting input at 4.5V, and if this circuit would give me the desired gain of +10 if I build it correctly. This is not the specific Op amp I'll be using, I'm not sure which I'll be using yet, I haven't gotten that far.










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I'm working on building a distortion guitar effect pedal for an analog electronics class I'm taking. I am struggling with building an amplifying circuit using an op amp (we just began learning about them), and I'm hoping I could get some tips. Guitar pedals generally run on a single 9V supply. This is the circuit I attempted to build in lab today, however, it did not give any output.





schematic





simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab



In particular, I am wondering if it is necessary for me to bias the non-inverting input at 4.5V, and if this circuit would give me the desired gain of +10 if I build it correctly. This is not the specific Op amp I'll be using, I'm not sure which I'll be using yet, I haven't gotten that far.










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I'm working on building a distortion guitar effect pedal for an analog electronics class I'm taking. I am struggling with building an amplifying circuit using an op amp (we just began learning about them), and I'm hoping I could get some tips. Guitar pedals generally run on a single 9V supply. This is the circuit I attempted to build in lab today, however, it did not give any output.





schematic





simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab



In particular, I am wondering if it is necessary for me to bias the non-inverting input at 4.5V, and if this circuit would give me the desired gain of +10 if I build it correctly. This is not the specific Op amp I'll be using, I'm not sure which I'll be using yet, I haven't gotten that far.







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    Where does the bottom end of R3 go? You're showing it as unconnected and that's rather important.
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    – Finbarr
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    put a large cap in series with R3, to ground.
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    Where does the bottom end of R3 go? You're showing it as unconnected and that's rather important.
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    – Finbarr
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    put a large cap in series with R3, to ground.
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Where does the bottom end of R3 go? You're showing it as unconnected and that's rather important.
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put a large cap in series with R3, to ground.
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Your schematic should be as following:





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Since you're using a single-supply non-inverting amplifier, the non-inv input of the opamp should be biased to a non-zero voltage –ideally to Vcc/2 as in your schematic so that the amplified signal can swing equally.



Now let's take a look at the capacitors in dashed rectangles:



  • If you don't put C2, the DC bias will be multiplied by 11 as well. Thus the output will saturate and you'll never get the amplified signal from output. Since C2 will be open in DC, the net gain in DC will be unity. Thus the DC bias will be multiplied by 1. So the amplified signal will have an offset of Vcc/2 instead of 11 x Vcc/2.


  • C3 is just a DC-blocking capacitor. It removes the DC bias so you can get only the amplified AC signal.






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    Because you have a single supply op-amp configuration, you would also need to bias the inverting input of your op-amp to +4.5V (Where did you connect R3?)



    The gain will be (R3+R4)/R3 which is +11 for the resistor values shown here.



    And you might also want to use a "bulk capacitor". (This is a short-time energy provider for your op-amp.)






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      Your schematic should be as following:





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      simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab



      Since you're using a single-supply non-inverting amplifier, the non-inv input of the opamp should be biased to a non-zero voltage –ideally to Vcc/2 as in your schematic so that the amplified signal can swing equally.



      Now let's take a look at the capacitors in dashed rectangles:



      • If you don't put C2, the DC bias will be multiplied by 11 as well. Thus the output will saturate and you'll never get the amplified signal from output. Since C2 will be open in DC, the net gain in DC will be unity. Thus the DC bias will be multiplied by 1. So the amplified signal will have an offset of Vcc/2 instead of 11 x Vcc/2.


      • C3 is just a DC-blocking capacitor. It removes the DC bias so you can get only the amplified AC signal.






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        Your schematic should be as following:





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        simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab



        Since you're using a single-supply non-inverting amplifier, the non-inv input of the opamp should be biased to a non-zero voltage –ideally to Vcc/2 as in your schematic so that the amplified signal can swing equally.



        Now let's take a look at the capacitors in dashed rectangles:



        • If you don't put C2, the DC bias will be multiplied by 11 as well. Thus the output will saturate and you'll never get the amplified signal from output. Since C2 will be open in DC, the net gain in DC will be unity. Thus the DC bias will be multiplied by 1. So the amplified signal will have an offset of Vcc/2 instead of 11 x Vcc/2.


        • C3 is just a DC-blocking capacitor. It removes the DC bias so you can get only the amplified AC signal.






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          Your schematic should be as following:





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          simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab



          Since you're using a single-supply non-inverting amplifier, the non-inv input of the opamp should be biased to a non-zero voltage –ideally to Vcc/2 as in your schematic so that the amplified signal can swing equally.



          Now let's take a look at the capacitors in dashed rectangles:



          • If you don't put C2, the DC bias will be multiplied by 11 as well. Thus the output will saturate and you'll never get the amplified signal from output. Since C2 will be open in DC, the net gain in DC will be unity. Thus the DC bias will be multiplied by 1. So the amplified signal will have an offset of Vcc/2 instead of 11 x Vcc/2.


          • C3 is just a DC-blocking capacitor. It removes the DC bias so you can get only the amplified AC signal.






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          Your schematic should be as following:





          schematic





          simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab



          Since you're using a single-supply non-inverting amplifier, the non-inv input of the opamp should be biased to a non-zero voltage –ideally to Vcc/2 as in your schematic so that the amplified signal can swing equally.



          Now let's take a look at the capacitors in dashed rectangles:



          • If you don't put C2, the DC bias will be multiplied by 11 as well. Thus the output will saturate and you'll never get the amplified signal from output. Since C2 will be open in DC, the net gain in DC will be unity. Thus the DC bias will be multiplied by 1. So the amplified signal will have an offset of Vcc/2 instead of 11 x Vcc/2.


          • C3 is just a DC-blocking capacitor. It removes the DC bias so you can get only the amplified AC signal.







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              Because you have a single supply op-amp configuration, you would also need to bias the inverting input of your op-amp to +4.5V (Where did you connect R3?)



              The gain will be (R3+R4)/R3 which is +11 for the resistor values shown here.



              And you might also want to use a "bulk capacitor". (This is a short-time energy provider for your op-amp.)






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                Because you have a single supply op-amp configuration, you would also need to bias the inverting input of your op-amp to +4.5V (Where did you connect R3?)



                The gain will be (R3+R4)/R3 which is +11 for the resistor values shown here.



                And you might also want to use a "bulk capacitor". (This is a short-time energy provider for your op-amp.)






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                  Because you have a single supply op-amp configuration, you would also need to bias the inverting input of your op-amp to +4.5V (Where did you connect R3?)



                  The gain will be (R3+R4)/R3 which is +11 for the resistor values shown here.



                  And you might also want to use a "bulk capacitor". (This is a short-time energy provider for your op-amp.)






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                  Because you have a single supply op-amp configuration, you would also need to bias the inverting input of your op-amp to +4.5V (Where did you connect R3?)



                  The gain will be (R3+R4)/R3 which is +11 for the resistor values shown here.



                  And you might also want to use a "bulk capacitor". (This is a short-time energy provider for your op-amp.)







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