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The function $f(x) = frac1x-1 + frac2x-2 + frac3x-3$ is many-to-one, despite it having a strictly negative derivative (the domain being $mathbbR - 1,2,3$). Why is this so? Is there any way of knowing this without actually graphing $f(x)$, which seems rather difficult?










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The function $f(x) = frac1x-1 + frac2x-2 + frac3x-3$ is many-to-one, despite it having a strictly negative derivative (the domain being $mathbbR - 1,2,3$). Why is this so? Is there any way of knowing this without actually graphing $f(x)$, which seems rather difficult?










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When we approach $x=1$ very close from the negative direction, $x-1$ will be a very small negative value and so $frac1x-1$ will be a very large negative value. Approaching from the other side we have $frac1x-1$ becoming a very positive value. In fact, it can become as large or as small as you like, provided you get as close to $x=1$ as necessary.



By looking at the other terms, we see that the same thing happens at $x=2$ and $x=3$ and we see that, near each of these points, the function can attain any value we like. Therefore, there exist distinct $x$ values for which $f(x)$ is the same, and so the function is not one-to-one.



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By the way, the reason we can have a function with a strictly negative derivative that isn’t one-to-one is because it isn’t continuous. Specifically, this function isn’t continuous at the points $x=1, x=2, x=3$. Even if we remove these points from the domain as we have, we still find that our function can attain a particular value more than once without the derivative ever becoming zero or switching sign. This is because, at a certain point, the function ‘blows up’ to negative infinity and then magically returns again from positive infinity, so on the domain we have defined, the derivative is always negative.






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    It's because it goes from plus infinity to minus infinity on both $(1,2)$ and $(2,3)$ (so by Intermediate value theorem it assumes every real value at least twice) which you can see by computing the appropriate limits.






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    When we approach $x=1$ very close from the negative direction, $x-1$ will be a very small negative value and so $frac1x-1$ will be a very large negative value. Approaching from the other side we have $frac1x-1$ becoming a very positive value. In fact, it can become as large or as small as you like, provided you get as close to $x=1$ as necessary.



    By looking at the other terms, we see that the same thing happens at $x=2$ and $x=3$ and we see that, near each of these points, the function can attain any value we like. Therefore, there exist distinct $x$ values for which $f(x)$ is the same, and so the function is not one-to-one.



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    By the way, the reason we can have a function with a strictly negative derivative that isn’t one-to-one is because it isn’t continuous. Specifically, this function isn’t continuous at the points $x=1, x=2, x=3$. Even if we remove these points from the domain as we have, we still find that our function can attain a particular value more than once without the derivative ever becoming zero or switching sign. This is because, at a certain point, the function ‘blows up’ to negative infinity and then magically returns again from positive infinity, so on the domain we have defined, the derivative is always negative.






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      When we approach $x=1$ very close from the negative direction, $x-1$ will be a very small negative value and so $frac1x-1$ will be a very large negative value. Approaching from the other side we have $frac1x-1$ becoming a very positive value. In fact, it can become as large or as small as you like, provided you get as close to $x=1$ as necessary.



      By looking at the other terms, we see that the same thing happens at $x=2$ and $x=3$ and we see that, near each of these points, the function can attain any value we like. Therefore, there exist distinct $x$ values for which $f(x)$ is the same, and so the function is not one-to-one.



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      By the way, the reason we can have a function with a strictly negative derivative that isn’t one-to-one is because it isn’t continuous. Specifically, this function isn’t continuous at the points $x=1, x=2, x=3$. Even if we remove these points from the domain as we have, we still find that our function can attain a particular value more than once without the derivative ever becoming zero or switching sign. This is because, at a certain point, the function ‘blows up’ to negative infinity and then magically returns again from positive infinity, so on the domain we have defined, the derivative is always negative.






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        When we approach $x=1$ very close from the negative direction, $x-1$ will be a very small negative value and so $frac1x-1$ will be a very large negative value. Approaching from the other side we have $frac1x-1$ becoming a very positive value. In fact, it can become as large or as small as you like, provided you get as close to $x=1$ as necessary.



        By looking at the other terms, we see that the same thing happens at $x=2$ and $x=3$ and we see that, near each of these points, the function can attain any value we like. Therefore, there exist distinct $x$ values for which $f(x)$ is the same, and so the function is not one-to-one.



        $$rule4cm0.4pt$$



        By the way, the reason we can have a function with a strictly negative derivative that isn’t one-to-one is because it isn’t continuous. Specifically, this function isn’t continuous at the points $x=1, x=2, x=3$. Even if we remove these points from the domain as we have, we still find that our function can attain a particular value more than once without the derivative ever becoming zero or switching sign. This is because, at a certain point, the function ‘blows up’ to negative infinity and then magically returns again from positive infinity, so on the domain we have defined, the derivative is always negative.






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        When we approach $x=1$ very close from the negative direction, $x-1$ will be a very small negative value and so $frac1x-1$ will be a very large negative value. Approaching from the other side we have $frac1x-1$ becoming a very positive value. In fact, it can become as large or as small as you like, provided you get as close to $x=1$ as necessary.



        By looking at the other terms, we see that the same thing happens at $x=2$ and $x=3$ and we see that, near each of these points, the function can attain any value we like. Therefore, there exist distinct $x$ values for which $f(x)$ is the same, and so the function is not one-to-one.



        $$rule4cm0.4pt$$



        By the way, the reason we can have a function with a strictly negative derivative that isn’t one-to-one is because it isn’t continuous. Specifically, this function isn’t continuous at the points $x=1, x=2, x=3$. Even if we remove these points from the domain as we have, we still find that our function can attain a particular value more than once without the derivative ever becoming zero or switching sign. This is because, at a certain point, the function ‘blows up’ to negative infinity and then magically returns again from positive infinity, so on the domain we have defined, the derivative is always negative.







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