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Rests in pickup measure (anacrusis)


Do some measures get no numbers, in an opera score?Is there a rest symbol that means “rest until the end of this measure”?Are whole notes/rests really used to signify variable lengths of time?What does the music notation “/ / / /” mean in a music drum score?Unplayed 2nd voice in notation - spaces or restsWhy is Bonse Aba beamed the way it is?How to play eighths (quavers) interspersed only with quarter notes (crotchets) in swing timeTwo whole notes on the same measure, what does it mean?Extra beats per measure on one staffBaroque notation question













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Which of the following examples is correct?



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I know that in regular measures you can use the whole rest to indicate a complete measure of rest in any time signature, but does that also apply to a pickup bar?



Would you use there the actual note duration or also just the common whole rest?










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    Which of the following examples is correct?



    enter image description here



    I know that in regular measures you can use the whole rest to indicate a complete measure of rest in any time signature, but does that also apply to a pickup bar?



    Would you use there the actual note duration or also just the common whole rest?










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      Which of the following examples is correct?



      enter image description here



      I know that in regular measures you can use the whole rest to indicate a complete measure of rest in any time signature, but does that also apply to a pickup bar?



      Would you use there the actual note duration or also just the common whole rest?










      share|improve this question














      Which of the following examples is correct?



      enter image description here



      I know that in regular measures you can use the whole rest to indicate a complete measure of rest in any time signature, but does that also apply to a pickup bar?



      Would you use there the actual note duration or also just the common whole rest?







      notation pickup-measure anacrusis






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          Actual note duration for the rest. What should happen at the other end of the piece is a part bar containing the two 'missing' beats - often as rests - but increasingly forgotten, sadly. So if there is the remains of the bar at the end, it's best to use a two beat rest there, making a full bar rest at the beginning rather pointless.



          Having said that, I don't think anyone would be confused by the first example, but some would be picky - me included!






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            The lower version is right, definitely. You write the pickup measure with the actual note durations, not like "read all staves and try to figure out if this is a pickup bar or not".



            Think about if those weren't a grand staff i.e. tied treble and bass staves, but a score with two separate instruments. Would it be OK to write a whole-bar rest for the second instrument? If the player read only her own staff, she would have no way to know it's a pickup measure!






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              Actual note duration for the rest. What should happen at the other end of the piece is a part bar containing the two 'missing' beats - often as rests - but increasingly forgotten, sadly. So if there is the remains of the bar at the end, it's best to use a two beat rest there, making a full bar rest at the beginning rather pointless.



              Having said that, I don't think anyone would be confused by the first example, but some would be picky - me included!






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                Actual note duration for the rest. What should happen at the other end of the piece is a part bar containing the two 'missing' beats - often as rests - but increasingly forgotten, sadly. So if there is the remains of the bar at the end, it's best to use a two beat rest there, making a full bar rest at the beginning rather pointless.



                Having said that, I don't think anyone would be confused by the first example, but some would be picky - me included!






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                  Actual note duration for the rest. What should happen at the other end of the piece is a part bar containing the two 'missing' beats - often as rests - but increasingly forgotten, sadly. So if there is the remains of the bar at the end, it's best to use a two beat rest there, making a full bar rest at the beginning rather pointless.



                  Having said that, I don't think anyone would be confused by the first example, but some would be picky - me included!






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                  Actual note duration for the rest. What should happen at the other end of the piece is a part bar containing the two 'missing' beats - often as rests - but increasingly forgotten, sadly. So if there is the remains of the bar at the end, it's best to use a two beat rest there, making a full bar rest at the beginning rather pointless.



                  Having said that, I don't think anyone would be confused by the first example, but some would be picky - me included!







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                      The lower version is right, definitely. You write the pickup measure with the actual note durations, not like "read all staves and try to figure out if this is a pickup bar or not".



                      Think about if those weren't a grand staff i.e. tied treble and bass staves, but a score with two separate instruments. Would it be OK to write a whole-bar rest for the second instrument? If the player read only her own staff, she would have no way to know it's a pickup measure!






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                        The lower version is right, definitely. You write the pickup measure with the actual note durations, not like "read all staves and try to figure out if this is a pickup bar or not".



                        Think about if those weren't a grand staff i.e. tied treble and bass staves, but a score with two separate instruments. Would it be OK to write a whole-bar rest for the second instrument? If the player read only her own staff, she would have no way to know it's a pickup measure!






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                          The lower version is right, definitely. You write the pickup measure with the actual note durations, not like "read all staves and try to figure out if this is a pickup bar or not".



                          Think about if those weren't a grand staff i.e. tied treble and bass staves, but a score with two separate instruments. Would it be OK to write a whole-bar rest for the second instrument? If the player read only her own staff, she would have no way to know it's a pickup measure!






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                          The lower version is right, definitely. You write the pickup measure with the actual note durations, not like "read all staves and try to figure out if this is a pickup bar or not".



                          Think about if those weren't a grand staff i.e. tied treble and bass staves, but a score with two separate instruments. Would it be OK to write a whole-bar rest for the second instrument? If the player read only her own staff, she would have no way to know it's a pickup measure!







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